Payday 2

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4.0

Generally unfavorable reviews- based on 3970 Ratings

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  1. d4haxor
    Nov 21, 2015
    0
    This dev has completely lost their mind and only cares about pinching their fans for every dime they can, This game went from decent to literally the worst game on earth. STAY FAR AWAY!
  2. onalhurre
    Nov 20, 2015
    0
    this game sucks so hard they are never going to fix anything and it is almost impossible to play the game without buying 150 dlc's and then you can still waste another 20 bucks to gain a skin with stat boost which brings your weapon over the breakpoint.
    going over the breakpoint is insane cause you now only need 1 shot instead of 2 but that's the reason why to spend 20 bucks...
  3. Darkshadows9776
    Nov 20, 2015
    0
    Overkill flat out lied to the player base when they said no microtransactions. We already have more than $100 in DLC on top of the base game, but apparently that's not enough money. Don't get me wrong, this game is fantastic and still one of my favorites, but when the company lies like that, then talks down to the community for being angry, I just have to stop playing. Do not give any moreOverkill flat out lied to the player base when they said no microtransactions. We already have more than $100 in DLC on top of the base game, but apparently that's not enough money. Don't get me wrong, this game is fantastic and still one of my favorites, but when the company lies like that, then talks down to the community for being angry, I just have to stop playing. Do not give any more money to Overkill; they don't deserve any money.… Expand
  4. Pay2winDay
    Nov 20, 2015
    0
    This year's Crimefest checklist:
    a) Free microtransactions update and **** weapon rebalance - shotguns are less worth than dog poop now;
    b) **** masks; c) A port of Brave New World from Cod Ghosts renamed to Aftershock; d) Stealth and Loud filter (meh, i guess day 4 was decent) e) A bipod attachment and a new MG ( MG is fine, but bipod is useless for difficulties like Overkill and    This year's Crimefest checklist:
    a) Free microtransactions update and **** weapon rebalance - shotguns are less worth than dog poop now;
    b) **** masks;
    c) A port of Brave New World from Cod Ghosts renamed to Aftershock;
    d) Stealth and Loud filter (meh, i guess day 4 was decent)
    e) A bipod attachment and a new MG ( MG is fine, but bipod is useless for difficulties like Overkill and Deathwish, where you need to be constantly moving around if you want to stay alive.)
    f) The most overplayed heist from PDTH and drill drops which have a drop chance from nill to slim
    g) Preferred character selection of up to 4 characters. If your favourite character (for example Dallas) is selected it switches to your 2nd one (for example Hoxton). Its good, but it would have been better to just select the character you want while you wait in lobby.
    h) More **** masks and **** turret rebalance.
    i) Slaughterhouse port.I liked day 9. Slaughterhouse is my favourite PDTH heist.
    j) Useless jump animation.    … Expand
  5. ojetemoreno
    Nov 19, 2015
    0
    Overkill makes Bad decisions that f*k a great game. A tons of DLC 's and adding micro transactions made it ( they said they wouldn't). Don't buy it, stay strong.
  6. Nake
    Nov 19, 2015
    0
    Good game, bad developers, liar Almir Listo.
    Hackers, microtransactions, no interest by users and the community, 33 debuff and useless DLCs, no transparency, no one believes them, the game was murdered by the developers.
  7. Tornado130
    Nov 18, 2015
    0
    Very bad game with very bad developers, very bad characters like john wick, very bad microtransactions very bad graphics, very bad everything. You are very bad person if you play this very bad game.
  8. Jammerock2000
    Nov 18, 2015
    0
    This game has been ruined due to lie after lie from the developers. Not only have they ignored the community time and time again, ruined the work of many modders and community members (such as PD2stats), but continued to promise that they would listen to the community. The amount of content in this game blatantly locked away behind DLC is just astounding, and on top of that the game is A.)This game has been ruined due to lie after lie from the developers. Not only have they ignored the community time and time again, ruined the work of many modders and community members (such as PD2stats), but continued to promise that they would listen to the community. The amount of content in this game blatantly locked away behind DLC is just astounding, and on top of that the game is A.) not free (understandable, one-time pay for a game is fine) but also B.) full of microtransactions that don't just affect how weapons look, but also give stat boosts, and chances of exp/money boosts.

    This isn't even scratching the surface of the bad practices the developer has done, and because of it I leave this negative review.    … Expand
  9. Rampage470
    Nov 18, 2015
    0
    Why on God's green earth would they add microtransactions? Seriously, the game is raking the dough as it is, you have to add THOSE as well? Geez. Oh and now of course the thing that cost 20 bucks and was supposed to be cosmetic only has stat boosts.

    **** you, Overkill.
  10. Superior97
    Nov 18, 2015
    0
    This game has completely been ruined by overkills greed and terrible business decisions
    I had racked up over 700 hours into this game but I honestly wouldn't recommend it to anyone
  11. Muuvinki
    Nov 18, 2015
    0
    It used to be such a good game before developers decided to go full retard.
    They added p2w skins to the game which for example makes pistols now stronger than most rifles.

    At its current condition this game should no longer be played or supported in any way. Walk away don't look back.
  12. Kaleson
    Nov 16, 2015
    1
    Good game.
    Used to be. Before Overkill introduced microtransactions and skins that boost guns' stats. Despite claiming they hate them and that they will NEVER cripple their game with MTs. Dick move, OVK, dick move.
    Oh, and there are also DLCs with owerpowered weapons like flamethrower, minigun or RPG.
    1/10 just because it's still fun. Sort of.
  13. Martin1
    Nov 16, 2015
    0
    A good game that has been degraded into a money making scheme by greedy devs. Milking the gamers, first with almost monthly dlc containing the best weapons and perks. Now a crate system which means spending money for a random item that may or may not improve your weapons.
  14. plebbot
    Nov 16, 2015
    0
    Overkill have **** the whole community over with update after update after update. The community outrage has been insane and how do overkill respond? More microtransactions.
  15. Crazy6a3er
    Nov 16, 2015
    0
    Before the **** started, I would highly recommend to everyone to at least try this game because of its awesome Co-op experience.

    Now, I will say stay the hell out of this game at all times! Why the sudden change? Here's the most recent reasons why I give this game a pretty and red "0": - Microtransaction with stat boosts which affect the balance of the game even though it's P2E.    Before the **** started, I would highly recommend to everyone to at least try this game because of its awesome Co-op experience.

    Now, I will say stay the hell out of this game at all times! Why the sudden change? Here's the most recent reasons why I give this game a pretty and red "0":

    - Microtransaction with stat boosts which affect the balance of the game even though it's P2E. Overkill/Almir promised us that there would be NO MICROTRANSACTION in Payday 2(shame on you if you thought otherwise. That rings a bell, huh?). Even the reasons he given couldn't justify what he had done to community(Google it if you really wanna know).

    -The COMPLETELY OVERKILL PACK. This pissed me off the most since I'd paid $20 just to "support" Overkill innocently and what did we get? Only 1 out of 25 weapon skins and every weapon skin is horrendous with stat boosts which Overkill claimed that they were crafted with "love and care" and promised they were only cosmetic. *Double facepalm*

    These 2 most recent cases show how Overkill treat the community with dishonesty and **** I recognize that the purpose of company is to earn profit but this is not how you earn it by lying to your loyal customers and treat them like walking wallets.

