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  1. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    THis game isn't worth 60 bucks. They could have easily released this as an extension pack for mw2, because its the same exact engine, same gameplay, same everything except for a few new multiplayer maps. its just a very lazy attempt to cash in on 60 bucks.
  2. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    wish i had believed some of the views in metacritic(thought they were all bf3 fanboys).what a dissapointment mw3 is, its like playing mw1. black ops was a much better game. Taking my copy of mw3 into game today to trade in. Anyone looking for a good game go for gears 3. with fifa and now mw3 i feel the 360 is coming to the end of its lifecycle, developers have pushed the current genwish i had believed some of the views in metacritic(thought they were all bf3 fanboys).what a dissapointment mw3 is, its like playing mw1. black ops was a much better game. Taking my copy of mw3 into game today to trade in. Anyone looking for a good game go for gears 3. with fifa and now mw3 i feel the 360 is coming to the end of its lifecycle, developers have pushed the current gen consoles to the limit and have no where else to go. microsoft please bring out a new xbox asap Expand
  3. Nov 11, 2011
    1
    First thing I play this game a lot of time it's like modern warfare2 so match doesn't have any thing good just no Difference. The Visualization is same black ops no Difference ether 'I just want ask Activision abut Graphics Engine Why don't make new engine like other Companies ha !!! Is the last game doesn't make A LOT money like 25m copy x 60$=1.5 billion and and half dollars . we loveFirst thing I play this game a lot of time it's like modern warfare2 so match doesn't have any thing good just no Difference. The Visualization is same black ops no Difference ether 'I just want ask Activision abut Graphics Engine Why don't make new engine like other Companies ha !!! Is the last game doesn't make A LOT money like 25m copy x 60$=1.5 billion and and half dollars . we love this title but we are not stopped and we abut this company she like take a money for any thing doesn't Worth Of course not Hell
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  4. Nov 11, 2011
    3
    Here is the deal- I loved the jump forward that Treyarch achieved with the gameplay of Black Ops. That is the reason Black Ops did so well too, was the tightness and precision in gameplay. But rather than build on that, Infinity Ward simply took the same game build from MW2, tweaked it a little, improved the graphics, and voila- MW3. You cannot take a step forward in gameplay, the mostHere is the deal- I loved the jump forward that Treyarch achieved with the gameplay of Black Ops. That is the reason Black Ops did so well too, was the tightness and precision in gameplay. But rather than build on that, Infinity Ward simply took the same game build from MW2, tweaked it a little, improved the graphics, and voila- MW3. You cannot take a step forward in gameplay, the most important aspect of gaming period, and then take a step back. That is why I am trading this game in today when I buy Skyrim. That is why this game should not fare as well in sales as Black Ops. Infinity Ward made a game that feels like you should be popping quarters into it, rather than emulate the precision Treyarch achieved. Infinity Ward- I hope you are listening. Expand
  5. Nov 11, 2011
    1
    waste of time. graphics aren't much better. guess ill stick with MW2 and BF3. was looking forward to this but...it just feels like every other COD game. I thought this was going to be a fun, but just feels like a CD stuck on repeat.
  6. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    I have played modern warfare 2, and i must say that this game is virtually no different!, i am extremely disapointed and think this game is a joke, the men look like plasticine and the animations make the guy look like hes paralysed from the waist down. The graphics are out of date and there is a lack of any innovative new changes. Online is repetitive and the single player campaign isI have played modern warfare 2, and i must say that this game is virtually no different!, i am extremely disapointed and think this game is a joke, the men look like plasticine and the animations make the guy look like hes paralysed from the waist down. The graphics are out of date and there is a lack of any innovative new changes. Online is repetitive and the single player campaign is very short. Wait for it to be in a bargain bin before you even think of buying this game Expand
  7. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Not that there is anything wrong with the entire system of how MW works, but if it is exactly the same, why in the hell would you pay 60 dollars for a map pack? And dont bull****, we all know it is the same rehashed game. Campaign, sucks... period. Same TERRIBLE community of fanboys showing undeniable fealty to anything the devs say. 0 out of 10
  8. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Ce jeu est une merde c'est un copier coller de modern warfare 1 mais a 70 euros grosse merde du deja vu 600000000fois le solo est ennuyant a mourir les script on les connait tous il était deja présent dans mw1 le jeu est moche c'est de l'arnaque !!!!!!!!!!
  9. Nov 11, 2011
    1
    more than 20 days on mw2, 30 days on black ops ( experienced player )
    i am disappointed with mw3, horrible maps seriously what wer they thinking this game is a downgrade from mw2 imo
    the sound effects are horrible all pistols sound the same all shotguns sound the same infested with (ghost) assasin an unmathced perk in the second class with immunity to cuav and emp seriously wtf boring
    more than 20 days on mw2, 30 days on black ops ( experienced player )
    i am disappointed with mw3, horrible maps seriously what wer they thinking this game is a downgrade from mw2 imo
    the sound effects are horrible all pistols sound the same all shotguns sound the same
    infested with (ghost) assasin an unmathced perk in the second class
    with immunity to cuav and emp seriously wtf
    boring killstreaks

    the only good thing about the game was survival
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  10. Nov 11, 2011
    3
    Ahh, the irony: MODERN Warfare? Perhaps if it was 2007, I would be blown away. But alas! Last I checked, it's 2011 and this installment pales in comparison to the precision, smooth gameplay, realism, and FUN factor of Black Ops. I am well aware of the concept of a series, so I'm not going to slam the fact that it is more of the same. I expected more of the same, but BETTER. ItAhh, the irony: MODERN Warfare? Perhaps if it was 2007, I would be blown away. But alas! Last I checked, it's 2011 and this installment pales in comparison to the precision, smooth gameplay, realism, and FUN factor of Black Ops. I am well aware of the concept of a series, so I'm not going to slam the fact that it is more of the same. I expected more of the same, but BETTER. It simply is not. So disappointed. Trading it in today for Skyrim and will wait for the next COD installment in 2012, most likely to be developed by Treyarch. Oh, and for the record: BF3 sucks, too. Expand
  11. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    I don't understand how this game was in development for two years when it's the same as mw2. This is sad that this game has not changed. I'm happy i got this from gamefly instead of buying it.
  12. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Modern Warfare 3 is little more than another $59.99 map pack for Call of Duty 4. It's really time that Activision did more than just employing 2 game developers to move building around on maps, change some textures and some minor tweaking of features and then calling it a new game. So lame.
  13. Nov 11, 2011
    3
    As a long time fan of the series (and border line fanboy) this game was a huge let down. The campaign was ok at best. The multiplayer is just terrible. Bullet recognition seems to have gotten worse. At least in MW2 when I pulled up on an enemy charging at me I knew that I was going to get the kill. Now it seems that you can be first to spot your enemy running along, first to aim, first toAs a long time fan of the series (and border line fanboy) this game was a huge let down. The campaign was ok at best. The multiplayer is just terrible. Bullet recognition seems to have gotten worse. At least in MW2 when I pulled up on an enemy charging at me I knew that I was going to get the kill. Now it seems that you can be first to spot your enemy running along, first to aim, first to fire, and the first to die with your opponent getting away without a scratch. It's also even easier now to pin your opponents in their spawn. How random is the spawning when your are already in their sights, spawned around the corner from where you just died, or spawning an enemy directly behind you within 5 seconds of running out of the spawn?

    I honestly don't think gamers wanted a lot of change. Which, in a way, is good because this game doesn't deliver in that respect. What a lot of gamers wanted was a game that worked. The series MW series started 4 years ago and seems to be going backwards since.
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  14. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Best game in history of games.
    Absolutely outstanding and nothing like the 2nd or first one.
    Best game in history of games.
    Absolutely outstanding and nothing like the 2nd or first one.
    Best game in history of games.
    Absolutely outstanding and nothing like the 2nd or first one.
    Best game in history of games.
    Absolutely outstanding and nothing like the 2nd or first one.Best game in history of games.
    Absolutely outstanding and nothing like the 2nd or first one.

