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  1. Aug 24, 2017
    7
    Yes, Batman is Telltale by-the-numbers, but it is still very enjoyable. The story is solid and there is no shortage of action pieces and plot twists. Batman is a good character to bring into the "choose your own adventure" format of storytelling. Unfortunately the game engine is old and clunky, so what felt impressive in 2012 feels downright ugly in 2017. Some of the animation is wonky andYes, Batman is Telltale by-the-numbers, but it is still very enjoyable. The story is solid and there is no shortage of action pieces and plot twists. Batman is a good character to bring into the "choose your own adventure" format of storytelling. Unfortunately the game engine is old and clunky, so what felt impressive in 2012 feels downright ugly in 2017. Some of the animation is wonky and the frame rate is downright terrible. The technical side of things is embarrassing, considering how long they've kept at these games. Luckily there are also some improvements in effects and character modelling. More than that, the cinematography of the scenes is beautiful, and the fast-paced editing feels professional. Thanks to its well-structured plot, interesting storytelling and good cinematography, Batman feels like another solid entry in the Telltale canon, even if we've seen it all done before. Expand
  2. Jan 4, 2017
    7
    THis game is fun if you are watching it, but holy crap are the controls attrocious. As a game this is hardly anything more than an interactive story. I lked it tho.
  3. Sep 28, 2019
    7
    +Great story
    +Some excellently choreographed 'action scenes'
    +Excellent voice acting -Glitchy telltale game engine bugs -Visuals are very ps3/360 gen I enjoyed this immensely! The narrative was so engaging, the problems with the game engine and weak graphics really stand out. ... The real shame is that telltale never invested in significant graphical improvements to their game
    +Great story
    +Some excellently choreographed 'action scenes'
    +Excellent voice acting
    -Glitchy telltale game engine bugs
    -Visuals are very ps3/360 gen

    I enjoyed this immensely! The narrative was so engaging, the problems with the game engine and weak graphics really stand out. ... The real shame is that telltale never invested in significant graphical improvements to their game engine, if it were a car engine then there would definitely be smoke pouring out from under the hood ...
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  4. Jan 29, 2017
    7
    This new Telltale series is about a myth of the pop culture, Batman ! Needless to say the expectations were high. Did the game meet them ?

    Technically each episode suffered from various glitch, sometimes even freeze which is unacceptable for an interactive story and a studio with so much experience in this domain. It's probably because they improved their engine a lot which offers much
    This new Telltale series is about a myth of the pop culture, Batman ! Needless to say the expectations were high. Did the game meet them ?

    Technically each episode suffered from various glitch, sometimes even freeze which is unacceptable for an interactive story and a studio with so much experience in this domain. It's probably because they improved their engine a lot which offers much nicer graphics (very close to an actual comic) but I'd have preferred a flawless game with the older graphics.

    The gameplay is the same that in every Telltale game, meaning you'll choose different course of actions/dialogues as the story unfolds. You'll pass the action sequences with QTEs. It's not really a movie, it's not a full gaming experience neither, it's something in between like all their games and not everybody will like this.

    The story is a new interpretation of a young Batman (he doesn't know any of the classic super villain yet) with their own new touch. The extremely rich lore of Batman offers a infinity of scenarios possible and on this point the game doesn't disappoint, unfortunately there will be some moments that don't mean much. But the biggest disappoint is how little your decisions will change the events and you'll have to wonder if there's really a choice. In addition the game is very short (between 1 hour and 1 hour and half for each episode) when you remember that for their first games it was 2 hour per episode and a lower price tag it hurts a bit.