    What's done is done, what's done will be done. GG Overkill.    … Expand
  16. Rowdyvds
    Nov 16, 2015
    0
    It's my most played game in steam and I used to love it, but they ruined the game by adding microtransactions which they promised multiple times not to add.
  17. sumsum
    Nov 16, 2015
    0
    It was such an awesome game. I loved playing it and the game was so balanced in the beginning. It was awesome they kept updating the game with new content. But now they have just ruined the game totally, wanting money for everything and the game is so unbalanced that the game is totally unplayable. They have added so many bad things and updates to the game that its not worth playing itIt was such an awesome game. I loved playing it and the game was so balanced in the beginning. It was awesome they kept updating the game with new content. But now they have just ruined the game totally, wanting money for everything and the game is so unbalanced that the game is totally unplayable. They have added so many bad things and updates to the game that its not worth playing it anymore.
    Overkill you have shot yourself in the foot real good, and it seems you just continue to do that.    … Expand
  18. Jozefson
    Nov 16, 2015
    0
    Just a big NOPE after Greedfest 2015, adding MT and the COP dlc fiasco. It's sad that because core game is good, but the **** around it makes it hard to enjoy.
  19. Blonk
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    Was pretty decent despite engine limitations, until micro transactions and donation begging started. Not to mention the lying about DLC and the inclusion of MT's.
  20. doubleplus
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    A once decent game let down by developers who are either incompetent or just outright dishonest. If you like the idea of seeing most weapons, heists and masks held behind as DLC on top of microtransactions for skins with stat boosts, Payday 2 is for you.
  21. Ckazochnik
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    This game supposed to be fun coop shooter. It really was until the devs became lazy **** which released a ton of bagged content and ten tons of paid DLC (€110+ of worth). Like it wasn't enough, they have released a micro-transaction system.

    The 1st, they promised us to don't put the micro-transactions in the game. The golden «shame on you if you thought otherwise!». The 2nd, the    This game supposed to be fun coop shooter. It really was until the devs became lazy **** which released a ton of bagged content and ten tons of paid DLC (€110+ of worth). Like it wasn't enough, they have released a micro-transaction system.

    The 1st, they promised us to don't put the micro-transactions in the game. The golden «shame on you if you thought otherwise!».

    The 2nd, the system is using the casino-style drop-roulette that means you probably will not get the item that you wanted exactly.

    The 3rd, most of items looks like a junk. Give your child a paint spray and a gun and you will get the same result. Moreover, you can scrap your fresh painted gun with a rasp because in the game you will get a random item with the random skin and the random QUALITY. But it's not over yet. If you got a DLC-item, you have to buy this DLC to use this item (remember about €110+).

    The 4th. Weapons that you got with micro-transactions is actually stronger than the regular variant. At this point it started to be Pay 2 Win.

    The 5th. Skins provide for you and your team XP and MONEY BOOST. More guys with the painted guns you have – stronger boost you get. Just think of it: you can be kicked from the lobby for not buying the random **** for your real money. It actually happened.

    We have a good game that ruined buy the lie, greed and sloth.    … Expand
  22. Tsyolin
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    Want to know what the best example of bad business practices by a game dev is? You're looking at it. Seriously, never before has any game community/dev relationship gone south this quickly... and for a damn good reason.
  23. binarycoder
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    I purchased the base game, then every DLC up to the BBQ Pack. This is a great game, but at a certain point it just isn't affordable, and now there is more than just the monthly DLC. I am unhappy with the way that Overkill has managed the content updates for this game.

    I will update this review at a point that I WOULD recommend this game.
  24. NinjaSloth
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    Honestly, not that good, unless you like insane powercreep with lots of DLC's which were essentially microtransactions and now are literally micrtransactions. Do not recommend.
  25. Da_Bozz
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    They promised to never add microtransactions to the game when they launched it. But Overkill's greed was stronger, and with the last update they added a microtransaction market. It's so easy to destroy a good game.
  26. Falcon87456
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    ded gaem ded thread

    thx 4 too much dlc and microtransactions

    basically they **** it up, big time. They said no microtranscations, then added microtransactions on top of a heap of DLC. Hope you wanted to spend $150 for the whole game!
  27. CastrolGTX
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    This feels like shooting my own dog, but Overkill has become every other game studio and can't be treated with kid gloves anymore. Once upon a time there was a small, independent game studio that emerged from Grin which was dicked over by a contract default. They made a successful game, PDTH, and the sequel was more successful than their wildest dreams, making millions in profits byThis feels like shooting my own dog, but Overkill has become every other game studio and can't be treated with kid gloves anymore. Once upon a time there was a small, independent game studio that emerged from Grin which was dicked over by a contract default. They made a successful game, PDTH, and the sequel was more successful than their wildest dreams, making millions in profits by pre-order only. They were successful because they really were the mythical regular-guys developer that actually interacted with its community, and got a big help from that community in word-of-mouth marketing by devoted fans. Fans built this game and this company. They're the ones who got the game started and continued to buy DLC clinging to the small-indepedent-developer line until it became undeniably false.

    Overkill has cashed in every last drop of devotion from the fans who created it. They continued the regular frequency DLC model to manipulate fans into supporting them, then released microtransactions to double dip. They only work on DLC while ignoring simple fixes and bugs, they promise things that take literally years to get a half-♥♥♥♥♥ copout release, if at all, they nerf DLC content after release, and they've rebalanced (nerfed) specific weapons with the sole motivation of creating a wider pool of weapons that people may want to buy skins for rather than actual gameplay reasons.

    Overkill does not care about you. Treat them like EA or Ubisoft from now on.    … Expand
  28. Akuba
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    The Developers of Payday 2 lied alot to the own community. Even when they promised that they will listen, they managed it to f*ck their own community without lube ...
  29. KrzyzaK
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    I dont know what to say
    A game filled with bugs, DLC's and now micro-transactions.
    Avoid this game like cancer. Coincidentally cancer and payday 2 are similar now.
    Avoid buying this, just buy anything else, it's better.
  30. Blackjack21
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    The core game itself is good.However, Overkill has implemented pay2win micro transactions in a game where the base cost of the game plus all additional DLCs exceed that of AAA games.
  31. ctmp1234
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    The core game is very solid, especially with friends. But as the game aged, it has become a poorly optimised DLC fest, with a very unbalanced micro-transaction system.
  32. Basara
    Nov 15, 2015
    0
    I feel bad for new players, because this game was pretty fun before the micro-transactions and **** DLC.
    PAYDAY 2 has become a shake for money, and OVERKILL really doesn't care about their fans.
  33. edpots
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    TL;DR Overkill have made over $100 worth of DLC mandatory to do well in the game, and have added a pay2win skin system that has ruined the balance of the game.

    Overkill have made a once incredible game awful by releasing over $100 of DLC, a large portion of it being considered mandatory to do well in the game by the games community. If that wasn't bad enough, Overkill have added    TL;DR Overkill have made over $100 worth of DLC mandatory to do well in the game, and have added a pay2win skin system that has ruined the balance of the game.

    Overkill have made a once incredible game awful by releasing over $100 of DLC, a large portion of it being considered mandatory to do well in the game by the games community. If that wasn't bad enough, Overkill have added microtransaction skins in what is called "safes", basically CSGO or TF2 cases, but you can't sell these and you can get skins for guns you don't have the DLC for, forcing you to buy DLC to use skins you paid for. They **** up the balance of the game as the skins give boosts to your guns, giving you an edge over players who don't spend extra money (though that was already the case with the dlc's), making it pay to win. They also promised to not add microtransactions in the past.    … Expand
  34. Windrider37
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Microtransaction, and the Play to win system that ruins the game for most...it Just too Much. Not to Mention the Completely Overkill pack Ripoff that depressed the most Loyal fans that bought it...enough is enough.
  35. Kitty_Mercury
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Why not just bring a bad game's score down even lower if it truly deserves it? The developers decided to ruin the game one day, and they did a very good job at it.
  36. NimbleJack3
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Payday 2 is unfortunately now a wasteland of poor developer decisions. The game is now microtransaction-focused on top of purchasing the base game and the dozens of DLC packs. OVERKILL has no idea what they're doing, and they're running the game into the ground for money as they blindly stumble around trying to guess what players want instead of asking them.
  37. Barneys190
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Overkill does nothing but lie to their customers and rip them off. Do not support them. The micro transactions are bs because they promised they would never add them. The game has become pay2win.
  38. Konjus
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    aaaaaaaaaaaand I am done. COP turned out to be absolute bull. Microtransactions give already well off devs more money. No more. goodbye, 560 hours of my life.
  39. ProZabijaka
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Devs lied to us about microtransactions and made a lot of DLCs explainin they need money. Spoiler : they got 6 million dollars or more with just the game(?)
  40. xLambdaDeltax
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Overkill managed to destroy the game. They had a huge community with them. They had all they would dream of. Now they destroyed the game with P2W microtransactions and "balance". Dont even let me start on Completely Overkill Pack.

