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  1. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    Despite its dark themes, I really enjoyed this game. Visuals are stunning and the mechanics have been improved to a point where I was encouraged to use everything in my arsenal during combat encounters, which added to the overall experience.

    Atmosphere is amazing, especially the sound design. I also found the story engaging and the resolution to the main characters' story arc
    Despite its dark themes, I really enjoyed this game. Visuals are stunning and the mechanics have been improved to a point where I was encouraged to use everything in my arsenal during combat encounters, which added to the overall experience.

    Atmosphere is amazing, especially the sound design. I also found the story engaging and the resolution to the main characters' story arc satisfying. The only gripe I have with the game is the pacing in the second half but the ending made up for it. As with so many other excellent pieces of media, you do not always get what you want and have to go on your own journey to deal with it.

    On a side note, my PS4 Pro got very loud when HDR was enabled. Apart from that I only encountered two minor bugs throughout my 36 hours of playtime.
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  2. Jun 26, 2020
    6
    It's not a bad game per se, especially with most of the low rated reviews complaining about the story. However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Although, it could be agreeable to a certain extent that there are major flaws in the story-telling portion of the game, which is the fundamental point of the game in the first place, thus garnering as much negativity as it did for theIt's not a bad game per se, especially with most of the low rated reviews complaining about the story. However, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Although, it could be agreeable to a certain extent that there are major flaws in the story-telling portion of the game, which is the fundamental point of the game in the first place, thus garnering as much negativity as it did for the past few days.

    Nonetheless, based on personal experience (without any spoilers), the story is not bad, but its not good either. It's the type of story that hits hard to reality, where there are always the possibility of things going bad, but in the game EVERYTHING that could've went bad DID went bad which is the opposite of the fantasy "good ending" that most people want/expect from a game. It's not a game with a **** story, but its a story that makes you feel like **** and i cannot emphasize how ****ty someone could end up feeling after they finish the game.

    Also the introduction of the new characters are less developed compared to the first game, so players have less connection to them and honestly most people probably wouldn't care about what happens/happened to them. However, props to the actors and actresses for putting on an amazing performance nonetheless as one could really see and feel the emotions that they are trying to express which makes you relate more with the characters.

    Aside from that there are A LOT of flashbacks throughout the game which really kills off the momentum the game builds along the way, would be more arguably better to have the flashbacks as actual gameplay at the start of the game to allow players to redevelop the connection with the characters again, since even the first game's remastered version came out 6 years ago, a lot of time has passed and most players probably had already forgotten all the emotional turmoils that the first game provided.

    Despite that, the actual gameplay itself is amazing, with really well developed fight animations, great visuals and stunning scenery. One would not regret taking a minute off the gameplay just to look at the view. However, the combat system does still feel a little under-developed and the AIs have questionable movements and actions. Furthermore, every encounter does get increasingly repetitive and if I dare say "boring" as it seems to be a deliberate attempt in extending the gameplay length by adding in certain unnecessary encounters which does not make sense. (BUT THE ROPE PHYSICS CRAZY)

    To sum it all up, its a great game that i would recommend playing it once just for the experience. But personally once is more than enough as there is nothing to hold onto nor reminisce. Overall it may not be GOTY material as there are many aspects to improve on, but nonetheless it was still an enjoyable experience to a certain extent.
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  3. Jun 26, 2020
    4
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This is very hard to write because I love this game but still it had to be done.
    To start it all of, the gameplay, music was everything great like we expected it to be, the story was also great except for some parts. I knew they were going to kill Joel, and despite that fact that was what gave Ellie the strenght to pull all of what she did in Seattle. I Absolutely loved Dina, Ellie and JJ together, but the problem here is that Ellie after she leaves her home, in order to find the closure she needs, to look for Abby and kill her. I mean we play the game for hours and hours because just like Ellie, us the players also want to get revenge for Joel, and I feel like almost everyone in that position that Ellie was when drowning Abby would have killed her. Like she killed Joel and Jesse and nearly killed Dina and Tommy. I get that they wanted to stop with the killing cycle but like I said before we play through hours for basically no point whatsoever. To make this worse, Ellie comes home a few months later but the house is vacant. We've waited 7 years to get this end to the story? Please... and now I'm hearing rumors that we might get a last of us game with Abby and Lev as the protagonists, if they actually do that, I might just regret playing the second game at all, at this point I'm honestly thinking that I've should have just watched the game on Youtube to see the players get to the end and be like "for real this is it?" instead of wasting 79 euros on the game.
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  4. Jun 19, 2020
    1
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Oh my, oh my, how can I start this..
    Game isn’t what you’d expect, they managed to mess up a good storyline, there are so much holes in this story, I’m starting to think they didn’t care for it as much. Joel dies LITERALLY 30 minutes into the game or less. I can’t believe what I just played this is not acceptable, DO NOT BUY THIS GAME. Do yourself a favor. This upsets me so much having to write this, I loved the first one, this isn’t nowhere near that. Keep in mind I have finished the game.
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  5. Jun 26, 2020
    10
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  6. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Have to balance the stupid 0/10 reviews so yeah, 75 characters...OH the game its actually really good if anyone cares.
  7. Jun 20, 2020
    0
    Who the F*** thought it’s Ok to do this???

    How disappointing, been waiting 7 years for this.
  8. Jun 23, 2020
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. The game is absolutely a masterpiece in gameplay and story, in my opinion it’s the best game ever made Expand
  9. Jun 22, 2020
    8
    This game, although it does not reach what its prequel reached in what comes to be the narrative, in the graphic and sound section it fulfills very well, the same with the gameplay that far exceeds that of the first part, many play the theme that Ellie's homosexuality is quite exaggerated and annoys the character and hinders the story but in my opinion this feels very natural and does notThis game, although it does not reach what its prequel reached in what comes to be the narrative, in the graphic and sound section it fulfills very well, the same with the gameplay that far exceeds that of the first part, many play the theme that Ellie's homosexuality is quite exaggerated and annoys the character and hinders the story but in my opinion this feels very natural and does not hinder at all on the contrary it helps to have an experience quite different from what is customary. My conclusion is that while it is not as good as the first one it was still a very good game and also a very enjoyable game. Expand
  10. Jun 26, 2020
    3
    OK gameplay, good graphics, good soundtrack, good animations, awful story and awful characters. And for a game this focused on story, that's just terrible.
  11. Jun 23, 2020
    10
    Um dos melhores jogos do ano, quiçá da atualidade. Impressionante os caprichos e detalhes nas ambientações e narrativas.
  12. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    A lot of things like the graphics, animations, environments, and voice actors are undeniably top-notch. Gameplay core is the same but has been much improved. Of particular note is the different ways you can approach every single scenario, from stealth to the different weapons, or even melee (which is actually extremely fun).

