User Score
8.2

Generally favorable reviews- based on 2952 Ratings

User score distribution:
Buy Now
Buy on

Review this game

  1. Your Score
    0 out of 10
    Rate this:
    • 10
    • 9
    • 8
    • 7
    • 6
    • 5
    • 4
    • 3
    • 2
    • 1
    • 0
    • 0
  1. Submit
  2. Check Spelling
  1. Nov 10, 2022
    2
    Was very hyped when this game was officially announced, but started losing hope in it the more I saw of it. I was still optimistic and hoping for the best, but this game clearly shows that Sonic Team isn't capable of ever making a decent Sonic game.

    The graphics, performance, dialogue, camera controls, enemies, combat, all of these are mediocre at best and absolutely awful at worst. It's
    Was very hyped when this game was officially announced, but started losing hope in it the more I saw of it. I was still optimistic and hoping for the best, but this game clearly shows that Sonic Team isn't capable of ever making a decent Sonic game.

    The graphics, performance, dialogue, camera controls, enemies, combat, all of these are mediocre at best and absolutely awful at worst.

    It's such a shame I was actually excited for a sonic game for once. I think it's time to give Sonic to another younger team to work on it, maybe then we will actually get something good.
    Expand
  2. Nov 11, 2022
    10
    A true master piece, sega did a great job here, after a while sonic cames back
  3. Nov 11, 2022
    9
    Sonic frontiers is for sure one of the best games in the series, top 5 at least. It’s got a pretty decent story and a good ending but the only problem is the amount of pop ins, which also doesn’t affect the gameplay at all, it can just be annoying at times. This is the best game in the series since generations, I recommend it. Also the super sonic gameplay is amazing and as always theSonic frontiers is for sure one of the best games in the series, top 5 at least. It’s got a pretty decent story and a good ending but the only problem is the amount of pop ins, which also doesn’t affect the gameplay at all, it can just be annoying at times. This is the best game in the series since generations, I recommend it. Also the super sonic gameplay is amazing and as always the music is fire. Expand
  4. Nov 11, 2022
    7
    The game was fun and ok, nothing great and nothing bad, people are just overhyping it and coping because they experienced over a decade of mediocrity The game had junky physics, glitches, pop in and pop out problems, empty open world, last two islands are supposed to be part of the first island but that got scrapped, not to forget they look lifeless and cringy
    Combat is good but
    The game was fun and ok, nothing great and nothing bad, people are just overhyping it and coping because they experienced over a decade of mediocrity The game had junky physics, glitches, pop in and pop out problems, empty open world, last two islands are supposed to be part of the first island but that got scrapped, not to forget they look lifeless and cringy
    Combat is good but repetitive, cyberspace levels are worse than generations levels, music was good but not the best, final boss fight was a disappointment and lame, story was better than theeta era games but tried to hard to sound deep
    Overall a not bad game but i expected better
    Expand
  5. Nov 11, 2022
    9
    This Is The Most Ambitious Sonic Game So Far And It Shows Being An "Open Zone" Experience. Now For The Game Itself The Soundtrack Was Perfection, The Story Excellent, The Gameplay For The Open Zone, Cyberspace, And Super Sonic Fights Was Spot On. The Only Issues I Have With The Game Is For The Story At The End Of The Game And The Secert Final Boss, That In My Opinion Is Whats Holding ThisThis Is The Most Ambitious Sonic Game So Far And It Shows Being An "Open Zone" Experience. Now For The Game Itself The Soundtrack Was Perfection, The Story Excellent, The Gameplay For The Open Zone, Cyberspace, And Super Sonic Fights Was Spot On. The Only Issues I Have With The Game Is For The Story At The End Of The Game And The Secert Final Boss, That In My Opinion Is Whats Holding This Game Back From Being The Masterpiece It Truly Deserves To Be. Overall Amazing Gameplay, Excellent Soundtrack, Great Story But Not Really A Masterpiece. Although If You Are Interested In Playing This Game I Highly Recommend It. Expand
  6. Nov 11, 2022
    10
    Sonic Frontiers has built the true, perfect and beautiful future for Sonic.
  7. Nov 11, 2022
    10
    The best 3D Sonic game in years!!!! Truly an astonishing achievement for the frachise, thank you SEGA and SONIC TEAM for this amazing game, we look forward for more!!
  8. Nov 11, 2022
    10
    I love this change of gameplay and it was a lot of fun. 5 different islands with a total challenge amused me for hours so that I finished the first island the first time I entered the game! For all the styles of this game, the portals are exactly the same as Sonic Colors and Sonic Generation, which I also liked.
  9. Nov 11, 2022
    9
    An excellent start of a new era for Sonic. My only disappointment is how short the main campaign is and that is the only reason I'm not giving it a perfect score. Mechanics, additional playable characters, and boss battles can always be improved if they continue this formula, but as of now, Sonic Frontiers is worth a couple of playthroughs.
  10. Nov 11, 2022
    9
    This is such an amazing game, i love the open world and and the little mini adventures it takes you on to collect the memory tokens. The music is obviously perfect since its a sonic game and the titan boss fights is the best super sonic experience we've had in any sonic game. This is such a strong step in the right direction for the future of sonic i hope sonic team keeps up the good work
  11. Nov 11, 2022
    10
    There's some little visual problems, but that doesn't matter when the gameplay is so good.
  12. Nov 11, 2022
    10
    my favorite frontier game. i cried on the part where sonic frontiers all over the place.
  13. Nov 11, 2022
    9
    The best Sonic game I have played in years! The gameplay was fast paced and mostly fluid, the environments were beautiful and contrasted with Sonic to produce a unique image for the game, and the story was heartwarming.

    As with all games, it isn't perfect. The camera can freak out at points in both Cyber Space and the islands, certain levels in Cyber Space are very janky, and the ending
    The best Sonic game I have played in years! The gameplay was fast paced and mostly fluid, the environments were beautiful and contrasted with Sonic to produce a unique image for the game, and the story was heartwarming.

