• Publisher: Capcom
  • Release Date: Jan 16, 2018
  • Also On: PC
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  1. May 29, 2018
    2
    Two years later, this is still Scam Fighter V. Don't get fooled by the gaudy coat of paint this game got, or by the journalists that played its singleplayer modes for a couple of minutes - the core issues this game had remain the same. TWO YEARS, and all they did was to turn a broken rushed mess into a bad game that only works offline. Of course, traditional anti-airs feel more consistent,Two years later, this is still Scam Fighter V. Don't get fooled by the gaudy coat of paint this game got, or by the journalists that played its singleplayer modes for a couple of minutes - the core issues this game had remain the same. TWO YEARS, and all they did was to turn a broken rushed mess into a bad game that only works offline. Of course, traditional anti-airs feel more consistent, the ridiculous comeback mechanics have been toned down, throw loops have been fixed, and the new characters have provided the game with a wider array of playstyles, sure, but a fighting that has basic mechanics that actually work is not a miracle, it is just what should be expected from the most famous fighting game series.
    The most important gamemode - the online - remains barely functional. 70% or more of your games will have crippling lag, which makes the whole experience feel unresponsive, frustrating, and amateurish at best, forcing you to constantly blacklist most of the people you play with just to get a chance to have a decent match every once in a while. Imagine waiting 3 to 5 minutes per match, only to get unplayable sets against lag-teleporting opponents that base their strategy solely on lag-abuse. Waiting is the verb that summarizes the whole SFV experience - waiting for new characters, waiting for the patch that will make this game 'good', waiting for the new edition that will change everything. This game's whole existence is based on people waiting for the next big thing - that they will have to pay extra money for, of course - waiting for things that they should already have in the first place. SFV is a gambling game at its core, all you do is throw money and time at it, and hope for the best.
    The same could be said about its core gameplay. Even if you take the lag out of the equation, what's left is a game that lacks any spark. The turn-based flow of the combat, the overall lack of decent defense options, and the way the game balances its core mechanics creates a very shallow set-play heavy experience, where clever decision making in the neutral is often punished rather than rewarded. No matter how well you understand your opponent's every move, big risks followed by re-heated set-play will always get you further than playing interactively. Matches feel mostly like a button-mashing competition as players try every trick in the book to get a fast stun for massive damage. A simple innocent mistake can put you a disadvantage loop that can cost you a round in less than a couple of seconds, even if you played perfectly for a whole minute without taking damage and countering all of your opponent's moves. The truth is that playing random and stupid is the only way to actually get a chance to survive the way this game structures pressure and turns. As a result, winning doesn't feel that good because you know that you're just forcing 50/50s and boring mixups on your opponent over and over again without much thought, and losing feels terrible, because you know you didn't even get a fair chance to get back on your feet. Using your brain actively to solve problems and overcome challenges as they come - which is one of the greatest pleasures of fighting games - is almost forbidden in this game. When you play smart, you often find yourself waiting for your opponent to make mistakes so you can punish them, but punishing obvious bad choices achieves nothing compared to actually making a series of highly punishable moves that work because of lag (which makes even the most basic of punishes way harder than it needs to be). Even if you know how to condition your opponent, you know a random choice is evetually going to stop you on your tracks and completely reverse the momentum. It boils down to how well you can play randomly against other people playing randomly, which is a very uninspired and simplistic take on what the genre has to offer.
    SFV was already the worst big fighting game of its generation, and it's 'second chance' is shaping up to be just a symbolic improvement. With every failure to do what has to be done to fix SFV Capcom is making it harder and harder for people to actually care about the future of this game.
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  2. Jun 19, 2018
    3
    I really wanted to like Street Fighter V but there is so much to dislike about it. Gone are the days of a complete (fighting) game and SFV is leading the pack:

    What I liked: .The game is gorgeous, with amazing backgrounds, vibrant colors, SOME great character designs. .Laudable attempt at a larger story mode even if it was not the best. .V-Triggers are a nice idea. .Much more
    I really wanted to like Street Fighter V but there is so much to dislike about it. Gone are the days of a complete (fighting) game and SFV is leading the pack:

    What I liked:
    .The game is gorgeous, with amazing backgrounds, vibrant colors, SOME great character designs.
    .Laudable attempt at a larger story mode even if it was not the best.
