Star Wars: The Old Republic

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  1. saddlesablazin
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    This is the first MMO that I've actually played for an extended amount of time, and I have to say I'm pretty amazed with it. There is such a vast universe that Bioware has created. And when you're done exploring this universe, there is a grossly enriching story to get involved in. There are plenty of quests that you can do as a group with other players. There are also quests you can doThis is the first MMO that I've actually played for an extended amount of time, and I have to say I'm pretty amazed with it. There is such a vast universe that Bioware has created. And when you're done exploring this universe, there is a grossly enriching story to get involved in. There are plenty of quests that you can do as a group with other players. There are also quests you can do by yourself so I think there is a great balance. Good job Bioware!… Expand
  2. Kortirion
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    After months of watching this pitiful downvoting of good games for pathetic fanboy reasons, I've decided it's time to contribute.

    The criticisms about linearity and 'lobby' gaming are understandable (the lobby instancing really turned me off from GW, but it was only part of it, and the rest of the game didn't make up for it unlike this game), but poor. I have played many MMOs (WoW, Aion,    After months of watching this pitiful downvoting of good games for pathetic fanboy reasons, I've decided it's time to contribute.

    The criticisms about linearity and 'lobby' gaming are understandable (the lobby instancing really turned me off from GW, but it was only part of it, and the rest of the game didn't make up for it unlike this game), but poor. I have played many MMOs (WoW, Aion, CoH, SWG, EvE, Warhammer Online, Rift, Vanguard, etc) and I honestly can't think of any *good* utterly sandbox MMOs. And SWTOR is *not* any more linear than any of the games I've listed. If you wanted a sandbox MMO, and you're looking for it in a game that has voice acting and cutscenes, you're doing it wrong. The story is massive, immersive, and well crafted. I've never felt so invested in my character since vanilla WoW, or let alone as excited to play an MMO for that matter. The zones are much more open than other Bioware games, and more open than in games like Aion, where i felt like a rat in a maze between quests. The warzones are fun and well designed. Perhaps the biggest weakness in this game is the lobby style zone instancing which can break immersion when grouping with others and waiting for them to transfer zones. Zones still never feel empty (like they did in GW), and I'd much rather this than have to compete for every single mob tag and deal with incessant lag.

    The graphics complaints are ridiculous. This is one of the most visually impressive games I've ever seen, and it's the apex of Bioware's excellent art style.

    The gameplay, while *similar* in core mechanics to WoW, Rift, et al, works, and plays well. You feel powerful, skilled, and in control. Why people think it had to be different in ever aspect from other MMOs completely boggles my mind with the advancements and innovations it brings in other departments.(gameplay is tied to action RPGs for a reason, what the hell did you want, a first person shooter MMO? Wait for Planetside 2.) The moddable equipment is great, and gives you the option to keep a favoured aesthetic while leveling if you desire (and happen upon the gear). The companion system is excellent, but could use some tweaking for the AI and a few glitches. The crafting system is perfect, minimizing time spent on probably one of the most tedious aspects of MMOs yet still giving you enough control.

    Flashpoints are fun and engaging, and I haven't had as much fun running an instance since being blown away by the expansive and epic BRD/UBRS/LBRS complex in WoW.

    Light side and dark side choices are interesting and suitable (from what I've seen thus far), but I am disappointed by the lack of neutral relics (I have gone light side on my main character partially as a response to this).

    It is definitely the newest gem of the MMO market, and one I see myself playing for much longer than most. Highly recommended.    … Expand
  3. Insert_Username
    Dec 23, 2011
    0
    Game is horrible, its nothing but a World of Warcraft clone only worse, the combat is not as deep as World of Warcraft and the story isn't even near as good as KOTOR or Mass Effect. Game is a big disappointment and the crappy voice acting the teeth cringing dialogue are the only things that set it apart from other games.
  4. TruthSeer
    Dec 23, 2011
    8
    *WARNING* This is an RPG MMO, with intricate story telling, with you (and your friends) as the main characters and is meant to be played as such. So all of the complaints about Endgame content, because someone chose to grind their char to max lvl the same day the game was released, instead of actually having fun playing the game... this game is obviously not intended for you. On to the*WARNING* This is an RPG MMO, with intricate story telling, with you (and your friends) as the main characters and is meant to be played as such. So all of the complaints about Endgame content, because someone chose to grind their char to max lvl the same day the game was released, instead of actually having fun playing the game... this game is obviously not intended for you. On to the game review:
    First, I would like to acknowledge the fact that SWTOR did borrow heavily from WoW. Which so happens is the most successful MMO out in the US. WoW however, had also borrowed heavily from other games, most notably EQ and Warhammer at the time and was far less stable then SWTOR is now.
    2nd, SWTOR is fun. It blends the traditional Bioware SWKOTOR/MassEffect/DragonAage RPG as we have come to know, with multiplayer instanced zones and battles. These zones are a blessing and a curse. A blessing in the respect that you don't have to wait in line for hundreds of people who are killing the same boss over and over, plus a curse because the world seems (on the surface) less populated then it really is.
    The story telling is great, for it is wonderfully engaging, well voice acted and even feels epic at times. Truly immersing you in to their StarWars universe and making you feel as if you play an important role. Light and Dark side moral choices and traditional Bioware companions/relationships are excellent additions as well (if not already expected).
    3rd the original musical score is Epic and everything you would expect from any StarWars movie.
    4rth I am not traditionally a tradeskill/farming type of player and I truly enjoy the companions doing all the tradeskill "legwork" for you. Both on and offline.
    5th PVP still needs balance. They have some creative ideas for the PVP battles, like normalizing hit points and damage, so all lvls can compete. But class bias, chaotic zerg style of fights and dieing before you can even figure who hit you, seriously needs balancing. Mind you I have not seen maxed lvl pvp. So take that from a 30 something.
    Lastly, there are a handful of minor bugs, that are noticeable, but not game shattering. Although, for some reason Bioware disabled AA during the beta and has not brought it back yet. So for now you either have to either put up with jagged edge graphics, or use Nvidia/ATI tools to force it until they patch it.
    My Rating for SWTOR: 8.2
    Gameplay: 9 (-1 for WoW esque)
    Story: 9 (Voice Acting and YOU are the main character, -1 for periodic obscure chat dialog choices)
    Sound: 10 (Traditional StarWars sound effects mixed with truly movie worthy soundtracks)
    Graphics: 7 (until they patch AA)
    PVP: 6 (Balance issues)    … Expand
  5. Bombadil
    Dec 23, 2011
    0
    Sorry but overused and worn out mmo mechanics from the last 8 years. A veiled attempt of EA and their new lap dog Bioware to cash in on the Star Wars ip. Poor Star Warsians
  6. Loosestool
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    I played WoW off and (mostly) on for seven years. WoW was successful because the gameplay struck the right balance between complex and fun, while the content struck the right balance between casual and dedicated. As the Blizz people often said, they strove to make the game easy to learn but difficult to master. Similarly, there was a ton to do whether you wanted to level every alt or focusI played WoW off and (mostly) on for seven years. WoW was successful because the gameplay struck the right balance between complex and fun, while the content struck the right balance between casual and dedicated. As the Blizz people often said, they strove to make the game easy to learn but difficult to master. Similarly, there was a ton to do whether you wanted to level every alt or focus one or two toons in endgame. Or for the unemployed, all of the above. So far, SWTOR is the clearest heir to WoW's throne and actually improves on the general concept by the enhanced story aspect. But as many reviewers have mentioned, whether people will still be playing SWTOR in seven years from today depends on how well and how quickly (like w/in six months max) Bioware rolls out enough new casual and endgame content. While I am thoroughly enjoying the game now, and will probably play at least one or two alts with the status quo, I can see getting tired of the game faster than I did WoW. Some of this is not SWTOR's fault. Frankly, I'm older now and have less disposable time. But standing on the shoulders of giants in the MMO world comes with the price of diminishing returns. We may not have seen this precise movie before, but the genre is familiar. Bioware adopted and in some ways improved on the right formula, but SWTOR's ultimate longevity will require additional substance with innovation beyond greater than average story elements/voice acting.… Expand
  7. yumdumpster
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    I really don't understand what all the negative user reviews are fro this game. it really makes think of any of these WOW fan-boys actually payed the buggy awful flowing yet oh so glorious Vanilla wow at release.

    I for one did, and remember the sometimes painful and hair pulling experience that i had getting my first Orc rogue to 60. SWTOR is bringing back those old feelings for me, the    I really don't understand what all the negative user reviews are fro this game. it really makes think of any of these WOW fan-boys actually payed the buggy awful flowing yet oh so glorious Vanilla wow at release.

    I for one did, and remember the sometimes painful and hair pulling experience that i had getting my first Orc rogue to 60. SWTOR is bringing back those old feelings for me, the game requires A bit more skill and finesse than WOW does currently. In fact one of the Biggest reasons i quit wow was because the game had become to easy, too predictable and was nearing the end of its life cycle. Dont think of SWTOR as a wow killer, think of it as breathing new life in the Genre, it is the first game that can truly challenge WOW in the mmo scene, and we all know that competition if anything will just make the two games better. I am giving the game a 9 for the level of polish that this game has at release, the amount of features it incorporates, the level of detail the developers put into the game among a number of other things. So far I am having a great experience, and at the end of the day that is all you should really want from an MMO.    … Expand
  8. JeanKeebler
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    SWTOR blows WoW out of the water. WoW has become to easy of a game to play and noobs can get epiced out in a week. Gamers want a challenge and this is it. The graphics are better, the music is better, the combat is much more exciting(force jumping into mobs while a bounty hunter jet-packs into the air and fires down missiles), the storyline is awesome including group conversation which atSWTOR blows WoW out of the water. WoW has become to easy of a game to play and noobs can get epiced out in a week. Gamers want a challenge and this is it. The graphics are better, the music is better, the combat is much more exciting(force jumping into mobs while a bounty hunter jet-packs into the air and fires down missiles), the storyline is awesome including group conversation which at sometimes can be hilarious , the landscapes are amazing and the lore may be the best on the market. These 300+ negative reviews come from people with a their panties in a bunch or a WoW forever fanboy. Open your eyes to a great start to hopefully a amazing MMORPG experience for everyone.… Expand
  9. Haristo
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    a satisfying and refreshing experience, mixing WoW and such others game mechanics with BioWare unique storytelling and level design. with smart class balancing and interresting group zones, SWTOR can be played alone and grouped. It also has a bit of everything for everybody : gentle skill based PvP system where everybody can play whatever their level. SWTOR is a great game for everybodya satisfying and refreshing experience, mixing WoW and such others game mechanics with BioWare unique storytelling and level design. with smart class balancing and interresting group zones, SWTOR can be played alone and grouped. It also has a bit of everything for everybody : gentle skill based PvP system where everybody can play whatever their level. SWTOR is a great game for everybody who enjoys the MMO genre.… Expand
  10. glen55
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    I am mainly reviewing this game just to note that it seems VERY odd that there are so many very negative reviews.

    I think it's a fantastic game. I have played pretty much all the MMOs, think SWTOR has them all beat hands-down in polish, playbility and fun, and is going to grab the larger part of the WOW fanbase. There are plenty of legitimate reasons for you to disagree with me    I am mainly reviewing this game just to note that it seems VERY odd that there are so many very negative reviews.

    I think it's a fantastic game. I have played pretty much all the MMOs, think SWTOR has them all beat hands-down in polish, playbility and fun, and is going to grab the larger part of the WOW fanbase.

    There are plenty of legitimate reasons for you to disagree with me about that, but, again, it seems odd to me that so many people seem to think this is a terrible game. Is somebody trying to spike this game on metacritic for some reason, e.g., to protect WOW which needs its large player base because it's otherwise more than a little dated?

    I've talked to at least 50 people about this game, many of them gaming veterans. It's split about 50-50 between people who agree with me and people who don't think this game is great, but think it's quite good. I haven't talked to a single actual person who has played the game and has an opinion even in the ballpark of all these negative reviewers. in fact, my 3 good friends who are guildmasters of a power guild in WOW are all abandoning their WOW accounts to start a new guild in SWTOR.    … Expand
  11. youngaviatorj
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    This game is a monumental success in entertainment history, mooove on over WoW theres a far more better immersive mmo experience by the name of Star Wars the Old Republic. This game is too good for life itsself, WoW is laying on its deathbed because of this game and biowae is pulling WoW's plug. It is time for a new mmo to dominate! May the force be with you my brothas. R.I.P. World OfThis game is a monumental success in entertainment history, mooove on over WoW theres a far more better immersive mmo experience by the name of Star Wars the Old Republic. This game is too good for life itsself, WoW is laying on its deathbed because of this game and biowae is pulling WoW's plug. It is time for a new mmo to dominate! May the force be with you my brothas. R.I.P. World Of Warcraft Nov.23.2004-Dec.20.2011 (:… Expand
  12. GreenCheetah
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    The game can be described as WoW with a Star Wars skin with Mass Effect style storytelling. I love it. The game play will be familiar with anyone who has played that other MMO. The Story is on par with BioWare's games. The game is just fun to play. I've already put in a around three days worth of game time and it has been a blast. Ignore all the trolls and give it a spin if you likedThe game can be described as WoW with a Star Wars skin with Mass Effect style storytelling. I love it. The game play will be familiar with anyone who has played that other MMO. The Story is on par with BioWare's games. The game is just fun to play. I've already put in a around three days worth of game time and it has been a blast. Ignore all the trolls and give it a spin if you liked WoW, Star Wars, or Mass Effect. If isn't broken why fix it?… Expand
  13. zzrryll
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    So, there's this theory that A Normal Person + An Audience + Anonymity = Total F***Tard. I think the majority of the negative reviews for this game support that.