    Now to get to the part that is apparently polarizing: the
    A lot of things like the graphics, animations, environments, and voice actors are undeniably top-notch. Gameplay core is the same but has been much improved. Of particular note is the different ways you can approach every single scenario, from stealth to the different weapons, or even melee (which is actually extremely fun).

    Now to get to the part that is apparently polarizing: the story. I personally find it a brave effort that is often profound. It's very visceral and made me empathize with characters in a way that I never thought they could do. Having said that, it is certainly not for everybody. It is full of pain, grief, and violence, and that can get exhausting for some. For those that are worried about the polarity in opinion, I think it is probably because the people that are upset wanted a continuation of the same story elements they saw in the first game, but were angry and confused when the game decided to take things in a new direction and explore different themes. My advice would be to relax and let the game tell you the story it wants to tell.

    My 10/10 score for the game is not to say that the game is perfect. No game is perfect. There are certainly problems with the pacing, and the skill trees and upgrades have not evolved enough, but these issues were never enough to detract from my experience with the game.
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  13. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    Muita lacração, mas de resto é bom, mas não adianta muito isso se a história não comunica com seus fãs.
  14. Jun 26, 2020
    1
    I can’t deny the gameplay itself is fun but the terrible story, pathetic attempt at shock value and awful character development made me regret picking up the controller.

    Just go back and play the first game again. Don’t bother picking this one up.
  15. Jun 20, 2020
    10
    This game is the peak of this generation and It’ll define next games to come, seriously just play it. I challenge you to find a single flaw that’s not based on your personal opinion on how the story should end, and how much you hate lesbians.
  16. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    The Last of Us 2 is, in technical terms, perfect. From visual to sound, soundtrack to perfomances, it's one of the best games ever made. The gameplay is some of the best stealth ever made and rewarding to explore. I also really liked the narrative and the story it told, but I think the fact that you play two characters in big chunks affected the pace of the game a little. The only change IThe Last of Us 2 is, in technical terms, perfect. From visual to sound, soundtrack to perfomances, it's one of the best games ever made. The gameplay is some of the best stealth ever made and rewarding to explore. I also really liked the narrative and the story it told, but I think the fact that you play two characters in big chunks affected the pace of the game a little. The only change I would have liked is if you played the two storys in parallel, like in the first hour. I understand that some story bits will upset some fans, but I feel that it fits in the world ND created and are appropriate for the story it tells. The first LoU is one of my top 3 games all time, and, althout this one is not a 10 in my opinion like its predecessor, it's still delivers a very strong and powerful sequel. A must have for any PS4 owner. Expand
  17. Jun 26, 2020
    8
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. not bad, i didn't like playing with abby for a lot of time but the ending was cool Expand
  18. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Despite what you might have heard the last of us two is not total trash, it is actually a very well-crafted story paralleling multiple characters in more ways than one with a strong message that Will not only emotionally break you multiple times watching the trials and tribulations of the characters throughout the story, the gameplay is some of the most fun and brutal that I have playedDespite what you might have heard the last of us two is not total trash, it is actually a very well-crafted story paralleling multiple characters in more ways than one with a strong message that Will not only emotionally break you multiple times watching the trials and tribulations of the characters throughout the story, the gameplay is some of the most fun and brutal that I have played long time, while it does not break the mold of gameplay it improves almost everything in the gameplay from last of us one, you must remember this is not your story this is the characters and you were just along for the ride. Expand
  19. Jun 25, 2020
    3
    Not sure what they were thinking making fans wait 7 years to simply pull the unexpected twists they added to this deeply flawed story. It’s one thing to subvert expectations, but if you’re not going to do it well, don’t trade in character logic for shock value. As a genuine huge fan of the first game, I couldn’t be more disappointed with the creative choices made in this disaster of aNot sure what they were thinking making fans wait 7 years to simply pull the unexpected twists they added to this deeply flawed story. It’s one thing to subvert expectations, but if you’re not going to do it well, don’t trade in character logic for shock value. As a genuine huge fan of the first game, I couldn’t be more disappointed with the creative choices made in this disaster of a sequel. Expand
  20. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. The gameplay is good and the graphic too but the story ruined it. Having to watch your favorite character died in a stupid way and you spent 50% of the game as a main antagonist. This game is stupid beyond all things Expand
  21. Jun 26, 2020
    7
    Story:
    Dark and gritty story with some big pacing problems and weird choices that are out of your control, it will take you on an emotional roller coaster, for better or for worse, love it or hate it.
    Gameplay: Everything just works and has a nice flow to it. Character animations and combat is flawless and fun, combat and stealth can become a little repetitive towards the end but can
    Story:
    Dark and gritty story with some big pacing problems and weird choices that are out of your control, it will take you on an emotional roller coaster, for better or for worse, love it or hate it.
    Gameplay:
    Everything just works and has a nice flow to it. Character animations and combat is flawless and fun, combat and stealth can become a little repetitive towards the end but can be remedied by trying different approaches and tactics. Companion AI is a little stupid at times and can break immersion.
    Graphics and environment:
    Absolutely beautiful graphics that really shows what the ps4 can pull off in one of its last big games. The environment and attention detail are amazing, I spent a lot of time just admiring the world as I went through it.
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  22. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Ce jeu est le meilleur que l'on ai pu avoir pour clôturer cette génération de console !
    L'ambiance visuelle et sonore sont tout simplement sublime !