    .V-Triggers are a nice idea.
    .Much more accessible to newer players.
    .Some great musical tracks; Rashid's is so amazing I put it on my main menu as soon as I found out I could do that.

    What I hated:
    .You want a new character? Pay us!
    .You want a new stage? Pay us!
    .You want to buy those things with fight money? Psyche we took away almost all ways of making in game money. PAY US!
    .Unlocked a new in game costume through your characters story mode? Want to use it? Hold up playa, you got pay fight money for that!
    .Those titles you used to get free in USF4? Pay Fight money!
    .Crush counters are TERRIBLE! Why? Because some characters benefit far more than others. Urien, Bison, Karin, Cammy...AKUMA!!!
    .V-Triggers are imbalanced, with some being amazing and others being laughable! Again Urien's Aegis is game changing while Zeku's V Trigger 1 is...who made this v trigger!??!

    Capcom has brought a free to play payment method into a game that is not free to play and it disgusts me! People will jump to defend it and say, "You can pay fight money!" but as of recently that is no longer viable, with fight money now being a constant grind for 50 fight money in online ranked/casual (Only on wins) or leveling up your character through matches, their story, demonstrations or trials.

    I paid full price for a fighting game but you are telling me I have to buy 4 seasons worth of content, (each separately) for 19.99 to 29.99 to get the full experience. So my 59.99 becomes a 100.00+ investment? I am baffled people are okay with such methods!

    It would be fine if you could test drive characters like some free to play games allow you to practice with them but you are buying and hoping this character is awesome. If you do not have the character unlocked you can not practice with or against them in training mode, so good luck. Akuma, Menat, Abigail, Kolin, Urien, Balrog, Blanka, Guile at one point or the other were "top tier" but also behind a pay wall of, Season Passes. I paid full price...wtf is this!?!?!?

    The Character Balance is so terrible, though this has not changed since...well Capcom made fighting games.
    I have pumped hours into this game online and offline! This is coming from a place not of hatred but disappointment. USF4 gave you EVERYTHING...where did that all go?

    The game is a decent fighting game but lack of balancing, Capcom's nickle and diming along with some questionable design choices makes this game a pass for me.
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  3. Oct 14, 2018
    0
    Same awful netcode, same short limbs on every character. Nothing's changed.
  4. Mar 17, 2020
    3
    They did it again! Capcom can't stop screwing this game franchise. I'm done. By the way, what's the point of selling a physical media of the game if, in order to access it's full content , the player have to download it with a online activation code? SF is over to me, thank you, Capcom!
  5. Jan 22, 2018
    4
    I might start by stating the obvious: 0 or 10 reviews are completely unhelpful, though they do tend to ultimately cancel each other out...
    As for SFV Arcade Edition, I cannot possibly give it a positive review. Although I will say there is a clear lesson to be learned from it: don’t buy Capcom games on release. As a big fan of the series, I purchased the original release. And in its
    I might start by stating the obvious: 0 or 10 reviews are completely unhelpful, though they do tend to ultimately cancel each other out...
    As for SFV Arcade Edition, I cannot possibly give it a positive review. Although I will say there is a clear lesson to be learned from it: don’t buy Capcom games on release. As a big fan of the series, I purchased the original release. And in its magnanimity, Capcom thanked me for my patronage by updating the incomplete product they sold me free of charge.
    However, it doesn’t come with all the features, most notably the seasons 1 & 2 characters. Which means that I would have to spend an amount nearly equivalent to buying the new version in order to have the same game. Oh and Capcom has also slashed the amount of in game currency gained from missions, making it even harder than before to amass enough to unlock all characters. This grind puts Korean MMOs to shame!
    As for the “well you’ve been playing it for months” argument, I would argue that I have not. The online matchmaking system is not great. And once I was done with story mode, I barely touched the game again.
    So the lesson here for gamers: if you keep playing ball and buying unfinished products or pay 2 play games that operate on micro transaction models introduced by free 2 play games, or the even worse pay 2 win model, then developers will keep making them. They would be insane not to!
    I really miss the days where there were just 3 options: buy the game, rent the game, or ignore the game. Subscription were one thing (looking at you Blizz), but this is getting out of control...