    Dont buy this game, dont support developers like them. In the end, they only care about the money.
  41. Mufm
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    I made a metacritic account just so I could give the game a negative review. Used to have lots of fun playing together, now the dev team is creating a culture of paying to win, kicking folks who don't have pay-to-win team boosting stats, at the sacrifice of their previously strong community. The game has lost its vision and gained pay-to-win.
  42. WepperPepe
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Played a lot this game when it was actually good.Overkill dont give a **** about what the gamers want, so im out. Pathetic servers lag everytime, the skins for the stupid microtransactions are plain stupid and childish, my game takes 4ever to open a **** gun menu. Congratulashuns overkill I promiss that i'll keep playing your game! (like you promissed there wouldnt be microstransactions)
  43. oMalakai
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    First, I still play this game. It's really fun to play with friends, it's challenging if you want to, and it's unique on it's genre.
    The bad part is the glitches, the bugs that never get fixed, the weapon balance, the fact that perks like Grinder exist, the RPG, and in general, the power creeps of the DLC's. Too many DLC's, the introduction of microstransactions, and the last magnificent    First, I still play this game. It's really fun to play with friends, it's challenging if you want to, and it's unique on it's genre.
    The bad part is the glitches, the bugs that never get fixed, the weapon balance, the fact that perks like Grinder exist, the RPG, and in general, the power creeps of the DLC's. Too many DLC's, the introduction of microstransactions, and the last magnificent move of Overkill on giving a really **** reward to it's biggest fans and older players. That's why it deserves a 0.    … Expand
  44. CrazyOneBAM
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    The gameplay is quite fun and I have had 1200+ hours of fun in Payday 2.

    The reason for why I score the game a firm 0 is with what the game has become and actions done by the developer Overkill Software. Overkill promised to not put microtransactions into the game, and they did put microtransactions into the game. Microtransactions for weapon skins that have a stat boost. Sure, not a    The gameplay is quite fun and I have had 1200+ hours of fun in Payday 2.

    The reason for why I score the game a firm 0 is with what the game has become and actions done by the developer Overkill Software.

    Overkill promised to not put microtransactions into the game, and they did put microtransactions into the game. Microtransactions for weapon skins that have a stat boost. Sure, not a big deal in a PvE coop, one might think, but the stat boosts can actually push the weapon over critical damage/stability/concealment thresholds. Then they rebalanced the game allegedly not around the stat boosts (but it is around the stat boosts) and into oblivion, so a pistol is more accurate and deals more damage than assault rifles with the proper pistol-skills (there are no damage enchancing skills for assault rifles). In short, microtransactions that make you better in a game is Pay2Win. Once I regarded Overkill as one of the developers that 'got it', now I regard Overkill as one of the most untrustworthy developers out there which also lack insight into what made their games great.

    The latest is that the stat boosts now is reduced and offers a boost to XP and Money for the team of up to four players. Which in turn means that if you find yourself in a lobby where 3 players have XP and money boosts, you are likely to be kicked if you do not have two XP and money boost weapons. That is not a fun game, it is not the Payday 2 I remember. It is exactly a game I do not want to play. Maybe you do, but I do not.    … Expand
  45. Porontobello
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Microtransactions and a p2w model ruined the game for a lot of players and lack of attention to community opinion just makes it worse. This game already was pretty repetitive in the first place, but managed to keep it's charm because of the updates and DLC's that demanded at least some level of work from the creators. Now it's just a cheap way to keep the game alive and make a buck on it.Microtransactions and a p2w model ruined the game for a lot of players and lack of attention to community opinion just makes it worse. This game already was pretty repetitive in the first place, but managed to keep it's charm because of the updates and DLC's that demanded at least some level of work from the creators. Now it's just a cheap way to keep the game alive and make a buck on it. Bad weapon skins giving advantages to the players that able to pay for it.… Expand
  46. ZyZo
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    TBH it's a fun game, but what they did with Microtransactions and stats on skins is just awful.
    Especially since they promised no microtransactions what so ever to be included in the game...
  47. kaliy
    Nov 14, 2015
    0
    Almost two years ago my friend recommended me Payday: The Heist. We spent a lot of hours doing few heists over and again. Although there were only 8 heists (I had only PS3 version so no No Mercy) they were completely different and interesting.
    Later we bought Payday 2 for PS3. We were impressive how many heists they made. Wow, there are 4 different bank heists! Later we realized that they    Almost two years ago my friend recommended me Payday: The Heist. We spent a lot of hours doing few heists over and again. Although there were only 8 heists (I had only PS3 version so no No Mercy) they were completely different and interesting.
    Later we bought Payday 2 for PS3. We were impressive how many heists they made. Wow, there are 4 different bank heists! Later we realized that they are the same. The same location is used for different heists. We were disappointed but it still was a fun game.
    3 months ago I bought Payday 2 on PS4 and were impressed how many new and fun heists they added. I enjoyed this game.
    Also I decided to try Payday 2 on PC. I had to wait for a sale because I didn't want to spend 100 euro on DLCs (the game itself costs 20 euros). Later I bought every single DLC for about 27 euros. So in total it's 47 euros on sale. You can buy few AAA titles on sale for this money.
    I didn't like the recent DLCs because they add nothing besides new weapons and masks and weapons shouldn't even be in Payday (come on, swords and bow for bank robbers?). Anyway, I knew that it's just an overkill way to get the money. Ok, that's their model and I accepted it.
    16th of October, 2015. They implemented microtransactions like in CS:GO, Dota or TF2. They went further and added stat boosts to the skins. They added microtransactions in a game that costs 120 euros.
    One month later they finally released completely overkill pack award. People were angry at overkill, the most loyal fans who bought COP asked overkill to at least remove stat boosts from skins. And then later overkill responded: "We added more stat boosts! Yaaaay!".
    That's it, I won't recommend this game to anyone anymore.    … Expand
  48. Ankmastaren
    Nov 14, 2015
    1
    What was once a great game that you could pour hours into with your friends has been drove into the ground by the shortsightedness of its developers… The promise given when purchasing this title has been reneged upon…
  49. crazybmanp
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    It was a good game, but the dev ruined it, and is completely untrustable. I can't suggest buying anything from overkill or starbreeze. The microtransactions they added are the worst i have ever seen, and the complete rip off that people who bought the completely overkill back got is just sad.
  50. Dankey-Kong
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    You know, this game used to be good.

    Used. Used is an interesting word. Its when the game was good, and how I feel at the same time. Let me run it down for you. In 2013, just before the game was released, the lead producer (or the "poster boy" of the company, OVERKILL) Almir, (we'll just call him Satan from now on) promised that there would be NO MICRO TRANSACTIONS of any sort in    You know, this game used to be good.

    Used.

    Used is an interesting word. Its when the game was good, and how I feel at the same time. Let me run it down for you.