    This game is a major step forward for the MMO genre, period. It combines the compelling story based gameplay of other Bioware games like Kotor and Mass Effect with the basics of the best in breed MMOs. I personally have tried    So, there's this theory that A Normal Person + An Audience + Anonymity = Total F***Tard. I think the majority of the negative reviews for this game support that.

    This game is a major step forward for the MMO genre, period. It combines the compelling story based gameplay of other Bioware games like Kotor and Mass Effect with the basics of the best in breed MMOs. I personally have tried every "wow killer" MMO that's come out since 2007, including Warhammer, Age of Conan, Aion, and Star Trek Online (tbh the only one I didn't play was Rift.) This game is really the only one, out of all of them, that has not only lived up to my expectations, but has surpassed them.

    I wasn't really looking forward to this game initially; then I got into the beta. Once I actually played the game, I started counting the days until release. Each class has class only quests that tell a compelling story about that particular class. Additionally, unlike pretty much every other major MMO, you are presented with choices during these quests lines, much like the aforementioned Kotor and Mass Effect games. All in all this is a first rate, top notch game, both from the MMO and single player perspectives.

    I'm honestly not really sure what the trolls are complaining about....if you like WoW and don't HATE Star Wars you'll enjoy this game, period.    … Expand
  14. bobby_bouscher
    Dec 23, 2011
    7
    This is not a very innovative game, more like an extension of World of Warcraft with a Star Wars skin. It is no doubt a fun and well made game, but very traditional. For those looking for innovation I would recommend researching Guild Wars 2, where they are turning the traditional mmo model upside down, in a good way!

    SWTOR will definitely be a more than sufficient placeholder for me in    This is not a very innovative game, more like an extension of World of Warcraft with a Star Wars skin. It is no doubt a fun and well made game, but very traditional. For those looking for innovation I would recommend researching Guild Wars 2, where they are turning the traditional mmo model upside down, in a good way!

    SWTOR will definitely be a more than sufficient placeholder for me in the meantime!    … Expand
  15. kirkkh
    Dec 23, 2011
    3
    I'm horribly sad at how much this game sucks. It's so upsetting. I was so excited. I even had the logo on my phone and pc wallpapers. But crap, whatever, I admit it. :(

    Why? I dunno. Boring and lifeless? It's just not fun. Sucks, sad face :(
  16. VorpalCheese
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    There are a lot of trolls and shills for other games piling on TOR here, which is expected. TOR is one of the most polished and most well-realized games I've seen at a launch and BW has really hit it out of the park with this one.

    Most criticisms revolve around TOR using MMO mechanics, which is ridiculous considering it's akin to griping about how an FPS might use guns and first-person    There are a lot of trolls and shills for other games piling on TOR here, which is expected. TOR is one of the most polished and most well-realized games I've seen at a launch and BW has really hit it out of the park with this one.

    Most criticisms revolve around TOR using MMO mechanics, which is ridiculous considering it's akin to griping about how an FPS might use guns and first-person view and deal with ammo and the like. MMOs have MMO mechanics, and no matter how much "prettying up" a developer does, the base mechanics will be what they are. Even my beloved sandbox MMOs must bow to this convention.

    TOR takes what makes an MMO great and improves on it with a fine level of polish and updating. BW has managed to remove the dreaded grind (from crafting to quests), weave top-notch story-telling throughout every corner of the game, and bring the Star Wars universe to life.

    I have been playing since the first day of Early Access. In spite of running into a few bugs (none of which are game-breaking), I have had an incredibly pleasant gaming experience. I have reached level 30 with a Sith Juggernaut and I actually care about my character and companions (well, Vette not as much, but that's what the shock collar's for :p).

    Combat is very smooth and the animations superb. I love that you aren't merely striking at empty air but are shown actually striking your opponent and blocking. I love the fast-paced combat and I love the art style, which is also beautifully realized. The planets start from "respectably-sized beginner's box" to massive "Oh, God, I need my speeder right now." They only get larger as you go. The game packs content to the brim, from soloable missions to engaging group content (and there are built-in benefits to grouping in the form of things like social points).

    I can't gush enough about TOR and if I do this will take all day to write (and I'd rather get back to playing so I'm going to wrap this up shortly). Yes, there are some minor hiccups, and thus this game doesn't get a perfect score. There are improvements to be made, but they will come in time (space combat--while passable, BW is already working to improve it--I'm looking at you). This is one of the most solid and fun foundations to an MMO I've experienced yet, and I can see really good things coming from this game with future content patches and expansions.

    If you like MMOs, BW, Star Wars, or any combination of the above, I urge you to try this game. If not now, then sometime in the future. If a sandbox lover like me can come to love a themepark game (and this might well become the pinnacle of that sub-genre), well...I think a lot of people will be surprised going in.    … Expand
  17. warpriest812
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    In short, a complete and true MMORPG. Quests and the story-telling are entertaining and FUN. They are no different than other MMO's, but the way Bioware presents them is 100x better. Warzones are similar to scenarios in Warhammer Online. I have not tried the Open World Free for All PvP yet, but am looking forward to it. So far this is the best experience I have had in an MMO.
  18. Verus76
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    With Star Wars: The Old Republic BioWare has manages a revolution in the mmorpg genre. They have added solid storytelling and voice and many small innovations such as companions and choices to what in other mmo games are a bunch of random text quests with no real meaning.

    The game perfectly captures the atmosphere of Star Wars with the music and graphics and lovingly recreated Tattoine,    With Star Wars: The Old Republic BioWare has manages a revolution in the mmorpg genre. They have added solid storytelling and voice and many small innovations such as companions and choices to what in other mmo games are a bunch of random text quests with no real meaning.

    The game perfectly captures the atmosphere of Star Wars with the music and graphics and lovingly recreated Tattoine, Hoth and other well known planets to Star Wars fans.

    Sidenote if you are giving this game 0-2 or something you are really wasting time. I can´t even think of a game bad enough to get a rating such as that. Simply go back to playing world of warcraft instead..    … Expand
  19. Kucha
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    This is the MMO I've been waiting for! This is by far the best MMO I've played to date.

    Ask me the one thing that makes this one stand out over all the others and I will say that you get to experience real and meaningful story BEFORE you get to high end raids unlike other MMOs. In other words, you already are a hero by the time you start raiding which goes a long way to satisfy casual,    This is the MMO I've been waiting for! This is by far the best MMO I've played to date.

    Ask me the one thing that makes this one stand out over all the others and I will say that you get to experience real and meaningful story BEFORE you get to high end raids unlike other MMOs. In other words, you already are a hero by the time you start raiding which goes a long way to satisfy casual, solo and small group minded players.

    Getting into raids is easier too. Not to bash WoW (which I did like), but this game doesn't require that you grind dozens if not hundreds of hours trying to get enough gear so that you can get into the significant raids where the meaningful story takes place. That endless grind and obscene demand of my time was what previously burned me out of other MMOs. Instead, you can jump into the raids right away.

    Other great aspects of this game are:

    * Fully voiced dialogue with quest givers, companions, and others.

    * Morality choices giving light or dark side points. These choices do have some impact on your game experience with quests opening up while others close based on your prior choices.

    * Companions to talk to that give you quests, craft, and grow closer (or farther) to/from you depending on how you interact with them.

    * Stable launch. Have experienced very few bugs.

    * Fun and dynamic PvP system. Reminds me of WoW in this way and this is not a bad thing.

    * Smaller raid (8 or 16 man) sizes than most other MMOs which I like.

    * Difficulty slider for Flashpoints (Dungeons) and Operations (Raids) for the casual and hard core player alike.

    * A solid crafting system that allows one to not only create new items but to upgrade existing items so that one can keep weapons and armor for the duration of their game play experience if they so choose. In other words, the crafting system is deceptively deep.

    * Fantastic music that gives me a real sense of Star Wars immersion.


    CONS

    There are a few cons and I would be remiss if I didn't mention them. Some of these are:

    * Long que waits on Sunday night for me. Both wait times lasted 25 and 30 minutes.

    * Small bug where I didn't get money from selling a few items on the auction system.

    * Coruscant is too big. Lots of running around that planet. They should've made the ground vehicle available to us allot sooner. * Inflexible and cumbersome UI. They need to allow the community to create their own mods for this.    … Expand
  20. DerpGames
    Dec 23, 2011
    0
    Terrible, terrible game. Basically a less polished, ultra glitchy, 100% instanced, not open world revision of World of Warcraft with a crappy Starwars skin placed over everything. The graphics are hideous, much like every other Bioware game. The dialogue is hilariously bad even for an MMO. Every race of character is just a slight variation of humans, ie humans with red skin, humans withTerrible, terrible game. Basically a less polished, ultra glitchy, 100% instanced, not open world revision of World of Warcraft with a crappy Starwars skin placed over everything. The graphics are hideous, much like every other Bioware game. The dialogue is hilariously bad even for an MMO. Every race of character is just a slight variation of humans, ie humans with red skin, humans with blue skin. The game is lobby based like Guild Wars, yet Bioware is trying to charge people monthly for this game. Don't support it.… Expand
  21. slidingscale
    Dec 23, 2011
    1
    I had high hopes for this. The years of teasing our interest with slickly worded tit bits of information that fired our imaginations with possibilites of great interactive battles where we contested the fortunes of the galaxy against passionate players from the opposite factions and guilds. Scenes of foreign fields strewn with the bodies of dead after clashes that pitted at least 20 or 30I had high hopes for this. The years of teasing our interest with slickly worded tit bits of information that fired our imaginations with possibilites of great interactive battles where we contested the fortunes of the galaxy against passionate players from the opposite factions and guilds. Scenes of foreign fields strewn with the bodies of dead after clashes that pitted at least 20 or 30 per side against each other in swift duelling contest of acrobatic wonder, passed vividly before the cine screen of my mind. It all seemed to be headed in that direction when the first cinematic trailer came out and I found myself raising my hand to join up and defeat the terrible scourge that was blighting the galaxy and no doubt my soon to be friends as well. With evangelistic zeal I followed the forums to glean information about the war and how I could play my part. Previous developments in the gaming industry encouraged my wild imaginings as graphics improved and the numbers post fixing the directx label continued skyward. What wonders would be performed by a new galactic combat game that could draw on such a wealth of lore, innovation and creativity? Surely the sky was now not the limit any longer? I came back to the muddy actuality of terra firma, head aching in shock and awe as the reality of what was on offer sank in to my brain and gradually destroyed my hopes for a wonderful year of living the dream.… Expand
  22. ctacconi21
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    Do u like, star wars? do u like a freaking huge word, with the most immersive story driven quest u ever seen in any mmorpg out there? do u like a deep pet system? do u like lighstabers? this game is for u, just go out and buy it.
    Star wars take all of the good and bad of the mmorpg genre, and fuse them in a unique way, his way.
    Don't expect anything ultranew, u still have sidebar, tab    Do u like, star wars? do u like a freaking huge word, with the most immersive story driven quest u ever seen in any mmorpg out there? do u like a deep pet system? do u like lighstabers? this game is for u, just go out and buy it.
    Star wars take all of the good and bad of the mmorpg genre, and fuse them in a unique way, his way.
    Don't expect anything ultranew, u still have sidebar, tab targetting, hotkey for using skills, fetch sidequest "kill 10x" etc. But the level of polish, the soundtrack, the combat animation, is just jaw dropping.
    This is the first time in 13 years of mmorpgs play, that i actually don't mind my level, i want to play just to know what happen next: is my master really trying to deceive me? i am really the new hope of the sith empire? im not bound anymore, to check my xp to the next lvl, hoping to never ever kill another 200 boars to level up.
    Im just traveling space back and fort trying to rise from a slave to a dark lord of sith, this and many more is STWOR, im playing my story, im finally playing my character the way i want to, not bound anymore, to kill everything on sight to gather xp, and proceed to the next area with no real motive other than get another lvl up.
    If u like multiplayer games, don't lose this one, i think we are not gonna see something like this for years to come.    … Expand
  23. 80y4n
    Dec 23, 2011
    2
    Well I must admit i had very high expectations for this game, but so far it is a major letdown. I just feel dissapointed as the final product is far away from what has been advertised, as the general feel of the game is been there, done that. Perhaps I enjoyed too much of wow as i played it for first 2 years, and wasnt willing to try any of the games that came after it, all advertised asWell I must admit i had very high expectations for this game, but so far it is a major letdown. I just feel dissapointed as the final product is far away from what has been advertised, as the general feel of the game is been there, done that. Perhaps I enjoyed too much of wow as i played it for first 2 years, and wasnt willing to try any of the games that came after it, all advertised as potential wow killers, but bringing nothing new to the table, spelling their fast demise. I expected bioware will be a company to finally rearrange the niche so deeply carved by blizzard, and to revolutionise the concept that only works for wow on a global scale. Comparison with wow is unavoidable, as two game are so alike, you will feel like wow was reskinned, and that comes from someone who was away from wow for some time now. I truely feel that the art direction looks outdated and animation is nothing special, world is disjointed and instanced, quests are hit and miss, mostly miss, and combat system is seen numerous times, so i predict fast decline in player population when players figure out that there is nothing new on the table… Expand
  24. kamryu
    Dec 23, 2011
    7
    2 out of 3 story (at times generic and predictable but the addition of voice acting makes you care unless your one of those people looking for a grind fest where you can just pick up a quest go do it level up and get your gear soon as possible,plenty of choice quest wise also)
    1 out of 3 game play (yes its a wow clone)
    2 out of 3 Social/Multiplayer (people calling it a solo game full of    2 out of 3 story (at times generic and predictable but the addition of voice acting makes you care unless your one of those people looking for a grind fest where you can just pick up a quest go do it level up and get your gear soon as possible,plenty of choice quest wise also)
    1 out of 3 game play (yes its a wow clone)
    2 out of 3 Social/Multiplayer (people calling it a solo game full of **** they are not gonna do a flashpoint solo or a heroic unless they are over leveled for them same as any other MMO also the addition of social conversation choices adds a good little mix to it never know if your party member wins the role you might be about to kill a ton of innocents or end up having to go the long way round).
    1 out of 2 for graphics (cartoony one or two bugs)
    1 out of 2 customization very limited character image choice races seem to similar only 4 body types user interface not very customizable, on the plus the advance class system means not all consular are going to be the same you ll become a sage or a shadow knight becomes guardian or sentinel and this is before you start deciding on a talent tree to advance through.
    total 7 out of 10.