    Yes.
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  15. enx
    Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Not great - took no risks and kept the same twitchy gameplay. Boring. I enjoyed the previous games (with the exception of blops) but I have moved on to BF3.
  16. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Seriously unforgivable what this game is. It's a last minute cash in by idiotic company that doesn't know when to let a game die. Then, to have the audacity to go ask for people to write nice reviews for you? It's sickening. I'm never buying another iw ward game, and certainly not another call of duty. This series should have ended with cod 4.
  17. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Wow 0.0 for failure to try anything new... BF3 all the way for me.. MW is officially dead! Multiplayer feels dusty old and used. Map design is horrid. Most of all i cant stand the little kids on xbox live.
  18. Nov 11, 2011
    1
    I used to love playing COD4, MW2 and Black Ops. There was a variety of multiplayer gameplay: run n gun, flanking, sniping etc. MW3 is just a chaotic mess of close quarters gun spray. you're as likely to kill as get killed. skill doesn't seem to come into it. it's a monotonous, wearying experience. every map is basically the same but with different skins: alleyways and a hill in an AfricanI used to love playing COD4, MW2 and Black Ops. There was a variety of multiplayer gameplay: run n gun, flanking, sniping etc. MW3 is just a chaotic mess of close quarters gun spray. you're as likely to kill as get killed. skill doesn't seem to come into it. it's a monotonous, wearying experience. every map is basically the same but with different skins: alleyways and a hill in an African village, corridors in a european town, tunnels in a construction yard. same design, same gameplay, just different surface appearance. Activision have given us a lazy collection of maps, designed for the lowest common denominator player. Bitterly disappointing. Better off returning to Battlefield 3, which offers better maps, greater gameplay variety, and is all round a more demanding and enjoyable game. Expand
  19. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    This game should be sold at half price. For one, the riot shield is still overpowered and noobs use it on every map. Also why is it that when I fire a rocket at a building, the building holds up to said rocket? Rockets are explosive and explosions usually cause structural damage. For a company with the name "Sledgehammer," this game sure does lack a lot of sledgehammers. Modern Wafer 4This game should be sold at half price. For one, the riot shield is still overpowered and noobs use it on every map. Also why is it that when I fire a rocket at a building, the building holds up to said rocket? Rockets are explosive and explosions usually cause structural damage. For a company with the name "Sledgehammer," this game sure does lack a lot of sledgehammers. Modern Wafer 4 definitely needs more sledgehammers if they expect to see more shallowminded non-gamers dashing out at midnight to buy another copy of the same game with an ever so slightly different cover. Also Skyrim is out in the same week. Go play Skyrim you fools. Expand
  20. Nov 11, 2011
    0
    Francamente, se repiten. Me parece haber jugado ya a este juego una y otra vez. Si por lo menos el multijugador hubiera evolucionado y traiga novedades frescas e interesantes, pero no es un refrito de todo lo demás con un motor gráfico que envejece. Decepcionado. Ya pueden tomar medidas para el futuro.
  21. Nov 11, 2011
    4
    Pretty much split the baby with my score. The game itself probably deserves about 8 - 9, but the lack of innovation certainly deserves a 1 or 2 (and I can't even say I disagree with 0s). Basically, if you have never played a MW game before, this is a really good game and worth picking up. However, if you have played the rest of the games in the series, you are probably in the camp thatPretty much split the baby with my score. The game itself probably deserves about 8 - 9, but the lack of innovation certainly deserves a 1 or 2 (and I can't even say I disagree with 0s). Basically, if you have never played a MW game before, this is a really good game and worth picking up. However, if you have played the rest of the games in the series, you are probably in the camp that believes this game should have been a $20 DLC, not a full retail game. Good game, but disappointing. Expand
  22. Nov 11, 2011
    4
    Obviously Critics are getting paid to rate this game....

    There is no way this "Map pack for mw2" is deserving of its critic rating. Every person I know has either returned the game or is already playing Black Ops again.
    Glad Skyrim comes out today.....

    Hate,
    Mr. Merkintosh.
  23. Nov 12, 2011
    0
    I sat I line for 6 hours for this while they promised they were going "back to there roots" of the cod 4 days ...first impression dosent feel like infinity ward...feels like another horrid treyarch "those guys need to be fired" but I gave it a shot now at level 60 ish I've realized its unplayable the spawns are so broken enemys actually spawn on top of you after you kill them..sureI sat I line for 6 hours for this while they promised they were going "back to there roots" of the cod 4 days ...first impression dosent feel like infinity ward...feels like another horrid treyarch "those guys need to be fired" but I gave it a shot now at level 60 ish I've realized its unplayable the spawns are so broken enemys actually spawn on top of you after you kill them..sure survival is sweet and campaign is ok but everyone buys cod for multiplayer am I right ? Maps are to small for sniping no lines ..but why bother enemys spawn behind you so that defeats the purpose when you find a line all snipers also feel very fake not like the last 2 titles very cartoonish...camping is at an all time high due to spawns and I googled and found theres actually tons of clans just dedicated to nothing but spawn trapping !!!!! It's really sad because cod 4 was the most amazing game ever made then they had to turn it into a cash cow and keep rehashing "yes I said it idc if you made new modes etc you didn't fix the broken **** " and ruined the series by turning it into what it is today...this defined the fps shooter years ago and now has become nothing but a twitch shooter...broken with glitches mods and others ..

    I WANT IT TO BE KNOWN I CREATED THIS ACCOUNT FOR THIS REVIEW SOLEY BECAUSE I SAW ONE OF THE CREATERS OF THIS GAME CRYING ON TWITTER THAT HIS GAME HAS A LOW META CRITIC SCORE AND ASKING PEOPLE TO FIVE IT HIGH SCORES I HOPE HE SEES THIS AND UNDERSTANDS WHY IT'S GETTING HORRID REVIEWS FROM THE ACTUAL GAMERS THAT BOUGHT THIS I COULD CARE LESS WHAT IGN SAYS ABOUT THERE REVIEWS .

    BOTTOM LINE --FIX YOUR RETARDED SPAWN SYSTEM --SAM TURRETS AREN'T WORTH SQUAT COULDN'T SHOOT DOWN A PIGEON --BRING BACK THE REAL INFINITY WARD -- FIRE TREYARCH --FIX YOUR RETARDED SPAWN SYSTEM (YUP I SAID IT AGAIN IT'S THAT BAD)
    --ELITE? LMAO THAT NEEDS IT'S OWN SECTION ELITE -----
    BROKEN BROKEN BROKEN DOSENT WORK CAN'T SIGN IN JUST CRASHED BROKEN.
    YET THEY STILL TOOK EVERYONES MONEY BUT WAIT WE GET A MONTH FREE GEE WOW HEY MORONS GUESS WHAT BATTLEFIELD BATTLELOG -----FREEE GUESS WHAT MAPS ARE FREE TO HALO STATS -------FREEE WHAT THE HELL MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO YOUR ROOTS BECAUSE THERE GONE !!!!
    YOU LOST VINCE YOU LOST INFINITY AND NOW YOUR TRYING TO MAKE GAMES WITH WHAT HE LEFT BEHIND CASHING IN EVERY WAY YOU CAN YOU RUINED GUITAR HERO THE SAME WAY (THE OTHER IDIOTS OF THIS GAME ACTIVISION)
    HAD ONE NEW IDEA PPL LIKE WHAT DID YOU DO?
    YOU BADGER THE LIVING **** OUT OF IT UNTIL PPL HATED MUSIC WE HAVE EVERYTHING FIGURATIVE HERO FROM MONKEYS BASHING FRYING PANS TO METALLICA JUST ANOTHER CASH COW I'M DONE I HOPE YOU SEE THIS AND FIX WHAT YOU'VE DONE IF YOU FIX WHAT I STATE BELOW I WILL PERSONALLY COME BACK ON HERE AND GIVE THIS GAME A 10

    FIX ELITE GET THE ELITE MOBILE APPS OUT MOST IMPORTANTLY -------FIX THE RETARDED SPAWN SYSTEM-----------

    I HOPE YOU SEE THIS AND DO THE RIGHT THING
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  24. Nov 12, 2011
    4
    This game is almost, if not, excactly the same as its predecessors. It seems that with Call of Duty, the recipe to make tons of money is to **** out the same game every year. Sure, it's fun, but it's more of a expansion pack to MW2 - no innovation, nothing new - it plays almost excactly the same as MW2 and Call of Duty 4. All it is is a few changed guns and maps. Most expansion packs haveThis game is almost, if not, excactly the same as its predecessors. It seems that with Call of Duty, the recipe to make tons of money is to **** out the same game every year. Sure, it's fun, but it's more of a expansion pack to MW2 - no innovation, nothing new - it plays almost excactly the same as MW2 and Call of Duty 4. All it is is a few changed guns and maps. Most expansion packs have new guns and maps, and this is all the game feels like aside from it's singleplayer aspect. Then again, you will have the fanboys raving over every title that has "Call of Duty" in the name - when it's been the same thing for the past 4 years. The Singleplayer follows the cliché "AMERICA #1" scenario, letting you take control of soldiers worldwide - helping the United States as usual. The game will then and there throw in a few scripted events for destruction, replacing the need for real-time destruction and physics. Because that's so cool, right?