    In 2013, just before the game was released, the lead producer (or the "poster boy" of the company, OVERKILL) Almir, (we'll just call him Satan from now on) promised that there would be NO MICRO TRANSACTIONS of any sort in PAYDAY 2. Then, he went on to say that no DLC for the game would be more than $5. That promise was quickly broken, but that doesn't matter, as now it was mixed between 5-7 dollars per DLC, and that was alright since they were bringing in bigger and better maps, as well as lowering the cost of older DLCs.

    Then came Infamy 2.0

    Infamy in PAYDAY is like prestige in CoD. You give up your level 100 status, skills, money, etc. and you have to earn it all again. In return, you earn an infamy point to spend in either extra total exp gained from heists, or a cool mask, or skill set requirements being lower. Now once again, OVERKILL and their poster boy, Almir (Satan) lied to us. They stated that Infamy 2.0 would NOT be just masks and a couple of exp boosts. After of which, Almir (Satan) said that he would discuss Infamy 2.0 and how to improve it according to community feedback.

    We're still waiting on Satan to talk with us. But then, around a month ago, OVERKILL finished digging their grave and started to assemble their coffin.

    OVERKILL and Almir (Satan), on the 4th birthday of the series, decided to implement Micro-transactions as a REWARD for the community. These were skins for your weapons. Remember when Almir (Satan) told us that there would be absolutely no microtransactions in PAYDAY?

    But that's not even the worst part. These skins are not cosmetic. They have an effect in-game. They add attributes like stability, accuracy, damage bonuses, etc. to your weapons, making you more powerful. So essentially, the game has become pay 2 win.

    Some may argue that the bonuses are insignificant, and while that is correct that they are small, the effect they have is astounding. One particular weapon has a damage of 62.9, and the breakpoint for 1 shot headshot kills is 63 damage. And guess what? There is a skin for that weapon that gives it +1 damage. This applies to many other weapons as well.

    Another factor to look at is that the skins also just look so **** They look like Almir (Satan) and his cronies went into MSPaint and had a colourgasm all over a model of the gun.

    A large portion of the player-base dropped after this. And you would think that OVERKILL would try to patch up the wound they created by shooting themselves in the foot. And they tried. Almir (Satan) hosted an AMA on Reddit. He discussed the recent changes and how to work with the community.

    It was essentially a massive **** you" to the community.

    So now, the ugly pay2win skins were here to stay on top of a $20 base price and over $120 worth of DLC.

    But today they hammered in the final nail in their coffin.

    Today they released the Completely OVERKILL Pack. The Completely OVERKILL Pack was a $20 DLC released during the Hype Train event in March this year. This gave the players 4 new masks and a "Secret Item to be revealed at a later date".

    To quote from OVERKILL themselves:

    "YOU will each receive an in-game package from an old friend. Wrapped in true virtual aluminum. Inside is an item randomly given to you from a limited collection of 25 items. It will be rare, it will be a true PAYDAY collectible. Each item is carefully crafted with love and respect for our hardcore OVERKILL supporters. As a thanks to you from us and from the rest of the community for making the Hype Train render so much BONUS content for millions of players standing by. This secret content is still being worked on and is the only content that won’t be released during the Spring Break. It will be released when we have given it the care and love that it deserves."

    They also stated it would be a purely cosmetic item, with no in-game advantage.

    Once again, they lied.

    We each got 1 of 25 weapon skins which looked pretty **** in my opinion, which we could sell on the steam community market. Yeah. A true PAYDAY collectible. Given the love it deserves.

    But not only that. They weren't cosmetic.

    Some of the skins gave stat bonuses, like stats and accuracy etc. But some give you bonuses on the amount of exp and cash that you get at the end of a heist. So you can easily be better than those without skins. Once again, OVERKILL and Almir (Satan) lied to us.

    They were a good company once. They listened. They were the one company who gave us a FOV slider within an hour of the game coming out in the beta version. They were the one company who gave us silly and fun achievements to do. They were the one company who made amazing live actions to promote their game.

    Now, they have simply stained their reputation and become another EA/Ubisoft.    … Expand
  51. s1ash__
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    A developer of lies and stupidity. Once who added features hours after demanded by their community to constantly digging for wallets. Stay away from this game or the developers.
  52. RSGMulder
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Overkill screwing the Completely Overkill Pack buyers and adding the safe (crate) gambling killed the game for me. I am not against paid skins (without the p2w), but in the way they do it now is really bad. Buyers should be able to choose what skin they get.

    Remove:
    Gambling
    Pay2Win
    Rarity (let users pick what they want)
    Skin conditions (let user pick what they want)
  53. daka029
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    the **** sake microtransaction in a paid game, even worst with tons of dlcs **** overkill u are not ashamed? "We've made it clear that Payday 2 will have no microtransactions whatsoever (shame on you if you thought otherwise!)" almir listo 2013 ;)
  54. dejavu1999
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Used to be a great game, but then Overkill had to **** over the entire community. Stating that there would be no micro transactions before the game's release, only to add them and try to hide anything they said about the topic.
  55. kevingmz
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    This game is the best example of what lazy greedy developers do, it's worse than Candy Crush in terms of money sucking potential vs. game content, avoid it like the plague. Just to be clear, let me say it again, DO NOT BUY THIS GARBAGE.
  56. zeldafan06
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Unfortunately I have to strongly recommend against buying this game due the recent rolling out of pay to win microtransactions. This, in addition to their piecemeal weapon dlc system, heist dlc, and character dlc despite promising no microtransactions ever, makes payday2 one of the worst pay to play games on steam.
  57. why_payday_why
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    A really great game. I loved to play it.
    First came the 'rebalancing' that weakened all the dlc weapons. Then came the first wave of micro transactions. Then the second (team stat boosts). And now I'm sad and confused on why they would end their own game this way. I don't get it. Overkill, pull yourself together.
  58. connor177
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    It's astounding how the developers could simply state that they would never have any microtransactions and then do a 180 and give the middle finger to the fans who have been supporting them throughout the entire life cycle of their first and second game. I tried waiting throughout this crimefest storm, thinking that they would fix it or that they would go back and remove this terribleIt's astounding how the developers could simply state that they would never have any microtransactions and then do a 180 and give the middle finger to the fans who have been supporting them throughout the entire life cycle of their first and second game. I tried waiting throughout this crimefest storm, thinking that they would fix it or that they would go back and remove this terrible microtransaction system. And then they released the Completely Overkill pack (content we've waited for almost a year for) and what is it? MORE SKINS. So I'm done, and this game is officially dead to me.… Expand
  59. Godofredo
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    It was all fun and games until Overkill´s greed **** everything up. As a veteran player thats been playing since day 1 I refuse to play and have uninstalled the game as a consequence of the microtransactions in the black market update. Thanks for you´r support Overkill
  60. Dielo
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Do not buy this game.... is a scam.... we paid 20 dollars for a dlc that was a scam (COP)....also they promised not to put microtransactions in the game.... was a lie, because they did... Payday 2 was a good game....
  61. Harkenstein
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    LONG STORY SHORT : Be wise and never buy any game from Starbreeze or Overkill if it's done in recent years or in future. All you get is false marketing and lies.

    Why? Well... This game used to be fun when it came out. Sure, it had it's bugs'n'glitches and quite many features were still missing but devs promised they would come. Years later, there are still bugs and some features are    LONG STORY SHORT : Be wise and never buy any game from Starbreeze or Overkill if it's done in recent years or in future. All you get is false marketing and lies.

    Why? Well...