    Now into some nitty gritty. As I said sometimes the quests can be predictable for instance training a militia you know is going to be a case of go out kill some things and return (boring and predictable) but at the same time you ll get some quests which will make you have to decide for instance recover some medical supplies for the army only to find out refugees are the ones who stole it and they need them you ll be presented with a social choice leave them with the refugees or take them back for the army this in turn has an effect on whether your light side or dark side points go up (some grey would be nice like splitting the supplies between the two). The voice acting is good and if your someone who actually CARES about story and reasons why your doing things you ll enjoy it if however your one of those people who plays games like wow and never even reads the quest because all that matters to you is what is the reward for doing it then it will be nothing more than annoying to you.
    Gameplay is such a clone of all other previous MMO's its almost an insult the few features such as cover (limited to smuggler and imperial agent) add some interest but otherwise be prepared to be playing as you always have (oh yeah no auto attack which personally I feel is actually a good thing) I would have gave 0 out of 3 for this but truth is the system does work it might be boring but reality is the click buttons feature works (just as point and click works for fps I are not going to give an fps review 0 because its point and click why should I give tor 0 because its the same as the others).
    Social would be 3 if not for the simple fact planets are instanced so you don't see lots of people sure you can chat with them and if you want you can chance the instance your on to another version of it very easily just bring up world map and click the pull down menu for it down the bottom right. Flashpoints are pretty good again the addition of rolling on decisions within them adds a nice element never forget how annoyed my first group was when I passed on the free money at the end of our first instance and won the roll meaning no one got the money to you this may seem annoying the point is it adds a new layer of social interaction your going to care about who you group with and such. Heroics also add to social interaction since your not going to solo these quests yourself they are designed for group each planet has around a minimum 3 or 4 of these and they each tell a story its not just a case of go kill this elite mob because well its an elite mob sure your going to be killing an elite mob but before your killing it your going to run around sabotaging his ship because he is using it to smuggle slaves.
    Graphics are cartoony and have a few glitches I would not say it doe snot work the thing is its an MMO it needs a wide audience so of course its not going to be the best graphically and people who expect it are the same people who have blown thousands on their PC not everyone can afford to graphics score for me is out of 2 cause I don't prioritize them.

    People saying not a WoW killer and scoring 0 saying just a WoW clone your not reviewing the game your comparing it to WoW there thats not a review.    … Expand
  25. giovanni
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    It's extremely funny to read reviews from people that bash the game to bits while they've been submitted on the day of release, which means they didn't even play it. Everyone played the beta and are basing their arguments on issues that were present there. Yes the game still has things that need to be fixed but by all means it's idiotic to bash something that doesn't even have a week inIt's extremely funny to read reviews from people that bash the game to bits while they've been submitted on the day of release, which means they didn't even play it. Everyone played the beta and are basing their arguments on issues that were present there. Yes the game still has things that need to be fixed but by all means it's idiotic to bash something that doesn't even have a week in existence.
    Arguments about PvP being unbalanced are a joke. Classes will get adjustments in the coming weeks as it's been said by the devs. It's logical for some things to be "wrong" since there are games (no i won't mention which) that run for over 5 years and are still incredibly unbalanced.
    All in all this game has massive potential. It looks very nice, the combat, in my opinion, is pretty fun and the story for each character is just plainly put, amazing. The planets are MASSIVE, apart from the two starting planets, which just get you into the story before getting started. To explore the whole of Tattoine or Alderaan you need at least a couple of hours. Quests are extremelly fun to do, as there are no "kill 20 of x" quests in the game. They do exist but ONLY appear as bonus quests in certain areas while you're doing your main quests and you can just skip them, as they disappear from your log when you leave.
    If you've been thinking of playing an MMO, i suggest you give it a try. It's an amazing journey to take. Haters will hate as they say. When someone types in their review that "It's like WoW in space" and grades it with a "2" or worse, it just shows how bad fanboys can hurt a good upcoming game. If it's as good as wow, then why do you slap it down..?
    It's far from perfect and that's why i give it an 8. But it's only the beginning and i'm having high hopes!    … Expand
  26. BradleyBondage
    Dec 23, 2011
    9
    Excellent game been playing it non stop with my friend ever since it came out. Easy to get used to really enjoyable experience cannot comment on the end game experience yet but so far its one of the best mmorpg's I've ever played.
  27. RolandDeschain
    Dec 23, 2011
    10
    This is KOTOR with multiplayer and at least ten times more content than ordinary KOTOR 3 might have had. Any KOTOR fan can only be impressed.;)
    I hope WoW fanboys and **** trolls will find better things to do than spamming this site and SWTOR with bad ratings and reviews.
  28. Andrewlol
    Dec 23, 2011
    4
    the game starts it bad with soo much little choices to create a unique character , cause everything looks the freakin same , get into the game and the soo praised story gets boring on the third quest , combat fells so outdate and its exactly like wow , the whole game feels like wow but the good tools in wow like dual spec , lfg tool , raid finder tool, are missing althogether , finding athe game starts it bad with soo much little choices to create a unique character , cause everything looks the freakin same , get into the game and the soo praised story gets boring on the third quest , combat fells so outdate and its exactly like wow , the whole game feels like wow but the good tools in wow like dual spec , lfg tool , raid finder tool, are missing althogether , finding a group to do a flashpoints is so hard cause the lfg channel is useless , pvp is no way near balanced cause when you join a warzone at lv 10 and face a bunch of 50s you see the whole increasing stats system and no brackets falls apart, i dont know whats in the end game but if its close to early and mid game , you gonna see a hugeeee drops in the subs after the first free month.At least for me i wont be coming back after the first month if i play the whole mwhahaha ;p.I put the wrong score on ma other rewiew mwhaha… Expand
  29. aretezea
    Dec 23, 2011
    2
    sorry EA but this is a disappointment. Why the hell did you not copy SWG? This Game is a future-WOW. Same movements, same landscape... I wait so long for this Game...
  30. Trotter
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    This is one of the best MMOs to date. Despite having a few minor bugs (first week of release), SWTOR manages to create game-play that rivals and surpasses WoW and other big competitors. I'd like to make this short so here I go.
    Pros:
    *Great story, fully voice and completely different for all classes *Companions help you with crew skills which takes out the monotony and grind of leveling    This is one of the best MMOs to date. Despite having a few minor bugs (first week of release), SWTOR manages to create game-play that rivals and surpasses WoW and other big competitors. I'd like to make this short so here I go.
    Pros:
    *Great story, fully voice and completely different for all classes
    *Companions help you with crew skills which takes out the monotony and grind of leveling crafting/gathering skills
    *PvP is extremely balanced. No one class can rule them all or survive a fight forever, aka Paladins in WoW
    *PvP warzones are completely unique and fun to play
    *Item customization/upgrades allow you to keep a weapon or piece of armor til end game if you choose and remain competitive , though, it requires work.
    *Great graphics especially for an MMO
    *Music and sounds in game are all consistent with the Star Wars universe you will often hear epic music during your fights and travels *Quests, flashpoints, and operations are really challenging. Bioware doesn't assume that you're a retard like Blizzard does and make everything so simple and easy that it's boring.

    Cons:
    *Minor non-gamebreaking bugs, will likely be patched soon
    *Server wait times can get a little long, Bioware needs to allow server transfers for characters
    *Instanced servers

    ps. Don't listen to the haters, it's well worth the money.    … Expand
  31. 200mg
    Dec 22, 2011
    7
    My MMO Credentials: WoW, AOC, WaR, Aion, Rift

    SWOTR is great, the allegations of this being "WoW with VO" are wildly inaccurate. The game play is fun and fast paced, the story is deep, and all of the accompanying media (voice and music) are extremely well done. They have done a splendid job of Star Wars universe immersion. One only has to play the game for a short period of time before    My MMO Credentials: WoW, AOC, WaR, Aion, Rift

    SWOTR is great, the allegations of this being "WoW with VO" are wildly inaccurate. The game play is fun and fast paced, the story is deep, and all of the accompanying media (voice and music) are extremely well done.

    They have done a splendid job of Star Wars universe immersion. One only has to play the game for a short period of time before it becomes apparent that SWOTR is not a status quo MMO. For Star Wars fans this is a must play. For non Star Wars fans looking for a new mmo universe to migrate to, SWOTR offers you a less "grindy" and fresh new take on a gaming genre desperately seeking new play styles.

    As of 12/23/11 1:21AM CST SWOTR has garnered a 5.9 user score on meta, this is blasphemy! 10/10 all the way. This game is great!    … Expand
  32. cleppy
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Haters gonna hate. This is great game. it plays the familiar territory with adding in enough new to keep your interest. Already level capped with 1 toon, working on another. The ones who complain about it being non-social, probably didn't have a guild or work with others, because it constantly is encouraging group activities, also there are world bosses and plenty of instances through outHaters gonna hate. This is great game. it plays the familiar territory with adding in enough new to keep your interest. Already level capped with 1 toon, working on another. The ones who complain about it being non-social, probably didn't have a guild or work with others, because it constantly is encouraging group activities, also there are world bosses and plenty of instances through out leveling. The big thing here thati loved, is there is a story. When I'm not running with guildies and I'm playing the game, i'm actually playing a game, not a random grindfest. The game works to give you the feeling that you are always working towards a greater goal, especially in the class specific quest lines. I love how I've actually read some people saying this is like a free to play grindfest. It is NOTHING like those games. Every game is going to have its 'I hate the game cause it's not what I play' style haters.