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  6. Feb 10, 2018
    4
    It's obvious that this site has paid reviews, to suppress the true score of this game. SFV is terrible it's just as bad as it was when it first released, it's still like fighting under water. You will rarely find yourself outplayed, or outwitted simply out classed at character selection and out mashed by cheesy button smashing players with tactics that would get them destroyed in anyIt's obvious that this site has paid reviews, to suppress the true score of this game. SFV is terrible it's just as bad as it was when it first released, it's still like fighting under water. You will rarely find yourself outplayed, or outwitted simply out classed at character selection and out mashed by cheesy button smashing players with tactics that would get them destroyed in any decent fighter. SFV gives some characters really good moves speed and priority that are spam friendly hard to block and seriously nearly impossible to escape. If you watch the pros you will see they get caught by the same cheese spam as you do. Don't buy this game unless you just want to have mindless fun. But this is not a serious fighter and certainly not worthy of the Street Fighter moniker.
    The graphics are nice, the music is nice and the character designs are really cool. But mechanically this game is a **** show...
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  7. Jul 6, 2018
    4
    I have been playing sf since sf2 and this is one of my least favourite entries in the series not because the gameplay is bad but because of the almost doa5 levels of dlc in this game. It will nickel and dime you every chance it gets fight money was nerfed you can get some stuff for free but clearly they want you to buy items with real money. It’s mobile game like approach is just awful andI have been playing sf since sf2 and this is one of my least favourite entries in the series not because the gameplay is bad but because of the almost doa5 levels of dlc in this game. It will nickel and dime you every chance it gets fight money was nerfed you can get some stuff for free but clearly they want you to buy items with real money. It’s mobile game like approach is just awful and it’s not a f2p game capcom has really messed up its not all bad the gameplay is good but with so many other options for less money why bother? Expand
  8. Sep 13, 2018
    0
    This is not even a game. It's the worst possibile chapter after one of the most competitive fighting games ever: Street Fighter 4. This garbage is totally random and brainless. Thanks Capcom. I will never ever buy another Street Fighter game at day 1. This crap ruined all.
  9. Jan 17, 2018
    2
    I had some fun playing the arcade mode, but I noticed that I did not earn any fight money after the completed run. As it turns out, you longer earn fight money to unlock stages and characters as sparely as before, so you pretty much have to fork out another $30- for the season 3 content. If you are fine with that, SFV may be a 3-4 star game. Personally, I have a hard time forgetting theI had some fun playing the arcade mode, but I noticed that I did not earn any fight money after the completed run. As it turns out, you longer earn fight money to unlock stages and characters as sparely as before, so you pretty much have to fork out another $30- for the season 3 content. If you are fine with that, SFV may be a 3-4 star game. Personally, I have a hard time forgetting the initial announcement of SFV where Capcom promised that all characters would be unlockable without having to pay additional money. That may be possible, but I am guessing that you have to play more than 100 hours to do so, making playing the game feel more like a grid than fun. In the end, much like other expensive fighting games that constantly prompts you to buy costumes and characters, SFV does not work as a full priced game, or even as a discounted update, as too much locked content makes it feel like a free to play game. Expand
  10. Jan 19, 2018
    3
    Capcom needs to seriously fix this issue and create a new chapter in Story Mode. As the Arcade Mode states it, Street Fighter 3 is the sequel to Street Fighter 5; this is absolutely stupid. First, why go through all the trouble in reinventing new costume changes for characters when they don't even look like that in Street Fighter 3. Second, why release more characters for this game whenCapcom needs to seriously fix this issue and create a new chapter in Story Mode. As the Arcade Mode states it, Street Fighter 3 is the sequel to Street Fighter 5; this is absolutely stupid. First, why go through all the trouble in reinventing new costume changes for characters when they don't even look like that in Street Fighter 3. Second, why release more characters for this game when they don't even appear in Street Fighter 3. Third, why make a prequel the game client when it already has a sequel. You know why people don't cheer for a sports team on a recording of a live event? Because they already know the outcome; prequels are extremely stupid and one of the worst and laziest forms of story telling, it already happened move forth.