    Le gameplay n'a pas évolué énormément par rapport au premier, si ce n'est en ajoutant quelques mécanique supplémentaire bien sympathique (se coucher par exemple), mais en soit, ce n'est pas ce que j'attends d'un titre comme celui-ci. Je préfère au contraire que le studio garde ce qu'il y a de mieux dans le précédent opus, et c'est ce qu'ils ont fait !

    Concernant les débat qui font que la note est ce qu'elle est aujourd'hui, je trouve cela puéril est surtout invalide.
    Un des personnage lesbienne/gay ? Et alors ? Il est ou le problème ? Le seul problème que je vois, ce sont les c** qui n'acceptent pas qu'une telle chose puisse exister dans un jeu.

    Trop de cinématique ? Que neni ! J'ai trouvé au contraire que des fois, le gameplay tirais un peu en longueur, et des cinématiques en plus n'auraient pas été de refus (cela dit, ce n'est pas un point négatif pour autant).

    Une histoire bancale ? Non, du tout ! Bien au contraire, TLOU II nous amène dans une direction que personne n'aurais imaginé avant. Tout le monde se voyais déjà parcourir les USA avec Ellie et Joel, comme au bon vieux temps. Mais ce serait oublier que TLOU se passe dans un environnement violent et détruit par un infection virulente !

    De plus, celui-ci nous questionne sur deux points très important :
    - Notre relation avec la vengeance ;
    - Démontrer que dans le monde, tout n'est pas tout noir ou tout blanc, qu'il n'y a pas de bien et de mal, mais au contraire une très grosse nuance des deux en une seule instance.

    Abby n'est pas méchante, elle a fait des choix car elle a vécu des choses qui l'ont mise face à ces choix. De même pour Ellie, qui n'est pas méchante non plus, mais qui souhaite se venger suite à la mort d'un être cher.

    En fait, Abby et Ellie vivent exactement la même situation toutes les deux. Leurs père (ou de coeur) a été froidement abattu, et elles demandent vengeance.

    Bref, titre énorme, je ne regrette pas d'avoir perdu 30h de mon temps dessus, et je m'en vais de ce pas en perde 40 de plus en survivant+ !

    Et f*** les rageux :D
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  23. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    IT is the best game for PS4! I love it, ist's a super game!!!!!!
  24. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Восхитительно. Эмоционально.
    Понимаю, фанатов игры, которые ждали 7 лет, чтобы поиграть, а получили совсем не то, что ожидали. Но это не отменяет того факта, что игра и с технической стороны, и сюжета очень сильна. Абсолютно не жалею потраченные 30+ часов геймплея, оно того стоило.
    Ни одна игра у меня не вызывала такой привязанности к героям : к главным и второстепенным.
    Я все еще под впечатлением.
    Tlou 2 разбила мне сердце.
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  25. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Incredibly done game that plays with pleasure. Technical aspect done masterfully and story subjectively felt very well done as well for me.
  26. Jun 26, 2020
    6
    Graphics and audio: Top notch
    Gameplay: Good
    Story: Why?!

    After I finished the game I was just sitting there, asking myself, what the hell? That's it? No... can't be...
  27. Jun 26, 2020
    3
    Worst experience i've ever had in gaming, they really couldn't have come out with a worse story for the sequel. Whoever wrote the story should be fired, totally ruined one of the best franchises in gaming.
  28. Jun 23, 2020
    10
    Great game. Great plot twist. Hope TLOU2 win the game of the year. There's just a lot of hatewagons out there
  29. Jun 26, 2020
    2
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Мне дали ложную надежду, что Элли будет путешествовать с Джоэлом хотя бы до середины игры, но в реальности Джоэл не прожил и двух часов. Если бы я знала, что Джоэло убьют, в первые часы игры, я бы не стала покупать игру. Зачем вводить в заблуждение? Зачем показывать в трейлере Джоэла, а потом менять его на Джесси? Что за вранье? Я ненавижу разработчиков, которые создают не правдивые трейлеры, играют на моих чувствах в ожидании игры. Я хочу забить эту игру, как страшный сон. Лжецы. Expand
  30. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    Una secuela valiente y arriesgada que pone una brecha de oro a la generación. Sus mecánicas jugables son geniales y su apartado técnico es de otro mundo, con las mejores animaciones faciales de la actualidad y unos escenarios variados y visualmente imponentes.

    Es un juego largo y, a pesar de sus altibajos, es absolutamente imprescindible. Basta decir que las críticas con un suspenso son
    Una secuela valiente y arriesgada que pone una brecha de oro a la generación. Sus mecánicas jugables son geniales y su apartado técnico es de otro mundo, con las mejores animaciones faciales de la actualidad y unos escenarios variados y visualmente imponentes.

    Es un juego largo y, a pesar de sus altibajos, es absolutamente imprescindible. Basta decir que las críticas con un suspenso son poco más que una broma que ni debería tenerse en cuenta. Naughty Dog no ha ido a lo fácil, y eso es de aplaudir.
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  31. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. I actually played the game. It's good.
    It's not pushing an agenda or politics or whatever. I am sorry it's not Ellie and Joel traveling across America again. The game took a chance and went in a bold direction.
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  32. Jun 26, 2020
    1
    12 из 10. А если честно, то сюжет слабый и не оправдал мои ожидания. Критики же, просто подлили масла в огонь своими оценками.
  33. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    This story wasn't exactly what I had been imagining or hoping for all these years, but in all honesty the story I hoped for would have been nothing better than crappy fan fiction.

    What we were given was a gut-wrenching and exploratory continuation of the world set up in the original game. When the credits rolled the impact was just as powerful. I would seriously question the motives of
    This story wasn't exactly what I had been imagining or hoping for all these years, but in all honesty the story I hoped for would have been nothing better than crappy fan fiction.