    If you like MMO's, you like RPG's, you like your choices effecting things, great gameplay. This is a great place to be.    … Expand
  33. locustgrove
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Cool features i love that wow doesnt have
    1.you can gear your companion's (there is more then a few) and they do almost as much dps as you do,they can tank heal or dps.
    2.the crafting is awesome you can level your modable gear with you,your companion's do all your farming for you leaving you free to quest or do what you want. 3.Your own space ship!! it acts as storage your crew is in it    Cool features i love that wow doesnt have
    1.you can gear your companion's (there is more then a few) and they do almost as much dps as you do,they can tank heal or dps.
    2.the crafting is awesome you can level your modable gear with you,your companion's do all your farming for you leaving you free to quest or do what you want.
    3.Your own space ship!! it acts as storage your crew is in it you can go on space missions with it and its like player houseing 4.voice overs 100% if you like masseffect there is no reason not to like this game the story is amazing i dont think a lot of people relize the scope of the story it moves a little slower then a single person game cause its sooo long till level 50 you can finish masseffect 2 in 12 hours you just cant do that here there is way more story.
    5. you can tank with a gun heal with a gun ..
    6. you can choose your story do you want to kill this guy and be evil or let him go and be good,save some pirates who stole your vaccene or see them all suffer and die its up to you.
    I played wow for 6 years it doesnt feel like a wow clone to me maybe thats cause i played mmos before wow..like asherons call.    … Expand
  34. genericuser8888
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    This is a great game. It feel like the old KOTOR xbox games with some MMO elements thrown in. I've played Rift and WoW. a lot off people are bashing this game needlessly because they've built this huge character and "l33t" skills in WoW and are mad about their guildmates quitting to go play this game instead. Forget the haters. If you liked the old KOTOR single player games, you willThis is a great game. It feel like the old KOTOR xbox games with some MMO elements thrown in. I've played Rift and WoW. a lot off people are bashing this game needlessly because they've built this huge character and "l33t" skills in WoW and are mad about their guildmates quitting to go play this game instead. Forget the haters. If you liked the old KOTOR single player games, you will likely like this game. On a good system, the games LOOKS GREAT. Playing WoW after playing this is like taking a step back in time. Of course, that's assuming you have a decent pc.… Expand
  35. kremeovsumgai
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    The world is immersive, and the quest system is setup great. I really like the spoken dialogue with the Mass Effect dialogue wheel. Weapons crafting is really addicting. I spent an hour just modifying my lightsaber. The queue for servers was annoying at first, but that's bound to happen when you're trying to play a really popular game at release. I'd be worried about the game's futureThe world is immersive, and the quest system is setup great. I really like the spoken dialogue with the Mass Effect dialogue wheel. Weapons crafting is really addicting. I spent an hour just modifying my lightsaber. The queue for servers was annoying at first, but that's bound to happen when you're trying to play a really popular game at release. I'd be worried about the game's future if there wasn't a wait. Star Wars fans will be satisfied. Comparisons to WOW and bashing are going to be there, but no one really cares about whining weekend beta testers that played the game for 5 mins. This site should have proof of purchase for all user game reviews. I haven't heard one paying customer that I know have anything bad to say about this game.… Expand
  36. Lukeboe
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    There's a surprising amount of confusion, and idiocy, surrounding the release of this MMO. NEWS FLASH, this is an MMO. I'm not sure what is confusing or misleading about that. The standard MMO mechanics are here that have been around for a decade; however, this game never advertised itself as anything different. If you go in expecting an MMO, it delivers and then goes beyond with immersingThere's a surprising amount of confusion, and idiocy, surrounding the release of this MMO. NEWS FLASH, this is an MMO. I'm not sure what is confusing or misleading about that. The standard MMO mechanics are here that have been around for a decade; however, this game never advertised itself as anything different. If you go in expecting an MMO, it delivers and then goes beyond with immersing class stories and top notch voice acting. If you go in expecting something other than a traditional MMO, it falls short. People can argue and complain about the huge budget, subscription fees, grinding, leveling, skill trees, or whatever until the rest of us go deaf, but it won't change what this game is at it's core. It's a polished, accessible, and incredibly fun MMO. I've been playing since October and have seen the game evolve first hand. It's made amazing progress. There are still shortcomings for sure. The graphics lack intricate detail but most of it still looks pretty darn good and the world's are vast and varied. Space combat exists as a mini-game but it is good for what it is, and BioWare already confirmed it will be expanded. The UI is clunky, but functional. I've gotten used to it over time. The questing can start to wear you down, but it's paced very well and it seems that whenever I am just getting tired of the questing on a planet I am whisked off to a different one. What this game does right far outshines it's faults in my eyes. The stories are all interesting and packed with humor. They're a ton of fun. The combat is pretty standard skill rotation, but the animations are fluid and the sound of combat feels perfect. The sounds of blaster fire, explosions, and lightsabers crashing against one another was very well done, as was the music and voice acting. There are some odd moments in the voice acting, but overall it's really solid. Companions are a welcome addition too. I could go on and on because there is a plethora of content in this game and we're only at launch, which is the smoothest launch I've seen in 10 years and about a dozen different MMOs. BioWare did well with the Star Wars IP and their first foray into the MMO genre is a huge success in my opinion. I wouldn't rate it a perfect 10, more like an 8.5, but with all the stupid 0-2 ratings from people who try to judge the graphics compared to Crysis or Skyrim, or the combat system to Guild Wars 2 (which doesn't even have a release date yet!)... I have to give it a 10 to offset the shear amount of scared naysayer fanboys. In my honest opinion, this is an MMO worth checking out at least for the first free month. It doesn't bring many new ideas to the table, but the stories are worth the entrance fee, and the sci-fi atmosphere is a nice change from the elves and dwarfs of other fantasy lands.… Expand
  37. jreimert
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Been playing since beta and I am in love with this game. It is a refreshing change-up after playing WOW for 5 years and EQ for 7 years before that. Sure - it has a few flaws and is lacking some content - does anyone remember wow or EQ when they were released? Bioware has done a fantastic job - I am hooked for now and as long as content continues to build and improve over the next 6Been playing since beta and I am in love with this game. It is a refreshing change-up after playing WOW for 5 years and EQ for 7 years before that. Sure - it has a few flaws and is lacking some content - does anyone remember wow or EQ when they were released? Bioware has done a fantastic job - I am hooked for now and as long as content continues to build and improve over the next 6 months, they will probably keep me entertained for a few more years/… Expand
  38. Thunderballs
    Dec 22, 2011
    2
    This game was a rushed, crapfest. Not worth rating. It's just nothing you havent seen before. It is a single-player game hiding in an MMO title. Interface is atrocious. Mechanics are awful. PvP is imbalanced. Companions create distress between parties. Lacks the major features that make WoW such a successful game - dungeon finder, raid finder, pvp queuer, organized talent system. It'sThis game was a rushed, crapfest. Not worth rating. It's just nothing you havent seen before. It is a single-player game hiding in an MMO title. Interface is atrocious. Mechanics are awful. PvP is imbalanced. Companions create distress between parties. Lacks the major features that make WoW such a successful game - dungeon finder, raid finder, pvp queuer, organized talent system. It's basically a downgrade from playing WoW.… Expand
  39. bden19
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    WoW is an Everquest clone. Get over yourself and this tired old argument of "cloning". Everyone giving this game a bad comment has the attention span of "Click guy with !, ignore text, click accept, OMGWHEREDOIGO???, click ?" . This game isn't for people who need to be spoon fed ez mode raids. How much content are you expecting an MMO to have at launch? What did wow have at launch in termsWoW is an Everquest clone. Get over yourself and this tired old argument of "cloning". Everyone giving this game a bad comment has the attention span of "Click guy with !, ignore text, click accept, OMGWHEREDOIGO???, click ?" . This game isn't for people who need to be spoon fed ez mode raids. How much content are you expecting an MMO to have at launch? What did wow have at launch in terms of raid content?

    When has anyone ever played an mmo where leveling wasn't some sort of a grind? Are these kids serious with that argument? The grind in this game is actually FUN. Bonus quests pop up to incline you to actually kill your way to the objective. And they aren't just kill quests, and the quest content itself varies due to it being voiced over. All of it. All quests. Not to mention the Flashpoints (dungeons) that are very fun. PVP is scaled and is not OP at all, people screaming OP are screaming that they are not good at playing the class that they attempted.

    This is a very good game. And anyone trying to spoil it for you with a bad review about false things is just terribad.

    To sum it up, this game requires more thinking and strategy going into fights,    … Expand
  40. Jillie_Beene
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    So far, I really enjoy this game. Yes, it has aspects of WoW, as well as other MMO game. No, it isn't perfect. However, it is fun, and allows me to play my own way, whether evil or good, which hasn't really been done in an MMO to any reasonable degree. Space combat is enjoyable thus far, although pure flight-sim, skill-based players will be disappointed by the sense of the spaceSo far, I really enjoy this game. Yes, it has aspects of WoW, as well as other MMO game. No, it isn't perfect. However, it is fun, and allows me to play my own way, whether evil or good, which hasn't really been done in an MMO to any reasonable degree. Space combat is enjoyable thus far, although pure flight-sim, skill-based players will be disappointed by the sense of the space combat being on rails. However, for the rest of us, it makes space combat approachable and not excessively frustrating. What strikes me about SW: TOR is that the game would be enjoyable even if I were playing single player. It doesn't use the crutch of "the only reason this is fun is because I'm playing with my friends" although to progress through certain parts, you really should group up with others. I personally like the "public areas" and "private" areas, which allows me to have my own story without 20 other people interfering. What is interesting is that I actually care about the story, which has not been the case in any of the other MMOs that I have played. I actually want to know what happens next, not the "push next until quest is in log" I have not reached the end game yet, so I can't comment on that yet. Perfect? No. Fun? Yes. Well worth the money and time spent so far.… Expand
  41. Tridus
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    Some of these complaints are just silly. I swear people buy a game without doing any kind of research on it. They didn't promise some revolutionary new gameplay. They pretty much promised WoW, only with Star Wars and a better plot. They delivered that. If you're disappointed because you made up wild expectations and then didn't get them, that's your problem and not the fault of the game.Some of these complaints are just silly. I swear people buy a game without doing any kind of research on it. They didn't promise some revolutionary new gameplay. They pretty much promised WoW, only with Star Wars and a better plot. They delivered that. If you're disappointed because you made up wild expectations and then didn't get them, that's your problem and not the fault of the game. I'm docking some points for the UI being clumbsy, but the game itself is quite fun and the story is great (particularly compared to the disaster that is Cataclysm).… Expand
  42. sindra
    Dec 22, 2011
    0
    I cannot express how much of a disappointment this game is. People saying that it is a WoW clone are incorrect - it does not even do that well. I'm a massive star wars fan and have enjoyed most of Bioware's previous offerings from Baldur's Gate to Dragon Age. The only thing in this game worth experiencing is some of the story, and that is definitely a finite experience - my advice is toI cannot express how much of a disappointment this game is. People saying that it is a WoW clone are incorrect - it does not even do that well. I'm a massive star wars fan and have enjoyed most of Bioware's previous offerings from Baldur's Gate to Dragon Age. The only thing in this game worth experiencing is some of the story, and that is definitely a finite experience - my advice is to play one of Bioware's previous games that is written better and offers the same story-style experience without forcing you to suffer through a pale imitation of WoW's tired MMO gameplay model - read: WoW has much more fun gameplay than this. Smoother combat, more involved quest mechanics that occasionally engage you - use an item to put on a disguise, sneak into a camp and kill target. SWTOR is - Kill X mobs. Get X items from dead mobs. Pick up X items off the ground. Talk to X. Aaaand that's about it. Customization is atrocious. To have access to the Star Wars license and only have humans with facepaint is such a missed opportunity it's a crime. This isn't Star Trek where you're limited to humans with stuff on their face! There's a rich background with amazing races! Use them, players love them!

    I rolled a bounty hunter, I wanted to use a rifle, or maybe a cool staffy pike thing. Hell, Bounty Hunters in the movies do it. Surely in a STAR WARS ROLEPLAYING GAME I should be able to do that, right? WRONG. You're a bounty hunter? You use pistols. Next. You're a spy? You use rifles. Next. Just lazy and inexcusable. Even in WoW, there are class limitations but within that you are free to pick! My warrior can use a mace, axe, sword, dagger, 2h versions of all those, bow, gun, etc! Pathetic when WoW lays your character's options low. Once players are finished with their stories, this game will not be able to stand up to the competition, period. There is one raid, and three battlegrounds. That's it for endgame, other than that I hope you like sitting in the cantina roleplaying because that's all there is to do. It's missing so many standard MMO features it's painful to think about! Day/night cycles are missing, NO GUILD BANK!?!? No guild progression system of any kind. Welcome back to 2003! Oh wait, SWG and games back then had those. Welcome to a bad MMO. No LFG, horrible pet AI (yes pets, that's all companions are), god-awful UI, no addon support, no swimming, nooo thanks.

    Standard features in other MMOs like limiting who can roll need on what is absent, have fun the first time some sith ninjas your bounty hunter armor because his companion needs it, because it will happen many times. I really hope GW2 comes out soon.    … Expand
  43. commonperson
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    It's amazing how many people are giving the game scores of 0 or 1 where they've played the game for 30 minutes. This game is not perfect, they did not innovate in the gameplay department they took a working system (which is something they have said they were going to do from the begining) and applied their story telling techniques to it. The gameplay is reminiscent of dozens of otherIt's amazing how many people are giving the game scores of 0 or 1 where they've played the game for 30 minutes. This game is not perfect, they did not innovate in the gameplay department they took a working system (which is something they have said they were going to do from the begining) and applied their story telling techniques to it. The gameplay is reminiscent of dozens of other games before it, there are limitations to the UI BUT what it does bring is an actual story. WoW was never compelling because there was no worth to your character it was a collection of OCD traits for hording collecting compiled in to an avatar. SWTOR creates characters where your decisions reflect on your story, you have a real weight behind your character and there is actual connections with the other players on your "Stage" the complaints it's "Zoned" and a "lobby" game are not really well founded. The game is instanced but it's easy to jump between them and given the immediate load it's probably best they did this as it saved them a lot of server trouble.

    It boils down to this, if you like Bioware stories, if you like Star Wars' Expanded Universe, if you like feeling like you're actually achieving something with your character you will enjoy this game. If you are looking for something to "reinvent the genre" go elsewhere.    … Expand
  44. EndOfRine
    Dec 22, 2011
    5
    I miss the days when reviews weren't paid for by the publisher of the game being reviewed. This game has some good points, to be sure, but any knucklehead giving it an 8-10 is deluding themselves, or flat out trolling. Personally, I didn't enjoy the game, as it was way, way, way too similar to WoW, but if that's your thing, more power to ya, but PLEASE don't try and obfuscate the factI miss the days when reviews weren't paid for by the publisher of the game being reviewed. This game has some good points, to be sure, but any knucklehead giving it an 8-10 is deluding themselves, or flat out trolling. Personally, I didn't enjoy the game, as it was way, way, way too similar to WoW, but if that's your thing, more power to ya, but PLEASE don't try and obfuscate the fact that it IS a WoW clone, and they STATED that straying from the WoW formula was bad business.… Expand
  45. nhpc
    Dec 22, 2011
    4
    It's World of Warcraft in space with better music. There is nothing revolutionary about the game, contrary to what the paid reviews and shills would like you to believe
  46. Choleer
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    Lets see, you get your own ship, space missions, companions, crew skills, flashpoints, heroic areas, voice acting, great main story line, commendations, dark/light side, item modifications, etc... yea seems like a WoW rip-off, doesn't it?