    As with all games, it isn't perfect. The camera can freak out at points in both Cyber Space and the islands, certain levels in Cyber Space are very janky, and the ending was anticlimactic. There are other complaints but those are minor and didn't really hinder my experience as much compared to the ones mentioned.

    Regardless this game has me excited for what's next in the Sonic franchise and it's definitely worth your time and money.
    Expand
  14. Nov 9, 2022
    2
    Bem achei uma experiência bem fraca! eu como fan de sonic achei bem monótono o jogo estava esperando um pouco mais queria q esse jogo voltasse a ser grandioso mais q mario kkkkkk apesar de ser quase impossível espero q a sega faça um jogo melhor
  15. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    AMAZING NEW GAME. Good Story, Good Gameplay, Good Graphics. Everything’s good!
  16. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. A phenomenal Sonic game. (No spoilers) So much to explore, so many enemies to fight, so many collectibles, so much to do! This game finally feels like Sonic as a game franchise evolving. The islands are fun to explore and each have some uniqueness to them in terms of how they were designed. The combat is fast-paced enough and feels enjoyable to use with the combos and Phantom Rush, so I never got tired of it. Sonic himself starts out quite slow, but as you level his speed up, you'll notice just how fast he can traverse around the islands. That was honestly a majority of the fun I had; just blasting around the islands as fast as I could go exploring for memory tokens. Sonic controls amazing as well, although you can customize certain aspects of his movements in the settings.

    The story is the best we've gotten in a Sonic game since Unleashed, by far. Lots of world building, lore explaining, and character building moments that are fun to watch. The humor is MASSIVELY improved as well (not that that's difficult). The collectibles were fun to gather for the most part, I just wish the seeds were more abundant.

    The boss fights were the game's highlight for me. Each Titan is so unique and fun to fight, they felt like what would be final bosses of previous Sonic games. The soundtracks that play during those fights is also exhilarating.

    My main issues with the game and the reason I gave an 8, not a 10, are as follows:
    1. The pop-in for platforms and grind rails is very noticeable. It's especially bad later in the game, the faster you go.
    2. The Fishing minigame is too overpowered (super op once you reach the final island), because sometimes you can level up skills faster by fishing than you can exploring the Islands and defeating foes, which feels very wrong. This is caused by how cheap the items in the fishing shop are. Fishing mostly fine in the first Islands, but for the final island, you are allowed to buy EVERYTHING you need to reach max levels. Fishing should not benefit you more than exploring.
    3. The skill tree. It is VERY easy to max the skill tree, as I had spent all my skill points possible by the end of Ares Island. One you do unlock all your skills, your skill points become nothing other than an ever-increasing number. The skill tree itself is oddly small, with the skills themselves being a little to cheap to purchase.
    4. SPOILERS [My biggest complaint by FAR. The true final boss. By playing in hard mode, and defeating all titans, you then face the game's true final boss. "The End". Wow. It's awful. Instead of facing a final foe that puts ALL of your learned skills and abilities you learned throughout the game to the test, you instead face a space boulder and play a bare-bones top down space-shooter. The same one you only played 3 times prior throughout the entire game. It can be difficult getting the hang of it too, with all the projectiles and the switching light to dark mechanic. So, of course, not a single checkpoint throughout the entire fight. It's not fun. The best part of the true final boss, is when the space shooter stops, and you must do a few QTE's as Super Sonic.]

    Overall, the ending might not be the best, and certain aspects are balanced very well, as a whole Sonic Frontiers is a great Sonic game with lots of enjoyment to be had. I look forward to more Sonic games with open-zone, and I do hope Frontiers get DLC. With a final time of 27 hours, Sonic Frontiers is my second favorite 3D Sonic game.
    Expand
  17. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    The best sonic game since generations. Sonic is hard to control at first but once you get going, you get a feel for how to handle him. The music in this game is 10/10. One of the best sound tracks in a sonic game to date
  18. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    The game ain't nothing perfect, but as a long time fan, it's nothing but a 10/10 for me, the highs are higher than ever, and the lows are fewer and personally forgivable. There's room for improvement, but that just makes me more excited for the next step, 'cause I absolutely love the direction they are going for. Not only the best Sonic Game in a decade, but it is also one of the bests ofThe game ain't nothing perfect, but as a long time fan, it's nothing but a 10/10 for me, the highs are higher than ever, and the lows are fewer and personally forgivable. There's room for improvement, but that just makes me more excited for the next step, 'cause I absolutely love the direction they are going for. Not only the best Sonic Game in a decade, but it is also one of the bests of the franchise, maybe even top 1, depending on who you ask.

    Between my favorite points are the story, the pacing, the settings and the soundtrack. ^^
    Expand
  19. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This is an amazing 3D Platformer. I'd put it up there with the likes of Super Mario Odyssey, and Spider-Man 2018. Movement feels tight, and combat is addicting. The miniature platforming segments spread out through the air in the open world give me a constant dopamine rush.
    The Cyber-Space stages, and mini-games spread throughout the world are fun distractions in a world already full of
    This is an amazing 3D Platformer. I'd put it up there with the likes of Super Mario Odyssey, and Spider-Man 2018. Movement feels tight, and combat is addicting. The miniature platforming segments spread out through the air in the open world give me a constant dopamine rush.
    The Cyber-Space stages, and mini-games spread throughout the world are fun distractions in a world already full of fun distractions. That's probably the best way to describe this game. It's the Doritos or Arizona Iced Tea of video games. Not top quality food or anything, but you'll always take some if offered because it's delicious and part of you loves it
    Expand
  20. Nov 10, 2022
    5
    Just perfect.

    Better storyline than anything we've had since Sonic Unleashed. Writing, lore and characters ultra respected, dialogues without bad joke not funny. Gameplay is perfect, not perfect because it lacks momentum etc... Some camera bugs and clipping but that's it. Ultra giga fun with a preference for the Open-Zone (cyberspace is both better and worse than Colors/Forces). The
    Just perfect.

    Better storyline than anything we've had since Sonic Unleashed.
    Writing, lore and characters ultra respected, dialogues without bad joke not funny.

