Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Edition

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  1. Tachikoma
    Aug 30, 2020
    1
    As someone who's been playing games since the early 80s, I've seen my score of poorly made games. In recent years I've been through the the Bethesda, Assassin Creed and WCW games of the last 2 generations to name but a few and I think we've all pretty muck come to respect them for their charming rubbishness....but this is different.
    T list all the individual issues I've experienced since    As someone who's been playing games since the early 80s, I've seen my score of poorly made games. In recent years I've been through the the Bethesda, Assassin Creed and WCW games of the last 2 generations to name but a few and I think we've all pretty muck come to respect them for their charming rubbishness....but this is different.
    T list all the individual issues I've experienced since installing this game a week ago would take me over the 5000 word limit so I will list my favourites here.
    1. Attacks not working: 25% of attacks randomly fail to occur when selected yet count as your action having been taken. In effect, you lose your turn.
    2. Charge not working: You can Charge in combat, doubling your move rate and ending with a strike while accepting a deduction in defence. Again 25% of the time the character stops half-way to the target and your turn is over.
    3. Abilities and Spells not conveying effects: As a fantasy game, there are hundreds of spells and abilities to choose from but often the enemy has a chance to save against some of the effects. Unfortunately, in PF:LM, if they save against one part they're immune to all of the effects!
    4. Keyboard issue: This was the first issue I found. When creating your initial character you get to name them. Sadly this is the only thing that has ever failed to pop the onscreen keyboard on any text entry screen unless you restart (several times).
    5. Save issues: 50% of saves crash the game back to Dashboard when selected or, even better, at 75% thus corrupting the save file. Also, you can have more than 1 gave on the go and the saves are conveniently saved under the character's name to keep them separate from one another; unfortunately the quicksave slots are not so when I played for a few hours and used Quicksave (to avoid crashes) I inadvertently deleted my wife's 20 hour save.
    6. Areas of the map inaccessible: So far 2 areas of the map refuse to allow entry. Visiting them on the main map should present an Enter or Leave option, these do neither. Sadly one has 2 recruitable characters inside which are inaccessible to me.
    7. Respec Characters: There is an NPC who you can pay to downgrade to level 1 then respect the levels to make all your character growth choices anew. Unfortunately, while you can spend the cash and go through all the levels, clicking Done takes you out of the process still at level 1 with no way to respend the points.
    8. Kingdom Management issue: I've sunk 30+ hours (ignoring the 15 or so replay due to corrupt saves and crashes) into the game up until today and this is where my journey ends. Part of the game is managing a kingdom and building property, making decisions, sending staff on quests etc to improve certain ranking to unlock new features and story-required milestones. Today I was hit by a crash when I left my castle for the town square and was spawned under the map so couldn't do anything and had to leave the area. This led to a dashboard crash and, upon reloading I was elsewhere on the worldmap having been moved out of my Kingdom. I travelled back to the Kingdom and was taken into the tutorial again upon which I found 20 hours of management had been deleted and all quests unavailable literally making the game unwinnable without a restart from the beginning again.

    As it stands today with Owlcat Games, PC has continued support and updates. PS4 had a day 1 patch that fixed many issues (but hundreds more have come to light since) and Xbox have had no updates with the official word being "The update 1.0.0.9.* for Xbox One is currently in submission and awaiting approval" and they admit they have no idea how long this will take. Also, considering all many new issues being raised on their forum daily it's clear this phantom patch will solve none of these issues.
    So my final words are these. Pathfinder is a brilliant idea made extremely poorly but a developer rushing for a cashgrab to find their new project which is the sequel due out on PC mid-2021.
    Avoid, they don't deserve your money.    … Expand
  2. Xbox_Alive
    Aug 21, 2020
    8
    Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Edition is an isometric role-playing game developed by Russian studio Owlcat Games and published by Deep Silver, based on Paizo Publishing's Pathfinder franchise. Announced through a Kickstarter campaignand released about 2 years ago and now Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Editions is on our radar for Xbox One. Experience the adventure alongside livingPathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Edition is an isometric role-playing game developed by Russian studio Owlcat Games and published by Deep Silver, based on Paizo Publishing's Pathfinder franchise. Announced through a Kickstarter campaignand released about 2 years ago and now Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Editions is on our radar for Xbox One. Experience the adventure alongside living and breathing companions, each with deep stories and decisions of their own. Love them, adore them or hate them for who they are. Pathfinder Kingmaker takes players on a tour through the infamous Stolen Lands, the dangerous and turbulent territories well known within Pathfinder fandom. it is here where this RPG will let you revisit familiar characters and well-known locations of the “series” lore, treating players to brand new adventures, deadly foes, and unforeseen twists and turns. The Definitive Edition features all previously released DLCs. That means, you’ll discover access to all of the DLC packs and the main game all for one value price for your Xbox One library. Deep Silver is well known to publish top notch games and this is no exception to that for the Xbox One family of consoles.… Expand
  3. ISSGOD
    Aug 23, 2020
    8
    Not much about Pathfinder on the Xbox so thought I would give my impressions of the first 20 or so hours of the game. I am an experienced D&D player but am a bit rusty. Anyway here are my thoughts thus far.