    Dont be discouraged by some of the reviews here, giving it less than 6 is just pure stupidity because the game offers a lot even though it might look    Lets see, you get your own ship, space missions, companions, crew skills, flashpoints, heroic areas, voice acting, great main story line, commendations, dark/light side, item modifications, etc... yea seems like a WoW rip-off, doesn't it?

    Dont be discouraged by some of the reviews here, giving it less than 6 is just pure stupidity because the game offers a lot even though it might look similar to some mmos out there and even wow but that doesn't make it a bad game! Yes, it has few weaknesses but i'd rather mention couple of bugs, texture popping or full servers (even website), than bashing it for not being the 100% original game. If you are a star wars fan, don't hesitate and go for it! If you are not, you will still have a lot of fun with this game.    … Expand
  47. Sygon
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Amazing game, started MMO's back in the day of Everquest and have yet had the feeling of "magic" like this game has created.

    Story- No MMO in HISTORY has ever made you feel like a true hero like SWTOR will. Excellent questing. Combat- WTFBBQ I acutally saw my guy parry an attack?! Combat animation TOP notch for an MMO. Classes- You will not find a better mix of classes for creative,    Amazing game, started MMO's back in the day of Everquest and have yet had the feeling of "magic" like this game has created.

    Story- No MMO in HISTORY has ever made you feel like a true hero like SWTOR will. Excellent questing.
    Combat- WTFBBQ I acutally saw my guy parry an attack?! Combat animation TOP notch for an MMO.
    Classes- You will not find a better mix of classes for creative, not your typical roles that we have used for the past 15 years
    Zones- Very lifelike, cities that are well..... very large like cities. Tatooine, Corescant, Nar Shadaa, gorgeous and large.
    Companions/Crafting- Best system in the world especially for those dads like me who dont want to take precious gaming time to sit infront of a forge, your companion crafts for you as well as gather materials.
    Size- This game is the largest MMO I have ever encountered in sheer SIZE, planets are very large and beautiful.

    People who say the graphics are terrible know nothing about graphics, the amount of polygons in each character is amazing, lighting, the amount of color put into objects very very impressive, this game will look great 5 years from now because of its style.

    If you are thinking about getting this game it is a MUST have.    … Expand
  48. desukarhu
    Dec 22, 2011
    1
    I can't fathom how some people actually praise this game. I played the beta and read the general chat, I was stunned that people were actually saying how they love the game. This is the worst P2P MMORPG out there right now. I could name 3-4 F2P MMORPGs that are better. It seriously just pisses me off how blind people are. Is it because you waited for the game for so long that you don'tI can't fathom how some people actually praise this game. I played the beta and read the general chat, I was stunned that people were actually saying how they love the game. This is the worst P2P MMORPG out there right now. I could name 3-4 F2P MMORPGs that are better. It seriously just pisses me off how blind people are. Is it because you waited for the game for so long that you don't want to be disappointed? Is it because you are hardcore Star Wars fans? I just don't understand. I'm a Star Wars fan, I'm a MMORPG fan and I don't currently play any MMORPG so I'm not rating this down because I'm a "fanboy" of some other game. Just please, people, open your eyes.… Expand
  49. cwp62492
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Finally, a game that delivers the Star Wars experience gamers like myself have been waiting years for. Give it a couple months for patching and such, it'll be legit.
  50. casshern09
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    Superb game. Dont pay attention to the morons who give games zero. If you are a fan of Star Wars, you like MMO's and love story driven games. Stop sitting here and go buy it.
  51. jzilla
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    very fun game , i'm level 21 and loving it! I also have a level 17 Trooper and he is a lot of fun too!
    I love the Jedi Sage and I want to roll a Jedi Shadow soon!
  52. Fuse
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    I love the storylines, I love the setting, and I'm a huge fan of the way the game immerses you. If anything, it just seems like it took some of the best stuff the KOTOR games had to offer, and added some MMO functionality onto it. If anything, the MMO parts are its weak points. Thankfully, the option of playing it as a single-player game, with only the multiplayer you want to deal with,I love the storylines, I love the setting, and I'm a huge fan of the way the game immerses you. If anything, it just seems like it took some of the best stuff the KOTOR games had to offer, and added some MMO functionality onto it. If anything, the MMO parts are its weak points. Thankfully, the option of playing it as a single-player game, with only the multiplayer you want to deal with, makes it worth playing.… Expand
  53. Warfist
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Spent months in beta, watched the game evolve into one of, if not the, best MMO's I have ever played (after 15 years of playing them) BioWare has laid an excellent foundation to build upon for years to come.
  54. Bithammer
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    Having played both WoW and WAR, I feel SWTOR is superior to both. WoW feels like a cartoon compared to SW's rich textures and lighting. PVE gameplay has been engaging and I like the fact that you can duel your own side. Other than that, I haven't had the chance to get into PvP, so we'll see how that pans out. I've encountered a few terrain (stuck) and graphic glitches, but all in all aHaving played both WoW and WAR, I feel SWTOR is superior to both. WoW feels like a cartoon compared to SW's rich textures and lighting. PVE gameplay has been engaging and I like the fact that you can duel your own side. Other than that, I haven't had the chance to get into PvP, so we'll see how that pans out. I've encountered a few terrain (stuck) and graphic glitches, but all in all a great launch for a complex game.… Expand
  55. Darthultros
    Dec 22, 2011
    3
    This was supposed to be a great game, but Bioware fall short on this, here is why: Lazy

    This is perhaps the biggest misstep. Bioware and Evil Arts cut corners by licensing the HeroEngine instead of developing their own. Now, as a developer professionally, I would normally say "Good for them," but it is painfully clear not much money went into developing this engine into something for a    This was supposed to be a great game, but Bioware fall short on this, here is why: Lazy

    This is perhaps the biggest misstep. Bioware and Evil Arts cut corners by licensing the HeroEngine instead of developing their own. Now, as a developer professionally, I would normally say "Good for them," but it is painfully clear not much money went into developing this engine into something for a AAA MMO. As of 9/2011, the engine still does not support multiple cores nor a 64-bit client. Even WoW supports multiple cores and a 64-bit client.

    This is sloth, and the fact that BW/EA did not bother to invest in the backbone of this game. Players will burn through your content and dialog. And when they get into the routine of playing the repetitive parts of the game, they will really start to notice how little was put into this engine.

    Ignoring your users

    The community management sucks. The interaction is canned corporate responses. There is no detail, the only admitted problem is Taris and that's only because quite literally hundreds of players have fallen into a figurative black hole on that world. This is a poor way to treat your community. To treat them like children. As if giving them information is something they could not handle. Your customers are not asking you to cater to their every whim (well, most of them), but they do enjoy having information that allows them to make informed decisions... like... do they actually need to upgrade, or do you have a really crappy, inefficient engine that you'll eventually patch and do we just suffer or spend our money to get new hardware. Stuff like that. This smacks of pride.

    Being greedy

    Another major misstep here was the revocation of a grace period and only reinstating a small span of time after the community set you on fire for it. Given the insanity of the postal services during this time of year, the seven day grace period would have shown forethought and consideration. Can't let those players play an extra week! They could be giving us money instead!

    Given the fact that this is EA, if the cost of maintaining a viable player base, due to initial craptacular implementation or lack of project planning, costs more money, they are going to court the players until they at least make ends meet so they can save some face in front of the investors.

    One of the reasons WoW did so well was that Blizzard had all its eggs in that basket. SCII and D3 were not coming out for a long, long time and SC:Ghost was scrapped. They had to stick it out and make it profitable and look at it now. Be sure, if EA can figure out the numbers to make their enterprise more profitable that does not involve SWTOR (in the short term), they'll cut this project quick.

    Fostering anger in their community

    This one is on the community management again. They foster this environment. Poor details, poor handling of users, poor customer service. Closing duplicate threads with the snarky "Go here" as if to hide the sheer number of pissed off people. It all contributes to the community's anger at how this is being mishandled. Eventually, that anger is going to translate into people not staying past the free 30 days.

    WoW Clone, Family Guy Style

    This game is WoW without all the bells in whistles. It starts out sleeker than WoW, but is missing things that are pretty integral to WoW's success during the end of Vanilla and Burning Crusade. A solid end-game, both PvE and PvP. Better community tools like a group finder (I mean a group finder, not a cross-faction hullabaloo) and so forth. Three years and 100 million dollars for a watered down WoW clone with an exhaustible story and thoroughly abused IP.

    Engorging your servers

    I chalk this up to servers. Yes, everyone has launch issues, but given the fact that they put us through that painful EGA, you would think they would have put in the infrastructure to migrate your character to a different one, put in some server caps to prevent qs and everything else. Nope, not happening. So instead they have engorged themselves on players and we are all suffering for it.    … Expand
  56. Haelium
    Dec 22, 2011
    1
    In a nutshell, this is WoW with lightsabers and a dialogue wheel. The writing seems like something you would expect from a 10 year old who saw episode 1-3 and felt like writing an essay for school, so Bioware's fabled "True Star Wars experience" is non-existent. Virtually everything they talked about in early development has been abandoned, and aside from the dialogue wheel(That comes withIn a nutshell, this is WoW with lightsabers and a dialogue wheel. The writing seems like something you would expect from a 10 year old who saw episode 1-3 and felt like writing an essay for school, so Bioware's fabled "True Star Wars experience" is non-existent. Virtually everything they talked about in early development has been abandoned, and aside from the dialogue wheel(That comes with terrible "options") there is nothing that sets this MMO apart from the thousands of other MMOs.… Expand
  57. penface
    Dec 22, 2011
    3
    I understand that perhaps not all of the quests are fetch quests, but due to the very nature of MMOs, it seems to be the case for the most part. And while Mass Effect introduced the dialog wheel, Dragon Age 2 soured my opinion of it permanently, as it seemed to angle you into inevitable conflicts instead of allowing you to craft your way through them with at least some illusion of choice.I understand that perhaps not all of the quests are fetch quests, but due to the very nature of MMOs, it seems to be the case for the most part. And while Mass Effect introduced the dialog wheel, Dragon Age 2 soured my opinion of it permanently, as it seemed to angle you into inevitable conflicts instead of allowing you to craft your way through them with at least some illusion of choice. You know, like an RPG. And perhaps saying that Revan was "retconned" was over stepping my boundaries a bit. Perhaps I should say that their handling of his character, arguably the most important in their series, is very poor. I mean, they're only writing the book so they can force Revan in to this game. The fact that he was suddenly "being controlled by a Sith lord the whole time" is a bit weak and destroyed all hope of getting any deeper plot threads than "You are Sith or Jedi, there is no in-between." So, Revan was being controlled all along? No more trying to strengthen the Republic through war so it would know how to handle future conflicts, walking the line between Jedi and Sith and defying all masters before ultimately going off to fight the true Sith that may soon plague all the galaxy--not because he is a Jedi or Sith, but because it is the correct thing to do for the salvation of all species? Nope, he was being indoctrinated the whole time by Sith and just mindlessly fought the Republic and just happened to lose, all in the name of some other Sith Lord.

    While we're on the topic of Revan, it really steams me that he's even in the game. This is not to provoke anger, I'm asking honestly because I would like to know: Is there any reason given by the book that he's still alive centuries after his time? The fact that you have the option to kill him at as a MID-RANGE level is mind boggling. Showing his face and giving him a voice and otherwise peeling away all sense of mystery around Revan just feels like such a bummer to me.