    In conclusion this series will please Batman and Telltale fans despite multiple bugs and a short story that doesn't change that much depending of the choices. But if you don't know how Telltalle games work there are better options to try it out.
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  5. Dec 19, 2016
    7
    Although not as prolific as the Walking Dead series, Batman is a super interesting take on the Dark Knight. Choose between being an insanely violent Batman, or the Batman with "rules", and decide the direction of Gotham and its people. The only obstacle I faced when it comes to WANTING to play more was the first episode. The first episode is clearly an introduction to who Bruce WayneAlthough not as prolific as the Walking Dead series, Batman is a super interesting take on the Dark Knight. Choose between being an insanely violent Batman, or the Batman with "rules", and decide the direction of Gotham and its people. The only obstacle I faced when it comes to WANTING to play more was the first episode. The first episode is clearly an introduction to who Bruce Wayne and he came to be Batman. We all know how Bruce Wayne came to be Batman. I thought the introduction was completely redundant. That said, after that I was totally hooked. So many twists and turns, not to mention choices that really made me consider the consequences for. It was not easy. My biggest gripe is the engine. Outdated and inconsistent the so called Telltale tool engine is a "ball and chain" to telltale games. Horrid frame rates, consistent crashes and sometimes ridiculous lag spikes really take away from the overall experience. I just don't get it. This engine has been a problem for Telltale since the first Walking Dead season. Several series, and seasons later we are still seeing the same, which gives me the impression that Telltale just doesn't care. They really should because it is starting to show incompetence. Telltale games aren't doing anything technically demanding. It is simple as simple can be so my question is why? Why can't we get these games running as intended? Supposedly the engine used for Batman is a new engine yet here we are again. Ok. Rant over. Despite all of that, Batman is worth playing, and at 25 bucks its a lot of bang for your buck. A note to Telltale if they happen to see this: Please, Please, Please for the love of Christ, fix your engine! This is insane, and quite frankly there is just no excuse for this in 2016! Expand
  6. Nov 23, 2016
    7
    Someone here said they "miss the days when Telltale actual made games," and then said "A friend recently talked me into "playing" Wolf Among Us where I watched a movie and occasionally clicked my mouse." Meanwhile, they failed to acknowledge that "Wolf" was *one of Telltale's first story-driven games* after BttF.

    Telltale's had the same "storytelling formula" for years, and Batman:TTS
    Someone here said they "miss the days when Telltale actual made games," and then said "A friend recently talked me into "playing" Wolf Among Us where I watched a movie and occasionally clicked my mouse." Meanwhile, they failed to acknowledge that "Wolf" was *one of Telltale's first story-driven games* after BttF.

    Telltale's had the same "storytelling formula" for years, and Batman:TTS follows that formula. None of your choices *truly* affect the outcome in ways that are significant, but they are good writers, and you WILL be entertained. That said, they need to do something fresh with the formula, because it's 100% starting to get stale. Changing the settings and stories can only work for so long when it's obvious that the player's ability to actually influence the story is minimized by the system in which the story takes place. Just my opinion.
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  7. Dec 29, 2016
    7
    Good but not Great. I really had so many expectation with this game but only few were fulfilled. Telltale Batman is a good game with really good action scenes and good story but it didn't left any impact on the mind, I mean very few scenes I can remember from this game because I recently just finished it and by the time pass I may not remember that this game even exist. I'm not saying itsGood but not Great. I really had so many expectation with this game but only few were fulfilled. Telltale Batman is a good game with really good action scenes and good story but it didn't left any impact on the mind, I mean very few scenes I can remember from this game because I recently just finished it and by the time pass I may not remember that this game even exist. I'm not saying its a bad game, its just that I expected from this game to deliver just like Telltale did with Walking Dead Season 1 & 2 and also The Wolf Among Us.

    Batman in this game is really awesome and trust me He is the best thing in this game, Catwomen had her charm and was an interesting character, James Gordon didn't felt like a powerful character because he had less screen time, & Hervey Dent felt more of a beggar then a politician.

    Now don't get me wrong by telling about the characters because its just my perception about these characters maybe others who are playing may like them. There are some scenes where you get so much in to it because the scenes are so tense but this happens 2 or 3 times in this game.

    Story is good, Batman is amazing and the point where you have to create links is amazing because you get so much involve to find answers and when you do it feels really good.