    This game used to be fun when it came out. Sure, it had it's bugs'n'glitches and quite many features were still missing but devs promised they would come. Years later, there are still bugs and some features are still missing. It would not be that bad, because it used to be fun, but then they sold dozens of DLC's on it. Same thing happened, kinda, as with Killing Floor. But it wasn't so bad. Yeah game's about 30 euros and then you buy over 100 euros worth DLC, don't get everything they promised prior publishing BUT the game was still fun so it was bearable. Barely.

    Then they broke the game and last one of their promises. "There will be no microtransactions", they said. They did introduce it. It was not only cosmetic thing but with stats as well. In the same time they did something they called "weapon rebalance" which actually made all other guns than pistols vain. Shotguns were like throwing peabags to enemies, sniper rifles were vain because you just could use pistol with more ammo, higher firerate and scope, submachine guns were not that good to begin with and they pretty much stayed the same. Even assault rifles and LMG's were worse than pistols. So. They introduced microtransactions through which you could get RANDOM skin for random weapon, some of those skins with statboosts. And those guns, all else than pistols, were pretty much useless. Unless you got atleast bit of statboost which you might get by buying dozens of drills. So you've bought DLC's with many kind of guns, customized you guns for hours and then... it's all futile. You just can't get them work anymore, not even with customization. Devs got lots of negative feedback. Which they completely overlooked.

    But wait! It got even better! They sold these 20 euro worth "Completely Overkill Packs" which supposed to give somekind of nice unique cosmetic token. Guess what you got from them? Some RANDOM weapon skin :D Yeah. 20 euro's worth of weapon skin to, most likely, useless gun. They have lied and deceived their customers for years but this time it's been false marketing and deliberate breaking the game. Like getting the game as hostage.

    So I ended up playing this game, uninstalled it after 800+ hours of playtime, 100+ euros poorer. I'm not bitter, I'm not angry. Sometimes you just pay heavy price for trusting some companies. What can you do when you've learned your lesson? Warn others. Spread the word. I've done so. If you buy this game, or any other game they do, you're going to get ripped and robbed. In that case you can only yourself to blame since there's easily 30k+ angry fans spreading the word. Seriously. Don't buy it, not even in sale.    … Expand
  62. theeksdeman
    Nov 13, 2015
    1
    why overkill? I wasted so much on hope for something good in the cop and you giving me just a chance 1/25 that I would get only 1 bloody skin? I used to play and love ur game, but this bs with cop... no more ovk. no more dlc's. that would be great life.
    p.s "HOUSTON GOT A PROBLEM" EKS DE DE DE M9S, EKS DE DE DE
  63. isBullets
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Payday 2 promised at its inception in 2013 to never include microtransactions within their game, but today they have gone against that and added a CS:GO-like skin feature where you unbox them. This would almost be fine, if it weren't for the fact that these skins that you must pay to get, have better stats. Paired alongside the fact that they have slowly been adding DLCs that includePayday 2 promised at its inception in 2013 to never include microtransactions within their game, but today they have gone against that and added a CS:GO-like skin feature where you unbox them. This would almost be fine, if it weren't for the fact that these skins that you must pay to get, have better stats. Paired alongside the fact that they have slowly been adding DLCs that include weapons better than the base weapons and forcing users to buy it in order to achieve the strongest builds, I will be keeping my review of this game negative until there is a change by Overkill about all of this. It is a fun game, don't get me wrong, but they have slowly been teetering towards a crash they should be able to see from miles away, and is a wake-up call.

    And now, even more fun, as of 11/13/15. As a reward for those players that decided to support them by basically donating 20 dollars, and having to wait months and months and months after each and every setback, they were given, you guessed it, a skin. And this can be horrible quality, while another can be good quality and have ANOTHER stat boost that increases experience and money gained. Most of the skin look horrendous, and somehow it has taken them this long to create them.

    This is how they treat loyal players. They give them everything they don't want as thanks for being here for so long, and feed off of the new players that don't know any betters. As of the writing of this, 3 Steam Mods of the Payday 2 forums have refused to moderate anymore, due to Overkill not listening and due to DEATH THREATS. This is getting out of hand on both sides, and it, again, could have been avoided.    … Expand
  64. fukoverkill
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    I'd be very very happy if you read the review, just read some of the parts below, that's all I experienced in this game. Thank you very much.

    Me and this game had been quite a journey, a long journey of reviewing. I just can't figure it out if it's a good game or a bad game. I've had it like almost 11 months. This is the first longest review ever. Pros: Soundtracks: Hands straight    I'd be very very happy if you read the review, just read some of the parts below, that's all I experienced in this game. Thank you very much.

    Me and this game had been quite a journey, a long journey of reviewing.
    I just can't figure it out if it's a good game or a bad game. I've had it like almost 11 months.
    This is the first longest review ever.

    Pros:
    Soundtracks: Hands straight down, the soundtracks in this game that's what it keeps live. And then Simon Viklund left.

    More customization: Guns and mods, masks with paintings, are all available for customizing. (Just look at the about the low quality in actual third person models.) It's patched, but bots are still using low quality.

    Stealth features: If you kill/bag a security guard while the other person saw him, or break glass/camera, or you let the civilians stay alone while in stealth, they all will call and bring the cops, and know that there's something wrong. It's really amazing, no games have features like this.

    Mods support

    Development support: The game is updated every 2-3 weeks, which is very great to keep the game fresh and updated. This is why we still keep playing the game.

    Cons:
    Bad Graphics:
    It's terrifying, just look at the third person guns, they're absolute like quake's guns (PATCHED, they partially fixed it, specifically, they added an option for it???). the post process is always on and can't be turned off, and yet it makes THIS game slow
    as a **** Most important of all, maybe it's just not me really, the textures of this game are
    just like GTA SA's textures. I can barely see bad textures like the security guard's sleeveless
    arms, hot dogs arms, atleast add hairy textures. Or the puddle.

    Raped FPS:
    Logically, the graphics is horrible, then how come my PC can't meet the requirements
    of this game? How GTA V ran on my PC so smooth without FPS issues? I'm 100% serious and I'm
    not the only one.

    Downloadable Contents:
    Let's see, since CLOVER + Diamond, or JIRO + Gage Ninja Pack, SOKOL + Golden Grin came out on the same day, they are separated. THEY ARE SEPARATED. I MEAN A NEW CHARACTER IS FIT IN THE NEW HEIST TOGETHER IN THE SAME DAY THEY RELEASED, BUT THEY ARE SEPARATED! Let's not forget that each new DLCs come out every months. Let's talk about what kind of retarded DLCs I've mentioned. One have bows, flamethrower, grenade launcher and swords, shurikens. It gets better. Lethal cards.

    Wait, I thought it's supposed to be a realistic heist shooter? I know what you're probably thinking, me **** Wrong. I own every DLCs except the retarded contents. I'm still buying DLCs.

    Bugs -
    There's ALOT, AND ALOT of bugs that this game I'd embarrassed to label it as "Early Access", I'm not going to list it here because maybe OVERKILL would remove them here in this review. Fix everything god damnit! I'm just very worried what will happen in 2017 when OVERKILL leave. God knows how many cheaters there'll be. I'm very worried.
    Cheaters: There are MANY 6 year olds hackers. Little **** always ruin everything. OVERKILL, it's
    your responsibility to fix these bugs you lazy piece of **** the van will also gets its Overkill icon.

    Host games
    "Player is joining the game". "Connection to host has been lost". I know, thank f***ing God in Payday 2 the loading is now faster than PD:TH. But it's still pretty ♥♥♥♥ing annoying to wait a few seconds while doing objectives then forgot what to do. And now this, whenever a host left, the game lobby is closed forcing everyone to leave. Just remove this feature for ♥♥♥♥s sake. MY POINT IS HERE, make a public party game without local host like in L4D, PLEASE!

    Lack of animations
    98.99% This game is about interacting things like lockpicking, taking money, fixing saw, planting things and opening doors. Bots can do anything like parkour, reviving teammates and even do the infamous Heat speech.