    Overall, this would be decent if it wasn't the exact same thing as MW2. It follows the same dragged on cliché plotline of the Modern Warfare series that 12 year olds world wide have grown to love.
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  25. Nov 12, 2011
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. WTF!!! ThiS Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 2011 Edtion ..totally waste of Money .. Save Your money For something else .. damn it .. 60$ for map pack .. it is the same old same old Expand
  26. Nov 12, 2011
    1
    I have to say that i somewhat enjoyed the campaign with it finally tieing up all the loose ends in the the modern warfare franchise, but overall the game is a let down especially when your forking out 45 quid for it. When it comes to the multiplayer I was shocked by how poor it was, all ive heard from activision and sledgehammer games is how balanced the game has been made and all theI have to say that i somewhat enjoyed the campaign with it finally tieing up all the loose ends in the the modern warfare franchise, but overall the game is a let down especially when your forking out 45 quid for it. When it comes to the multiplayer I was shocked by how poor it was, all ive heard from activision and sledgehammer games is how balanced the game has been made and all the various other refinements that have been and to be honest they have been talking crap. The multiplayer is exactly the same as MW2 and Blackops just with a different coat of paint. It favours the lone wolf and the lone wolf only its a waste of time having team games should just have free for all. The graphics are all the same and there isnt a hint of them trying to improve them and you still end up lagging like a crack head in a coma. What i cant understand is the lack of innovation with this game, a game that earn them hundreds of millions A YEAR and they cant seem to invest a tiny amount of this in improving it. Overall its just another game rushed onto the shelves for the sake of making a bit of money. I cant wait for next November to see what crap treyarch have been working on Expand
  27. Nov 12, 2011
    0
    first time on here for review....but MW3 is probably the worst game made this shouldve been DLC for MW2 how do you copy and paste a previous game and call it new?why did you have to take idea from other games (socom,battlefield) and call yourself making a new game?how do you intergrate your old maps fuse them together and call them new? this game is absolutely terrible and i owned everyfirst time on here for review....but MW3 is probably the worst game made this shouldve been DLC for MW2 how do you copy and paste a previous game and call it new?why did you have to take idea from other games (socom,battlefield) and call yourself making a new game?how do you intergrate your old maps fuse them together and call them new? this game is absolutely terrible and i owned every COD made this game is getting traded in for some playstation points cuz thats all its worth....oh by the way the physics looks like they were made from a 5th grade math teacher way to go Activision. Expand
  28. Nov 12, 2011
    0
    The single player was amazing and I had a great time with it. Then i jumped into the multiplayer and was incredible disappointed. All it is is MW2.5 and with even more problems. Respawning locations are terrible, killsteaks are just awful and just the over all multiplayer game feels poorly thought out. Even though MW2 and its share of problems I at least enjoyed that game from the startThe single player was amazing and I had a great time with it. Then i jumped into the multiplayer and was incredible disappointed. All it is is MW2.5 and with even more problems. Respawning locations are terrible, killsteaks are just awful and just the over all multiplayer game feels poorly thought out. Even though MW2 and its share of problems I at least enjoyed that game from the start and never stopped. I had the game for 2 days then decided to sell it. After Black Ops and this newest installment of the franchise I'm done with the Call of Duty series and is no longer going to purchase their games. Even though I loved the single player campaign I still have to give this game a 0 since the entire game play is based around the multiplayer. Expand
  29. Nov 13, 2011
    0
    Modern warfare 2 is good, but not even killfests compare to the simulation and entertainment I get from battlefield 3.

    Walls and building being destroyed. Rubble and debris everywhere! Tanks and squads assaulting strategic areas a la flag placements.  Being holed up in a building while the enemy is beseiging it with tanks, helicoptors, snipers while your squad works together
    Modern warfare 2 is good, but not even killfests compare to the simulation and entertainment I get from battlefield 3.

    Walls and building being destroyed. Rubble and debris everywhere! Tanks and squads assaulting strategic areas a la flag placements. 
    Being holed up in a building while the enemy is beseiging it with tanks, helicoptors, snipers while your squad works together to heal, supply each other and take out the enemy!

    Oh man...modern warfare 2 does not offer this. It only gives you kill rushes. Thats it. And im sure mw3 does the same. I...cannot accept this over the massive stimulation I get from battlefield 3. I get less kills, but The overall experience is better.

    People who complain about battlefield 3 cuz of the single player campaign, snipers, people hidden in rubble that look like dead bodies are a bunch of **** who bring down a good game. So, what do you want...fking to have men rush you like monsters do in power rangers so you can get your easy kills? 

    I don't give a **** about bf3 single player. Bf3 isnt about singleplayer. Its all about the multiplayer, and all you **** who think ps3 graphics sucks for bf3 are a bunch of ****. Graphics dont always make the game---hence why bf2 from 2005 is still the king over all these games. Bf2 is the true call of duty killer, and I fking hate it every time I see a little bc2 **** with a bc2 dog tag playing bf3. I wish bad company would die a horrible death along with goldeneye-of-warfare 3.
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  30. Nov 13, 2011
    0
    This game is just stupid. I hate it. Don't get it seriously. You idiots that bought it are just supporting Activision. Because all you morons bought it, another copy paste cod game will come out next year... Get a good game like Skyrim or Gears of War or deus ex or Metal Gear Solid HD collection. I did not buy this crappy game because I knew it would suck like every other cod after cod 4.
  31. Nov 13, 2011
    0
    The multiplayer element should have just been packaged into another overpriced DLC for MW2, nothing's new....well except for the fact the nuke doesn't kill everyone in the end.

    The campaign is far too short and really confusing, I still don't have a clue what it was about. I hope MW3 also actually rewards it's loyal fans for buying this game, instead of ripping us off every two months or
    The multiplayer element should have just been packaged into another overpriced DLC for MW2, nothing's new....well except for the fact the nuke doesn't kill everyone in the end.

    The campaign is far too short and really confusing, I still don't have a clue what it was about. I hope MW3 also actually rewards it's loyal fans for buying this game, instead of ripping us off every two months or so for new content.
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  32. Nov 13, 2011
    1
    So I have never played battlefield before and my only cod experiances have been at other peoples houses so I decided to get both and form an opinion from there, and cmon people, mw3 is the same as the other ones, with worse maps even (of course im talking mp because thats where 99% of the time is spent). i actually felt like the older games were more modern than this one (pun intended). ISo I have never played battlefield before and my only cod experiances have been at other peoples houses so I decided to get both and form an opinion from there, and cmon people, mw3 is the same as the other ones, with worse maps even (of course im talking mp because thats where 99% of the time is spent). i actually felt like the older games were more modern than this one (pun intended). I actually feel like ive spent money to buy an inferior game! I would also like to stress again that I was an unbiased gamer going into these launches because I've seen the criticism that most of these reviews are bf3 fanboys, so I'd to distance myself from that comparison. In conclusion, from one unbiased gamer to the next, this game is a waste of time and money as the mp is exactly the same (if not worse) and the sp wont make sense without the other mw games. In other words: DON'T BUY IT! Expand
  33. Nov 13, 2011
    0
    This is a step in the WRONG direction for fps games. It has had the same problem since 2007. Why can't people see that? Are 9 million people that stupid?... Nevermind stupid question.
  34. Nov 14, 2011
    0
    Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3.... Oh dear god, where do I begin. I could probably just sum up this whole game in one sentence. If you played MW2, you played MW3... hell if you have played any CoD, you have played this game; its the same game every year with a few new maps and guns.
  35. Nov 14, 2011
    0
    Same **** different year. Shows how Activision lacks creativity and will continue to pump out awful titles year-after-year until it's massacred beyond all recognition, the Guitar Hero route, and people stop buying it. Outdated graphics, sour mechanics, and an outdated overall design leave the player wanting more as the game lacks meaning and polish. BF3 is great on PC but I can'tSame **** different year. Shows how Activision lacks creativity and will continue to pump out awful titles year-after-year until it's massacred beyond all recognition, the Guitar Hero route, and people stop buying it. Outdated graphics, sour mechanics, and an outdated overall design leave the player wanting more as the game lacks meaning and polish. BF3 is great on PC but I can't comment on the console variations, but I would recommend that over this as teamwork is recommended for online play unlike CoD which is just repetitive run-n-gun. Expand
  36. Nov 21, 2011
    4
    I was a huge Call of Duty fan when the first one came out. Call of Duty 2 was the first game i owned for the xbox 360 and provided many great hours of fun. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is still one of my favorite games ever and when my friends and I LAN together this is still our shooter of choice. Since then the games have gotten not only not innovated but have gotten worse. The lack ofI was a huge Call of Duty fan when the first one came out. Call of Duty 2 was the first game i owned for the xbox 360 and provided many great hours of fun. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is still one of my favorite games ever and when my friends and I LAN together this is still our shooter of choice. Since then the games have gotten not only not innovated but have gotten worse. The lack of dedicated servers is a huge downgrade for this game. All the added perks and care packages and all that turned this amazing shooter into a joke of a game. Yes the game still has tight controls and good enough graphics but the series is headed in the wrong direction very quickly. Expand
  37. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    Same game as last 3 years, I don't know why anybody still buys this awful rehashed crap. Game play is virtually untouched from MW2 and apart from new maps and new guns, there really isn't any innovation, originality or creativity that made COD so popular in the first place.
  38. Nov 17, 2011
    0
    You would think that after so many years of making call of duty games, it should work out of the box. This game is a step backwords. Black ops still the best in my opinion.
  39. Nov 17, 2011
    0
    There is absolutely nothing new about the newest Call of Duty. It is essentially a $60 map pback. No updated graphics and is definitely missing the crotch grabbing enthusiasm of the MW2 story line. Additionally, it has some of the worst multiplayer maps that I've ever seen and as such holds little to no replayability for even the most enthusiastic fps fan.
  40. Nov 17, 2011
    0
    Modern Warfare 3 is just another rushed call of duty game with practically everything re-used. Most likely just compete with Battlefield 3.
    The only people I found to be buying this game is the non-gamers that play once in awhile. Which don't know a good game when they seen one.
    Over-rated. Should of called it MW2.5
  41. Nov 17, 2011
    0
    I have played all the COD games for years. MW3 is terrible!!! Single player mode is very predicable, they did nothing new 4 hrs and your done. Most of all multiplayer was very disappointing. Its like a $60 map pack. I have never played any of the battlefield games but I will give them a try. The only good about this game is the 2012 Jeep 4x4!
  42. Nov 17, 2011
    0
    Exactly the same as MW2. Same BS at a ridiculous price. They'll continue to pump out the same tired game as long as gamers keep shelling out the 60 bucks for it and going insane for "the new MW dude!" Your money is better spent elsewhere. Uninspired, trite, and insipid. I cannot honestly believe that anyone would rank this game above a 4 at best, because it is simply no different from itsExactly the same as MW2. Same BS at a ridiculous price. They'll continue to pump out the same tired game as long as gamers keep shelling out the 60 bucks for it and going insane for "the new MW dude!" Your money is better spent elsewhere. Uninspired, trite, and insipid. I cannot honestly believe that anyone would rank this game above a 4 at best, because it is simply no different from its predecessors - the graphics look like they came from the early 2000's and the multi player has no great innovations over MW2. If you want a COD game, stay with Black Ops because this **** is garbage. Expand
  43. Nov 19, 2011
    1
    They literally LITERALLY did not change a thing from MW2. Same weapons. Same streaks. Same perks. Same graphics (not even joking) Same **** cluttered maps with random fire on the streets. Autoaim is SO strong even on multiplayer that you can aim 10 inches away from someone and it'll still hit them. Same audio down to the rank up music. Even the same **** tags and loading screens. THE SAME.They literally LITERALLY did not change a thing from MW2. Same weapons. Same streaks. Same perks. Same graphics (not even joking) Same **** cluttered maps with random fire on the streets. Autoaim is SO strong even on multiplayer that you can aim 10 inches away from someone and it'll still hit them. Same audio down to the rank up music. Even the same **** tags and loading screens. THE SAME. ****. LOADING SCREENS. Blackops wasn't this **** rehashed even. It is seriously just MW2 with a new story, and honestly did you even play for the story? Expand
  44. Nov 20, 2011
    0
    If you don't put in the effort to do anything but repackage the previous game (or in this case the previous 3 or 4 games) then you get a zero for effort. This is a 45-60$ map pack.
  45. Nov 20, 2011
    0
    I've told myself many times, no game deserves zero. I've played video games since I was an infant, and since being an infant, I've seen the gaming industry go through a revolution. The gaming industry moves faster than in terms of innovation, than any other medium in the WORLD.