    Gameplay is perfect, not perfect because it lacks momentum etc... Some camera bugs and clipping but that's it.
    Ultra giga fun with a preference for the Open-Zone (cyberspace is both better and worse than Colors/Forces).
    The fights are fun and sometimes require good approaches to be successful.
    And I've rarely seen such an epic boss in my life (the Titans), good big vibes from Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Unleashed.

    Warning: This game is addictive. The music is too good.

    So that's it, the Sonic Cycle is broken, Sonic is BACK!
    Expand
  21. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Excelente. Lo mejor para un sonic 3D. La prensa es muy dura con este juego. Juégalo tú y no te fíes de esa nota amarilla
  22. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    not 20-30 hours like the developers said it was gonna be, I finished it in 12 hours but it’s still a good length for a sonic game…I’m not complaining maybe they meant for causals…anyways now what did I think of it? It’s a good game a great game even, best 3d sonic game I’ve played in a while, now while I had a lot of fun playing it I don’t think it’s THE best honestly I’m still gonna havenot 20-30 hours like the developers said it was gonna be, I finished it in 12 hours but it’s still a good length for a sonic game…I’m not complaining maybe they meant for causals…anyways now what did I think of it? It’s a good game a great game even, best 3d sonic game I’ve played in a while, now while I had a lot of fun playing it I don’t think it’s THE best honestly I’m still gonna have to give that title to unleashed yeah I know it might be a hot take but while it’s a HUGE step up from forces (that disastrous game) it still doesn’t surpass unleashed or even adventure 2. First off I loved the open world I loved running around and getting mentally lost in it doing all the challenges and going through all the obstacles, loopty loops, springs and all that though I do get why some people like that I personally love it because that’s what sonics all about is going through all those obstacles and there’s a bunch of then to go through and explore. Now I’m not gonna get into spoilers but the last 2 islands were kinda disappointing and the 3rd island is probly the most annoying it’s just full of 2d sections that you HAVE to go through, you can’t escape from it I lost count on how many times I accidentally gone into a 2d section I already went through being forced to go through it again until I find an escape route, also the cyberspace levels…while they are fun at times the customized controls for the open world doesn’t apply and I honestly don’t get why and due to that controlling sonic is pretty bad he just feels stiff and awkward and SIGNIFICANTLY slower the levels themselves are pretty good but controlling sonic…not so much and I’m also not a fan of sonic stopping when he homing attacks. I LOVE the combat and the skill trees I definitely felt powerful when I used different attack variations and combos especially during the big open world bosses now as for the final boss again no spoilers but it wasn’t as good as I thought it was gonna be it definitely doesn’t surpass dark gaia and surprisingly the first island was the most fun to playthrough and there was definitely quests that I did NOT like but for the most part I enjoyed myself the story wasn’t really “tear jerking” and “emotional and serious” as they hyped it up to be and it’s pretty much what you expect with the “my friends are my power” cliché but it was still a pretty good story and I had a LOT of fun playing this one, overall I give it a 8/10 hopefully one day sega and sonic team will make a game truly amazing that’ll surpass unleashed and adventures 1-2 while that’ll definitely be hard if they continue going this route I think it’s definitely possible, I’m very excited for the future of sonic! Expand
  23. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Para see sincero comparado a juegos anteriores me gustó demasiado, incluso esa idea de meter niveles o fases aparte que se jueguen con velocidad fue espectacular para no dejar el juego en solo explorar el mapa
  24. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    A game i could not put down! 24 hours of nonstop exploration, action and charm. The characters are back and reformed into something better. The story serves these characters justice. It’s a good year to be a sonic fan!
  25. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Best 3D Sonic game ever made and I've played all of them. So much fun the gameplay is perfect.
  26. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    If you're a Sonic fan, this game is a fever dream. Certainly not perfect, but fun, solid, with great characterization, and a lot of things to do. Cyberspace could have been way better, yeah, but it's fun, and the music just makes it worth it.
    The bossfights are PHENOMENAL. Did i mention that the OST is amazing too?
    Anyways. PLEASE, SONIC TEAM, SEGA. IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS, ELABORATE OVER THIS
    If you're a Sonic fan, this game is a fever dream. Certainly not perfect, but fun, solid, with great characterization, and a lot of things to do. Cyberspace could have been way better, yeah, but it's fun, and the music just makes it worth it.
    The bossfights are PHENOMENAL. Did i mention that the OST is amazing too?
    Anyways. PLEASE, SONIC TEAM, SEGA. IN THE NEXT 5 YEARS, ELABORATE OVER THIS FOUNDATION AND MAKE AN EVEN BETTER GAME FIXING ALL THE ISSUES FRONTIERS HAS. DON'T GIVE UP TO THE OPEN ZONE FORMULA JUST BECAUSE DUMB GAME JOURNALISTS.
    Expand
  27. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Amazing finally a long game. Lot of habilities and long levels. A better story with not bad jokes.
  28. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Best sonic game. While the game fouces is to collect tokens and keys to progress, it's fun to play around with those ralis and platforming and sloving the secrets of the islands. the combat system is really fun it gets so hard at the last but good And the cyper space is surprisingly fun, it has that feeling of speed running which is good. The controling in sonic is the best in 3d. And theBest sonic game. While the game fouces is to collect tokens and keys to progress, it's fun to play around with those ralis and platforming and sloving the secrets of the islands. the combat system is really fun it gets so hard at the last but good And the cyper space is surprisingly fun, it has that feeling of speed running which is good. The controling in sonic is the best in 3d. And the story ahhhhh man. I didn't feel a story or emotional for so long time for Sonic,don't get me started in the references as well. I'm very glad Ian Flynn is here♡ overall it's great experience. Expand
  29. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    Who would have guessed that hiring good writers makes the story *actually* good?
  30. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. I can say without a doubt, this is my all time favorite Sonic game, and that this is possibly one of the greatest of all time.