    CRIMEFEST 2015. Obviously.

    Two years ago, you said "We've made it clear that PAYDAY 2 will have no micro-transactions whatsoever (shame on you if you thought otherwise!" And they have lied. This pile of sh!thole micro-transactions introduced on Crimefest 2015 (Specifically, the challenge said four players must loot 4 cards in one game at the end of heist count by 1, and the goal was to reach 5,000,000 loot cards). The micro-transactions is about reskinned weapons, and they have boosted stats. Then, the rewards, we spent many hours of blood sweating, hardworking and waste our lives for challenges to get rewards. We finally have managed to complete all of it. Result for rewards? We recieve 1-2 horrible rewards DAILY. We got a few of unnecessary masks, stronger turret van (We never ask for this.), and bugfixes. IT'S TRUE, some rewards are very small bugfixes like filter stealth or loud and unnecessary weapon re-balances. We never ask for this.
    **** you OVK.    … Expand
  65. WMDeeZ
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    I have nearly 500 hours in the game and have played since the beginning. But with recent updates of Microtransactions and P2W formula, I have to leave a negative review anywhere I can. I want the old OVERKILL back!
  66. 88MIKEll
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Do not waste your money on this game, first you will think 'Oh wow, a good game that is pretty cheap" but then you will look and see that the other 3 quarters of the games costs over 150$. Not to mention the developers are filthy people.
  67. nero82
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Micropayments gehen gar nicht ...

    ... wenn man das Spiel vorher gekauft hat.
    ... wenn sie Vorteile im Spiel bringen.

    Was hier leider der Fall ist.
  68. Nooboras
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    You are paying for the game , you are paying for the unlimited number of DLCs and then you pay for microtransactions aswell... Nope , stay the hell away from it!!
  69. Look444
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    I started playing around June, played almost everyday for 2 months and had a great time. Game wasn't the best, a 7 at most, but it could still be fun as hell. Then the microtransactions came. I had not played the game by then for 2 weeks but that gave me the reason to uninstall, I dropped all the support for Overkill but I could see why people still played it, my personal score dropped toI started playing around June, played almost everyday for 2 months and had a great time. Game wasn't the best, a 7 at most, but it could still be fun as hell. Then the microtransactions came. I had not played the game by then for 2 weeks but that gave me the reason to uninstall, I dropped all the support for Overkill but I could see why people still played it, my personal score dropped to 3.
    Now they add XP and $ boosts like those you'll find in games like Warframe. Why is this bad? Because we're talking about a game that has over $100 worth of DLC's, which are often necessary to play the game because the default weapons are obsolete. Adding microtransactions that affect stats to a game that already have DLC's that affect stats and cost $15, to further add more microtransactions and pay2win boosts means only one thing: Overkill is blinded with greed, and for this exact reason players should let them drown in it. I won't tell you to stop playing the game, but don't buy anything else from them.
    I don't like extremely greedy companies, hence my personal score.    … Expand
  70. TropicalBag
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    I would recommend this game in a heartbeat, if only the developers of said game werent so, SO incredibly greedy, introducing microtransactions to a game they advertised as "this game will never have microtransactions", the mentioned transactions are skins for weapons (Yeah, its a straight rip off from the CS:GO skin system) but Overkill thought of a "unique" way of making the skinsI would recommend this game in a heartbeat, if only the developers of said game werent so, SO incredibly greedy, introducing microtransactions to a game they advertised as "this game will never have microtransactions", the mentioned transactions are skins for weapons (Yeah, its a straight rip off from the CS:GO skin system) but Overkill thought of a "unique" way of making the skins "unique"... how? Well, they added stats to certain skins, thus making the game even more pay2win than it already was, they also completely ignored the community outcry, blatantly saying "publicly" that they system is here to stay, and that they will "continue working on it to refine it as much as possible", and thus a big **** you, nobody gives a flying **** about you, all we care about is $$$$$". AND NOW, again, with the introduction of "update 90" they also released EXP boosts attached on the weapon skins, THUS MAKING IT EVEN MORE PAY2WIN THAN IT PREVIOUSLY WAS, they also released the Completely Overkill rewards, which was the biggest **** you along with the middle finger" type of "deal" that they could have thought, giving every Completely Overkill owner a **** ass safe and drill for access to 1 out of 25 "unique my ass" skins which were average at best, previously advertising the secret content (the **** safe and drill) that we waited for 8 whole months for, as "a true payday 2 fan collectible, every single piece will be carefully crafted with care and love for the most hardcore payday 2 fans" lemme tell you, those abominations were NOT carefully crafted with love and care for a "true payday 2 fan", and finally, to try and "deceive" us into thinking they care about us, they also slapped on the **** reward 7 DLCs, which are old as **** and that most of the payday 2 fans already bought before, thus getting literally nothing out of the **** deal. If you dont want this crap to happen to you one day, stay away from this game with a burning passion, i have 559 hours logged in the game, and i would gladly put in another 500 hours, IF, all of this **** wouldnt have happened, i also bought 90% of the 27 (Yup, ****ing 27) buggy as hell DLC, only missing like 4 DLC packs, and i regret all of it, stay away from this cashgrab of a game if you mind your **** virginity.… Expand
  71. Gnupsie
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    "We've made it clear that PAYDAY 2 will have no micro-transactions whatsoever (shame on you if you thought otherwise!)"

    Well, who is to be ashamed now?
  72. DKATyler
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    How do you take a game rated 8.5/10 by the community and convert it to a score of 3.5? By doing what overkill has done. Adding microtransactions when promising not to. Adding Movie tie-ins in exchange for hundreds of thousands of dollars in essentially donation money. Adding more expensive DLC bringing the full-game price to $150 when originally promising to keep the dlc low costHow do you take a game rated 8.5/10 by the community and convert it to a score of 3.5? By doing what overkill has done. Adding microtransactions when promising not to. Adding Movie tie-ins in exchange for hundreds of thousands of dollars in essentially donation money. Adding more expensive DLC bringing the full-game price to $150 when originally promising to keep the dlc low cost relative to the game.

    Payday2 community has been commented multiple times as one of the worst communities on steam. All of that vitriol however is mostly directed at Overkill for repeated promise breaking. Today it's gotten bad enough that even the moderators have given up.    … Expand
  73. ajfkfafjkl
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    disgusting and shameless practices by the developers; dont support this and keep an eye out for the names responsible in future games. they'll break their promises and screw you over for money anytime.
  74. Origin_Saint
    Nov 13, 2015
    0
    Microtransactions and then the damage control you go for is making those microtransactions result in skins that not only stat-boost, but now provide XP and money boosts? Get out of here with that **** You won't ever see another cent from me.
  75. helloyou22
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    shove your microtransactions up your fat lying ass. this was a good game think i put in like 150 hours. the 200 million dlc wore a bit thin buy hey atleast no micro transactions........ ye not any more
  76. missey100
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    so ye they lied about microtransactions i guess they not making any money with all those dls that have come out **** u **** i guess they dont care about us
  77. imwithstupid
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    wait so we supposed to ignore u saying microtransactions would never be in the game? Is releasing dlc every week not making u enough money.
    It was a good game, put alot of hours into it. yet another company who couldent give a ****
  78. RoneiAlves
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    This game used to be quite good and i used to play it, until it turned into CS:GO with the last patch, now the flame was has started and the community is trying to execute Overkill for that patch. (or so it seems)
  79. Moogleswarm
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    The game was a massively fun co op experience with other fellow gamers. However M/T's as well as a lack of communication with the community. This has sorely eaten away at this once amazing title.
  80. PrinceChitin
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    This used to be a good game, but the company did things resembling extortion of players recently. Do not waste your time on this game, and move on to something else. Nothing to see here.
  81. LordDongHammer
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    I spent 170$ on DLC and copies for my friends. I spent 400 hours playing this game, it was worth it then.