    What we were given was a gut-wrenching and exploratory continuation of the world set up in the original game. When the credits rolled the impact was just as powerful.
    I would seriously question the motives of users giving this game very negative reviews.
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  34. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    I feel the need to write my first review since I saw all these other reviews. The game is absolutely brilliant and I loved almost every second of it. I didn't have problem with playing for Abby, since it's completely new thing to play as a character like hers, pretty interesting if u ask me. Graphics and music is one of the best you can find out there. I was a huge fan of first part andI feel the need to write my first review since I saw all these other reviews. The game is absolutely brilliant and I loved almost every second of it. I didn't have problem with playing for Abby, since it's completely new thing to play as a character like hers, pretty interesting if u ask me. Graphics and music is one of the best you can find out there. I was a huge fan of first part and like many other waited for 5 years and only thing I was disapointed with is the overly negative reviews. But also I couldn't rate the game with 10/10 since there are some plot-holes and minor disturbing story **** ups, but still one of the best stories I've played through. Please don't let yourself be turned off by those bad reviews and at least give it a chance Expand
  35. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    This game is not as good as the original, but that's not to say it isn't powerful. Game wise, it's just as good as the last, if not better. Story wise, i think the story is not as unique and powerful as the first.

    This story suffers with poor execution. This game overuses flashbacks and retroactive storytelling. I think if this story was ordered differently, while still retaining SOME
    This game is not as good as the original, but that's not to say it isn't powerful. Game wise, it's just as good as the last, if not better. Story wise, i think the story is not as unique and powerful as the first.

    This story suffers with poor execution. This game overuses flashbacks and retroactive storytelling. I think if this story was ordered differently, while still retaining SOME flashbacks, I think it would be very good, but as it is, the story i think does not live up to expectations. Many people are mad that is overuses the 'revenge is bad' story line, but I really don't think that's true, it's just that it retroactively uses that, instead of doing at the time.

    Overall though, definitely worth playing, and definitely not worth the mountains of poor reviews here. Good game, but maybe trying to hard to top the first and create something unique, instead creating something somewhat jumbled and unsatisfying.
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  36. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. The most touching and human game i've ever played. It's been on my mind since and i hope it stays that way. Expand
  37. Jun 26, 2020
    10
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  38. Jun 26, 2020
    1
    La historia es el punto mas flojo, gráficamente y jugablemente es bueno. Pero el guión es pésimo, forzado, innecesario, barato y del montón, además mientras los juego siento que se me está adoctrinando constantemente. La inclusión que pretenden para estar a la moda y ganarse a la audiencia que les interesa no es de forma natural, te la repiten en la oreja constantemente. El juego es unLa historia es el punto mas flojo, gráficamente y jugablemente es bueno. Pero el guión es pésimo, forzado, innecesario, barato y del montón, además mientras los juego siento que se me está adoctrinando constantemente. La inclusión que pretenden para estar a la moda y ganarse a la audiencia que les interesa no es de forma natural, te la repiten en la oreja constantemente. El juego es un inulto a la primera entrega, no voy a hacer spoiler pero... En fin. Expand
  39. Jun 26, 2020
    2
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Meu Deus que jogo politizado com pautas esquerdistas, Zumbi que é bom é pouco. Não vale a pena comprar, cagaram com história. O primeiro é legal mas esse parte 2 Só por Deus. Não gastem seu dinheiro, história horrível e totalmente feito pra esquerdista. Não recomendo péssimo jogo. Lacração do começo ao fim. Expand
  40. Jun 26, 2020
    4
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. It is definitely an improvement towards it's technical aspects except the pointless jump button, but people forget the main reason people liked the first game so much.
    If i have to compare the writing of the first game to this it would go from brilliant to braindead. Characters do things that don't make sense making dumb irritating decisions.
    The character Abby (the **** that kills Joel) that we suppose to give a **** about is developed very poorly and in result the fact that we have to play as her makes it very painful for the player in a narrative standpoint.
    I feel shame for all those hard working Naughty Dog employees that had to put up with Druckman's sjw bull**** propaganda. The game thanks to their hard efforts looks beautiful making it the best looking game on the PS4, the sound design also excellent.
    If the game had a decent and competent story like the first one i would probably love it.

    Ignore the plot and play it just from a gameplay perspective and it's actually pretty good.
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  41. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    thank you for a game for mature and intelligent people with unexpected story.
  42. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    **** story **** story **** story

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  43. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    Played around 3 hours of this game. Had to refund and replay the first one whilst repeating the phrase ‘there’s no place like home’. They don’t make em like they used to :(
  44. Jun 23, 2020
    9
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. In my opinion, this is one of the best games ever made for PS4.
    The characters, the plot, level design, physics, animations, everything perfect in this game.
    Yes, the ending is very controversial. But those, who just think a bit, will understand motivation of the characters.
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  45. Jun 20, 2020
    0
    a silly game that literally killed the essence of the former and a story of teenagers with love problems in a world in ruins, the most stupid story, a child would invent better stories, but if he had known, he would not play it, even if it was free , many graphics and a very silly story, better endorse a count because what they did was stupid
  46. Jun 26, 2020
    5
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Absolutely amazing gameplay and visuals but I don’t agree with how the characters were treated in this game, so much wasted potential.

    Killing Joel had to happen in this game but the way it was done was terrible. A veteran survivor of over 20+ years just causally walking into a trap like that really left a sour taste in my mouth early on.

    Also the marketing of this game really led gamers to believe it would be a Joel and Ellie adventure when in the end Joel was only present briefly, I don’t think it’s fair for a company to mid lead people like that. Forcing players to spend a large majority of the game playing as Abby the woman who literally beat and tortured Joel to death was a terrible idea. I spent most of her 7/10 hours of game time just bored and not sympathetic to her in any way, then the fight scene where the game makes you attack Ellie a beloved character who you actually empathise with and beat her to a pulp was a joke.