    In an age where everything is taken literal, Frontiers takes a steep dive into the symbolic. Through mesmerizing imagery and grandiose music, the director confronts the players with their struggles in faith and understanding. This game goes to show that you don't need to understand a game in order to feel it. And I felt every minute of this one.
    Expand
  31. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    Have never been blown away since Sonic Unleashed and Sonic and the Black Knight. Sonic is freaking back!
  32. Nov 10, 2022
    0
    Pesimo juego mal optimizado, mundo vacio y sin sentido. Una perdida de tiempo total
  33. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This game is wonderful, I'm a fan of sonic but I have to admit that the previous hedgehog games lowered the quality but this sonic frontiers has revived the franchise, It's a great game and I like that the characters are being improved since this game is after the sonic forces and we all know that it ruined many of the characters, Well, I have nothing more to say, just that it is a great game and my favorite game of the blue hedgehog
    PS: I LOVE SAGE AND FOR A MOMENT I THOUGHT THAT SONAMY WOULD COME TRUE
    Expand
  34. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. El juego me parece perfecto, tiene una buena narrativa, un combate precioso, y una de las cosas que más me llamaron la atención es que puedes interactuar con Sage desde la primera isla, haciendo que vemos un poco de su personalidad e intenciones, y pues que decir del OST, es simplemente hermoso como en cualquier juego de Sonic Lo Malo del juego es pop in que para muchos es molesto, también tiene algunos bugs pero difícilmente te los encuentras y no son perjudiciales para nada, y otra cosa en lo personal que no me gusto es que en la mayoría de islas las formas de conseguir las esmeraldas son las misma. En conclusión Es un juego a la altura y que revivirá la franquicia de Sonic Y es bueno, pero no lo suficiente para Ganarse el GOTY (talvez nominarlo) pero no ganarlo Expand
  35. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This game coming from a 15 year sonic fan was such a breath of fresh air as it has bought me back to what it feels to have a great game bugs, pop and all I love this game.
  36. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Great game! had no problems with it for the mostpart! a huge improvement on the last few games and i hope to see more improvements in both gameplay and writing in the future!
  37. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    I looooove this game to death oh my god. The open world zone was a good direction to go with, the game is not hard at all but it is so much fun to play and go as fast as possible. The cyberspace are not as bad as people claim them to be in my opinion either.
  38. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Wow!!!! Best 3D Sonic game since Sonic Adventure 1 and 2!!!! It has a gripping and thoughtful story, addicting gameplay, and some of the best music in the video game industry. The boss fights are super epic and fun especially.
  39. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    I loved the game, the combination of speed with an open world is a great combination, the only problema i had was with Sonic's Physics on Cyberspace levels, and theres no way to replay the Boss battles unless creatining a New save file, but other than that, the game os Good,
    Great,
    Awesome,
    Outstading,
    AMAZING!
  40. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Maravilhosoooooooooooooooooooo, simplesmente incrivel,só com alguns problemas tecnicos.
  41. Nov 9, 2022
    10
    Graficos, historia, gameplay, combate, tudo é muito bom e lindo, mesmo tendo uns probleminhas aí eu considero esse o melhor jogo de sonic, recomendo demais!!!
  42. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    Sonic Frontiers is definitely one of the better sonic games, in the open zones Sonic controls the best he has since the adventure games, Sonic feels kinda off in cyberspace but that's only a small portion of the game, the writing is definitely better than any of the recent Sonic games and the boss battles are some of the best in the series. I found that my experience with this game wasSonic Frontiers is definitely one of the better sonic games, in the open zones Sonic controls the best he has since the adventure games, Sonic feels kinda off in cyberspace but that's only a small portion of the game, the writing is definitely better than any of the recent Sonic games and the boss battles are some of the best in the series. I found that my experience with this game was very enjoyable and I recommend it to any sonic fan or anyone who is just a fan of video games in general. Expand
  43. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This game adds a lot of aspects from old games in the franchise, as well ask makes references. One of the best Sonic games in history, if not the best game. The open world allows players to control Sonic to the maximum of his abilities.

    The new combat system allows players to deal lethal combos when facing stronger foes. There isn’t too much platforming as we’ve seen in other modern Sonic games.

    The story carries a strong meaning within it that I believe may go over one’s head if they are not paying too close attention. I have no complaints of this game, and hope the majority of the community can agree.
    Expand
  44. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Sonic Frontiers is a unique experience with the blue hedgehog who feels amazing at the controls and brings innovative new concepts to the saga, Although the performance can be improved , the gameplay is very fun and it is certainly a step forward in a fresh and new direction that It leaves us excited to know what Sonic's next adventures will be like
  45. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    10/10 obra maestra superior a god of war y a cualquier juego que hay sacado Mario en los últimos años
  46. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    I don’t know what some critics are smoking. This game is genuinely amazing. It’s like Sonic, Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey mixed together. Even Shadow of the Colossus is in here. It should be a hot news item, how much of an achievement it is, and how Sonic Team has finally cracked the code to an incredible Sonic game.

    The Sonic stuff is the best I’ve played; the controls are
    I don’t know what some critics are smoking. This game is genuinely amazing. It’s like Sonic, Breath of the Wild and Super Mario Odyssey mixed together. Even Shadow of the Colossus is in here. It should be a hot news item, how much of an achievement it is, and how Sonic Team has finally cracked the code to an incredible Sonic game.

    The Sonic stuff is the best I’ve played; the controls are tight, the speed is fast and fun, the open world and the cyberspace levels are excellent. It’s “Breath of the Wild” because the open world is fun to explore, and you’re always running into new puzzles and collecting things that make you stronger by increasing your power and speed.

    It’s “Super Mario Odyssey” because you’re always solving little overworld puzzles to get some reward, very similar to the Moons in that game. It’s very rewarding and motivating.

    Critics have criticised the visuals. Again, I don’t know what they’re smoking. Maybe their standards are too high? Not every game has to look like God of War. I think it looks really beautiful and impressive. It’s true that there is pop-in on the overworld rail puzzles, but even this is not nearly as bad as some critics have said. Did they play a pre-patch version that had worse pop-in than the release date version? Because what I played is really not that bad, you can see many rails and platforms far into the distance.