    To me, that is amazing. So I'll begin, with saying I did not have to pay money for this game, I borrowed it
    I've told myself many times, no game deserves zero. I've played video games since I was an infant, and since being an infant, I've seen the gaming industry go through a revolution. The gaming industry moves faster than in terms of innovation, than any other medium in the WORLD.

    To me, that is amazing.

    So I'll begin, with saying I did not have to pay money for this game, I borrowed it from a friend, so its not like I'am upset that I got ripped off.

    There has only been one game series that I've ever seen before, that completely screwed up every game in their series after the first one. And that game is Halo. Halo one is great game, for us PC fanboys (I used to be) it'll always have a place in our hearts. Then Halo 2 came out, I grabbed that game opening day, and never once in my entire life have I ever been so disappointed by a inanimate object.


    But you know what the difference between Halo, and Call of Duty is?

    Bungie (the company behind Halo) actually tried.

    Bungie actually tried to make a game that would CRUSH, their previous one. And you can see it in every aspect, even if you hate halo 2 and every one after it like I do, you can't help but appreciate the technology they've created, and what they've done.

    We are getting to a point now, where third party gaming companies (those games the mainstream doesn't buy) after innovating more than Activision. And yes, I know Bungie is a developer, and Activision is a producer. But the difference, is that Bungie's producer tells them "Make a great game", Activision tells their developers "It releases next november".

    So you can't help but assume the game it already going to be terrible. But no matter I gave it a chance.
    I myself am I fan of multiplayer, I hate single player everything, so for the benefit of the score of this game, I will not rate the single player. In my opinion, if you are buying this game for the single player, you need psychological help.

    Anyways, lets take a look.
    MAPS:
    Okay, so in standard call of duty fashion, excluding Call of Duty 4 all the maps are designed in a "circle" fashion. Which means that all the players are basically running around the map in a circle all the time.

    What does this mean for gameplay? It means that no matter what your style is, you will get shot in the back, all the time. Not only that, but the cover is completely useless being that the guns do not have any recoil. Even if you can't be seen by your enemy, they can easily shoot you through a wall.

    Not only that, but I don't know if this has been a common problem. But probably one of my biggest pet peeves in a game, is giving me the option of spawning into the game, I press that button, and guess what happens? I die.

    Its extremely easy to figure out the spawns, and sit in a position where you can spawn kill all match.

    Thats called poor design, and the only difference between this game and Call of duty 4, is some guns have recoil in cod4, and some of the maps are designed so you aren't continuously shot in the back (though not all).

    GAMEPLAY:
    Oh god, can we skip this one? NO?!

    Basically here is what makes Call of duty so addictive, here is why people buy it, and if you like the sound of this, YOU SHOULD BUY THIS GAME. Not rent, you should buy. You will love it I promise.

    Best feature about call of duty (in my opinion) is turning on your system of choice, and getting into a game as fast as your system turned on.

    But as soon as I notice this great feature, I just as quickly realize my most hated part of a call of duty game.
    The gameplay.

    Its designed, the sprinting, the movement, the recoil on the weapons, the attachment for the weapons, how much it takes for you to die; this is all designed you make you feel like you are the in game version of Jesus Christ.

    Let me explain;

    Now lets say, you are absolutely TERRIBLE at first person shooters, call of duty is a perfect first stop IF you know nothing about video games, and what it means to put care into a game. You will do GREAT in call of duty, you will be SO proud of yourself, want to know why?

    Because of the poor map design, followed by all those things above, you will no matter what enter a scenario, where you will slaughter your enemies, in what way exactly I have no idea. But you will do so well for just a brief 10 seconds, and that for most people is reward enough.

    SOUND: **** just **** sorry. They have so much money they can afford the biggest names to make an INSANE soundtrack. Not only that, in not one single call of duty game in the history of call of duty have they ever used real gun sounds for all the guns. Meaning you have an MP5k, that actually makes the sound of an FN P90. Which for most, who cares? But for gun dorks like me, its a big deal. GRAPHICS: Call of duty 4? HOW OLD IS THAT GAME, WHY USE THE SAME ENGINE?! INNOVATION: I made this last category as a punchline for my Review.
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  46. Nov 20, 2011
    0
    It sucks, nuf said. Its just a copy of every other shooter out there. I can't believe Activision is making billions of dollars of of this, it just isn't fair to good games.
  47. Nov 20, 2011
    0
    Ill keep it simple, Same old same old. I actually am going back to playing the old MW games cause the levels are better, I mean really? It seems like they just threw a bunch of old map designs they had lying around......ugh no comment Giving it a 0 for 0 effort to make something new!
  48. Nov 20, 2011
    0
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  49. Nov 20, 2011
    0
    copy and past game same every year, feels exactly the same as playing black ops. the game takes no skill and they use many of the same animations and sounds over and over again. literary gets boring after playing two matches online. if you actually find this game fun and play it for hours on end you must literally have **** for brains, the worst most over-hyped game ever made don't evercopy and past game same every year, feels exactly the same as playing black ops. the game takes no skill and they use many of the same animations and sounds over and over again. literary gets boring after playing two matches online. if you actually find this game fun and play it for hours on end you must literally have **** for brains, the worst most over-hyped game ever made don't ever waste money on this. Expand
  50. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    i'm rating this game a 0 because i think it's hilarious that people actually care about user ratings. who cares what users have to say? just look at the sales numbers and unless u go to a community college, u can figure out that people love this game. critics still rave about this game. and quite simply, cod is the best fps franchise out there right now. it's hard to innovate every yeari'm rating this game a 0 because i think it's hilarious that people actually care about user ratings. who cares what users have to say? just look at the sales numbers and unless u go to a community college, u can figure out that people love this game. critics still rave about this game. and quite simply, cod is the best fps franchise out there right now. it's hard to innovate every year when cod4 set the bar extremely high in 07 Expand
  51. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    To be honest I expected more form this sequel. I personally feel let down, there could have been a better campaign. The campaign had to many over the top actions sequence that left a bad taste. Multiplayer could have been so much better. I feel as if this game was more of a content dump then a true sequel. Don't get me wrong survival is really nice addition to the game. Have that said oneTo be honest I expected more form this sequel. I personally feel let down, there could have been a better campaign. The campaign had to many over the top actions sequence that left a bad taste. Multiplayer could have been so much better. I feel as if this game was more of a content dump then a true sequel. Don't get me wrong survival is really nice addition to the game. Have that said one game mode can't save this game from being bad. The multiplayer in this game is getting stale. I feel at this point they rushed the product out before making big changes/fixes. I guess Activision know if they put the name "call of duty" on any of there products people will buy. Expand
  52. Nov 21, 2011
    1
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  53. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    This is not a new game, its almost identical to MW2, just different maps, and couple extra weapons and killstreaks! They didnt fix any of the issues that MW2 had! No kick vote, player/lobby matching is so bad still, spawns are ridiculous! and full of bugs
  54. Nov 21, 2011
    1
    Now, let me start off by saying I don't personally own this game. 'How can you write a review then, if you don't own it?!' Well I have played it for multiple hours on a close friends system, so my knowledge of the game is there. However, the reason I did not purchase this game was because unlike all the other saps who got suckered into the hype of this being another 'Call of Duty' game, INow, let me start off by saying I don't personally own this game. 'How can you write a review then, if you don't own it?!' Well I have played it for multiple hours on a close friends system, so my knowledge of the game is there. However, the reason I did not purchase this game was because unlike all the other saps who got suckered into the hype of this being another 'Call of Duty' game, I realized after playing MW2 and Black Ops that the games never change. EVERY SINGLE MW game is nearly and exact replica of its predecessor. Same mediocre campaign, same multi-player with a crappy HUD, and same poor excuse for a 'Spec Ops' mode. It almost pains me to know how many people got suckered into buying this, but then again, not everyone is as smart as me I suppose. On a more serious note, the Call of Duty twitter page tweeted a couple days ago saying "#MW3 is the most played game on Xbox Live right now, and 3 of the other top 20 played games are in the Call of Duty franchise." Really? Really? Ouch, cut me deep COD, cut me deep. As many times as I have asked my friend to return COD for a better game or at least his money back, he refuses to do so. It is this type of fan base that will keep the COD games alive unfortunately. Here's to a lifetime of the same game over and over again! Expand
  55. Nov 21, 2011
    3
    COD 4 was a good game. It had every aspect for a good few years. The problem with the sequels is that there is not much to update or add. MW2 was good as well but i though that the game play was getting repetitive. Its basically COD 4 with new guns and a new campaign. At this point infinity ward is having a 4 year hangover thinking that as long as it has the Modern Warfare name, it willCOD 4 was a good game. It had every aspect for a good few years. The problem with the sequels is that there is not much to update or add. MW2 was good as well but i though that the game play was getting repetitive. Its basically COD 4 with new guns and a new campaign. At this point infinity ward is having a 4 year hangover thinking that as long as it has the Modern Warfare name, it will sell. I am not the only one thinking about leaving COD for Halo or Battlefield. The campaign was disappointing because it was highly predictable. The multiplayer has become boring. Plus since there was a minimum change in mechanics, the best players are still the best and there is no chance for new players to play and enjoy it. There is absolutely no reason to pick up this game or the next to come if it will be the same year after year. Expand
  56. Nov 21, 2011
    3
    Shouldn't this be MW2.1?