    And maybe species all looking the same is nitpicking, but I still feel like Bioware is just being lazy when it comes to this. After setting the bar high game after game, they just decide to recolor humans, throw some spikes or headtails on and call it a different species? I mean, look at this. If their heads were blocked out, it would be impossible to even tell these races apart.
    http://www.wikiswtor...layable_species In short: This is a shoddy attempt to steal WoW's audience and it's so called "Voice acting", it's golden ticket to being more than the average MMO, is poorly written and even more poorly acted.    … Expand
  58. jrs1977
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    It is laughable to see some of the scores of 2 or 0 for this game. This would indicate that you believe this game is among the worst games available and that is absurd. This is a solid and fun MMO that repeats something that were done before in other MMOs like WOW (quest structure and to some level combat) but provides a different game as well through other elements (Storylines, voiceIt is laughable to see some of the scores of 2 or 0 for this game. This would indicate that you believe this game is among the worst games available and that is absurd. This is a solid and fun MMO that repeats something that were done before in other MMOs like WOW (quest structure and to some level combat) but provides a different game as well through other elements (Storylines, voice acting, and to some degree combat). If something is done well why not take elements of that and reapply them? People's expectations are so ridiculously high if you believe this is a disaster of a game. Did you expect to log in and get to play 20 different races, 30 different classes, and have graphics that resembled a Lucas Arts film? Did you ever think that perhaps the best method, and the one every MMO game uses is to start off small and work up to things like additional races and dungeons. Also note to people, WOW did not create the click a button on your UI back and forth combat structure nor did it create the quest structure of kill this or go fetch that. Games like Everquest and Ultima did this long before. If you take the game for what it is, it is highly enjoyable. Right now the game is more about the journey with storylines and morality points than power leveling to end game content which is all WOW is. You cannot put the cart before the horse. Did you want Bioware to come out with 15 different end game raids right away when most people won't even get to 50 for awhile? No MMO has ever done that and it makes no sense. There will be updates with new end game content as time progresses and more and more people get there. Combat to me is fun and fast paced. Is it ground breaking? No, but that doesn't mean it is not fun. If this game remains the same in a year than people have room to complain but for now you can't get mad because it doesn't have all the refined elements that a 6 year old game like WOW now has (does anyone remember vanilla WOW? It was a lot of fun but not exactly earth shattering either). Also everyone assumes that this game has set out to destroy WOW by being so much better that it robs WOW of its fan base. Maybe the game wants to offer something that appeals to casual WOW players and a new fan base of people who are tired of playing a WOW game whose sole purpose is to get to end game content so you can raid for 6 hours with arrogant, rude, asses, who act like the rulers of their little fiefdoms because their dps meter is higher than yours. It is a just a game people and if you relax and enjoy it, a very fun one. Stop expecting it to be a world shattering work of art that changes the cultural landscape. If you are a fan of Star Wars and MMOs this is a very fun game you should definitely try it. If you are a 3 time a week raid leader on WOW or someone who believes video games should be on the same artistic level as a Thomas Pynchon novel then save your money.… Expand
  59. calranthe
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    I have been playing mmo's since they began Meridian 59 and before that muds, this game is not a sandbox, not a wow clone, it is a pretty decent mmo with some amazing storylines and biowares moral and ethical choices that really make this game, play this game for the storylines, for the exploration and choices. An excellent fun game if you are interested in the RPG of mmorpg and the journeyI have been playing mmo's since they began Meridian 59 and before that muds, this game is not a sandbox, not a wow clone, it is a pretty decent mmo with some amazing storylines and biowares moral and ethical choices that really make this game, play this game for the storylines, for the exploration and choices. An excellent fun game if you are interested in the RPG of mmorpg and the journey as much as the end game.… Expand
  60. Simzyy
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Amazing game with fantastic voice work, story and multi player content, so far 60ish hours in and its a worth successor to the KOTOR series. The flashpoints are epic, the sound fantastic and it really feels like star wars. The only downside is that with so many side quests it can dilute the class story a bit.
  61. ktannen
    Dec 22, 2011
    0
    Been playing for about 15 hours, and so far I've found nothing in this game to really be compelling enough for me to continue to pay for it. I really wanted to give it a chance as I happen to have loved star wars since I was a kid during the 90s. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but I've put in about 200 days of game time into WoW since 2004 and my interest has been held. Generally, IBeen playing for about 15 hours, and so far I've found nothing in this game to really be compelling enough for me to continue to pay for it. I really wanted to give it a chance as I happen to have loved star wars since I was a kid during the 90s. I'm not entirely sure what it is, but I've put in about 200 days of game time into WoW since 2004 and my interest has been held. Generally, I find more life in the game through humor, story and art design. And I know that this is no fault of the game itself, but I would like to note that my experience so far with the game's early community has been atrocious, though I am hopeful this will improve. Overall, I am very disappointed. My high hopes were diminished, but the 15 hours I have spent in game is still a relatively small amount of time and I will not give up on it yet. Please, despite my bad review, it would be nice if some decent, intelligent people would strengthen the community to give this game a fighting chance.
    -An MMO enthusiast    … Expand
  62. x_ares_x
    Dec 22, 2011
    4
    First off, BioWare doesn't only verify a credit card like most sensible companies, they deny it if you don't have at least $14.95 plus tax on it. They hold the 30 days of "free" time along with any forums access hostage if you don't have a payment ready. Now, onto the game itsself. - No macro system. You just cannot make any macros at all, no way, no how. No mouse-over heals, nothing.
    - No    First off, BioWare doesn't only verify a credit card like most sensible companies, they deny it if you don't have at least $14.95 plus tax on it. They hold the 30 days of "free" time along with any forums access hostage if you don't have a payment ready. Now, onto the game itsself. - No macro system. You just cannot make any macros at all, no way, no how. No mouse-over heals, nothing.
    - No addon system (not that I'm an addon fan, I hate them actually). This method of game playing is not implimented and honestly, I doubt it ever will be.
    What the lack of these two things mean is - there will probably be far too few healers in the future, especially in raids. There are a LOT of people who cannot function adequately without at least mouseover healing. -Uninspired combat. Sure, there is no auto-attack which is a plus, but there's also zero innovation outside of this, if you can call this innovation at all. It's mostly like every other MMORPG fight mechanic which has existed for the past 10 years or more. This isn't 1997.
    -No user interface customization. You can't move the chat box or anything else, which means you either keep it too small to read well, or you have to deal with it encroaching on your left Quickbar.
    -No autogrouping to run instances. Expect to see a LOT of "LFG for !".
    -Lethargic character creation. Do you enjoy looking like everyone else (including NPCs)? No? Too bad.
    Rift, Champions Online, and a massive number of other companies have very in-depth character creators and have come out long before this game. This is 2011, not 2000. There simply is no longer any excuse for slacking here.
    -Very small race selection. This is a game based in a universe where there are supposedly thousands of aliens. Even the movies had more than nine. If you count Human, Cyborg, Miraluka and Rattataki as looking so similar that they're all Human dirvatives, the choice is even smaller. -The entire game is one huge instance. What this means is that say you're on Ord Mantell. There will be three or four copies of this same exact world on the server. Most of the time you can see people chatting, but do not expect to see those same people in the game, necessarily. While there will be a given number of people in a given instance, the game world still feels dead and somewhat empty. You often do see others running about, but it just feels too sparse. If someone needs help and you group with them, it's up to you or them to figure out which instance the other is on.
    -Overall-
    The game is expansive, it has more than one well-known name behind it. However, it also feels rushed and half-assed in some parts. The subscription model seems backwards and bent on driving customers away, not welcoming them in. I think BioWare really screwed the pooch on this game and released it far too early. Why they would do that is beyond anyone's guess. This is not a new company who just popped up last year and decided to create a new Star Wars IP. These people should know better. Because they do no know better obviously, the game is feeling more and more like a World of Warcraft clone only there to make a cash grab.    … Expand
  63. Valorian
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    For everybody who loves Star Wars and wants to be a part of it, this game offers a wonderful opportunity do to just that. The world is beautiful and created with much love for the detail, the Gameplay is easy to learn and there a lot of possibilities to specialise your character if you want to. Furthermore the people who are playing TOR are all very very nice, which may not be entirelyFor everybody who loves Star Wars and wants to be a part of it, this game offers a wonderful opportunity do to just that. The world is beautiful and created with much love for the detail, the Gameplay is easy to learn and there a lot of possibilities to specialise your character if you want to. Furthermore the people who are playing TOR are all very very nice, which may not be entirely attributed to Biowars policies, but nonetheless is important for a game to be really funny and enjoyable.
    Finally the best part: The Story! I love Games with a good Stories and TOR has loads of it. So lean back, play and may the Force be with you!    … Expand
  64. thewwwyzzerdd
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    I love literally everything about this game. Combat and story are engaging, the crafting system is brilliant, the art direction is top notch. This game does not reinvent the wheel, but it makes some damn solid improvements on the formula.
  65. MrGrimord
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    This game deserve a solid 9/10 despite all haters. If you enjoy WoW and Mass Effect, this is the perfect game for you. Of course this isn't a revolution in the gender, but this is the best improvement for the mmo market since WoW. A never ending KotoR game = win.
  66. FrancoElTanque
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    A good game to hold my attention for a while. Not perfect by any means and that should be the only reason a game gets a 10. People throw those around too easily (Not to mention the 0 or 1 ratings if they don't like it). If you can't think of a single thing wrong with the game, you're kidding yourself.
  67. HHughes
    Dec 22, 2011
    2
    After years of development, you'd think Star Wars: The Old Republic would have the potential to revolutionize the MMO genere, especially considering that Bioware was once regarded as a quality, RPG developer. Unfortunately, this is not the case. One of the major features that was hyped since day one was SWTOR's fully voiced cast. Although the voice acting sounds like a nice addition (andAfter years of development, you'd think Star Wars: The Old Republic would have the potential to revolutionize the MMO genere, especially considering that Bioware was once regarded as a quality, RPG developer. Unfortunately, this is not the case. One of the major features that was hyped since day one was SWTOR's fully voiced cast. Although the voice acting sounds like a nice addition (and it is), that's about the only plus. Character creation sounds like it would be a pulling point of a game based off the Star Wars franchise, yet Bioware has managed to make it the opposite. Star Wars has dozens of unique races, and Bioware has managed to incorporate none. Want to play a Wookie? Too bad. An Ithorian smuggler? Not a chance. A Rodian bounty hunter? Try again. But, have faith, Bioware has still included some other races: a blue human, a green human, a human with head tails, and, finally, a blind human. Oh, the variety. The actual gameplay is worse. Bioware doesn't even try to hide the WOWesque combat; it even mimics the old hotbars and menus. Combat is essentially press A to win, or, because Bioware likes variety, press A then B two times to win. Player vs. Player combat is the same formula. Like others have said, SWTOR doesn't differ from the standard MMO combat roles. You have tanks, healers and even damage-dealing roles. For some that might not be particularly disappointing, but I came into SWTOR looking for a revision of the tired system. I mean, it's a tad ridiculous when the Sith have their own DARK heal. I thought the Sith were supposed to be ruthless killing machines, not tempered healers. Anyways, quests are alternatively a burden. In a Bioware game, one expects story and characters to be a saving grace, but SWTOR somehow manages to abuse the same kill-ten-boars tradition. It's a pity considering Bioware has managed to lure in several big names in voice acting, and their talents are wasted in boring, terribly written dialog. There are some nice moments during questing though, where quests take a more dynamic approach, but these moments are too far and in between that they hold no real value. All in all, SWTOR had so much potential that could have been easily capitalized, but Bioware was so eager to cash in on the Star Wars franchise that any potential greatness was lost. Instead of the Star Wars epic that was presented to us prior to release, we have a run of the mill MMORPG smothered in decent voice acting.… Expand
  68. Raggedvise
    Dec 22, 2011
    0
    One of the worst MMO's i have ever had the displeasure of playing.

    - Every single mechanic is a direct copy from world of warcraft, which was a copy from EQII, you'd think, god forbid, after 6+ years of the same old thing they'd make something new. - Even though they copied Warcrafts mechanics they left out some of the better things it implemented such as dual spec, i hope you dont enjoy    One of the worst MMO's i have ever had the displeasure of playing.

    - Every single mechanic is a direct copy from world of warcraft, which was a copy from EQII, you'd think, god forbid, after 6+ years of the same old thing they'd make something new.
    - Even though they copied Warcrafts mechanics they left out some of the better things it implemented such as dual spec, i hope you dont enjoy playing both pve and pvp with the same character.
    - Because of a certain exploit that made it through beta (pvp exp exploit) people reached max level 2 days into playing the game (and about 5 days before the 'official' release''
    - PvP is a buggy mess, with insane amounts of lag if more than 25 players are on your screen, with very little tactical play other than spam all your buttons while they hit all their buttons.
    - It currently has ONE raid, that is its endgame, which isnt really spectacular seeing as people have reached max level 2 days in, nowhere near enough content. This raid was completed 3 days in, with half its 'hard mode' bosses downed allready too.
    - Completely destroys the lore from the KoToR game series

    this isnt even mentioning the lack of race choice (all are reskinned humans), if you want to play a warcraft clone you might aswell just go play warcraft or Rift, because this game is a huge waste of money.    … Expand
  69. madley
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    The game shares similar features with other games but has a fresh feel to it. The sound is great the graphics are good and the gameplay is fun. If you like themed MMOs, Star Wars, or Mass Effect, you will likely enjoy this game. Personally this game is a 8/10 but it gets a 10 from me to offset the fools who give it a 0.
  70. RexxRacerX
    Dec 22, 2011
    2
    For anyone interested in an honest opinion and some analysis on the game Star Wars the Old Republic. There are good and not so good elements to SWTOR at launch, and I'll try to list out the pros and cons below this general statement. Overall, SWTOR is a fun experience to start, and is familiar to anyone playing the run of the mill MMO these days in the interface. Some (OK, honestly MOST)For anyone interested in an honest opinion and some analysis on the game Star Wars the Old Republic. There are good and not so good elements to SWTOR at launch, and I'll try to list out the pros and cons below this general statement. Overall, SWTOR is a fun experience to start, and is familiar to anyone playing the run of the mill MMO these days in the interface. Some (OK, honestly MOST) design choices are extremely clunky and poorly implemented, however offer a glimmer of hope in the spirit of what they were trying to achieve. Other things, like the layout of quest objectives, planet design, and items that I consider to be pure time sinks are not well received by me, and ultimately will turn me off from this game in short time. The voice over gimmick gets tired after about level 20-25, and while it was a great idea, again it was not pulled off in execution in my opinion because it becomes a tedious chore for all but the main story quests after some time into the game. Also, it feels like the voice over addition severely gimped the development of the actual gameplay itself, and SWTOR does not feel like a complete game, let alone polished and ready for release by any stretch. In my opinion, the last 5 years have seen many MMO's come and go, and the bar has been set higher than was achieved here, and I agree that it feels like a regression in a certain respect from other offerings in the genres.