    Some critics have criticised the combat. Again, what on Earth are they smoking? The major bosses, like those in Shadow of the Colossus, are equal parts puzzle and awesome spectacle. They’re freakin’ rad. And the general combat with smaller enemies is so much fun - it’s so deep now, it’s crazy. Sonic has so many cool combat moves (that you unlock through rpg-style progression), and it’s just fun to earn them and toy around with them. The only games with deeper combat are those that are dedicated fighting games, like Devil May Cry - is that what the critics were expecting? And it’s honestly surprisingly not that far off. Yes, I agree that some enemy designs could be more interesting, but there actually are some really cool enemy designs in here already. Anyway, the critics have lost the plot. The game is bloody good. I’d recommend it to anyone for the full asking price.
    Expand
  47. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This is a fresh new take on the series and a big step in the right direction for the future of sonic games. I haven't had this much fun with a sonic game since Sonic Unleashed. Huge props to Ian Flynn for writing such an interesting story as well. If you are a Sonic fan then I highly recommend this game.
  48. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    Sonic Frontiers is not perfect, but it's so, so much fun and has made me grin with excitement multiple times already 6 hours in. It's really just such a fun and engaging game, I cannot recommend it enough. "Open Zones" are a fantastic and well executed idea, especially with how perfectly they tied the boss fights into the concept. I really hope this is the future of the Sonic series.
  49. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Sonic hasn’t felt like sonic in a long time, frontiers is a call back from home. It feels like I’m just turning on my Dreamcast for the first time in years and are greeted with a nostalgic feeling and rush to keep playing.Welcome back little buddy!
  50. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. The Best Game of sonic until now, this game have a Lot of nostalgic Of another games, and the history is amazing, good Job Expand
  51. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Este es el claro regreso de sonic con TODO ,se nota el odio de los críticos a sonic...
  52. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    It's so nice, a nice history and nice Gameplays, some fails on game but that's all!!, I love this game so much thx you sega
  53. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    the game is good, it has a good level design and the gameplay is good, the story is very natural and it feels quite good unlike previous installments, therefore if it is recommended to buy it
  54. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This game is for Sonic fans of old generation and new. Sonic feels so refreshing and great to control. This game has great atmosphere, great music, and for once in a long time, a good story. Sonics character is fleshed out more, side characters are given more of a personality than their typical one note tropes. I greatly enjoy this game.
  55. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This game is the most advanced in the series.
    The controls are the best they've ever been. It's back as an action game.
    There are some parts that are not so clever and there are some rough edges, but I give it this score for all of them.
    Expand
  56. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    This is one of the best games I've played this year, a feast for Sonic fans
  57. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Siendo una fan de Sonic desde pequeña, y creciendo mirando a sonic, digo que este juego es de los mejores juegos de sonic en 3D desde hace ya años, este es un juego necesario para la imagen de la franquicia, la verdad muy buen juego
  58. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Es majestuoso un juego de sonic alfin lo que queriamos los fanaticos... Su diseño de nivel, la grafica, la historia los personajes y etc.. Es hermoso y no necesita tanta explicación
  59. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    It a good game and does bring sonic back into gaming it really fun to explore the open zone and but cyberspace was ok at best
  60. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Goty Yo sufria de flojera
    Pero desde que supe de la existencia de esta obra de arte, he empezado a creer en Jesus
    Y lo acepte en mi corazon
    Simplemente una maravilla
    Toma todo mi dinero Sega♡
  61. Nov 10, 2022
    3
    El juego tiene un buen apartado gráfico pero no convence tanto para ser de Sonic
    Las mecánicas son toscas y falta mucho
  62. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. 2022
    Mi nuevo favorito en la franquicia sentado maravillosamente junto a la serie Sonic Unleashed . La variedad de encuentros con enemigos por isla y la sensación de ir a tu propio ritmo que crea el mundo abierto es una de las mejores que he encontrado. La mezcla de realismo y animación siempre se ve bien y la banda sonora es estelar. Si esperas jugar al 100% este juego, prepárate para sumergirte en una gran experiencia creada por Sonic Team
    Expand
  63. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    Honestly, not the best Sonic game, but for sure a really great one nonetheless. It's been awhile since a 3D Sonic game actually had me zoned out and focused on it. While this doesn't have the exactly what I'm looking for from Sonic, it's still better than the silly stuff that he's been involved in.
    The gameplay is lit; Can be addicting to just zoom around and explore.
    Graphically it
    Honestly, not the best Sonic game, but for sure a really great one nonetheless. It's been awhile since a 3D Sonic game actually had me zoned out and focused on it. While this doesn't have the exactly what I'm looking for from Sonic, it's still better than the silly stuff that he's been involved in.
    The gameplay is lit; Can be addicting to just zoom around and explore.
    Graphically it isn't all that great , but truth be told, personally I don't think Sonic needs to look realistic in anyway. Could still use some touch up, but pretty decent overall.
    Where I'm at writing this review, the story is pretty alright, but once again, not exactly what I'm looking for. But it's sufficing at the moment.
    Too keep it short tho from here on out. It's really cool & great !
    Expand
  64. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Una Joya lo que hicieron con Sonic, bien merecida está evolución del erizo azul, el mejor juego de su franquicia sin duda alguna
  65. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Sonic foi um jogo fantástico na minha opinião, teve muitas inovações, nostalgia e personagens carismáticos, não tem piadas genéricas do Sonic, algo que não gostei muito nos anteriores ele está bem mais maduro e responsável, resumindo, este é um novo passo para os jogos do Sonic. Parabéns Sega por fazer um jogo espetacular. Eu não gostei do fato de que os Haters estavam dando uma nota baixaSonic foi um jogo fantástico na minha opinião, teve muitas inovações, nostalgia e personagens carismáticos, não tem piadas genéricas do Sonic, algo que não gostei muito nos anteriores ele está bem mais maduro e responsável, resumindo, este é um novo passo para os jogos do Sonic. Parabéns Sega por fazer um jogo espetacular. Eu não gostei do fato de que os Haters estavam dando uma nota baixa para um jogo tão bom quanto este. Expand
  66. Nov 10, 2022
    7
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Sonic Frontiers leaves much to be desired in terms of replayability, and for a grande finale. The final boss is extremely underwhelming, even on hard mode where you have to do an extra mini game to defeat it. Unless you are adamant about getting all your trophies and achievements, the game offers little to no replay value post story. Expand
  67. Nov 10, 2022
    4
    As a long-time Sonic fan (@39) I've been through pretty much all Sonic games (minus Nintendo Exclusives, Forces & Colors HD) I can say this game isn't as bad as Sonic '06, but it isn't better than Sonic Unleashed as far as gameplay goes. The storyline, dialog, and cinematics I have to admit very well done though.