    If Capcom was very smart they would release a new chapter to the Story Mode to make Street Fighter 5, which was built to be a game client to add new content to, the true sequel it should be. Make all these additions to SF5 meaningful and leave room for our imaginations to still wonder forward. Right now in Arcade Edition, the story is completely dumb thanks to this chronological mess and completely useless in my opinion to even spend another cent on until Street Fighter is rightfully the sequel to all of the other Street Fighter games before it. Either that are make Street Fighter 3 the non-canonical Dragon Ball GT of Street Fighter. Currently it’s ruined because of this. Many may disagree but I'm sure a lot of people out there may also agree with me.
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  11. Jan 17, 2018
    3
    Capcom finally put in what was suppose to be included in the first release. Yes there are more things locked behind paid DLC but what’s included in this retail release is good enough for me as I’m a non-competetive fan. The added arcade modes mimicking other SF releases is a nice touch. I do feel that this should have been priced lower though
  12. Apr 2, 2018
    0
    This is absurd! This is the worst Street Fighter ever, I will not buy another one Street Fighter title. It cannot be compared to Street Fighter 4... This is a big Screw You for the fans
  13. Jan 20, 2018
    1
    Terrible. No improvement from Smash Fighter V whatsoever, Same old boring, insipid gameplay. Online matchmaking is the same poor waitfest and the netcode is as bad as ever. Whoever advised capcom to change the netcode from what they used in SF4 needs to be fired on the spot. SF4 was (and still is) superior in pretty much every single way. Just go back and play Ultra Street Fighter 4 if youTerrible. No improvement from Smash Fighter V whatsoever, Same old boring, insipid gameplay. Online matchmaking is the same poor waitfest and the netcode is as bad as ever. Whoever advised capcom to change the netcode from what they used in SF4 needs to be fired on the spot. SF4 was (and still is) superior in pretty much every single way. Just go back and play Ultra Street Fighter 4 if you really feel the need. Not recommended. Go play SF4 instead. Expand
  14. Jan 24, 2023
    2
    Loading is too long.
    Many of the costume designs are terrible.
    There are few attractive characters and the techniques are difficult to use.
  15. Sep 12, 2020
    1
    So bad
    Bad design
    Unbelievable glitches and bugs, even during the cinematics
    Aged terribly
  16. Nov 5, 2018
    0
    I just bought this game 4 days ago and am disappointed. I saw the hype around and was immediately wanting to buy it because I had bought and played USFIV. I was thinking this could be great and I realized something. This game is really **** You wanna know why. Well, they've simplified the systems, given little content compared to previous SF games and other fighting games, and honestly, II just bought this game 4 days ago and am disappointed. I saw the hype around and was immediately wanting to buy it because I had bought and played USFIV. I was thinking this could be great and I realized something. This game is really **** You wanna know why. Well, they've simplified the systems, given little content compared to previous SF games and other fighting games, and honestly, I am not surprised, because this is capcom and they also ended up destroying games that could have been amazing like MVCI or Deadrising 4. Expand
  17. Jun 30, 2018
    2
    1st off you can easily tell this garbage game was made in less than half the amount of time that sf4 was made. everything from the lack of stages ,characters ,supers, special moves, voice acting, terrible netcode and gameplay mechanics. and don't forget about that next gen banana hair. this game is not only a disgrace to the sf series but all fighters in general !
  18. Dec 12, 2020
    0
    Load times are very long on the ps4, there are momentary lags and the content is lacking...
  19. Jan 15, 2020
    0
    Most important here is gameplay and the mechanic sucks. blocking shold be a button not going backwards, there should also be simple combos into special moves like mortal kombat. there should also be alot more mechanics into the fighting in general. the entire game is based on way too simple movement, and people just goes for characters that can be played in the most coward ways. theMost important here is gameplay and the mechanic sucks. blocking shold be a button not going backwards, there should also be simple combos into special moves like mortal kombat. there should also be alot more mechanics into the fighting in general. the entire game is based on way too simple movement, and people just goes for characters that can be played in the most coward ways. the trophies are too grindy. soo the entire game is a **** disaster! i hate it!
    The graphics are bad, the characters looks ugly compared too older games. skins are not good enough. they should learn from netherralms development and its ability too try something new with the same iconic characters! streetfighter is maybe a fun offline game, but you have too consider the game as whole. and in that way it sucks!