    So the final verdict is that if you are a telltale series fan then you should definitely try this game because this Game may have its ups and downs but overall its a good game.
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  8. Jun 30, 2017
    7
    As a big Batman fan, I was really excited to finally have the chance to play this game, but unfortunately, the first couple of hours showcased some of its biggest flaws: it crashed twice, more than a few frame rate issues, and a couple of messy mechanics moments that annoyed me a little bit. But with that out of the way, after finally finishing the game a couple of days later, I found alsoAs a big Batman fan, I was really excited to finally have the chance to play this game, but unfortunately, the first couple of hours showcased some of its biggest flaws: it crashed twice, more than a few frame rate issues, and a couple of messy mechanics moments that annoyed me a little bit. But with that out of the way, after finally finishing the game a couple of days later, I found also its biggest strengths: a very engaging dive into the dark knight's persona, his emotional scars and the weight of his choices, some very nicely put story moments and some well handled branches that really feel meaningful. So all in all, Batman: A telltale series is a flawed game that nevertheless presents an overall well crafted story of the dark knight and it's probably the best game to handle the Bruce Wayne part of the character so far, and that barring a few disappointing moments, it does things well enough to satisfy me as a fan. Can't recommend for everyone though, specially if this point and click games aren't your thing, but if you are a Batman fan, pick it up, you won't regret it. Final verdict: 7.1 Expand
  9. Sep 19, 2019
    7
    Batman is not very good but not bad either. You can tell they have some talented writers. At times it is great but it never amazes you. I love the graphics and art direction. I did not like the detective parts. They were repetitive and boring.
  10. Sep 14, 2019
    7
    The story is great and really interesting, the style and atmosphere do fit Batman really well. For me this would have been a 9 but the PS4 Version has some serious technical issues from crashes, to huge texture glitches.
    It crashed 2 times on me, one time at the beginning of season 2 and another time in the final scene of the whole game which was really frustrating.
    So to sum it up:
    The story is great and really interesting, the style and atmosphere do fit Batman really well. For me this would have been a 9 but the PS4 Version has some serious technical issues from crashes, to huge texture glitches.
    It crashed 2 times on me, one time at the beginning of season 2 and another time in the final scene of the whole game which was really frustrating.
    So to sum it up:
    Game itself: 9/10
    Technical state: 3.5/10
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  11. Jun 22, 2020
    7
    Batman da Teltalle traz um mundo de Batman desconstruído que agrada, já a formula Teltalle se mostra saturada.
  12. Jan 8, 2018
    7
    Всё хорошо, но графика не очень и геймплей...
  13. Apr 28, 2018
    7
    A decent telltale game on Batman. Not the best Telltale's work but they did decent on this one
  14. May 24, 2018
    7
    juego típico de esta compañía muy sencillito no esta mal corto los 5 episodio que tenia
  15. Oct 6, 2020
    7
    What do you get when you mix the Caped Crusader, know for an amazing rogues gallery, being the greatest detective alive and a master hand-to-hand fighter with endless gadgets with Telltale's on-rails, choice-based storytelling? The answer is a decent story which focuses more on Bruce than his alter ego which both gains and struggles due to the constraints of the TellTale formula.

    The
    What do you get when you mix the Caped Crusader, know for an amazing rogues gallery, being the greatest detective alive and a master hand-to-hand fighter with endless gadgets with Telltale's on-rails, choice-based storytelling? The answer is a decent story which focuses more on Bruce than his alter ego which both gains and struggles due to the constraints of the TellTale formula.

    The Good - The story presents a nice twist on a good bunch of the Batman characters we all know and love and is engaging. It usually allows you to be the Batman you want to be and more than a few times showes you that your decisions actually do matter, tho not to the maximum extent one would wish.

    The Bad - An endless amount of graphical and audio bugs. Considering that this is far from a visually impressive game, there is 0 reason for there to be any bugs at all, let alone the absurd amount on display here. Storywise, the finale ends up being one of the weakest parts of the story, giving you a half-baked payoff to what could have been a legit emotional story. Also the Shadow Mode should be free considering it's a BW gimmick which only ever looked good 3-4 times during the whole game - very little effort was put into it.