    To me, Sonic Adventure for the Dreamcast will always be top-tier. The
    As a long-time Sonic fan (@39) I've been through pretty much all Sonic games (minus Nintendo Exclusives, Forces & Colors HD) I can say this game isn't as bad as Sonic '06, but it isn't better than Sonic Unleashed as far as gameplay goes. The storyline, dialog, and cinematics I have to admit very well done though.

    To me, Sonic Adventure for the Dreamcast will always be top-tier. The gameplay in Frontiers is frustrating at times simply because of all the combinations of attacks and moves. The trainer is okay to learn the attacks but it just throws you in. I died many times battling the island bosses simply because there is no explanation on how to go about the quick-time reactions.

    Another issue is the locked camera, there are times I needed to look at the stages to see if I missed a ring or item. I can't turn around the camera to look back. Plus, batting the bosses also proved difficult because of the camera getting either getting up close to Sonic or so far away you can't see where you are at.

    The stages you go through are all the same type, just different arrangments, all based on stages that have been used in the past (Green Hill, Chemical Planet, Sky Sanctuary, City Escape) All 'nostalgic' levels, nothing original other than the music for those stages.

    I loved previous Sonic titles because it was simple and enjoyable (for the most part). Frontiers could have worked if it was a new franchise maybe, but to take the Sonic franchise (to me) and make it seem more RPG-ish to nearly grind for items for Sonic to gain new abilities and attacks isn't what a Sonic game is about IMO.

    I get that many others love the game. I believe that to be more among the lines of 'Honey Moon' phase, great at first but soon the facts start to settle in once all fan fair dies out, Frontiers will eventually show its flaws. Simply put, Sonic Frontiers is a very complex game for even a veteran Sonic gamer like myself and too complex for its own good.

    The only saving grace in this game is the storyline (thanks in part to Ian Flynn), dialog, and cinematics as I said before.
    Expand
  68. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    I loved sonic frontiers on some many points The sonic freedom through the islands with an impressive speed and a beautiful game.
    I feel like im the character and the big boss of the islands, now I can introduce the gameplay.
    After all these trailers the gameplay is really great with a lot of abilities for sonic (fight, drop dash, air boost…) and this is something new for the franchise I
    I loved sonic frontiers on some many points The sonic freedom through the islands with an impressive speed and a beautiful game.
    I feel like im the character and the big boss of the islands, now I can introduce the gameplay.

    After all these trailers the gameplay is really great with a lot of abilities for sonic (fight, drop dash, air boost…) and this is something new for the franchise I appreciated that because it works.

    Obviously there are many ennemies and bosses on the islands but I think you’ll have the same ennemies again and again it seem it will be kinda boring but you have different options to fight those ennemies.

    The average popping is a negative point, we are in 2022 and this isn’t esthetic for the game and I feel like a lack of time for the sonic team.

    The story is immersive and I found my sonic, this guy so cool and ready to help his friends no matter what, knuckles tails and Amy are fantastic i feel this link between the characters.

    Now let’s talk about the cyberspace and… Im split.
    We are tired of the same stages: Green Hill Chemical plant and sky sanctuary… okay it’s sonic memories BUT there are A LOT OF levels through the sonic games.
    Like you have: Spagonia, Kingdom Valley, twinkle mountain, jungle (sonic adventure 2 stage) I can’t trust they didn’t think about that.
    The gameplay is weird sonic seems like is so slow you don’t this feeling of soled through the cyberspace.
    The animations is mediocre when sonic is on rails and ****
    But In the same time I liked the cyberspace, I’m a sonic fan and these stages remind me these 3D games like unleashed and generation even if the gameplay isn’t good compared to unleashed/generation.

    Super sonic ? Super sonic oh my god it was one of my favorite part, the titans are amazing and terrifying and versatile. Giganto raven and samouraï was amazing and the freedom for super sonic is amazing too not just boost through the ennemie and that’s all, hell nah you’ll fight the ennemies and find strategies to hit’em up.