    I was worried that the font size would be too small to read in what I assumed would be a text heavy game. Thus far roughly 1/3 of the game is voice acted and well done while the rest    Not much about Pathfinder on the Xbox so thought I would give my impressions of the first 20 or so hours of the game. I am an experienced D&D player but am a bit rusty. Anyway here are my thoughts thus far.

    I was worried that the font size would be too small to read in what I assumed would be a text heavy game. Thus far roughly 1/3 of the game is voice acted and well done while the rest is text in which the font size can be changed and is relatively easy for my old eyes to read on my 32” screen.

    The gameplay is faithful to the old school CRPG’s such as Baldur’s Gate. You can have up to six characters (7 if you include Rangers pet) and have a wide selection of classes. The combat can be in real-time or turn-based and can be switched on the fly... I use turn-based. Animation and graphics are very well done and I love the way the spells look.

    Some issues are that the quick save function is not that quick, which sucks as it is wise save a lot! Targeting friendlies who are surrounded by enemy is a problem which once led me to heal a bandit. Combat controls are not explained very well. The game has a tutorial but it covers a few basics in an otherwise very complicated game. This is the type of game that it is best to do a bunch of reading up on it’s complex systems before you first load it up to play.

    The difficulty settings in the game for combat range from masochistic to you would have to try hard to die. The Kingdom ( oh ya, you get one early on) also has an adjustable difficulty setting and if you do not want to deal with Kingdom management, you can allow the AI to manage it for you. I set it to the easiest setting until I start to figure things out. There is a lot more to be said, but rather than type it all out I would simply say go to YouTube and search for Pathfinder tips and watch a few vids.

    Thus far I really enjoy the game. It scratches my Baldur’s Gate itch that has needed scratching for a long time. If you are new to D&D then be prepared for a brutal learning curve. If you can get through the curve and like tactical games then this may be the game for you. If you are a D&D player then you know what you are in for.