    Now, it is pay to win and the game has been ruined for me and all of my friends. Don't bother with this game.
  82. Parker237
    Nov 12, 2015
    0
    Payday 2 used to be one of my favorite games. I was an absolute fanatic for the game. I even supported their more questionable actions, like poor-quality DLCs, poorly thought out balance changes, and even stat-boosting microtransactions. but then they went and directly attacked their most loyal and dedicated fans. I even cosplay as one of the main characters to airsoft events! I boughtPayday 2 used to be one of my favorite games. I was an absolute fanatic for the game. I even supported their more questionable actions, like poor-quality DLCs, poorly thought out balance changes, and even stat-boosting microtransactions. but then they went and directly attacked their most loyal and dedicated fans. I even cosplay as one of the main characters to airsoft events! I bought almost all their DLC and quite a lot of their merchandise despite having to pay for shipping from Germany! I even bought their "purely cosmetic" Completely overkill pack which cost TWENTY DOLLARS. and what do I get for my undying love and affection? I get DLCs that I already own and can't give to friends, and I get a terrible weapon skin for a gun I don't even use, and everyone else can just buy it for 10 dollars. I love payday 2, but Overkill software has lost all my trust.… Expand
  83. gsxrjeff
    Nov 11, 2015
    0
    micro transactions have killed the game I once loved,now its full of spoilt kids spending their parents money and overgreed think its the way the game should go.
  84. rextrendy
    Nov 10, 2015
    0
    Flat out greed killed this game. It used to get massive community support through their DLC model, but it was recently updated to include microtransactions after the developers promised it would never have them.
  85. dufake
    Nov 10, 2015
    0
    Before the crimefest 2 update there were already paid DLCs like small weapon packs and level packs. Most of them are very little contents and not cheap. Then now developers break promises and lie again and again. Worst developers ever.
  86. Overvulture
    Nov 9, 2015
    0
    So here's the deal. The game has some cool stuff going for it. Lots of guns, great soundtrack, really satisfying shooting and an awesome heist movie aesthetic that really tickles my jimmies. The first few games with friends or with strangers are going to feel really cool and immersive. But the cracks really start to show fast and repetition sets before long. Make no mistake: this is a gameSo here's the deal. The game has some cool stuff going for it. Lots of guns, great soundtrack, really satisfying shooting and an awesome heist movie aesthetic that really tickles my jimmies. The first few games with friends or with strangers are going to feel really cool and immersive. But the cracks really start to show fast and repetition sets before long. Make no mistake: this is a game about grinding, and is designed to encourage it in every way.

    The scale of time versus reward when playing on a moderate difficulty or just playing less rewarding heists is stupidly low, so it quickly becomes a game of identifying the best levels to grind and playing nothing but those. Equipment variety is tossed out the window if it doesn't help you complete those specific heists faster, and the community expects you to be on board with this. Sure you're not required to grind, but you'll find that not only are fewer people willing to play with you, it takes an agonizingly long time to acquire what you want.

    And this is of course because the drop system is ridiculous and designed to make the game last way longer than it should. Weapon mods are awarded randomly and might not be for the weapon you want. Plus they require cash to attach... and then more cash to attach again if you swap them out for another. Mask customization materials are one-use only and also random. Everything is stretched out and limited that it almost feels like playing a free-to-play game that's nudging you towards microtransactions. More on those later.

    But none of this is a deal-breaker for me yet. I don't mind a bit of mindless grinding. It's always been a game I play on the side of whatever else I'm actually playing, something where I don't have to think much and can just pull the trigger a lot. And it does get to be a lot of fun with friends for a while, especially when you're coordinating and pulling things off smoothly, especially the stealth approach, even if the stealth system is silly as hell.

    I honestly don't mind a lot of DLC when I like a game. There is some really dumb and overpriced add-on content for sale with this game, and overall it's spread out over way too many different packs, each containing very little, but I've bought most of it anyway to support a game I was enjoying. The DLC situation has got worse and worse over time too, becoming less interesting with each release and coming more frequently. The heists are always fun and impressive, though there isn't a lot of game time with each one, and the weapon packs vary from useful and almost required for high-level play to utterly useless for anything but novelty.

    I've shrugged off a lot of crap over the years with this game, still playing it and defending it despite how dumb it acts sometimes. The buggy and unpolished nature, the emphasis on constant grind, the excessive dlc, and of course just how braindead it actually is despite disguising itself as a sophisticated heist simulator. Weapon packs were fine. Character packs were fine. I've been consistently disappointed in the lack of actual upgrades and tweaking for the main game in favour of paid content, but tweaks don't pay the bills, I get it. It's not helped when the developers act obnoxiously "cool" and quote memes while they sell their new DLC and act like everything they do to the game is a huge favour, but I don't have to like the developers to like their game. At least they hadn't fallen victim to any F2P temptation yet.

    But they finally did it. Rather than try to maintain the illusion that they were a cool, rebellious little studio that would never give in to mainstream pressures, microtransactions have arrived. Not only that, but they're not simply for aesthetic rewards either, but actually have gameplay effects. Even with the addition of rare free safe drops this has already broken the already very thin goodwill I had left for this company and I am very unlikely to support any of their future projects ever again. They've strung me along nicely so far and wrung money out of me as I continued to come back to their strangely addictive gunwank, but I'm done.

    In short, this game was pretty fun for quite a while, but has gradually declined in quality over time. In its current state, there could not possibly be a worse time than now to get into this game if you haven't already. You missed the train and it's not coming back. Just keep moving. Nothing to see here.    … Expand
  87. Chaosbreak
    Nov 9, 2015
    0
    Update 25/10/2015 - "Crimefest is over! AMA discussion with Almir on the road ahead" A lot of misdirected anwsers... very little consideration for the dedicated comunity.

    Update 23/10/2015 - You can get the drill from the loot drop (with a low odd)... its something... but still, so many things missing and so many promises unfulfilled... 16/10/2015 - Microtransactions on a game that    Update 25/10/2015 - "Crimefest is over! AMA discussion with Almir on the road ahead" A lot of misdirected anwsers... very little consideration for the dedicated comunity.

    Update 23/10/2015 - You can get the drill from the loot drop (with a low odd)... its something... but still, so many things missing and so many promises unfulfilled...