    Verdict - Batman:The TellTale Series is a good if a bit disappointing game that allows you to be the Batman but only if your idea of Batman falls in line with one of their binary concepts of what the Caped Crusader should be. Meh ending aside, it's a story worth playing through. - 7/10
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  16. Mar 29, 2019
    7
    In general, I found it was a good story. It took classic Batman elements and told the story in a different way than we are used too. The only downside to it is that this is the only Telltale in which I felt my choices didn't matter. I replayed it and mostly there are small details that change but they don't deliver the same impact as other Telltale games.
  17. Jun 24, 2020
    7
    I am a huge fan of Telltale Games and their Batman isn't as great as The Walking Dead of The Wolf Among Us is but it was worth playing. It was nice to see a Batman game designed by Telltale Games.
  18. Dec 2, 2021
    7
    great story great narrative the choices you can make are interesting you can be an insanely brutal batman or batman with principles and rules and moral i enjoyed tales from the borderlands more and game of thrones but its a good batman game i totally recommend playing it
  19. Apr 27, 2022
    7
    It’s a good game to play for an alright story. Could’ve been better could’ve been worse
  20. Aug 25, 2022
    7
    Quick background on me the reviewer, I tend to like single player games that is heavy on narrative the most. I also play a lot of racing games and use to play multiplayer games in my high school days but now that it's hard for me and my friends to find a good time to link up so now I hardly play any. Up to try any genre of games and sometimes I find something new that I didn't think I'dQuick background on me the reviewer, I tend to like single player games that is heavy on narrative the most. I also play a lot of racing games and use to play multiplayer games in my high school days but now that it's hard for me and my friends to find a good time to link up so now I hardly play any. Up to try any genre of games and sometimes I find something new that I didn't think I'd like. I play on every platform but prefer PlayStation.

    I played this in Aug 2022 for the first time and enjoyed the story but there was a few times that characters should have been talking but it was silent along with parts that should had have music but once again silence. License expired? If it wasnt for that i would have probably given this game an eight. They did good job telling a Batman story.
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  21. Mar 27, 2017
    6
    muy buena historia me gusto que puede enfocarce mas en el personaje de bruce que en batman y como es un juego de Telltale simpre sera mas aburrido usar a batman y presinar botenes en quiq time events pero tiene un buen desarrollo la trama pero algunos personajes puedieron trabajar mas en ellos como harve el cual termine sitiedo que harve solo es un tonto.
  22. Feb 14, 2019
    6
    I enjoyed this game and story but the most important flaw is how it's ruined by bad performance and glitches.
    The game crashed 3 times for me on the same scene where it failed to load some shadows, first time that happens something like this to me on a console game. When I could get through the scene, the engine failed to properly load the hair of some characters.
    While high framerate is
    I enjoyed this game and story but the most important flaw is how it's ruined by bad performance and glitches.
    The game crashed 3 times for me on the same scene where it failed to load some shadows, first time that happens something like this to me on a console game. When I could get through the scene, the engine failed to properly load the hair of some characters.
    While high framerate is not that important in a game like this, it was so unstable that you couldn't just ignore it. I mean, it felt worse than Until Dawn but its visuals are nowhere near that game.
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  23. Jan 5, 2018
    6
    el juego está chulo como todos los juegos de Telltale, aunque técnicamente es muy pobre con fallos en los subtítulos y tirones de framerate incomprensibles para los gráficos tan básicos que tiene