    I will post a full review in a month or two after I beat what is said to be a well over 100 hour game. I give it an 8 thus far but expect my scoring to go up as I conquer the learning curve and assuming the game continues upon its excellent trajectory.    … Expand
  4. LajeshKa
    Aug 31, 2020
    9
    On PS4. The game is a bit shaky right now, but they are working on it and have updates in their pipeline. I've played it on PC but the console version have all DLCs so I bought it again. I don't rate the current issues, they will be solved eventually.
    The game is exceptional, even for a classic RPG, great characters, nice twists and lots of freedom. Deadly encounters can kick your ****s    On PS4. The game is a bit shaky right now, but they are working on it and have updates in their pipeline. I've played it on PC but the console version have all DLCs so I bought it again. I don't rate the current issues, they will be solved eventually.
    The game is exceptional, even for a classic RPG, great characters, nice twists and lots of freedom. Deadly encounters can kick your ****s but at least some kind of challenge involved here.    … Expand
  5. Ttuarmyjag
    Aug 31, 2020
    9
    Well there aren’t many reviews for this game so I figured I’d offer my two cents if anyone is on the fence. Disclaimer, I haven’t beaten the game yet. I’m about to start act 3 and probably 20 hours in at least. I love it! If beaten both divinities, and pillars of eternity. I’ve been truly impressed at how well the crpg experience translates to consoles. While the game suffers fromWell there aren’t many reviews for this game so I figured I’d offer my two cents if anyone is on the fence. Disclaimer, I haven’t beaten the game yet. I’m about to start act 3 and probably 20 hours in at least. I love it! If beaten both divinities, and pillars of eternity. I’ve been truly impressed at how well the crpg experience translates to consoles. While the game suffers from significant performance issues on the Xbox one x, and has quite a few very frustrating gameplay bugs, I truly am impressed by the ambition of the developers. Let’s start with what works. Hands down the best tabletop experience I’ve ever had with a crpg. I’m a Dungeons and Dragons guy; less familiar with pathfinder. Bottom line, different universe, so you won’t recognize countries or characters. But basically same monsters and classes (with some differences for sure). I was pretty comfortable with most of the basics but this is an unapologetic, systems heavy game. Sooo many options. I’ve watched a lot of YouTube videos to try and figure stuff out. But I’m enjoying it immensely. First, the game leans heavily into character choice and alignment. More so than not crpgs. It’s fantastic. Wonderful dialogue options. The story on the whole is fun. It’s interesting and I’m enjoying the npc characters. I mostly play turn based combat but click into real times when it’s an easy enemy that only requires auto attacks. The graphics are quite pretty with wonderful spell effects. The art is also pretty solid throughout. Kingdom management is interesting so far and def different. I’m enjoying it thus far but only after doing a lot of research into what to do and what not to do. Few people have mentioned this but I love love love their Resting system. Most crpgs reward rest scumming so you never feel pressure of limited spells. I love their camping system and use of rations. It’s quite clever and I enjoy the camping conversations that occur. The voice acting is pretty awesome as well. Another big win is their inventory system and trade. Weight and traveling is different from most games but I think very smart. Weight is shared amongst parties but discourages hoarding. You only pick up the weapons and items you will use or can sell for significant value. No hoarding 800 small swords. I appreciate the extra effort at realism while still giving plenty of options to make money. Ok, so here’s some bad. Lots of stuttering and lag particularly in bigger maps. Buttery smooth on the rare small maps. But big dungeons...it’s gonna drop. It’s still quite playable tho. But annoying. Load times take btw screens takes btw 20 seconds and 2-3 minutes. It’s not great. But honestly I’m not minding it. Gameplay glitches are pretty frustrating tho. The biggest I’ve seen, and a previous 1 score from another user highlighted it was well, is the action wasting glitch. It’s unfortunately VERY frequent. My warrior will start a charge and it will just stop. Turn wasted. A character will start a spell, and clearly have the movement and action capability to do so, and it will just not execute. This happens way to much. Another glitch is the system won’t let any party members move normally. It treats all movement as yellow exhausted/extra movement. A quick fix is to switch from turn based to real time. Then back to turn based. Fixes it. But very frustrating. I
    also do not trust auto saves. Keep multiple save files!!! On one occasion I saved manually in kingdom. But when I moved to leave throne room it wouldn’t load outworks. Instead it kept loading auto save that was a week (game time) old. Super weird. So the game has bugs. But the fantastic choices the game provides, the fun gameplay and role playing it offers are major stand outs. I loved divinity and pillars but this game is pretty fantastic. I’m very glad I got it and foresee many many more hours being given up to it.    … Expand
  6. Gekk
    Sep 6, 2020
    10
    This is absolutely one of the best games I have ever played. This is truly like playing tabletop on a video game and as close as you will ever get to the experience. If you have never played Pathfinder or DnD before this is also a great way to basically learn most of the rules. I can confidently say this is now one of my favorite games of all time even rivaling epic titles such as DragonThis is absolutely one of the best games I have ever played. This is truly like playing tabletop on a video game and as close as you will ever get to the experience. If you have never played Pathfinder or DnD before this is also a great way to basically learn most of the rules. I can confidently say this is now one of my favorite games of all time even rivaling epic titles such as Dragon Age and other Bioware titles. The story is deep and allows you to immerse yourself not only into the role of your character but also to control an entire Kingdom and decide it's fate. The dynamics of utilizing lawful/chaotic and good/evil along with neutral choices make all decisions feel far more complete and realistic. I do admit that there are some bugs with this game, this is an indie studio after all, however despite the bugs this game is well worth picking up! If you like RPG's you will be in for a wild and addictive ride that will likely take you 90-300 hours to complete and that is just one play-through. All in all I give this game a solid 10/10! It earns every bit of it!… Expand
  7. guitarfred
    Jan 23, 2023
    0
    Das Spiel ist schlichtweg unfertig. Es nervt an sehr vielen Stellen. Verstellt Einstellungen des Spielers, sodass immer wieder extreme nachteile im Kampf enstehen,lädt und speichert irsinnig lang, viele voreingestellte funktionen, wie zB. nicht verlangsamen funktionieren überhaupt nicht, man kann sich den wochentag nicht anzeigen lassen wenn man mit dem Curser auf das entsprechende SymbolDas Spiel ist schlichtweg unfertig. Es nervt an sehr vielen Stellen. Verstellt Einstellungen des Spielers, sodass immer wieder extreme nachteile im Kampf enstehen,lädt und speichert irsinnig lang, viele voreingestellte funktionen, wie zB. nicht verlangsamen funktionieren überhaupt nicht, man kann sich den wochentag nicht anzeigen lassen wenn man mit dem Curser auf das entsprechende Symbol geht.........und und und..........80% bis 90% sicht man Ladebildschirme. Jetzt kann sich jeder ausmalen, wieviel Zeit man verschwendet, in einem 200 Std. Spiel. wäre das alles nicht, wäre es ein Traumspiel. So aber ist es ein Albtaum!… Expand
  8. Awanka
    Dec 24, 2022
    8
    A very good, but flawed, DnD-based RPG with party of 6 and real time combat, similar to the Infinity Engine games. This game is huge. There is a lot to do. More dungeons than you can shake a stick at. You have to split your time between exploring the world and running a kingdom. You'll construct buildings for towns, resolve events from the throne, make kingly decisions, and mostA very good, but flawed, DnD-based RPG with party of 6 and real time combat, similar to the Infinity Engine games. This game is huge. There is a lot to do. More dungeons than you can shake a stick at. You have to split your time between exploring the world and running a kingdom. You'll construct buildings for towns, resolve events from the throne, make kingly decisions, and most importantly, manage time.