    Finally the ending of the game was so anti climatic. I was so excited to play out Ellie and Abbys last fight and finally get revenge on Joels killer then she just lets her go. After Ellie has killed maybe 100+ people to get to this woman it just makes absolutely no sense for her to forgive her at the end. I will do a new game+ at some point but I absolutely will be skipping all of the Abby sections on my next play through, It could have been an actual masterpiece but Naughty Dog really dropped the ball on this game.
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  47. Jun 26, 2020
    4
    This is the HIGHEST Score that suitable for the Game...
    At fist REMEMBER this game is Story Driven Games... so If the STORY is MESSED UP... That'll make the WHOLE ASPECT Useless...
    With Graphics, Animation, Sound, that Top Notch, on Story Driven Game but you give the Crappy Story...
    That's a DISASTER ...
    Anyone who give this 0/10 is not Helping at all..
  48. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    This is the best game in the last 5 years. Graphics, animation, music, and of course the plot are simply beyond praise. I would love to go through it again on ps5 to plunge even further into this world of rage, anger and violence. The game has only one minus that it is over. After this game, it will be difficult to seriously look at the projects of other studios. In no case do not watchThis is the best game in the last 5 years. Graphics, animation, music, and of course the plot are simply beyond praise. I would love to go through it again on ps5 to plunge even further into this world of rage, anger and violence. The game has only one minus that it is over. After this game, it will be difficult to seriously look at the projects of other studios. In no case do not watch reviews on this game, and even more so let’s plays, this is a very "personal" game that will give you a lot of emotions Expand
  49. Jun 23, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. El guion apesta, es una historia forzada, mal contada, con demasiados saltos en el tiempo, personajes sin carisma, una historia sin sentido que no lleva a absolutamente nada, un fraude, no vuelvo a comprar un juego de este director en mi vida. Expand
  50. Jun 26, 2020
    8
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Oyunun grafikleri olsun, mekanikleri olsun gayet güzel. Oynanışı çok güzel sizi oradaymış gibi etkiliyor ve yaşattırıyor. Ama ilk oyunda bize gösterilen konunun gayet güzel işlenişi, Joel ve Ellie’nin arasındaki bağ gayet güzeldi ve insanları asıl çeken şeyin de bu olduğunu düşünüyorum. Fakat 2.oyunda Joel’u o kadar görememiz beni çok üzdü. Ben daha çok Joel ve Ellie’nin arasındaki ilişkiyi görmek istiyordum. Joel’un sakladığı sırrı Ellie’nin öğrendiğinde ki verdiği tepkiden sonra neler yaşandı, nasıl düzeldi veya nasıl düzelmediğini görmek isterdim. Joel’un Ellie’nin nasıl arasındaki ilişkinin daha da yakınlaşmasını görmek isterdim. Ama oyunun 24-25 saatlik oynanış kısmının 2.saatinde Joel’un ölmesi kötüydü. Ve hiç tanımadığımız bir karakter olan Abby’le Ellie kadar 10–11 saat oynamamız kötüydü. Bunlar hatalıydı. Ama bu oyunun geri kalanını gayet beğendim. Bir başıt bence denemez. Denirse ilk oyuna haksız olucağını düşünüyorum. Expand
  51. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. This game is obviously not a 0, but i am giving it that score to counteract the insane 10 reviews.
    Objectively its 6/10. Lovely graphics, visceral animations, haunting sound design. Gameplay is a bit outdated, but good enough. Story is the main problem... really poor writing. lt feels like a cheap fanfic. Joel's death is simply insane, playing as Abby was mentally exhausting i would've preferred to be able to skip that part (yep, lose 10 hours of the game willingly). Ending is simply nonsensical, you kill over 200 people and yet you do not finish the job? At least they could've given us a choice to kill or not kill that roided up monstrosity.
    This game never happened, Last of Us is a sequel-less title as far as i'm concerned.

    Buy used.
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  52. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. you fxxk it up the sory this story is just a political staytment nothing else u destroy this game for you who dont playd it jet dont stay with the first game and its fine bravo bravo u idiots from naughty dog and neil quit get the f out of this buissnes u suck Expand
  53. Jun 26, 2020
    1
    Gameplay awesome storyline could've been better would've been ok with Joel dying but not the way he did die that's like killing off Rick Grimes in the first 20minutes in the walking dead movie u would think for such a smart badass character he'd be more cautious about new stragglers in the world they live in Joel deserved a better ending and it's not just about Joel's death it's theGameplay awesome storyline could've been better would've been ok with Joel dying but not the way he did die that's like killing off Rick Grimes in the first 20minutes in the walking dead movie u would think for such a smart badass character he'd be more cautious about new stragglers in the world they live in Joel deserved a better ending and it's not just about Joel's death it's the storyline that doesn't make any sense to me e Expand
  54. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Of course Tlou2 is not THE perfect game, and I think the beginning of the game does start a little to stereotypical. But the Game surely does deserve a way higher scare the the user score is right now (~4.3)
    There are some minor flaws to the game, and not everyone has to like it. The story is brutal, harsh and extremely emotional (I never cried during any film or game till I played this
    Of course Tlou2 is not THE perfect game, and I think the beginning of the game does start a little to stereotypical. But the Game surely does deserve a way higher scare the the user score is right now (~4.3)
    There are some minor flaws to the game, and not everyone has to like it. The story is brutal, harsh and extremely emotional (I never cried during any film or game till I played this one, this game made me cry, laugh and scream out loud.) but that's what this game was supposed to be the whole time. The nice moments are rare, and most of the time you will feel devastated and angry, just like Ellie does, and thats what makes this Game special. And just because it's not a nice story doesn't mean it's a bad one, especially since it's really good written and incredible well incised.
    To really appreciate the story, you have to be open minded, and give the story and the characters a fair chance, and not just be stuck with your mindset you have after a couple hours, which is hard for sure. But only then you will fully understand the story Naughty Dog wanted to tell, and maybe even learn a lesson from it. The Game will definitely be stuck in my memories for a really long time, and I'm glad to have given this game the chance.
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  55. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Most disgusting game I’ve ever played. The story ruined all the efforts the team made. **** than a piece of **** Don’t play. Expand
  56. Jun 25, 2020
    10
    This game is a masterpiece. Gorgeous storytelling, gorgeous graphics, gorgeous gameplay. I've been trying to understend the people who are disappointed, but theyìir arguments always make no sense to me. The sound like crybabies, or rather racist, homofobic, toxic people, who know nothing about storytelling pretending they do. Do yourself a favor, and play this game if you played the first one
  57. Jun 26, 2020
    7
    Sound and music: 2/2
    Gameplay: 3/3
    Story: 2.5/5
    The only problem of the story is that its told in the wrong order, at least in my opinion.
    Overall 7.5/10
  58. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Невозможно играть в это .... Тебе в рот кладут феминистический лгбтшный высер Expand
  59. Jun 26, 2020
    7
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Я понимаю спорность всей истории, понимаю поступки героев, но мне очень больно принимать продолжение таким, какое оно есть. Больно и мучительно было после первого прохождения, когда после убийства главного героя игра обязывает играть за Эбби - но я чувствую к ней только ненависть и злобу. Это очень сложно, ведь этот пусть занимает половину игры.
    Только проходя игру во второй раз, я уже знала кто такая Эбби, знала ее мотивы и могла ее понять.
    Мое фанатское сердце разбито.
    Расстраивает некий фактор воздействия со стороны радикального феминизма, я бы хотела следить за личностями, а не за клешированной сильной, независимой и накаченной женщиной.
    ЛГБТ ни в коей мере не задевает, если оно преподносится адекватно и без навязывания - в данной игре это именно так.
    С нетерпением буду ждать DLC, где нам расскажут о дальнейших приключениях Элли.