    la historia va de más a menos, con buenos personajes y gran doblaje
  24. Feb 11, 2017
    6
    This game really disappointed me. I've been enjoying the batman universe a great deal lately. The arkham games, gotham the tv series, some of the animated movies and comics. I was excited to see telltale's take on the world of Batman. Having played the wolf among us I knew what to expect from the gameplay. Primarily quicktime events and decisions which affect the outcome of the story. ThatThis game really disappointed me. I've been enjoying the batman universe a great deal lately. The arkham games, gotham the tv series, some of the animated movies and comics. I was excited to see telltale's take on the world of Batman. Having played the wolf among us I knew what to expect from the gameplay. Primarily quicktime events and decisions which affect the outcome of the story. That was fine but what let me down was the story and presentation of characters.
    First of all, the game was a little too focused on Bruce Wayne. His ties to Harvey dent's mayoral campaign, problems with his company and issues surrounding the legacy of his parents. I'd prefer to see a stronger focus on Batman and a stronger version of Batman as well. He came off as being a little too sensitive at times, certainly not the dark, brooding figure i'm more familiar with.
    The villains weren't captured well either. Penguin was tall, slim and good looking. He didn't have his characteristic vicious attitude either and attempts to build interest in his character through flashbacks fell flat.
    The worst was probably the joker, the voice acting was pretty poor in comparison with Mark Hamill and he certainly didn't give the impression of being a psychotic genius bent on bringing Gotham to its knees.
    There's a new villain too acting as main offender in the series and they are just quite dull.
    By the end of the game I was quite happy it was over. It certainly wasn't terrible, just a wasted opportunity to tell a much richer story. There was never a real sense that Gotham was in danger or that Batman had lost anything. In the end victory came quite easily and with little sacrifice. If you'd like to try a good telltale game i'd recommend the wolf among us but not this. It's fun in parts but certainly nothing special.
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  25. Mar 15, 2017
    6
    This is in my opinion the worst telltale game, that doesn't mean the game is bad, the biggest problem of it is that it never gets very interesting or compelling like the other telltales games such as TWD, The wolf among us, GOT and borderlands. The story is quite simple and I was never surprised by anything beside one plot twist. If you like Telltale games you might want to pick this oneThis is in my opinion the worst telltale game, that doesn't mean the game is bad, the biggest problem of it is that it never gets very interesting or compelling like the other telltales games such as TWD, The wolf among us, GOT and borderlands. The story is quite simple and I was never surprised by anything beside one plot twist. If you like Telltale games you might want to pick this one up, but only if it is $15 or lower, and if you don't like them... well... you are not going to start liking them now. Expand
  26. Nov 6, 2017
    6
    This was the first Telltale game I have played, and that was probably a mistake considering that I have heard there are some really great ones out there like Tales from the Borderlands and The Walking Dead Series. All in all the game is an easy Platinum Trophy and the story is kind of weak, but I guess it is set up in a way to lead into more Batman stories. Finding out Lady Arkham's backThis was the first Telltale game I have played, and that was probably a mistake considering that I have heard there are some really great ones out there like Tales from the Borderlands and The Walking Dead Series. All in all the game is an easy Platinum Trophy and the story is kind of weak, but I guess it is set up in a way to lead into more Batman stories. Finding out Lady Arkham's back story was surprising and a bit grim. Like other TT games, there will be no reason to replay this again unless you have someone in your household that has not played it yet. **My review is based off of the disc version of the game and is scored slightly lower than my review for the XBox One version due to some of the episodes starting off very sluggish and choppy before the game engine catches up with it.** Expand
  27. Mar 1, 2018
    6
    Hikaye = 7
    Oynanış = 6
    Grafikler = 5
    Sesler = 6
    Keyif = 6
    Atmosfer = 6
    Süre = 6
  28. May 15, 2020
    6
    Played this as I got it free a while ago for being a playstation plus member. Man, it was quite disappointing to be honest. Lackluster story, quite obvious plot. I do like a Telltale game, something that tells a story, is no effort to play where your choices have consequences. Something to play if you're tired and want to chill out to. However this ones quite dull, but as a Batman fanPlayed this as I got it free a while ago for being a playstation plus member. Man, it was quite disappointing to be honest. Lackluster story, quite obvious plot. I do like a Telltale game, something that tells a story, is no effort to play where your choices have consequences. Something to play if you're tired and want to chill out to. However this ones quite dull, but as a Batman fan still has a few cool moments. DO Not let this game put you off of the second season called Batman The Enemy Within. That season is brilliant and is I'm my top 3 Telltale games yet! Expand
  29. Feb 12, 2020
    6
    The villain was kinda weak and meh and its still a telltale game soooo. Still pretty interesting batman story. I was surpised by how gritty and brutal it was in a good sense.
  30. Feb 8, 2022
    6
    I am a huge Batman fan. I love the character and have enjoyed all other Telltale games I've played. I don't mind the copious amount quick time events or the lack of impactful choices that their games typically feature. I'll be writing a short review for each episode giving them all a score. Then I'll use the average score (rounding up) to dictate the final score for Batman: The TelltaleI am a huge Batman fan. I love the character and have enjoyed all other Telltale games I've played. I don't mind the copious amount quick time events or the lack of impactful choices that their games typically feature. I'll be writing a short review for each episode giving them all a score. Then I'll use the average score (rounding up) to dictate the final score for Batman: The Telltale Series developed by Telltale Games (obviously).

    EPISODE 1: I really enjoyed this episode from start to finish. It was well balanced as well as paced. The acting was incredible particularly from the brilliant Troy Baker as Bruce/Batman and Richard McGonagle as the main villain Carmine Falcone. Baker has an excellent range, I mean he voiced Batman twice, Joker twice, Robin and even Two-Face for crying out loud. Hearing him deliver, "write it down, now" in a Conroy-esc voice and tone sent shivers down my spine. Perfect casting.