    The critics are obviously a bunch of idiots that got paid to review the game highly. The campaign was disappointing, i can't even remember any of the missions, none stand out. The multiplayer brings back the problems of MW2 like quick scoping, bad spawning and sniping across the map with a pistol. It doesn't help that the maps are the size of a cubical but have
    Shouldn't this be MW2.1?

    The critics are obviously a bunch of idiots that got paid to review the game highly. The campaign was disappointing, i can't even remember any of the missions, none stand out. The multiplayer brings back the problems of MW2 like quick scoping, bad spawning and sniping across the map with a pistol. It doesn't help that the maps are the size of a cubical but have 2 or 3 levels to hit your form across the map.

    Black ops is a far superior game than 2 or 3. I am trying my hardest to say that i like this game but i think i am in denial.
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  57. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    If you take a game from 5 years ago and release it today, it will not hold up to today's standards. MW3 is exactly that. It is another version of COD4 but in my opinion worse, because the few things in COD4 that made it seem fresh and unique no longer have that feeling. Also, the creative and memorable and original maps from COD4 have now been replaced with bland forgettable maps that seemIf you take a game from 5 years ago and release it today, it will not hold up to today's standards. MW3 is exactly that. It is another version of COD4 but in my opinion worse, because the few things in COD4 that made it seem fresh and unique no longer have that feeling. Also, the creative and memorable and original maps from COD4 have now been replaced with bland forgettable maps that seem like the developers made as a chore. "Oh lets just change the maps so we can call it a new game, and change as little else as possible." EXACT same menus. EXACT same interface. EXACT same leveling. The list of improvements or even changes is much much shorter than the list of things that are exactly the same. COD is not a sports franchise! You cannot release the same game every year and expect people to like it. I feel like I wasted my money and have no faith in these developers anymore. And yes, zero is a fair score because that is how much effort the developers put into this game. Zero. Expand
  58. Nov 21, 2011
    2
    The only good thing about this game is its campaign and even that has pointless scenes in it that have no purpose in the plot of the campaign as a whole, the multiplayer is just a copy over from MW2 but everytings been made a lot shinier. they knew they couldnt release another Game without adding something a little different so they added Team defender and Kill confirmed which for a twoThe only good thing about this game is its campaign and even that has pointless scenes in it that have no purpose in the plot of the campaign as a whole, the multiplayer is just a copy over from MW2 but everytings been made a lot shinier. they knew they couldnt release another Game without adding something a little different so they added Team defender and Kill confirmed which for a two year development cycle goes to show how much they know this game will sell no matter what they do. In 2 years we have a mid length campaign and 2 new games modes which dont require very much skill in thinking up, this game has just gone down hill from MW, greed has killed the franchise. but is you like the Modern warfare campaign then be sure to pick the game up it still is a decent campaign but is it really worth £45 i dont think so. Expand
  59. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    Its time that Call of Duty does a complete revamp of there system. Not having party chat in all available games modes online or even 4-player co-op on survival mode and even spec ops mode is completely
    unacceptable at this point in the game. Every year gamers are treated to a new release of the franchise with limited changes and upgrades to the game. Although i do enjoy playing the game
    Its time that Call of Duty does a complete revamp of there system. Not having party chat in all available games modes online or even 4-player co-op on survival mode and even spec ops mode is completely
    unacceptable at this point in the game. Every year gamers are treated to a new release of the franchise with limited changes and upgrades to the game. Although i do enjoy playing the game for a week or 2 it quickly loses its pizzaz. Im hoping that Activision can invest some of its billions of dollars into changing the future of the game for the best.
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  60. Nov 21, 2011
    0
    Game is no different from modern warfare 2, seriously this is an expansion pack DLC. Very stupid of activision to use some of the same buildings, items etc. As mw2.

    I gave up on cod after the fourth one, was always a Halo and BF fan anyways.
  61. Nov 21, 2011
    1
    There is a lot of hype surrounding this release however for the first time since COD4 I didn't buy into it. Rather than purchase this I picked up a friends copy with a plan to complete the campaign over the weekend and have a few goes on Multiplayer. I'm glad I didn't spend £40 on this.. Campaign is dull (to the point I didn't even bother to complete it) Multiplayer had someThere is a lot of hype surrounding this release however for the first time since COD4 I didn't buy into it. Rather than purchase this I picked up a friends copy with a plan to complete the campaign over the weekend and have a few goes on Multiplayer. I'm glad I didn't spend £40 on this.. Campaign is dull (to the point I didn't even bother to complete it) Multiplayer had some of the worst maps I have played in any FPS.. I thought they made a big deal about how they were trying to remove campers etc from the game.. so they made each map like a maze and provided plenty of dark places to lie on the floor and wait for passing trade.

    Compared to some other titles which have just come out this is a weak, poor game. Cashes in on previous success.
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  62. Nov 22, 2011
    0
    Congrats on screwing over fans.
    These games have just been CODMW1 rehashes ever since.
    Still using the same 1999 Quake 3 engine with just modifications.
    Time to move on. Remake the game, get a real engine.
    They all play the same, look the same. Everything about every COD now are the same. Sadly the only good ones were COD:2 MW1.
  63. Dec 10, 2011
    0
    I had the misfortune of playing this at my friends house, and I didn't think it was possible to make a game worse than Modern Warfare 2; Infinity Ward proved me wrong. To start, the campaign is lackluster as usual, with no real plot of depth. just a bunch of flashy explosions and a maybe a chase scene or two. The characters are 2D, with no real personality or anything to make themeI had the misfortune of playing this at my friends house, and I didn't think it was possible to make a game worse than Modern Warfare 2; Infinity Ward proved me wrong. To start, the campaign is lackluster as usual, with no real plot of depth. just a bunch of flashy explosions and a maybe a chase scene or two. The characters are 2D, with no real personality or anything to make theme memorable or likable. The plot is predictable, boring, and awful as a whole. I predicted everything that would happen, such as Soap dying and Makarov dying, so there are no real plot twists or anything to keep you interested in playing. The Multiplayer itself is a train wreck. It's like they took Modern Warfare 2's horrendous multiplayer, and combined it with the worst aspects of Black Ops' multiplayer, Poor hit detection registry, unbalanced guns, poorly designed maps, quickscoping being supported, and to top of this bullsh*t sundae, a spawning system so bad it puts Modern Warfare 2's spawn system to shame. You can LITERALLY spawn right next to an enemy, walk two steps and die immediately ( this happened to me three times in a row. No **** the weapon leveling system is frustrating, and you don't have the same degree of customization that Black Ops' had. The new survival mode is simply an attempt to emulate Halo's firefight, or Gears or War's horde mode, and got boring almost immediately. It's indescribably easy, and nothing really interesting about it.