    16/10/2015 - Microtransactions on a game that is not free is bad... even worse its the fact that it was done after the promisse that they would never do it.
    Now we are on a path that totally destroyed the comunity trust. That was just a greedy and horrible move...    … Expand
  88. Undastelar
    Nov 8, 2015
    0
    They started with pay to win DLCs. Now... they started microtransactions. Are you damn crazy? Even Dota2, CSGO doesn't have DLCs, only skins, that doesn't affect the game. You just don't listen to community, you use it for you own profit. I give it a zero to those who doesn't have a honor for themselves to be a part of a good dev team. Disable the new microtransactions, or you will start aThey started with pay to win DLCs. Now... they started microtransactions. Are you damn crazy? Even Dota2, CSGO doesn't have DLCs, only skins, that doesn't affect the game. You just don't listen to community, you use it for you own profit. I give it a zero to those who doesn't have a honor for themselves to be a part of a good dev team. Disable the new microtransactions, or you will start a war with community.… Expand
  89. korbeen
    Nov 8, 2015
    0
    To new gamers, it's very important that you disregard any review that's too old, since it won't reflect the actual status of the game, it includes probably all the professional reviews.
    After playing the Payday 2 since launch and see it slowly degrade the game play, that initially was perfect and well rounded, I'm very sad to see what happen to this game.
    In the beginning the game was    To new gamers, it's very important that you disregard any review that's too old, since it won't reflect the actual status of the game, it includes probably all the professional reviews.
    After playing the Payday 2 since launch and see it slowly degrade the game play, that initially was perfect and well rounded, I'm very sad to see what happen to this game.
    In the beginning the game was about aiming carefully to conserve ammo, stick together to kill the specials and do the objectives, with the DLCs and free updates (explosive ammo, akimbos, critical hits (why do we need criticals on a action game???), snipers, RPGs) the game became just another hack and slash, you'd hardly end up without ammo and only an cloacker would be a threat (kind of).
    The game became unispired and not about the player skills and team play, just about pray and spray or one shot kill tactics, the maps wasn't balanced in the experience rewards, very easy maps like Hoxton Breakout would give way more xp and money than a longer/harder mission like framing frame/firestarter, what transform the game in an infinite repetition of the same job.
    The last nail on the payday coffin was the microtransactions, they are not just about cosmetic items (what I wouldn't like either, but would understand), but items that actually improve the performance.
    As it wasn't enough, my AK rifle with DMR, that before was doing around 100 damage is now in the 180 damage, the skill necessary to play the game is now officially ZERO.    … Expand
  90. gerikeify566
    Nov 6, 2015
    0
    Micro-transactions... from now on most likely only new skins will be added.
    No new maps, nothing.
    Only this kind of ,,content". Notice that sarcastic way i say content.
    This is why PD2 gets a negative from me.
  91. Jadonson
    Nov 5, 2015
    0
    Absolutely awful business decisions by OVERKILL. I literally made an account to post this. You don't lie to the community and expect them to just forget. Terrible.
  92. Tisulan
    Nov 5, 2015
    0
    The game is very bad. There is very little to do without purchasing the game's DLCs, which total to $110 despite this game not being free to play. They also recently added microtransactions, something they said they would never do. Ever. If you want a similar experience to this game that you can enjoy at a fraction of the price, try the first game.
  93. Richteran
    Nov 5, 2015
    0
    The developers are the insidious kind of weasels that cause nothing but grief to you. The amount of money you have to pay to unlock everything is now functionally infinite, because the skins involved in reaching the meta are all locked behind CS:GO paywalls. Before that, there was £200 of DLC in the game. I have spent all of that money keeping up with a game I used to love, sticking by itThe developers are the insidious kind of weasels that cause nothing but grief to you. The amount of money you have to pay to unlock everything is now functionally infinite, because the skins involved in reaching the meta are all locked behind CS:GO paywalls. Before that, there was £200 of DLC in the game. I have spent all of that money keeping up with a game I used to love, sticking by it like an abusive ex, and now I'm done.

    Don't buy it. At best, you're bored. At worst, you're hooked, and doomed to the same thousand-hour fate that I am. DO NOT BUY THIS GAME.    … Expand
  94. DumbRiceBucket
    Nov 3, 2015
    0
    greed ruins games, why would you do this overkill, you were the chosen one, you were suppose fight against micro-transactions, not join them. Well at least it had a good run while it lasted
  95. Cotroneo
    Nov 1, 2015
    1
    When good devs go bad.

    Would have rated this game an 8/10 (8 because of its repetitiveness) before, but OVERKILL has become one more publisher/developer that has been corrupted by the trend of microtransactions. I am just praying that something super catastrophic happens within the gaming world that sparks a big enough outcry for people to completely boycott (or boycott to the point    When good devs go bad.

    Would have rated this game an 8/10 (8 because of its repetitiveness) before, but OVERKILL has become one more publisher/developer that has been corrupted by the trend of microtransactions.

    I am just praying that something super catastrophic happens within the gaming world that sparks a big enough outcry for people to completely boycott (or boycott to the point of companies losing money).

    Until then, blame little kids dishing out all of their allowance on microtransactions in games.    … Expand
  96. xetelian
    Nov 1, 2015
    0
    For a $20 game it is pretty nice...until you factor in the $110 of DLCs which isn't even the worst part since they decided we should pay them more money to buff our weapons with skins that contribute stats values.

    $2.50 to open the new crates that will give you a skin for a weapon you might not even have.
  97. vannidar
    Nov 1, 2015
    0
    The gameplay for this game is currently pretty great.
    The developer has proven, through a pattern of dishonesty and disrespect toward the playerbase, to be untrustworthy deceptive. The future of this game is in jeopardy, and the developers don't care about players' opinions; they're pushing forward, full-throttle.
  98. h2097780
    Nov 1, 2015
    0
    A great game, ruined with micro transactions and expensive never-ending DLCs. If you buy the base game, about 70% of the weapons are locked, DLC only.
    Their goal is to rip off every penny you have with any way possible.
  99. Lynxo
    Nov 1, 2015
    0
    In short words: DLC infested trash.
    1. They promised us a lot of heists, but instead they recycle the existing 3 day jobs and make them 1 day job, or making the same heist "pro job" so it must be completed in one run.
    2. They sell content that should have been included in the base game, like snipers, shotguns, grenades,... 3. They sell character packs, one of which adds a huge boost to    In short words: DLC infested trash.
    1. They promised us a lot of heists, but instead they recycle the existing 3 day jobs and make them 1 day job, or making the same heist "pro job" so it must be completed in one run.
    2. They sell content that should have been included in the base game, like snipers, shotguns, grenades,...
    3. They sell character packs, one of which adds a huge boost to stealth gameplay.
    4. They shamelessly use payday 2 to promote other stuff, like john wick and hotline miami which are in no way connected to payday 2.
    5. The "free content" they always promise, and which fans use to defend their dlc policy is usually trash.
    6. They give updates as rewards to their community challenge.
    7. Prestiging system is horrible and it gives no rewards.
    8. Bascially the whole leveling system is based on grinding.
    9. Mods and developers are cocky and rude and they constantly lie.
    10. Many more things can be said but I'd have to type untill tomorrow...

    The latest microtransaction drama confirms it all. Community should have rallied agains overkill a long time ago, finally something happened. Developers promised no microtransactions, but here they are.
    They do some damage control and the worst thing is it actually works on some people. I hope this doesn't get swept under the rug like most of overkill's f***ups

    The game is fun if you have friends to play with, public games are horrible. I had fun playing with friends, completing challenges and stuff. I didn't mind buying some dlcs while they were on sales but honestly i'm ashamed that i did. This selling content that should have been included should not be a standard.    … Expand
  100. Maverick13
    Oct 31, 2015
    0
    Trash since even before they introduced the microtransactions that killed the game. Terrible support for fixing glaring game breaker bugs, zero communication to fix said bugs, all while pumping out DLC expecting more money, and finally attaching stat boosts to skins just so you can be competitive and actually win the game. PaytoWin, **** you Overkill.
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#67 Best PC Game of 2013
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79

Generally favorable reviews - based on 51 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 40 out of 51
  2. Mixed: 11 out of 51
  3. Negative: 0 out of 51
  1. GRYOnline.pl
    Oct 9, 2013
    80
    PayDay 2 is one of the nicest surprises of the year. Overkill Software understands the atmosphere of gangster movies and wisely improves these pieces of gameplay, that might have been disappointing in the first game. The sequel is better in almost every way - you can play a thief and enjoy good character development and shooting systems. I really hope, that PayDay 3 will be even better.
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  2. Pelit (Finland)
    Oct 5, 2013
    86
    Payday 2 is an excellent co-op shooter - a vast improvement over the first one. [Sept 2013]
  3. Hyper Magazine
    Oct 3, 2013
    80
    A unique and captivating multiplayer experience that rewards team work over personal glory. But make sure you bring friends for the true experience. [Nov 2013, p.62]
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