    This game has a time limit. The gameplay of combat and exploration is interspersed with story-based sections similar to a choose your own adventure book that has the free-flowing feeling of a real DnD campaign.

    There are a number of issues. The game designers are sometimes real jerks. You'll fail quests if you don't perform actions in a very specific sequence of unintuitive actions, or you'll be faced with creatures that can only be killed by one member of your party chosen at random, or they'll take away critical party members for an entire chapter of the game. Some of the things that happen are unbalanced, obnoxious, and very frustrating.

    The DnD ruleset is used to good effect here, but also shows its weaknesses. It's not robust enough for what Owlcat is trying to do. It is poorly balanced and completely falls apart in the second half of the game, like it's being shoehorned into something more expansive than what it was designed for.

    This game is unusually well-written. I very much appreciated how the bad guys had their own motivations and personalities and were interesting in their own way. This game can get dark at times.
    As a whole, it's a huge sprawling epic mess. A lot of frustration, and a lot of fun.    … Expand
  9. Majestical
    Dec 25, 2020
    2
    Really good game love the storyline, but crashes every five mins, really busy and have to do each area at least twice due to constantly getting thrown out of game

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Mixed or average reviews - based on 6 Critic Reviews

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  1. XboxAddict
    Oct 14, 2020
    75
    While not without its list of issues, the length of Pathfinder: Kingmaker – Definitive Edition is deceptively long, the voice acting is quite well done, the dialogue is written well and the world has more than enough lore to get lost in. While its console port could have used a little more care and work, it’s still a great gaming experience if you crave those classic cRPG’s from the late 90’s – early 2000’s and want a classic D&D-like experience.
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  2. Xbox Tavern
    Sep 8, 2020
    84
    Pathfinder: Kingmaker is a very detailed and immersive RPG and there is much to get involved within the game and enjoy. Fans of the old Baldurs Gate-style games will find a lot of comfort in this game as there is a lot of familiarities and it has been brought to a decent modern standard. Causal players might find the game like wading through treacle in its pacing, but with the great story line and bags of content, there is a lot of enjoyment to be had if you can commit the time to it.
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  3. TheXboxHub
    Sep 3, 2020
    60
    Behind all of the technical trouble of Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Definitive Edition is a really great CRPG that honors its heritage and feels like a 90's CRPG release - the kind of thing that could stand right next to the classic greats. While it's certainly not as good as some of those seminal titles, it does come close and is a great time to anyone who wants to party up and venture into a wild and dynamic fantasy world. It’s just a shame that technical aspects stop that from happening.
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