    It also goes without saying that the graphics are outdated, and the sounds are awful. All in all, stay as FAR away from this travesty of a game as possible.
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  64. Nov 27, 2011
    4
    MW3 is a great game! As was MW2 before. And before that, MW1. There are some tweaks and changes, but basically it's the same game all over and over again. So unless you're into the short single player campaign, there's no reason to pick this one up if you own any of the previous in the series.
  65. Nov 29, 2011
    2
    People are comparing MW3 to MW2, and they are wrong. It is actually closer to Black Ops, but with modern weapons and kill streaks. The story mode has stunning graphics and was awesome, yet short. The whole issue lies in the multi-player aspect. Which is, let's face it, the reason why most people play the Modern Warfare series. The maps were made to help eliminate "camping". Which itPeople are comparing MW3 to MW2, and they are wrong. It is actually closer to Black Ops, but with modern weapons and kill streaks. The story mode has stunning graphics and was awesome, yet short. The whole issue lies in the multi-player aspect. Which is, let's face it, the reason why most people play the Modern Warfare series. The maps were made to help eliminate "camping". Which it actually didn't. It made it SO much worse.
    I stopped playing Black Ops for same three reasons I have dissappointingly found now in MW3: One, the graphics were subpar to Modern Warfare 2. I realize the setting was of course during the "Cold War"- Vietnam Era. But when you've playing MW 2, Black Ops is really second rate. Two, the non-stop camping. The maps created an environment completely tailor made for people to hide behind barrels and crates, hide in corners, lay on the ground down hallways; things that are truly irritating to people who can actually shoot. Two- thirds of every kill cam I observe is someone hiding behind something, already aiming down sight, and waiting for someone to run by unsuspectedly. Things of this nature rarely occured in MW2 because the maps were wider open, and with less obstacles to hide behind, making the game much more enjoyable for EVERYONE. The maps on MW3 completely represent the same exact problem in Black Ops. So whomever designed these maps with LESS camping in mind, COMPLETELY dropped the ball and obviously doesn't play the game enough to know what "camping" is. And third, the internal problems that are NEVER really addressed; hacking and glitching. I have spawned in front of 3 of the opposing team. I have had 3 of the opposing team spawn in front of me. WTH?! I have knifed someone who has disppeared, and actually knifed me from behind. ??? I have emptied a magazine into someone and not get a hit marker, but knifed them after the fact and kill them. WOW. And now, there are already people with " L2+R2+L2+R2" clan tags, already modding the game? WOW. Really? So overall, the series is no longer fun for me. I waited a year to play a newer version of Black Ops, when I could have purchased Battlefield 3 and tried EA's series out. I do not see Infinity Ward's work in MW3 at all. It looks as if Activision just purchased their logo to put on the game. I will defintely not anticipate any other installment of thr COD series, and be VERY cautious of my next purchase. I read that COD game designers are concerned at their poor reviews and are blaming competitors dilluting the actual opinion. Here is a message for Activision: I am not working for your competitior. Your game is almost unplayable in multi-player (ask anyone about the campfest you've created) and glitches mercilessly. Listen to your fans and stop making excuses on your poor ratings. Your game blows.
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  66. Dec 11, 2011
    0
    THisis the worst game I've ever played. Call of Duty stopped being fun after the fourth. I also love how they've never tried to improve their old, crusty engine that does not preform up to the specs of any game in this catagory.
  67. Nov 30, 2011
    0
    Es una perdida de tiempo este juego, no ha mejorado nada respecto a las versiones anteriores, graficos mediocres sonido de armas genericos muy pobres y sin servidores dedicados en consolas, teniendo la comunidad de usuarios que tiene este juego en consolas y que a un no decidan poner servidores dedicados me parece una falta de respeto a los fan de este juego ya que solo les importa venderEs una perdida de tiempo este juego, no ha mejorado nada respecto a las versiones anteriores, graficos mediocres sonido de armas genericos muy pobres y sin servidores dedicados en consolas, teniendo la comunidad de usuarios que tiene este juego en consolas y que a un no decidan poner servidores dedicados me parece una falta de respeto a los fan de este juego ya que solo les importa vender y vender y no les importa nada su comunidad, este juego mas que mw3 es mw2.5. Expand
  68. Nov 30, 2011
    0
    not enough health completly ruins mutiplyer and makes it a game of who saw each other first. dont buy, buy cod 4 for a decent cod, its not a complete remake of the others but is still disapinting enough
  69. Dec 4, 2011
    0
    Well damn! Looking at the score, I don't think many will disagree with me that IW are a bunch of money grubbers. They made a giant dlc for mw2 with recycle weapons, and boring levels. they don't stop there, oh no! They made CoD Elite, said to enhance your experience, and slapped a price of $50 on it!!! WTF?! I can't believe that! People were even dumb enough to buy it! Bottom line: IWWell damn! Looking at the score, I don't think many will disagree with me that IW are a bunch of money grubbers. They made a giant dlc for mw2 with recycle weapons, and boring levels. they don't stop there, oh no! They made CoD Elite, said to enhance your experience, and slapped a price of $50 on it!!! WTF?! I can't believe that! People were even dumb enough to buy it! Bottom line: IW suck, they're money hogs, and anyone who buys this crap is a stupid consumer! I think we know who won the BF v CoD war. Battlefield. Don't believe me? There is proof all over the Internet! Disliking this comment means you were one of those stupid consumers, because all this information is legit and proven. Expand
  70. Dec 4, 2011
    0
    After preordering and seeing all the stuff that was added I really thought this was going to be an amazing game. Boy was I wrong. The campaign might be alright haven't played it. But I didn't buy this game for campaign I bought it for multiplayer and it is ONE OF THE WORST EXPERIENCES of my LIFE. There are no layers to the maps making them quite boring and all too similar. But that isn'tAfter preordering and seeing all the stuff that was added I really thought this was going to be an amazing game. Boy was I wrong. The campaign might be alright haven't played it. But I didn't buy this game for campaign I bought it for multiplayer and it is ONE OF THE WORST EXPERIENCES of my LIFE. There are no layers to the maps making them quite boring and all too similar. But that isn't even the worst of it what makes this game such a flaming pile of **** is the servers giving host unfair advantages and the HORRIBLE spawn system that they told us they were working on from MW2 and Black Ops but instead went backwards. Save yourself the money and frustration and pass on this PILE OF FLAMING **** Unless they fix the server and spawn issues I will never play this game again. Expand
  71. Dec 5, 2011
    0
    First off: This game isn't that bad! I gave it a zero because i think the SP is way to short and I would like to see this trend of half-assed SP experiences change...
  72. Dec 5, 2011
    0
    same game ,why would i pay again for mw2 ? disapointed.....i know that fan boys just don't care , but i want the game to get better , i don't want to get the same old thing every time i buy it , and plus they are even recycling building from the older games, guys come on ......
  73. Dec 5, 2011
    3
    All this game is is a map pack for Modern Warfare 2. The gameplay is identical to every other Call of Duty since World at War, the interface is identical to Modern Warfare 2 and the Multiplayer is awful. It is totally broken and imbalanced, even though it is a FPS most of your kills won't come from shooting people, just throwing your killstreaks at them. The maps themselves are brown andAll this game is is a map pack for Modern Warfare 2. The gameplay is identical to every other Call of Duty since World at War, the interface is identical to Modern Warfare 2 and the Multiplayer is awful. It is totally broken and imbalanced, even though it is a FPS most of your kills won't come from shooting people, just throwing your killstreaks at them. The maps themselves are brown and boring as usual, I got no joy from playing any of the maps. The weapon level system is an appalling idea, as you may want a certain attachment straight away but it'll take you 12 levels to reach, even though it's almost identical to the one you got at level 2. The campaign leaves a bad taste in my mouth; it might as well be on rails. Every action you take is rigidly fixed by what the game has decided, and if you do anything different you lose the mission. The story is basic and feels like it was imagined by a 12 year old. The only redeeming feature is Special Ops, where there are some genuinely enjoyable missions. The Survival mode is just a better version of the **** Zombies mode from Black Ops, but that isn't to say it isn't fun. Battlefield 3 is much better than this crap, don't even think ONCE about getting this. Expand
  74. Dec 5, 2011
    2
    First off: to be fair, the game standing alone is undeserving of a two out of 10 review. The graphics and frame rate and story I imagine are worth at least a five or six out of 10.

    The reason why the users (including myself) are giving the game such a low score is because this game is just another ploy at cashing in on the CoD franchise. There is so little innovation in the game that you
    First off: to be fair, the game standing alone is undeserving of a two out of 10 review. The graphics and frame rate and story I imagine are worth at least a five or six out of 10.

    The reason why the users (including myself) are giving the game such a low score is because this game is just another ploy at cashing in on the CoD franchise. There is so little innovation in the game that you would have to be a fool to think otherwise.

    I should have simply kept Modern Warfare 2 (I would have if the game wouldn't have been so broken and made me so angry that I decided to trade it in [did I tell you yet that all of the same problems from Mw2 are in MW3???]. I could have had the SAME EXACT experience with it or Black Ops without spending another 60 dollars (not counting the elite pack, and the new DLC which is sure to follow...and weren't they talking about charging players a monthly fee? lol yeah good luck with that now infinity ward).