    To conclude sonic frontiers was a good game for me, he has his qualities like his defaults but it was really fun and immersive on all points.
    I can’t wait the future of my favorite character.
    Expand
  69. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    the best sonic game I've ever played in my life is cyberspace and the combination of some stages of some games like (sonic colors, sonic generations) and the open world with the new skills is very cool.
  70. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This is the Sonic game that fans have waiting for and the battles in this game are insane!
  71. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Perfecto,excelente, hermoso, bien hecho. Es lo que puedo decir de este juego y vale toda la pena recorrer todas las islas hasta el último rincón, la parte en donde vez a los Titanes antes de treparte a ellos para la última esmeralda de cada isla la vista es excelente, Me encanta en la que tails ya no quiere ser salvado por Sonic a cada rato me encanto el desarrollo del personaje, la escena emotiva de sage cuando la vemos por primera vez como buena y el recuerdo de eggman y la canción me hizo llorar, los acertijos son algo repetitivos pero tienen más difícultad, el minijuego de Big es excelente para entretener, algo que sería negativo para mí sería en qué que es muy fácil de conseguir las llaves de portal con el minijuego de Big, le quita la necesidad de entrar a los niveles del ciberespacio pero de ahí en fuera el juego es perfecto, tal vez el juego no sea tan innovador al ser mundo abierto pero es el juego qué Sonic necesitaba y las referencias no se quedan atrás hasta algunas me dió nostalgia de tan solo verlas como a Sonic recordándole a tails que salvó Station square es una escena que me recordó a Sonic adventure 1 ya que es mi juego favorito de la franquicia en 3d este juego definitivamente hizo que Sonic regresará como era antes Expand
  72. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    I love this game. I’m 17 and I’ve been with Sonic since I was 3. I’ve seen it all. My favorite game of all time is Sonic Unleashed for Xbox 360 and PS3. I can confidentially say this game is great. The open world is so fun and the music is some of the best this series has gotten. My favorite part is the boss fights. The boss fights in this game are the best the series have ever gotten,I love this game. I’m 17 and I’ve been with Sonic since I was 3. I’ve seen it all. My favorite game of all time is Sonic Unleashed for Xbox 360 and PS3. I can confidentially say this game is great. The open world is so fun and the music is some of the best this series has gotten. My favorite part is the boss fights. The boss fights in this game are the best the series have ever gotten, except for maybe the final boss, which was a bit of a letdown. The open world gameplay is so much fun, and it’s even more fun when you have the max amount of runs and get even faster. The story tries to be big, but it is just around the quality of Unleashed’s story, and unfortunately isn’t as good as the story in Adventure 2. However, the ending almost made me tear up. The cyberspace levels I am mixed about. The last island has completely original levels, other than one, but most of them are good. Unfortunately, the cyberspace levels in the earlier islands aren't so lucky. Some levels from earlier islands have level design taken from old levels, which sometimes feels lazy. However, the 3D stages are really fun. The 2D sections of cyberspace levels are probably the worst part of the game and the physics are why. You should also make sure to clear as many of the mini games that expand your GPS as possible or else you could be stuck searching for portals. However, overall, this game is fantastic. Get this game now. Also PLAY THE GAME ON HARD MODE or else you won’t get the true final boss. Actually, you only need to switch to hard mode before you get the 6th chaos emerald on the 5th and last island, but you should play the game on hard mode anyway because it’s not even hard. Get this game. Expand
  73. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This is the best sonic game I've played in a long time.
    It took me 20 hours to beat this game.
    That's just insane for a sonic game.
  74. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Sonic Frontiers Is The Sonic Game That Every Sonic Fan has Been Waiting For, The Depth Of Sonic Finally is Shown, The Relationships With His Friends, the call backs to the idw comics and past shows, this is the best game since 2011 Expand
  75. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    One of the best sonic games ive ever played, yes it has some bugs and minor graphical/technical problems, but Sonic Team have finally regained that legendary ambition they once had. This open world formula can be perfected into something amazing. As well as bringing back the serious dark era tone stories that make sonic games epic and grand. Amazing music, amazing visuals. Sonic team mustOne of the best sonic games ive ever played, yes it has some bugs and minor graphical/technical problems, but Sonic Team have finally regained that legendary ambition they once had. This open world formula can be perfected into something amazing. As well as bringing back the serious dark era tone stories that make sonic games epic and grand. Amazing music, amazing visuals. Sonic team must now focus on improving on this open world/boost formula, go beyond, and put sonic back on the gaming podium, and its clear from frontiers that they have the potential to do just that. Expand
  76. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    It's actually a major step forward from older games. It has some issues but it's definitely a good game ;)
  77. Nov 10, 2022
    8
    After 11 years, we finally have another good Sonic Team game. Sonic Frontiers returns tropes from older games in the series, namely the hidden lore and extended story of the series, as seen in the two Sonic Adventure games. The game has a gameplay loop of exploring the islands to find tokens, fighting mini-bosses (Which I actually felt there weren't enough of at some points), and runningAfter 11 years, we finally have another good Sonic Team game. Sonic Frontiers returns tropes from older games in the series, namely the hidden lore and extended story of the series, as seen in the two Sonic Adventure games. The game has a gameplay loop of exploring the islands to find tokens, fighting mini-bosses (Which I actually felt there weren't enough of at some points), and running through Cyberspace. Cyberspace physics were janky, and it took me a while to accept that many stages re-used old level design, but it was fun recognizing certain level layouts from Sonic's past. One thing I'd like to see in a potential follow-up to this game is replacing Cyberspace with more "levels in the open zone"- it's hard to understand what I"m describing if you haven't played the game. Though I still have a good amount of the game before I beat it, I've really enjoyed all of it so far, and I can't wait to see how Sonic Team takes what they've learned from this game to make something ven better. Expand
  78. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    The best 3D Sonic game EVER! Only have it below Sonic 3 & Knuckles. Loved my experience with this game, I loved the game so much I was emotional at simple moments. Made an account just to rate it so good: Thank you SEGA!
  79. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Really enjoy the game, espically the mission and the world full of a of things to do.
    I recommend the game its great game must be played.
  80. Nov 10, 2022
    9
    Peak fiction, goat, raw, fire. The boss fights are fantastic, and how Super Sonic plays beautifully.
  81. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This game is amazing is just what the franchise needed the open world is great and if you get bored of the open world you can take a break with the cyberspace and big's fishing minigame the characters were fixed sonic still makes jokes but not as much as in sonic forces Expand
  82. Nov 10, 2022
    4
    Boring combat, soulless and bloated open world and a very forgettable soundtrack. The actual sonic stages are great but are criminally short.
  83. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Lo que la saga necesitaba, este es el mejor juego desde unleashed.