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  20. Feb 25, 2020
    2
    Street Fighter 5 suffers from typical modern day fighting game tropes( balance changes in patches, DLC characters being OP) But its biggest let down is how it has no identity. Overall poorly designed, but a little fun to play for what it is. Hopefully SF6 is much better and more like SF4
  21. Aug 4, 2019
    2
    Weakest entry to the series, possibly even weaker than Street Fighter 4. The combat seems dumbed down in all the wrong ways, the top tiers have tools other characters can only dream of having, let alone deal with, and the game just feels like it accentuates too much offense, and not enough other variations of play. There are a variety of modes with this update, but you could have 100Weakest entry to the series, possibly even weaker than Street Fighter 4. The combat seems dumbed down in all the wrong ways, the top tiers have tools other characters can only dream of having, let alone deal with, and the game just feels like it accentuates too much offense, and not enough other variations of play. There are a variety of modes with this update, but you could have 100 modes, if the core gameplay just isn't there, what is the point? Expand
  22. Jun 25, 2019
    1
    This game is just trash!! Capcom failed big time with this game smh.. The pros only play it for the money.
  23. Oct 4, 2019
    0
    This game is terrible. After you purchase it they place ads every time you select a character for some European brand that is equivalent to Target. If you think you would like to compete with your friend, be prepared to see ads for underwear before every match. The company thinks that they are in the business of selling trash to people who paid to play a game. My hope is that the CEO,This game is terrible. After you purchase it they place ads every time you select a character for some European brand that is equivalent to Target. If you think you would like to compete with your friend, be prepared to see ads for underwear before every match. The company thinks that they are in the business of selling trash to people who paid to play a game. My hope is that the CEO, Kenzo Tsujimoto, starts to take responsibility for actions of this company. There are better USA based companies, stop giving these people your money when they treat you like garbage. It is sad because I loved this franchise but they just see me as someone who wants to buy underwear from the Japanese K-mart.

    Don't waste your money on this game. Go play Fortnite instead. At least they don't make you watch underwear commercials just to select your character.
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  24. Oct 29, 2019
    0
    the series is good but this one unfortunately is bad , i bought a full game so what is the need to buy players also .
  25. Dec 2, 2019
    1
    Street Fighter V é horrível, mesmo na Arcade Edition, o fato de vc ter q pagar 30 reais para obter um grupo de 6/5 personagens é algo absurdo e o único jeito de obter um personagem de forma individual é com Fight Money (FM), pela baixa quantia de 100.000 FM e sem as cores extras e o traje. Ganhar FM é chato e demorado. A história Geral é chata, repetitiva e mal feita, já no começo você vêStreet Fighter V é horrível, mesmo na Arcade Edition, o fato de vc ter q pagar 30 reais para obter um grupo de 6/5 personagens é algo absurdo e o único jeito de obter um personagem de forma individual é com Fight Money (FM), pela baixa quantia de 100.000 FM e sem as cores extras e o traje. Ganhar FM é chato e demorado. A história Geral é chata, repetitiva e mal feita, já no começo você vê que a campanha vai ser horrível, e não é só a história geral, as histórias individuais também são assim. Em questão de design de personagens, as personagens femininas são extremamente sexualizadas como por exemplo a Laura, que usa uma bermuda Jeans tão curta q mais parece uma calcinha de jeans e uma regata q deixa a mostra de parte de seus seios, você tem tambem a cami por exemplo, que usa uma roupa que deixa sua bunda a mostra sem nenhuma necessidade. O online é chato e injusto, fazendo pessoas que estão no ranking Rookie lutarem comtra quem é Diamond, algo que não deveria acontecer, isso faz com que novos jogadores não consigam ter uma boa experiência nas rankeds e casuais, os obrigando a procurarem um saguão de batalha rookie. Além de todos esses problemas Street Fighter V Arcade Edition tem menos personagem que Ultra Street Fighter IV... Resumo: Street Fighter V Arcada Edition não vale a pena e é horrível em vários aspectos Expand
  26. Feb 3, 2020
    1
    50/50 grabs vs attacks. Slow gameplay. Lagswitch competition. Broken netcode. They nickel and dime you, the whole game is pretty much microtransactions
  27. Feb 23, 2020
    1