    This game (along with a few other recent games released for the 360) has actually done me a favor: other than losing the initial money paid for buying these re-hashed cash cows, these games have convinced me that buying these games at full price is the easiest way for me to waste my money in these current tough times. I'm NEVER buying a game at initial release ever again. I should have already learned my lesson from some of the other big name games released lately that re-hashed the same product with a new name and new plastic enveloping the case.

    Peer-to-peer connection is absolutely revolting, particularly in a First-Person-Shooter (FPS) leaving someone with a disadvantage in 99% of the games in which I play. FPS were never designed to be played with such considerable amounts of lag. Someone will kill you, and while in your character's eyes you emptied 10 rounds into the enemy, in their eyes you didn't even fire a shot....

    ..simply unacceptable.

    There is simply too little innovation in the game to warrant it being a new release. This may have been a financial success for the creators but I can assure you that they will not be as lucky next time (probably a year from now hah) around. I don't know what all of these reviews will do for the popularity of the franchise, but I can promise you that players will not be quite as apt to rush out and buy the next piece of half-developed product. I know that I won't.
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  75. Dec 5, 2011
    0
    This game is terrible! first of all the graphics are the exact same as MW2. the creators of the game were extremely lazy. the building structures are the same as COD 4. and as for the gameplay on multiplayer it is the worst ever. i have never seen so many campers in my life. you can literally run around the map every game to be killed by someone sitting in a corner with a heartbeat sensor.This game is terrible! first of all the graphics are the exact same as MW2. the creators of the game were extremely lazy. the building structures are the same as COD 4. and as for the gameplay on multiplayer it is the worst ever. i have never seen so many campers in my life. you can literally run around the map every game to be killed by someone sitting in a corner with a heartbeat sensor. my recommendation would be to drop the heartbeat sensor, noob tubes, and riot shield. get rid of all the maps because they are trash and only run on dlc's. also the killstreaks are way to over powered. they need to drop support because you could do really good in a match and it takes absolutely no skill. This is the worst cod game i have ever played do not waste your money on this game. The creators were very lazy and they should not be rewarded for that! Expand
  76. Dec 6, 2011
    3
    Campaign was good, but the multiplayer is disappointing. It doesn't have anything new that will keep me playing this game thought. Some things in multiplayer are fixed, but it is too late now. Many people are already bored playing cod, and i don't understand why someone would still play it. But anyway, this is a decent arcade shooter that fits for everyone.
  77. Dec 6, 2011
    1
    same **** nuff said. llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
  78. Dec 6, 2011
    3
    Modern Warfare 3 seems to be DLC from Modern Warfare 2. Short and boring campaign. Multiplayer = Campers. Antique graphics. Generic sound. I got prestige 10 th. in Modern Warfare 2 but this game is most disappointing one. Modern Warfare 3 is so boring if you played Modern Warfare 2 a lot.
  79. Dec 7, 2011
    0
    Ok once again we have another COD release from the annual November shooter which aside from the gameplay has become akin to any annual sports title release now COD has more in common with a sports title then it's FPS roots would have you believe.

    Let's go back a few years COD4 an amazing game almost bug free great hit detection for it's time and maps that were well thought out the game
    Ok once again we have another COD release from the annual November shooter which aside from the gameplay has become akin to any annual sports title release now COD has more in common with a sports title then it's FPS roots would have you believe.

    Let's go back a few years COD4 an amazing game almost bug free great hit detection for it's time and maps that were well thought out the game looked and sounded amazing at the time and was relatively balanced. Now fast forward to MW3 since COD4 we have had many releases under the COD name each not surpassing COD4 in fact popular opinion each worse then the next now we have a dated game looks old has the same hit detection as COD4 except now that's full of bugs the maps are like new badly designed skins the weapons feel terrible and I had better SFX on my old OG gameboy!

    IF as we all know is basically on it's last legs and so is COD as a series
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  80. Dec 7, 2011
    3
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. I gave it about a month before I wrote a review, and sadly, I'm disappointed. The current set of maps limit the ability to hide and snipe as you were able to in previous games. Lines of sight are limited by buildings, and there aren't many great places to blend into the scenery with a ghillie suit. This forces players to play a more mobile game, favoring spraying bullets over accuracy and patience. For single player, the story was different than what I would have told, but still plays out as an ok action-movie type plot, with nothing particularly special. *SPOILER* The family scene in London offers no emotional gravity. You can see the end coming as soon as the scene starts, and the player is removed from the situation rather than actively involved as in No Russian.

    Finally, I use Call of Duty Elite as much as I would use Horse Armor from Oblivion. Except that Horse Armor accurately appeared on the horse whereas Elite incorrectly tracks stats, attributing kills from weapons I've never picked up and miscalculating accuracy on my primary weapons. My disappointment is compounded by the so-called "prizes" offered for the competitions available. Digital Badges aren't prizes, they're unlockables. I paid extra for the chance to win something cool and unique, and instead I essentially get an Achievement.