    Una gran historia, gran jugabilidad y la banda sonora cumple como siempre
  84. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Finalmente Sonic se provando o por que sempre será melhor Mario, voltando ao topo!
  85. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Best Sonic game in a while, the "professionals" giving it a 20 or minus (especially Digital) while not fully playing it is really dumb, i say play the whole game and it will change your mind.
  86. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This really Is a big change compared to te last Sonic games, It realluy deserves to rate it as a top tier Sonic game. It really needs more time for people to really apreciate this game. Expand
  87. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    I had a great experience playing this game, enjoyed the history and glad to see Sonic back in action, best game of Sonic after so many years
  88. Nov 10, 2022
    5
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Over all definitely best game in the past decade, nice to see upgradable combat and versatility/variety in Sonics move set. Open world and serious story are a massive draw as a long time Sonic fan. This game hits all the key points on the head, the only thing that I would change is the cyber space levels. There needs to be more variety in locations and better controlling for Sonic.
    This is obviously a smaller part of the game and is immediately forgiven when they allowed me to go super sonic and beat the ever living snot out of massive titans!
    Pop in was minimal, graphics were good but not perfect If you are a Sonic fan and like lore, excellent game play, references to other characters from other Sonic media, insane fluidity in movement and traversal, this game is perfect for you.
    Expand
  89. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    One of the best Sonic games of all time! I love the game, its good to see that Sonic is back
  90. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Sonic Team listened. It's what we've all been waiting for. Just buy it already
  91. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    The first amazing 3D game since generations. The critic reviews did this game dirty, especially digital trends. This is an easy 9-10, I'm giving it a 10 to offset the horrible treatment this game got by critics. The only negatives I have to say are the game gets a little bit repetitive and the cyberspace stages are largely mediocre. If they were to come out with a sequel that refined theThe first amazing 3D game since generations. The critic reviews did this game dirty, especially digital trends. This is an easy 9-10, I'm giving it a 10 to offset the horrible treatment this game got by critics. The only negatives I have to say are the game gets a little bit repetitive and the cyberspace stages are largely mediocre. If they were to come out with a sequel that refined the formula of this game, it would be an amazing game. Give us more things to do in the open world and give the boost stages better controls, more speed, and original tropes and level design. It's as easy as that and this game would be near-perfect for me. Good job, Sega. Expand
  92. Nov 10, 2022
    3
    While not the worst sonic game, it feels half baked with the open world and generic art design, along with the uninteresting story. Also Christ the pop in is too much
  93. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Franchement je comprends pas pk tout le Monde crache sur Sonic frontiers. On est pas fan de Sonic pour ce qu'on aimerait ce qu'il soit mais pour ce qu'il est. Et à ce que je sache on à jamais joué à Sonic pour ses graphismes, les FPS ou quoique ce soit. On joue Sonic pour l'expérience qu'il peux offrir les musiques, la course le combat style Sonic. Des histoires parfois peut-être simpleFranchement je comprends pas pk tout le Monde crache sur Sonic frontiers. On est pas fan de Sonic pour ce qu'on aimerait ce qu'il soit mais pour ce qu'il est. Et à ce que je sache on à jamais joué à Sonic pour ses graphismes, les FPS ou quoique ce soit. On joue Sonic pour l'expérience qu'il peux offrir les musiques, la course le combat style Sonic. Des histoires parfois peut-être simple serte mais si vous voulez du grand scénarios, alors qu'est-ce que vous branler ici? Retourner voir gode of War si vous voulez du graphisme... Puis au moin les jeux Sonic à au moin l'audace d'innover contrairement un certain plombier qui nous recyclé le même jeux depuis 40 balais et personne dis rien. Où pire Pokémon Arceus qui est juste dégueulasse mais c pas grave parce que c Pokémon, franchement c'est de l'hypocrisie, c dégueulasse, ouij suis vénère, et moi qui joué à tout les jeux Sonic du 1er jusqu'au dernier Sonic frontiers est juste génial. Expand
  94. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Whatever they say about it The truly who know of the sonic franchise is us to judge
  95. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Absolutely love this game. It's so atmospheric and the open world setting is brilliant. So much to discover and the more you play, the more you learn and get used to the great controls and battle moves. Some really cool ways of fighting and rushing around the brilliantly realised world. The best Sonic game in years and a really exciting step forward in the right direction.
  96. Nov 10, 2022
    0
    this is shame for real Sonic, they just use name to grind more money nothing more. very bad try for game.
  97. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. From the first 5 hours I spend playing this game and defeating the first boss, this is the best sonic game I've ever played!! The moment the first boss battle started and sonic got the 7th chaos emerald and the music featuring Kellin Quinn from Sleeping With Sirens came came on I knew this was a phenomenal game seeing super sonic pull off moves like it was an anime was the best thing I've seen and gave me chills. The traversal and voice acting along with the tons of stuff to do brings the feeling of "one more puzzle" and not going to sleep. This is a phenomenal game so far and I want to continue and perfect It 100% Expand
  98. Nov 10, 2022
    4
    Very stiff game and a bit boring at times, but better than some Sonic even though the level is very low.
  99. Nov 10, 2022
    1
    I was going to give this game an 8/10, but then i realized that it is a Sonic Game so......
    Overall, Fortnite is better.
  100. Nov 10, 2022
    10
    Es muy buen juego la verdad, en si mi calificación es un 8 por que no tiene doblaje latino y las gráficas la verdad dejan mucho que desear, pero le pongo 10 para apoyar el juego, ya que la crítica no fue muy imparcial que digamos, la verdad exageran un poco, no es como dicen, es un juego decente, y a mi me gusto.
Metascore
70

Mixed or average reviews - based on 90 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 52 out of 90
  2. Negative: 6 out of 90
  1. LEVEL (Czech Republic)
    Jan 24, 2024
    60
    The idea and vision of the game is absolutely fabulous. In practice, however, the game is brought down by its execution, which you can see through after a short while and then the game has nothing to surprise you with. [Issue#324]
  2. Feb 22, 2023
    30
    There is nothing remotely redeeming about this game. Nothing that even the most die-hard loyal Sonic Fans would or should advocate for. I hope that one day someone who cares enough about this franchise could give us something-anything of substance. A fan can hope, can’t they? A fan can hope.
  3. Feb 4, 2023
    80
    Finally, after almost 25years of half measures and mostly mediocre titles, Sonic has finally reached the 3D levels of gameplay it needed to reach. Yes, the pop in is absolutely inexcusable and the ancient gatekeeping grindy methods damage the flow of the game for no reason, but a wonderfully built base exists here, with a highly entertaining adventure in wonderfully melancholic world and a surprisingly well founded story, thankfully clean of Sonic’s annoying 3rd tier friends!