    Графика фантастическая, отношения к деталям и этот сумасшедше крутой и опасный мир, звуковое сопровождение - огромное спасибо дизайнерам, программистам и другим разработчикам.

    Игра на 10 из 10, но я ставлю нейтральную 7 за построение сюжета и вмешательство в игру SJW.
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  60. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Excellent game! Naughty dog does it again. Quite the masterpiece unlike any other game highlighting social issues that we are faced with today.
  61. Jun 23, 2020
    10
    Beautiful and horrifying. Loved it. Worthy sequel to a masterpiece. Thank you naughty dog!
  62. Jun 23, 2020
    1
    Bad writing destroyed this game :( Joel from TLOU: Look at me and I kill you

    Joel from TLOU part II: Hi, Im Joel Miller, and thats my brother Tommy, my security password is 1234

    Epic fail
  63. Jun 23, 2020
    1
    The only positive thing about this game is the visual (that's why I give 1 point), but other than that poor storytelling, completely illogical character choices, way too PC and probably the worst ending in videogame history. Up until this game I've been a huge Naughty Dog fan (platinumed all previous games) but now I'm just sad, disappointed, and empty...
  64. Jun 26, 2020
    1
    In a gorgeous box,you can see a piece of ****.
    I want everything about this game get out of my brain immediately.
  65. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Play it yourself.
    I just finished the The Last of Us 2 and man... such a beautiful, stunning and addictive game! I was sad because of the spoilers and leaks, but by playing the game, I got surprised, the game doesn't feel wrong by any aspect, there's no hero or villain, it's a game about people! If you're like me, who likes the first game, and wants to believe the game is amazing as it
    Play it yourself.
    I just finished the The Last of Us 2 and man... such a beautiful, stunning and addictive game! I was sad because of the spoilers and leaks, but by playing the game, I got surprised, the game doesn't feel wrong by any aspect, there's no hero or villain, it's a game about people! If you're like me, who likes the first game, and wants to believe the game is amazing as it seems, go and PLAY IT, do not care about reviews by haters, go and play it yourself!
    10/10 game of my life
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  66. Jun 19, 2020
    0
    I'm Truly heartbroken after waiting all these years and falling in love with the first game this is what we got what huge FN disappointment neil druckmenn or whatever his name is should be fired for pushing his agenda and bullcrap on our faces i really hope sony does something because this is just bad
  67. Jun 24, 2020
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. a sensational game that showed what reality is like in an apocalyptic world. the story of the game is fantastic and complex, the emotional load that the game goes through is sensational, incredible gameplay and the best graphics of this generation of consoles. Expand
  68. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    The story ruined the gameplay and graphics. Holy **** I've never played a game with a story this ****ty. Can't imagine how retarded you have to be to enjoy the story. I'd rather kill myself than play this game ever again. Thank you for ruining one of my favorite games, Naughty Dog!
  69. Jun 23, 2020
    10
    Amazing game, I love it. Interesting story and characters. Unbelievable graphic and animations.
  70. Jun 26, 2020
    3
    I would give it a 3.
    2 for Joel and 1 for the happy life Ellie was supposed to have.
  71. Jun 24, 2020
    10
    An incredible, uncomfortable experience, start through finish. I'll be playing this forever.
  72. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Отличная графика. Сюжет говно, унылый геймплей после 10 часов игры, ненужные персонажи, за которых почему-то играешь, на ЛГБТ все равно. Expand
  73. Jun 26, 2020
    4
    Perfect graphics... Well, is it even important in the STORY GAME. The problem is, the story is pretty weak, it really feels like SJW propaganda, I don´t have problem with LGBT, but this is sooo forced. I would be angry even if the heterosexual things were so forced in the game. But the biggest problem is that story doesn´t work, revenge and that is basically all. Destruction of the franchise !!!
  74. Jun 26, 2020
    3
    Too bad my very first review goes like this.

    There're good examples of stories about revenge (such as Kill Bill, Oldboy, Red Dead Redemption) and then we have the Last of Us part II... As many already mentioned we have the strongest visual design possible, great music, and smooth gameplay yet the weakest story you can imagine. I'm not going to complain about Joel (though it
    Too bad my very first review goes like this.

    There're good examples of stories about revenge (such as Kill Bill, Oldboy, Red Dead Redemption) and then we have the Last of Us part II...

    As many already mentioned we have the strongest visual design possible, great music, and smooth gameplay yet the weakest story you can imagine.