    Hopefully the map-packs will encourage a variety of play-styles, and hopefully Elite will become better utilized.
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  81. Dec 8, 2011
    1
    where's the new? activision again releases next cod to count the many form it, it is the most important thing for them; I won't buy this game cause I prefer cs (multi) and longer campaign time, it's ridiculous you can through it in about 5 hours, screw this ****
  82. Dec 9, 2011
    2
    Being a huge Call of Duty fan since the start I preorded this game immediately upon hearing its release. The first weeks of game play was fun and entertaining my only complaint being the small maps and cover-points everywhere which did not change how I felt about it. Noticing i was consistently running 3 bars in every lobby I made the decision to upgrade my internet to further enjoy myBeing a huge Call of Duty fan since the start I preorded this game immediately upon hearing its release. The first weeks of game play was fun and entertaining my only complaint being the small maps and cover-points everywhere which did not change how I felt about it. Noticing i was consistently running 3 bars in every lobby I made the decision to upgrade my internet to further enjoy my gaming experience...big mistake. I don't fully understand the lag compensation deal but I consider myself a above-average player and find myself losing run and gun confrontations by milliseconds to most players forcing me to camp. Kill-streaks are damn near impossible under these conditions and getting rocked in most lobbies barely breaking even kinda sucks, I recently bought Battlefield 3 and have experienced no issues connection wise (vehicles suck but a point needs to be made). If they don't release an update fixing this lag comp bull soon I'm not sure if I will bother playing it again after investing in most of their releases, buying elite, all previous map packs, and upgrading my internet. Expand
  83. Dec 11, 2011
    1
    Having been a long term Call of Duty fan I found MW3 a total disappointmen.After all the promises the developers made about listening to the fans and fixing what the fans said was wrong with previous games,I thought that if they had listened and corrected the issues with previous games this one would have been absolutely awesome.Unfortunately the Developers did not live up to theirHaving been a long term Call of Duty fan I found MW3 a total disappointmen.After all the promises the developers made about listening to the fans and fixing what the fans said was wrong with previous games,I thought that if they had listened and corrected the issues with previous games this one would have been absolutely awesome.Unfortunately the Developers did not live up to their promises.Oh sure they have introduced a few nice changes such as weapon upgrades and the new kill streak rewards system.But what about the things that really annoyed gamers,such as constant Host Migrations and server time outs?And the always present Lag that we experience in about 75% of games.And the Most annoying of all is the non-existing hit detection.I am very frustrated at going head to head with other gamers and losing after putting half a clip of ammunition in his head and he opens fire and shoots me once in the foot and I drop dead.I think the developers need to work on the real issues for the next game,I would be happy to wait a couple of years for the next installment rather than get another sub-standard game each year.Come on Activision give us what we really want....The best ever Call of Duty game with all real issues fixed. Expand
  84. Dec 11, 2011
    0
    Still the same broken, rehashed mess as MW2 and Black Ops, with minute changes that don't justify calling this game a full-fledged sequel. It's amazing how a developer can release a sequel with graphics that are horribly outdated(7-year old engine), a few minor tweaks and few new guns and stick a "3" on it. Considering how many copies of this series is sold, these games should have HUGEStill the same broken, rehashed mess as MW2 and Black Ops, with minute changes that don't justify calling this game a full-fledged sequel. It's amazing how a developer can release a sequel with graphics that are horribly outdated(7-year old engine), a few minor tweaks and few new guns and stick a "3" on it. Considering how many copies of this series is sold, these games should have HUGE budgets, so its inexcusable and insulting that NOTHING has changed. Here's how the development of Call Of Duty games work: 1.CTRL-C, then CTRL V.
    2.Place the number that comes next in the title.
    3????
    4.PROFIT!
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  85. Dec 12, 2011
    0
    you would have a better time masturbating to a horse violate a human than play this. simple as that. i bought it and traded it in 2 days later. it is THAT bad. good job activision! i had SO much fun trading this in.
  86. Dec 12, 2011
    0
    I've played cod 4 and black ops (my favorite) so i though what the hell i'll play my friends copy (since i bought skyrim and bf3) I played the multiplayer... you have to level up your weapons? really? so i turn a corner i get quick scoped my first death... wow.. i was alive 3 seconds... so then i spawn with a shotgun I shoot a guy 4-5 times and he insta kills me with his super bb gun...I've played cod 4 and black ops (my favorite) so i though what the hell i'll play my friends copy (since i bought skyrim and bf3) I played the multiplayer... you have to level up your weapons? really? so i turn a corner i get quick scoped my first death... wow.. i was alive 3 seconds... so then i spawn with a shotgun I shoot a guy 4-5 times and he insta kills me with his super bb gun... im going back to skyrim :) and bf3... and if i feel like cod i go back to black ops zombie nazis ftw... Expand
  87. Dec 21, 2011
    3
    The story mode is the same old same old. If you buy for that then I would rate it an 8. Multiplayer plays very much like black ops which did NOT play like MW2 or MW for that matter. You will struggle with net latency issues as you watch yourself die in kill cams where what you did was not what it shows. The new weapons are cool and all but once you prestige 1 time the game is very ho-hum.The story mode is the same old same old. If you buy for that then I would rate it an 8. Multiplayer plays very much like black ops which did NOT play like MW2 or MW for that matter. You will struggle with net latency issues as you watch yourself die in kill cams where what you did was not what it shows. The new weapons are cool and all but once you prestige 1 time the game is very ho-hum. You basically have to pick a couple weapons and use them the entire time if you would like to max them out. Respawning drops you into a lot of situations where you get spawn killed. Also the usual "drop you into a match where you are on the losing team and the other team needs 2 kills to win" scenario is still very common. If COD games send your blood pressure through the roof maybe pass on this one or get you doctor to give you some xanax. I rate i low because I will probably sell it in the next few days. Maybe activision should have kept Infinity Ward in tact. Expand
  88. Dec 22, 2011
    4
    The problem with Modern Warfare 3, is that it's essentially Modern Warfare 2.5. No one wants to wait a year, pay full retail price, only to be given a game that's near enough no different to its predecessor. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing the games, but the franchise has become a little too generic - and yet people will still buy into the vast amount of advertising spent on thisThe problem with Modern Warfare 3, is that it's essentially Modern Warfare 2.5. No one wants to wait a year, pay full retail price, only to be given a game that's near enough no different to its predecessor. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing the games, but the franchise has become a little too generic - and yet people will still buy into the vast amount of advertising spent on this game. Save your money, wait for something original. Expand
  89. Dec 28, 2011
    0
    I have played the CoD games since CoD 2. If I had to say the most disappointing game in the CoD series, it would be this game. When I first got it off Amazon for $59.98 (yes lol I saved one cent), I was a bit skeptical. Before I got it, I saw MW3 gameplay and many gamers said "This game looks like MW2 or CoD 4". However, Assassins Creed Revelations looks like the previous games but it isI have played the CoD games since CoD 2. If I had to say the most disappointing game in the CoD series, it would be this game. When I first got it off Amazon for $59.98 (yes lol I saved one cent), I was a bit skeptical. Before I got it, I saw MW3 gameplay and many gamers said "This game looks like MW2 or CoD 4". However, Assassins Creed Revelations looks like the previous games but it is very enjoying. Anyway, when I put the game into the disk, I was shocked. I was greeted by the startup screen: the same exact one in CoD MW2. I played the storyline a bit, and then I played the Multiplayer. The story was so easily predictable. Even the trailer gives out some spoilers! The first thing I was greeted by in Multiplayer was a 5 year-old screaming. He then argued with his mother about playing the game. Ugh, kids these days. I then chose the gun I wanted and then, BAM! I was spawn-camped by a level 56 gamer. I then left the game and I was looking for another game. I found a game and I noticed a guy magically headshotting my team. I then realized the game is horrible. When I left the game, I noticed something. I saw CoD Elite. Paying more for a game? WTF?!? Anyway, this game is horrible. It is MW2.5. Not MW3. Looks like I'm going to turn in this game for a BF3. Expand
  90. Dec 29, 2011
    0
    This game is played by little fat kids who like to suck there daddys dick all night. This **** **** hole of a piss stained game eats **** **** you **** kids you **** swallowers and dickfaced pigs
    This game is for wee little babies who **** their dacks and rub poo poo all over their mommys **** THIS GAME IS CRAP
  91. Dec 29, 2011
    0
    As a gamer from a young age, (3 years old) i can say that i have lived through the rise, and first fall of gaming, the fall being due to millions of people buying sellout games such as this. People who buy this game are putting passionate game developers out of business,and preventing us 'real gamers' from having games made with the creativity and care that we crave.
  92. Dec 29, 2011
    0
    This game sucks. The coop missions weren't very good, average at best. The campaign was just ok. The multiplayer is horrible. They have really screwed something up with the lag. I can't stand playing this game. Due to the multiplayer issues, it's hands down the worst COD game. I can play any of the other games without issue, but the second I start playing MW3 it's like I'm on dial up. IThis game sucks. The coop missions weren't very good, average at best. The campaign was just ok. The multiplayer is horrible. They have really screwed something up with the lag. I can't stand playing this game. Due to the multiplayer issues, it's hands down the worst COD game. I can play any of the other games without issue, but the second I start playing MW3 it's like I'm on dial up. I have no idea what they spent their time working on for this game. Pretty much nothing has changed. What a joke. Expand
  93. Dec 30, 2011
    2
    My meager comment will likely change nothing but Call of Duty needs to realize that a formula which worked years ago should undergo change after multiple installments. Modern Warfare 3 almost feels like DLC for the sequel, not a new game. Combine that with adding nothing to the MW games' villain, Makarov, and a multiplayer which has changed in only slight ways and you have every reason toMy meager comment will likely change nothing but Call of Duty needs to realize that a formula which worked years ago should undergo change after multiple installments. Modern Warfare 3 almost feels like DLC for the sequel, not a new game. Combine that with adding nothing to the MW games' villain, Makarov, and a multiplayer which has changed in only slight ways and you have every reason to save your money and keep Modern Warfare 2, or as it is known more popularly as, Call of Duty 4: Chapter 2. Expand
  94. Jan 1, 2012
    1
    Copy, paste and repeat. MW3 is the EXACT same game structure as previous call of duty titles. Now that does not make it a horrible game, it makes the design team incredibly lazy and they should be ashamed of the product they have presented. I have no problem with games using things from their predecessor, but this is ridiculous. Its sad that this will be one of the highest grossing gamesCopy, paste and repeat. MW3 is the EXACT same game structure as previous call of duty titles. Now that does not make it a horrible game, it makes the design team incredibly lazy and they should be ashamed of the product they have presented. I have no problem with games using things from their predecessor, but this is ridiculous. Its sad that this will be one of the highest grossing games of all-time just because of the name sake. The campaign has some bright spots, but we have done it all before in past games and clocking in at 5 hours is pathetic. I had to force myself to play through some levels because its just the SAME thing over and over. I know FPS games have a tall order with single player because by nature the core game play is repetitive, but for heaven sake PLEASE do something different with story mode. I must give this game a one because though its game play is for the most part solid (though i haven't touched on the wretched spawning in online mode) it takes a one on effort to do what i did for papers in school: copy paste Expand
  95. Jan 9, 2012
    0
    This game is by far the worst game that Call of Duty has created. Infinity Ward should be ashamed by how this game came out. Game play has not changed since CoD 4 and the campaign did not live up to expectations in the slightest. In my opinion Infinity Ward should take every copy of this game to a skeeter shooting range and take a few hours to put a shotgun shell into every copy.
  96. Jan 10, 2012
    0
    Nothing new to see here. Move along....................................................................................................................................................................................................
  97. Jan 17, 2012
    0
    I'm a fan of fps but this game I found to be the same as mw2 witch would be fine but mw2 sucked as well the game was just boring or some thing I've already played ill stick too battlefield
  98. Feb 1, 2012
    0
    sucks..........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
  99. May 2, 2012
    1
    I was so excited when the teaser came out, but now i barely even play this stupid game. It is MW1+MW2=This piece of **** I still somewhat like the gameplay, but the rest of the game sucks. Same old poor 2007 graphics, poor maps, and nothing new. Not worth $60.
  100. Apr 24, 2012
    4
    Sad excuse for a fps. A game for children who like arcade style crutch guns and upgrades. The longest sniper lane can't be more than two hundred meters. Yet the .50 cal is the most destructive cqb weapon in the game.
Metascore
88

Generally favorable reviews - based on 81 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 79 out of 81
  2. Negative: 0 out of 81
  1. Jan 11, 2012
    85
    Ultimately, Modern Warfare 3 feels similar to it's brethren, but that doesn't mean it isn't a great game. The single player element is still exciting, and multiplayer has more options than ever – if you're a fan of Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 3 is a no brainer.
  2. Dec 28, 2011
    84
    Modern Warfare 3, while still an excellent thrill ride in its own right, feels far too similar to MW2 or even Black Ops for my taste.
  3. I never expected Modern Warfare 3 to go toe-to-toe with EA's juggernaut this year, but it came out of the gates with a tour de force campaign and co-op mode. It loses points with a perhaps too-familiar multiplayer that caters to the juvenile on Xbox Live; though don't be mistaken, Modern Warfare 3 is one hell of a shooter and a highlight for a series that just won't die – no matter how much we wish it bloody would, at times.