    Here are some things that I really like about the game:
    The companion idea - Having a useful companion like a pet from other MMO's for each class is a great idea, and overall is implemented well.
    Companion questing/skills - Again, great idea and overall implemented well.
    Companion able to be sent on errands to sell your junk, again great idea, but not novel considering there are at least 2 other active MMO's that have this functionality.
    Having a ship that has customization options - great implementation and necessary to build upon KOTOR legacy.

    Things that ultimately will push me away if not addressed and fixed:
    -Design of the instances make it feel like you are isolated and either alone, or with very few people. This is not worthy of a subscription in it's current state with the limited social interaction and sharded state of the servers. Oddly enough, even though the game is sharded and feels empty often times you will get to a quest node, or assassination target and have to wait for a respawn or reset.
    -Conversely, there are queues on many servers at launch, and it is very disappointing to wait in an extended queue to get into what feels like an empty game.
    -Poor UI Design. No options to move, customize, or resize. Pop up windows are exclusive in some cases and feels very clunky as a interface. Positioning of some windows is just utterly silly.
    -No options for macros or addons.
    -Poor design of the game in general. I'm talking about the quests and nature of running back and forth 800 gazillion times for rewards, which I thought the industry standard was set better years ago.Also, stairs leading to nowhere, completely empty buildings, and a almost useless navigation system with the current map and location finders.
    -Lack of quest options and dynamics. All quests are basically go kill x of these, loot x of those, or click x of these. Where are the usable objects like turrets? Dynamic environment changes? Mount quests? Again, the bar is set higher then this game has achieved.
    -Loading screens for new zones is another thing that is odd to see in this day and age.
    -Getting stuck. If your game has a need for a /stuck command that I've personally had to use a dozen times in a week after 5 years of development, something is clearly wrong.
    -Lack of Avatar customization options. Character creation is very disappointing, and again I thought the bar was set higher.
    -Poor PVP options.
    -More time sink items than a bantha has fleas. No sprint until lvl 10, no mount until lvl 25, again I thought we were past this type behavior.
    -No voice over IP options. Again, it feels like a regression.
    -Questing on a rail, lack of replayability. Each class has a separate story line, but eventually that's used up, and the side quests are very tedious and not unique.

    I'm sure I could nitpick and find more, but these are the glaring items that will ultimately cause me to quit playing this game. For now, I'm engrossed by each character class story and I sincerely hope that many of these items get addressed and fixed or redesigned.

    I score the release of the game a 2 because I feel like the companions are done so well that it warrants a couple points on it's own, all other aspects need some serious rework for this game to not end up in the F2P trash heap.    … Expand
  71. TheOtherDude
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Great game. The "WoW clone" criticism makes no sense to me, since I never enjoyed WoW much at all, and I'm addicted to this game. Beyond the overemphasized "story" element, it has several features beyond what WoW offers - companions and crew skills, fully moddable items, even just the quick travel system is improved over WoW's. Plus, while the combat system is basically the same asGreat game. The "WoW clone" criticism makes no sense to me, since I never enjoyed WoW much at all, and I'm addicted to this game. Beyond the overemphasized "story" element, it has several features beyond what WoW offers - companions and crew skills, fully moddable items, even just the quick travel system is improved over WoW's. Plus, while the combat system is basically the same as WoW's, you use many more abilities in TOR, which gives it greater depth.… Expand
  72. Melschat
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    I have really enjoyed playing this game. It embraces qualities that so many like in other games to make this beautifully well done. There are a few areas that could use improvement, but with a few patches, this game will be even more awesome.
  73. LX_Theo
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    If you read a really low review here, they are a WoW fanboy trying to discourage people from picking up the game. The ones I've seen are complaining about extremely trivial things because they obviously feel threatened. The fact of the matter is tat this game is a very fun game, and you should try it yourself before listening to the "brilliant" people trying to attack the game.
  74. unbound
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    Well, this game seems to have drawn some polarity. Let me add some reality to the mix here.

    First, anyone that has rated this game in the red zone is being highly unrealistic. They may not like the game for this reason or that reason, but it is certainly not a sub-5 game by any stretch of the imagination. There are plenty of MMOs out there that are far worse. Second, comparing this    Well, this game seems to have drawn some polarity. Let me add some reality to the mix here.

    First, anyone that has rated this game in the red zone is being highly unrealistic. They may not like the game for this reason or that reason, but it is certainly not a sub-5 game by any stretch of the imagination. There are plenty of MMOs out there that are far worse. Second, comparing this game to WoW is like comparing Battlefield 3 to Doom...other than the familiar mechanics and game play at the most superficial levels, they don't play or feel the same at all.

    On to the game itself. I've played in a few rounds of beta and have been playing in the early entry. My past history includes 6+ months (typically much more) of WoW, LoTRO, Rift, CoH / CoV, and Aion with some playing of Guild Wars, Warhammer, Age of Conan and Champions Online.

    The opening cutscene is very well done and does set the mood for the game very well. The character creation is fairly minimal with some races only being available based on class and/or faction selection. Customization is limited to a handful or two of pre-set conditions around hair style, facial expression, scars / tattoos, and general character size. This is pretty standard for any MMO that uses the armor / clothing pieces as the primary character appearance.

    Starting with you new character introduces the next major cutscene which is also well done and sets the stage for your character's storyline. Each faction / class combination truly feels unique with their storylines even though the starting areas (levels 1 thru 10) are shared (e.g. both jedi types - knight and consular - have the same starting area). The story is the primary separation between SWTOR and other MMOs at this stage. The stories are well done with voice acting all along the way. If you are not particularly interested in following the story, then you may want to pass on the game since you are missing out on 1/2 the experience.

    Interaction with NPCs take 2 flavors: Quest interactions which are all story based and voice acted (some are just for your class, others are for anyone in the zone) or trainers / vendors.

    Combat follows standard MMO conventions with various cc, damage, heal, and anti-cc abilities. Cooldowns are put appropriately on abilities that have higher damage, heal or cc effects. Several abilities are conditional on the status of the target (e.g. stunned). You will find rotations that are far more effective than others, and as you get up in levels, you will find that you can't rely on a single spam ability that will get you thru...and optimizing your rotation allows you to keep progressing with minimal breaks.

    Specialization gives you access to two different set of trees based on your class. The trees support tank, dps, or heals. Notably, the trees that support tank give access to good damage as do the trees that supporting healing. Trees that are heavy dps tend to give access to better cc.

    PvP is decently supported and reasonably well balanced. Queues tend to pop quickly since all levels play together (levels 10 thru 50) with players below level 50 powered up to do competitive damage. Since lower level players lack many abilities, there are more struggles, but I've been able to take out higher level opponents on my lower level toons, so my impression of PvP is that balance is better than most other MMOs I've played. The maps are rather interesting changes to the standard capture the flag approach with a game of Huttball with allowable passing to other players on your side being the most popular.

    Crafting is pretty unique in this MMO. Rather than gathering yourself, your crew does the work for you. You send the crew out to gather or craft and they will be unavailable until their mission / crafting is complete. You are able to send them out while working in a group on an instance as well. There is a good selection of crafting / gathering skills to select from, so it makes for some interesting choices. You are limited to 3 selections per character.

    Most of the game world is shared. Instancing is restricted to your class story line quests or group instancing (I know some of the reviews make it sound like the game world is as heavily instanced as Guild Wars, but that is definitely incorrect). There are some group "required" areas / instancing even in the starter areas, so you do get introduced to grouping early on. Even servers labeled as "Light" are full of activity as a result.

    Overall, the game is lively and fun. The classes are interesting approaches to a sci-fi MMORPG that makes for a very capable MMO. If you don't enjoy the RPG aspect, you probably won't find anything more compelling than other MMO games, but it is still a first rate game worth a try.    … Expand
  75. Eceliion
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Great game. It's fun - not to mention so refreshing than dealing with swords, shields, and QQing Deathknights 10/44 year olds. I love all the WoW players who are hating on this game because half their friends left for it. Time to grow up, folks!
  76. NovaSix
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    Best themepark MMO ever. If that's not that your thing, don't buy the game. Bioware does an excellent job incorporating tried and true themepark elements, great VO, beautiful graphics and engaging story. On top of that, they have had the best launch in MMO history - way more polished than WoW, EQ2, Lotro, or Rift. If you liked those games, or you like Bioware games in general, then youBest themepark MMO ever. If that's not that your thing, don't buy the game. Bioware does an excellent job incorporating tried and true themepark elements, great VO, beautiful graphics and engaging story. On top of that, they have had the best launch in MMO history - way more polished than WoW, EQ2, Lotro, or Rift. If you liked those games, or you like Bioware games in general, then you have nothing to lose in checking this game out. If, on the other hand, you like sandboxes like Eve Online or SWG then this isn't your cup of tea. Nothing wrong with that.

    Just please stop trying to judge a themepark as a sandbox. That's like complaining "Shawn of the Dead" wasn't scary enough. -1 point for missing guild features and UI, LFG tools, and an auction house that all need work. I expect all those issues to be ironed out within the next few months.    … Expand
  77. SpartanBlackman
    Dec 22, 2011
    1
    This game tries so hard, but falls short in every area.
    The game is instanced, the servers are horrible and here to stay. The game is empty due to instancing.
    There is no endgame content. The Companions are terrible and are lifeless. PvP is terrible, you just mash all of the buttons and win. The abilities are bland and it looks like something from 2003. Warcraft 3 looks better than this    This game tries so hard, but falls short in every area.
    The game is instanced, the servers are horrible and here to stay. The game is empty due to instancing.
    There is no endgame content. The Companions are terrible and are lifeless. PvP is terrible, you just mash all of the buttons and win.
    The abilities are bland and it looks like something from 2003. Warcraft 3 looks better than this abomination.
    The lore is terrible. The lore from KotOR 2 was butchered and this has an abomination of a plot that would make any true KotOR fan cringe. It honestly sounds like poorly written fanfiction done by a lonely anime fangirl
    The game is the worst MMO I have ever played, and the worst RPG too. Bioware needs to step up their game. After Dragon age 2 and SWTOR, and with Mass Effect 3 looking more like Gears of War every time we see it, it looks like Bioware have lost their touch, something that is painfully obvious every second of gameplay.
    A 1/10 is generous.
    If you want to play an MMO or a RPG, pick something else, because this game will not be for you.    … Expand
  78. freejhk
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Is it mostly WoW in a Star Wars skin. Yes. But is uber-polished and the story lines are great. I leveled 4 different classes in WoW, and for the life of me can't remember a cohesive story line. Now I take the heads off of people who reveal plot lines! I'm hooked!
  79. prof
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    I haven't played that much since the early access, I got a level 15 character now and I must say unlike most other blockbuster releases over the last couple of months this game really got me into it - and i don't have any strong feelings towards star wars or any science-fiction universe.
    of course its core is nothing new, but the all the people playing are really trying to get a nice    I haven't played that much since the early access, I got a level 15 character now and I must say unlike most other blockbuster releases over the last couple of months this game really got me into it - and i don't have any strong feelings towards star wars or any science-fiction universe.
    of course its core is nothing new, but the all the people playing are really trying to get a nice experience out of it.
    the graphic's are likeable, though the engine isn't always as smooth as it could be. i guess i'm gonna spend a lot more hours on the several planets and the space between...    … Expand
  80. theJexster
    Dec 22, 2011
    3
    After anticipating for 3 plus years this game was a complete disappointment. In beta, and on into launch this game has continued to underperform. Shallow unimmersive, limited, under underwhelming. I love Star Wars, and I love MMORPGs, and I wanted to love this, but the second I saw the pathetic attempt at character creation I knew this game was a shell of what it should be. From then onAfter anticipating for 3 plus years this game was a complete disappointment. In beta, and on into launch this game has continued to underperform. Shallow unimmersive, limited, under underwhelming. I love Star Wars, and I love MMORPGs, and I wanted to love this, but the second I saw the pathetic attempt at character creation I knew this game was a shell of what it should be. From then on it was one let down after another as the game began to unveil itself. Planets felt dead, small, and tiny. Ships were big, but lifeless and completely stagnant. The classes had all been done better somewhere else (either in other real MMOs or in the Star Wars single player games). The story (which was said to be the most developed feature) was not the 8 unique experiences we were expecting. It is 8 starting stories that merge into the same overall story once you begin to level past 15. The PVP feels like any Xbox FPS, not a massive War. The animations were underwhelming. The space hubs make the planets pointless. It feels more like a game where you log in, pick your instance, load it, clear it and re-peat. It does not feel like a MMORPG.… Expand
  81. Cixi
    Dec 22, 2011
    5
    This is an overrated game imo. The world ain't really "open", it's just a bunch of planets with linear quests that's placed so u can do them in a linear sequence. There is never really any soul to the maps either, I seriously can't see me going back to an earlier explored place when I been there once. And as people keep on saying, the combat mechanics is just exactly what u expected if uThis is an overrated game imo. The world ain't really "open", it's just a bunch of planets with linear quests that's placed so u can do them in a linear sequence. There is never really any soul to the maps either, I seriously can't see me going back to an earlier explored place when I been there once. And as people keep on saying, the combat mechanics is just exactly what u expected if u played any other mainstream mmo. The character creation doesn't leave any chance for chars that actually differ from another char, except in body size. Like who wouldn't like to have at least have an small alien option and a big alien option, its the Star wars universe ffs, the possibilities was limitless but still BW/EA chose options that all are human-like in every single way.