    I'm not going to complain about Joel (though it HURTS), because I truly believe this was the main reason to move on. Without such a strong bound with Joel we (and Ellie) wouldn't really care to fight. And thing could have worked BUT! But in the end we see it's all in vain. It's absolutely meaningless! We kill hundreds of people just to let Abby go. Ellie's left with no fingers, with no family, with no future, to be honest.
    I've spent 30+ hours to feel depressed, to feel betrayed and to realize this game doesn't even have an idea, a moral. Killing is bad? Hell it is, but what about all those dead people? Revenge is bad?? Tell Abby about that! She USED her chance to kill Joel, Ellie failed a lot. All in all, character development is VERY poor. I'd prefer to erase my memory and pretend this game never happened.

    Such a big disappointment and weak scenario, Naughty Dog. Shame on you.
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  75. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    This is my first ever game review for over 25 years of gaming. I cant stay away from this injustice taking place in low rating user reviews. I want to support Naughtydog and pay my respects to whole team that made this masterpiece. This is truly the one of the best games in this genre I ever played and one of the best games period. It has all of the main ingredients for this - outstandingThis is my first ever game review for over 25 years of gaming. I cant stay away from this injustice taking place in low rating user reviews. I want to support Naughtydog and pay my respects to whole team that made this masterpiece. This is truly the one of the best games in this genre I ever played and one of the best games period. It has all of the main ingredients for this - outstanding graphics and sound, immersive gameplay and heart breaking story.

    Thank you for the Last of Us Part II, ignore the haters.
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  76. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    played the game through in a few days. graphic and gameplay are awesome and i really like the story. its not predictable and has a lot of plot twists.
  77. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Emotionally incredible game. It made me sad, happy, furious and ashamed. Neil Druckmann made an excellent experiment with the emotions of players. I understand why lots of people just couldn’t accept what happened, but if you at least play that game and accept what you see, you will get an unforgettable emotional experience . Plus this game is also a technical masterpiece. 10/10, bravo !Emotionally incredible game. It made me sad, happy, furious and ashamed. Neil Druckmann made an excellent experiment with the emotions of players. I understand why lots of people just couldn’t accept what happened, but if you at least play that game and accept what you see, you will get an unforgettable emotional experience . Plus this game is also a technical masterpiece. 10/10, bravo ! And I’m sure that 99% of all those people who put 0 do it despite they haven’t even played it . And yes, I believe they could have put less lgbt in the game . But it doesn’t ruin the overall experience and can be easily ignored. Expand
  78. Jun 19, 2020
    10
    Great story and setting, unique characters with loads of depth, and challenging gameplay. And looks fantastic. Possible GOTY
  79. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    Its just gameplay story and character is so bad i dont no why nutydogs Ruined the last of us
  80. Jun 24, 2020
    10
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. I cannot but associate my highest rating with The Last Of Us 2: most likely, your perception will be different, you will put emphasis in the story in your own way, and you interpret emotional moments differently.

    I have a few things that are impossible to argue.

    ● You need to have huge eggs to set yourself the task: “Let's kill all the beloved hero, and then make everyone love the killer.”
    ● The second part at times deepens the problems of the first. This is a “true” sequel that contains all two parts.
    ● It was only the middle of the journey - one of the most difficult moments. “If we lived happily ever after” - this was not as intended.
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  81. Jun 26, 2020
    3
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Затянутый сюжет. Множество багов. Главный минус - это финал игры. Expand
  82. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    The game is not for Marvel fans definitely. There are no good and bad people in the real world, it all comes to the perspective. Druckmann created a masterpiece, it's an emotions roller coaster.
  83. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    It's great on so many levels, graphics, gameplay, sound, art, lighting are all 10 (and I think no one would say otherwise, maybe regarding gameplay).
    Then comes the story, I understand people are upset. But it's not a bad written story, or a bad story at all. They took a route alot of people (presumably) didn't want. But it's still an epic story about love, revenge and forgiveness.
  84. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Finally got through and finished this game. Why is the game so bad? Short answer: the narrative is complete trash. "Hurrrr durrrr, I just killed hundreds of people but ill let you go as to not let revenge overpower me." WTF? They killed off one of the main characters in the most stupid way possible. The guy who never trusted anyone suddenly gets caught trusting someone he shouldn't. Wtf? I gave this a 0 because it is a narrative game and if the story sucks, then it's trash. Expand
  85. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    I really didn't enjoy this game, it was very tense and stressful.
    A video game has to be fun and not so in this case, the game made me feel very bad, since I was playing with an assassin.
    This is not funny, the story is very bad, the press lied to us and deceived us
  86. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    There have been many bad reviews and though i understand what some of them mean, the gross majority is dead wrong. This game is amazing. Story 9/10
    Graphics 10/10
    Music 10/10
    Actors 10/10
    Gameplay 10/10
  87. Jun 21, 2020
    10
    incredible effort by game developers. Beautiful game with atmosphere! It's really sad and heartbroken
  88. Jun 26, 2020
    1
    It breaks my heart.
    Story was literal garbage and the developers made sure to piss off all the fans.
    Go waste your money on another game.
  89. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Great game. If you aren’t a bigot or a moron like most of the ‘users’ rating on this website, you will 100% enjoy this game.
  90. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This new game is flawed conceptually, emotionally, and in execution. It’s time for politics to be taken out of video games. Do not waste your money.
  91. Jun 26, 2020
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Final ruim, comparado com o primeiro game da pra se dizer que decaíram muito... e muito bug tambem Expand
  92. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Прекрасная, взрослая история без плохих и хороших. Все прошли некоторое дерьмо, у всех есть причины ненавидеть. Геймплей — The Last of Us 2.0, то есть тоже самое, но круче в два раза.

    P.S. Особенно радует количество хейтеров и ревью-бомбинг нулями. P.S.S. «Повесточки» в игре не больше, чем в какой-нибудь AC Odyssey
    Прекрасная, взрослая история без плохих и хороших. Все прошли некоторое дерьмо, у всех есть причины ненавидеть. Геймплей — The Last of Us 2.0, то есть тоже самое, но круче в два раза.