    I'm definitely interested in the takes Telltale has on these villains particularly Penguin who has a shockingly lean and lanky build for the character. Overall the atmosphere is thick and the story is well written and engaging. Telltale clearly has a great understanding of The Batman lore and isn't afraid to be bold and show their own takes on these beloved characters. That makes me excited for what's to come.

    I really enjoyed the detective aspects of this episode as well. Often Batman stories forget that The Caped Crusader is in fact "the world's greatest detective". It was fun to connect the dots and piece together mysteries. The soundtrack is moody and full of gravitas embodying the dark, heroism that Batman embodies. It's up there with Walker's theme for me honestly.

    I must say though, it didn't seem like my choices affected the outcomes of this episode much. As an example, I thought I was wise refusing to shake Falcone's hand at the manor but it didn't seem to make a difference in the end. Maybe these choices will pay off later. Even if my choices don't make a noticeable mark and even if Telltale's opening phrase "The game series adapts to the choices you make. The story is tailored by how you play" is perhaps exaggerated I enjoyed the opening to Batman: The Telltale Series. I give it a 7/10.

    EPISODE 2: Immediately this episode establishes a darker more sombre tone. Exploring the fractured, damaged psyche of Bruce and the duality he is forced to confront as the situation gets more personal and tense.

    Episode 2 seems positively more choice based as a Telltale game should be. There is even an interesting choice given to the player on whether or not to tackle a situation as Bruce or Batman. It becomes apparent this is a younger Batman, early in his career, rash, violent and more headstrong. Some of the plot developments were very interesting and the relationship between Bruce and Alfred is as gripping and tear-jerking as ever. I also really enjoyed the stylistic choice of giving Penguin a creepy, realistic and grungy mask.

    This episode is definitely shorter than the previous one. And the pacing, though still tight, is poor in some places. In particular, there was some lacklustre, half-baked sections of detective work which let me down since I really enjoyed those scenes in the previous episode.

    I wasn't a fan of how they tackled Batman's fight scenes. I understand him taking the less stealthy approach considering the point in his career but he simply felt too powerful in the fight scenes. Don't get me wrong, the choreography is brilliant and the action is fun to watch play out but he barely ever takes a hit and only suffers minor setbacks. What makes Batman such an inspiring character in the DC universe is that he is only human. He takes hits, physically and emotionally, he bleeds and loses but he keeps getting up to fight for what's right. All in all, I enjoyed this episode immensely if a little less than the previous one due to a shorter run time, some jarring tonal shifts, less variation and some graphical glitches. I also cannot wait to see how a major final choice on whether to save Harvey or Selina impacts future episodes. I'll give this one a 6/10.

    EPISODE 3: I'm running out of space to write in depth reviews of each chapter so I'll keep things brief. The 3rd episode had be truly invested in the plot. My criticism with the previous episode was that Batman felt invincible and unstoppable which made him less relatable and the villains less threatening this was remedied in this episode with Batman suffering a crushing setback psychically and mentally. I'm loving Selina and Harvey's character arcs. I'm not sure how to feel about the truly shocking final twist as of yet. I'm so engaged in the plot and can't wait to see where it goes next. My choices didn't seem to affect this episode much unfortunately. Better than episode one but only just so it still gets a 7, but a high seven. 7/10

    EPISODE 4: I'm running out of space. Great episode. 6/10

    EPISODE 5: 5/10
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Mixed or average reviews - based on 11 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 2 out of 11
  2. Negative: 0 out of 11
  1. Feb 24, 2017
    85
    Batman: The Telltale Series started strong and ended the same way, and with many characters’ fates left undecided and new characters appearing in the final act, a second season seems inevitable — I look forward to it.
  2. Playstation Official Magazine UK
    Feb 19, 2017
    50
    An underwhelming Batman game, but a great Bruce Wayne one. A satisfying counterpart to Rocksteady's Arkham games, but it won't win over Telltale naysayers. [Feb 2017, p.93]
  3. Feb 7, 2017
    70
    With so many Dark Knight adventures in our movies, TV, comics, and video games, you have to do something special to stand out. In the first few episodes, it looked like Batman: The Telltale Series might actually bottle lightning and create something excellent. But as the finale rolls in, it series fails to separate itself from the many Batman outings we’ve already experienced elsewhere.