    Still laggy without any of my favorite characters. Staying exclusive on PlayStation and nerfing anyone who had been good in other games like Juri and Ibuki, this late I to the series is not acceptable. This game can barely play online and neglected to create a ps4 pro patch as well. Also being covered in advertising for something that has been paid for along with over priced dlc everyStill laggy without any of my favorite characters. Staying exclusive on PlayStation and nerfing anyone who had been good in other games like Juri and Ibuki, this late I to the series is not acceptable. This game can barely play online and neglected to create a ps4 pro patch as well. Also being covered in advertising for something that has been paid for along with over priced dlc every inch of the way for let down seasons after left down season. This game is just a giant let down. Expand
  28. May 29, 2020
    0
    This is the gaming equivalent of a Hollywood 'remake' that nobody asked for. Think Robocop 2014, but with no technological advancement over its predecessor. If you missed SF2-4, then go and play them - they're cheap (sometimes free!) and much better. If you're bored of those games, then you haven't really played them. If you're capcom - congrats on the 30 years of awesome Steet FighterThis is the gaming equivalent of a Hollywood 'remake' that nobody asked for. Think Robocop 2014, but with no technological advancement over its predecessor. If you missed SF2-4, then go and play them - they're cheap (sometimes free!) and much better. If you're bored of those games, then you haven't really played them. If you're capcom - congrats on the 30 years of awesome Steet Fighter games you made - how about you remake Final Fight next time? plenty of dead horses to flog and I don't think there's anything left to flog of this one. Expand
  29. Aug 5, 2021
    0
    This is the game that killed street fighter for me! Street fighter 5 is a glorified rock, paper, scissor game that panders to the brain dead masses and feeds on microtransactions. If you want to pay extra money after purchase for fixing a broken game then sure be an idiot. I remember street fighter was about actual skill whereas this game is about random chance and squeezing every lastThis is the game that killed street fighter for me! Street fighter 5 is a glorified rock, paper, scissor game that panders to the brain dead masses and feeds on microtransactions. If you want to pay extra money after purchase for fixing a broken game then sure be an idiot. I remember street fighter was about actual skill whereas this game is about random chance and squeezing every last dollar from you. A monumental fall from grace for scamcom and an insult to street fighter. Expand
  30. Dec 4, 2021
    0
    Simplesmente um lixo completo. Querem obrigar a gastar para ter OS PERSONAGENS MAIS BASICOS DA FRANQUIA. Nem no modo arcade você ganha a droga do dinheiro no jogo para liberar algum personagem. É simplesmente inaceitável e se eles desejam essas péssima experiência para seus jogadores, então eu desejo tudo de ruim pra eles. : )
  31. Jul 9, 2022
    0
    No other game has ever disappointed me so much. Donation wash. I used to love Capcom products as a kid. Now I despise her. I won't buy another game from them. I have this series associated with something pleasant from childhood. Now I hate Capcom for what they did to the series. Do not buy their products, they have already completely beguiled the coast from greed.
Metascore
87

Generally favorable reviews - based on 36 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 35 out of 36
  2. Negative: 0 out of 36
  1. Playstation Official Magazine UK
    Feb 26, 2018
    90
    This newer, stronger, much more enjoyable Street Fighter V may well be the best entry in the whole iconic series. [March 2018, p.96]
  2. Feb 26, 2018
    70
    Judging purely on the current state of Street Fighter V, with the new additions and inclusion of the season 1 and 2 characters in the Arcade Edition, it is most certainly one of the must-own fighting games on the market right now. The arcade mode is enough to warrant anyone picking up this game, even if it has arrived far too late. The FM changes are unfortunate, but the biggest peeve is that Arcade Edition itself is an extremely limited package, since everything here, barring the previous DLC characters, are free updates for owners of the original. The least Capcom could have done is put a few extra costumes and stages in there, because otherwise, the only reason to pick this up is if you don’t already have SFV and want a cheap way of buying the game and its first two character packs. SFV will have plenty more years in it, but being so tight and not turning this release into a current ultimate edition is disappointing, even if it’s not surprising.
  3. Feb 20, 2018
    80
    While I’m glad we finally got the Arcade mode SFV players always wanted, I’m left wondering who’s going to purchase this repackaged title. Those already in possession of the game get the updates for free, and I’m guessing that anyone who wanted to be competitive already bought it long ago. Those not interested in going online now have something to chew on with Arcade, but it pales in comparison to what other, more offline-friendly titles are doing. Street Fighter V: Arcade Edition is definitely a better package than Street Fighter V was at launch, but it still feels like it has a way to go.