    P.S. Особенно радует количество хейтеров и ревью-бомбинг нулями.
    P.S.S. «Повесточки» в игре не больше, чем в какой-нибудь AC Odyssey
  93. Jun 26, 2020
    5
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Having just played The Last Of Us Remaster a couple of weeks ago So the comparison is pretty fresh in my mind. The good: visuals are absolutely awesome, looks amazing. The bad: there is almost no improvement in mechanics or AI from the last game, yeah you can jump and go prone and the dogs add a new factor but no real innovation here. All you are doing is just going to one box, fighting, finding items and then moving onto the next box. The worst: The story really did not do it for me, I loved the relationships in the first game but this was all thrown out the door with this. I really didn’t care about any of the characters in this story (except Joel) and by the end was really ambivalent if Ellie or Abby died. Expand
  94. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    Just know that, this game will not be consumed by some haters, whether you like somethings or not, it's all personal and definitely not that "Bad" as some people describes. Play it and see it yourself, this is an immersion of a world you have to experience on your own.
  95. Jun 25, 2020
    10
    This is a game that will have you on the edge of your seat for the whole play through. You will get teary eyed by then end. The leaks and reviews from those that haven't played it finished that game are inconsequential. This is a must play by the highest regard. But I will say this, it takes a toll on you on you. I had to had stop playing a couple of times because I just couldn't go onThis is a game that will have you on the edge of your seat for the whole play through. You will get teary eyed by then end. The leaks and reviews from those that haven't played it finished that game are inconsequential. This is a must play by the highest regard. But I will say this, it takes a toll on you on you. I had to had stop playing a couple of times because I just couldn't go on anymore. But thankfully I did. Expand
  96. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    Graphic (details, lightning,...) 9/10

    Technologic (sound efect, mimics,...) 9,5/10

    Story 7,5/10 (i have 27h play time. Story for me? Not great not terrible. First part had better story, but part 2 has potential)
  97. Jun 26, 2020
    10
    I don’t understand why the game is getting so much hate. It’s a lot of fun and it looks amazing. Not much more I want. I like the story. In the world that the characters live in it makes sense to me as to why the story does what it does. Would highly recommend.
  98. Jun 26, 2020
    3
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. Gameplay/Graphics 9/10
    I'm no critic but here is how I feel...
    I really enjoyed the gameplay, throw a bottle here, go around there, stealth, or guns blazing the same as the first with tweaks to the model's movement and reaction to surroundings to make it feel more natural/realistic. Bravo to the team at Naughty Dog for accomplishing this. The Visuals are stunning the landscape, the water, the different seasons, and how it changes the whole mood as the story progresses. Everything came together very well and really opened my eyes.

    Story 2/10
    Yes I played The Last of Us Part 1 and I will try to make this as unbias as I can (which is difficult.) I will not say the story in this game is helpless because it has a very interesting take on revenge and the consequences of your actions in an almost domino effect. But, the order in which events take place just forces the player to be put in the dark state for most of the game. Like Troy Baker said "This game rests on a pendulum, and in order to reach heights that it does, it must go to the depths. In order to achieve that level of beauty, we must have that level of despair." (interview with Collider Games) With that in mind, Joel the character we get to know and love is murdered within the first 2 hours of the game and you only get to play him for about 30 minutes. So boom despair and that continues on until the flashbacks which I would rate 10/10 absolute tear-jerking moments that make you smile and add on so much to the relationship development between Joel and Ellie. After those what are we left with? Hate. You play as Ellie going out to get your revenge and almost satisfied because we are angry. Then you have to play as this woman you have grown to hate for like 10 hours only to play as her for 10 hours. I found this part unenjoyable and very unpleasant, not to mention the sex scenes and other unneeded fillers.

    My Conclusion
    If you skip what is above at least read this please, Naughty Dog it's truly sad to this happen there was no need to do this after 7 years so eager getting chills hearing Gustavo Santaolalla's guitar only to come to a game that is so focused on a character and useless messages that have nothing to do with what the real game is about and that's Joel and Ellie and if you didn't see that in the first game you are obviously blinded from repeatedly feeding the community **** sequels and calling it art. :/
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  99. Jun 26, 2020
    9
    I personally think this game doesn't deserve 0 or 1 rating. Its really harsh rating. It's one of the best graphics, combat and stealth game I have played in a long time. It's a masterpiece on PS4. Yes I agree that forcing to play as Abby for half of the game is not fair and with her fight with Ellie I purposely died many times and wanted to put down my controller. But game doesn't allowI personally think this game doesn't deserve 0 or 1 rating. Its really harsh rating. It's one of the best graphics, combat and stealth game I have played in a long time. It's a masterpiece on PS4. Yes I agree that forcing to play as Abby for half of the game is not fair and with her fight with Ellie I purposely died many times and wanted to put down my controller. But game doesn't allow you to do that. Having said that the some combat sequences of Abby on Day 3 in Seattle were awesome. I would have given 10 out of 10 but because of the fact that I had to force play abby for almost 10 hours in the game I will give 9. Expand
  100. Jun 19, 2020
    0
    Absolutely disgusting game, disgusting people in charge, and disgusting companies giving this game a perfect score. Neil Druckman is the most ego centrical game director ive ever seen and i will never support one of his products
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Universal acclaim - based on 121 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Negative: 0 out of 121
  1. Sep 13, 2020
    90
    The Last of Us Part II is the high point of the PlayStation 4. The plot is controversial, but the game is the incredibly addictive adventure of Ellie, from which it is impossible to pull away from the opening and to the very end.
  2. Sep 5, 2020
    93
    Not everyone is going to enjoy the motives of The Last of Us Part II. But if you try and manage to accept the subliminal and not so subtle messages as a fact that the world has gone awry and that people have the need to have somewhere or someone to belong to as their own way out, then... You will witness the boundaries of gaming expand. You will witness a true masterpiece.
  3. Game World Navigator Magazine
    Sep 3, 2020
    75
    If you loved the original for its great characters and well-paced story – stay away from this game. However, if you’re aching to sink into the depths of depression, or just want to cut some throats and burn some zombies – Part II will deliver. [Issue#247, p.72]