    But with this said, I like to say that I understand why some people like it, but I also understand why people don't like it. And if the game is given some time, BW might actually fix a lot of downsides with very interesting endgame content.    … Expand
  82. bigsmiff
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    I am currently addicted to this game. I haven't looked forward to logging into an MMO for many years and SWTOR is rekindling the MMO fire in me again. There are some aspects of the game that I am kind of meh about, but I have the utmost confidence in Bioware.
  83. Leros
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Best themepark mmorpg ever released. If you don't like the genre do no buy it, it's really that simple.

    It's like complaining that fps is about shooting things.

    It makes you look like a retard.
  84. Basic
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    This is a great game. I'm not up rating it to counterbalance the propaganda machine, it really is worth 10/10 to me. Definitely shows that they spent the 150+ million in making this game. That said, its a very long game and you should tread cautiously when deciding if you want to play this game. If you want to be the best in this game your going to have to put in a lot of hours before youThis is a great game. I'm not up rating it to counterbalance the propaganda machine, it really is worth 10/10 to me. Definitely shows that they spent the 150+ million in making this game. That said, its a very long game and you should tread cautiously when deciding if you want to play this game. If you want to be the best in this game your going to have to put in a lot of hours before you can even think about competing with the lifers. They will literally stop at nothing to beat you, including dropping out of school and playing 18 hours a day. Thankfully the game doesn't feel like a grind and you can enjoy the "trip" to max level as much as if you were playing DA:O or ME.… Expand
  85. mmart
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Best Mmo I have ever played, great ! Cool graphics, interesting features like your own companion and star ship, this is surely not only a wow clone, it has enough new features, the story and cutscenes are superb. Everoney who gave this game 0-2 points, should never write a review again, no game deserves 0 points. Enjoy it !
  86. Jimbob2k666
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    I was a stalwart fan of SW: Galaxies before it's "redesign" half way through it's existence. I was an out and out crafter for a couple of years, and I've been searching for a similar crafting system ever since. Yet no MMO since has used the dynamic resource system that made SW:G so unique. Howevver, being a big fan of the SW franchise since I went to see the original film when I wasI was a stalwart fan of SW: Galaxies before it's "redesign" half way through it's existence. I was an out and out crafter for a couple of years, and I've been searching for a similar crafting system ever since. Yet no MMO since has used the dynamic resource system that made SW:G so unique. Howevver, being a big fan of the SW franchise since I went to see the original film when I was just 10 years old, I had followed SWTOR since it's announcement, but purposely didn't apply for beta, knowing that since SW:G, I have participated in almost a dozen MMO betas which then end up disappointing me at release...............Damn Metacritic for not allowing paragraphs............................Anyway, onto the new game. So far I have tinkered around with Bounty Hunter (Merc) and Sith Warrior (Marauder). Both of the opening planets and areas for the classes are well fleshed out and keep your interest. I can see how some fans of traditional MMO gamers will get frustrated with the fact that Bioware have taken the time to have full cut scenes with literally every mission giving NPC, and I can envisage hundreds of people constantly clicking there space bars to progress the conversation just to get to the end. For me, I'm in between. I like the cut scenes, but they can become overbearing at times, especially if you get to a new NPC zone and speak to two or three NPC's in a row just to find that it's taken nearly 15 minutes jus to get the missions in your journal......................... The missions themselves are pretty generic fodder, with the sporadic inclusion of class missions that at least provide you with your own instance to work through............... The flashpoints (group instances) so far are well done, and the dialogues with NPCs include a new mechanism for MMO's with each member picking their own responses, and "rolling" to use it in the story, resulting in bonus social points (another new mechanism) if you win the roll. These social points can then be used to buy things at various vendors....................................... Onto crafting. I can see how some players might find the crafting system a little daunting at first, but it becomes simple as you get throught it, if somewhat expensive to progress if you try to do it in the starter zones where not many resource spots exist resulting in you sending off your NPC companion to take part in virtual missions that result in them gathering resources for you. Reverse engineering various crafted, looted and purchased items will provide you with some return on the cost of doing so, and also will provide you with random schematics to boot........................................There is a lot more I could go into, but it would take too long. Overall I am rating the game at 8/10. I was hoping for a bit more, but the game has only just been released so that score could well go up (or down) with Bioware's support. I am still fearful of how the game will progress but that is due to the EA branding, which I don't have a lot of faith in as they have a history of grabbing money now and not giving a s**t later (allegedly). Time will tell, and for now, I'll give them that time.… Expand
  87. Jirekianu
    Dec 22, 2011
    7
    This game over all has the makings of a good game. It's got some innovation but at the same time mechanics that are familiar enough to not be put off by something completely new or untested. Now that's not to say what's the same is always better. But sometimes games will trade being unique for what works. In this instance bioware has raised the bar in regards to missions/quests and theThis game over all has the makings of a good game. It's got some innovation but at the same time mechanics that are familiar enough to not be put off by something completely new or untested. Now that's not to say what's the same is always better. But sometimes games will trade being unique for what works. In this instance bioware has raised the bar in regards to missions/quests and the investment you have in the characters. The voice acting has quality, and the dialogue is reasonably well written. My only complaints are the lack of polish with things that shouldn't need polishing. No anti-aliasing for graphics. You can't friend someone unless they're online. And even on lower settings a mid-range pc has trouble running the game smoothly. (this wouldn't be a problem if the lower settings were giving you the bang for your figurative buck.)… Expand
  88. Wylie
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    I'm not sure why's ther is so many bad reviews from users. This game is sick, totally bad ass. And i think it lives up to the hype. I read some people's reviews and they were **** about it feeling like wow and yes it does but what is wrong with feeling like the most popular game on the planet i think it was a very smart move for bioware. this game is simply awsome !
  89. Mackeh
    Dec 22, 2011
    3
    I have been playing MMO's for 9 years and love world PvP, Exploration and immersion, so if you are interested in these aspects of SWTOR then read on.

    Firstly I am a huge SW fan and so TOR was something I have been looking forward to playing for a long time indeed. I have played it to level 26 and the first two days were amazing, I was loving the combat and the space ships and space    I have been playing MMO's for 9 years and love world PvP, Exploration and immersion, so if you are interested in these aspects of SWTOR then read on.

    Firstly I am a huge SW fan and so TOR was something I have been looking forward to playing for a long time indeed. I have played it to level 26 and the first two days were amazing, I was loving the combat and the space ships and space station. The controls are a little clunky but those things can be ironed out so no problem.

    The zones in SWTOR are actually planets, you have to fly your own ship to the planets when you move from zone to zone and I personally love this immersion. The problems start when you get out your spaceship and realise that each planet is a series of instanced boxes, you literally can not jump on your speeder and ride around the entire zone, it's dreadful. I was on tatooine and pointed my speeder south and tried to explore, I hit an invisible barrier after 500 yds WTF???

    So with the shocking zones comes the shocking world PvP, there is none basically, I have not seen a single Empire player on any of the three contested planets I have been questing. And on that bombshell I will end this review, there is no point discussing the other aspects of the game because without huge populated worlds to explore and world PvP this game imo does not qualify to be called an MMO. It's certainly not massive that's for sure.    … Expand
  90. elgringo
    Dec 22, 2011
    0
    Another half-done game release this year. Controls are unresponsive and the overall experience is pretty generic. I've expected more from this company, at least for this price here they charge from us. Priceperformance-ratio is pretty horrible. Never again, you failed me too much.
  91. Stormie
    Dec 22, 2011
    5
    Competently executed, but completely lacking in innovation, this is really a 2005 MMORPG launched six years too late. Mechanics are largely copied from WoW, which is not uncommon, but really doesn't work to well in a sci-fi/space opera style of game. The unique selling point is the voice-acted storyline, but I didn't find the story to be significantly above other MMOs in quality, and feltCompetently executed, but completely lacking in innovation, this is really a 2005 MMORPG launched six years too late. Mechanics are largely copied from WoW, which is not uncommon, but really doesn't work to well in a sci-fi/space opera style of game. The unique selling point is the voice-acted storyline, but I didn't find the story to be significantly above other MMOs in quality, and felt that the voice acting was rather poor - half of the voice work was stilted and wooden, the other half was "zany" and over the top. And none of the conversations felt anything like conversations, they just felt like two voice actors reading from a script. Hugely disappointing, especially when the game really has nothing else going for it that isn't already provided by WoW, LOTRO, EQ2, Rift, and other such games of this style.… Expand
  92. randulf
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Bioware has set a new standart.
    In my humble opinion BioWare managed as the first company to create a real mmoRPG.
    The story telling elements inside are so huge and well done, that you realy feel like being in the world of StarWars in the age of Kotor. You don't feel like being dragged and led through quest hubs to level, you don't feel the "burdon" of leveling itself, it just flows    Bioware has set a new standart.
    In my humble opinion BioWare managed as the first company to create a real mmoRPG.
    The story telling elements inside are so huge and well done, that you realy feel like being in the world of StarWars in the age of Kotor. You don't feel like being dragged and led through quest hubs to level, you don't feel the "burdon" of leveling itself, it just flows through naturaly due to the great storyline, individualy designed by your choices (light side/dark side, class, good/bad decisions). This system leads to an interesting character development besides getting new skills and skillpoints to better your skills.

    Furthermore BioWare managed with their last Beta-Weekend and the long headstart to create the smoothest MMO-Start ever seen. You have some queues, but thats better than having empty servers and being forced to merge pretty soon - besides that the game runs pretty fluent and there are no big "nono-issues" included in the final version. Staying at the technical side i realy enjoy the graphic engine - not it's not state of the art, it's the heroes engine, but thats a good choice. This engine is well developed and reached a certain quality level you need to ensure a bug free running mmo. if you have a look at games like Age of Conan, creating a new engine, and new problems you realy realy look forward to have a solid gameplay and graphic engine with relativly low requirements. Furthermore the engine suits perfectly the kotor scenario, like the slight anime characteristic suits the TV-Series (CloneWars) and the Kotor gaming series as well. It feels like it was totaly the right choice.
    One negative aspect of that engine is the current ui and the character creation. But both issues are on the priority list quiet important for BioWare and we can expect better options there in the next big patches.

    Another great idea is the companion system, having the chance like in Kotor to learn the stories of up to 5 companions (per class) and being able to interact with them offers even more possibilites to go deeper into the storytelling, furthermore they act as your pets being realy tremendously helpful during your fights and leveling process.
    A matter of taste is the companion related crafting system. I personaly like it - the hardcore crafter will dislike it, but you will send your companions for crafting missions. You let them craft, "waste" their time and be able to continue with the things your are currently doing while improving your process. I realy appreciate it, but as I said not everybody will.

    PvP:
    PvP has a new aspect for the MMO-sector. It has (not on the open pvp planet ilum) a level equaliser. It buffs your HP and your skills to the highest level. So it is theoreticaly possible to fight lvl 10 vs. lvl 50. Theoreticaly because as a lvl 10 you are laking some skills and may be equipment, but you have a realistic chance to compete to a certain point. The good thing about it is that it is easier to play with your mates no matter what level they are and there will be pvp games going on during the level period, because the field of possible competetors is way wider than in usual mmos.
    The maps are pretty much known as Domination and Assault/Defence. What's new is the Hutt Ball. A quiet funny pvp map where you are able to play with the enemy faction as well. It's just a fun map, but it's well done... i won't write so much about it cause there are alot of videos out there.
    The PvP itself feels smooth. On the one hand the tanks and healers are not as useless/boring as they are often in other pvp systems, cause for example the tank can use his taunt to reduce damage in pvp and the fighting time seems to be quiet good. It's not that you have to fight through epic fights all the time.. it's not taking hours to one-on-one, but on the otherhand there is no one-hitting-slaughter-class in the game.

    Coming to the PVE aspect like flashpoints. I don't know how well done the raids are yet (I am lvl 40), but the flashpoints for groups are cool though. Some of them are again realy story driven and your decisions make an impact on how the dungeon is going on, some of them are straight forward pve flashpoints. Nearly all the bosses have abilites you have to take care of, so if you are not way overleveled there is no real tanks and spank for the most situations.

    For the last point before the conclusion I will cover the world design.
    The ones who know StarWars will realy enjoy the world they will be dropped in. The detail and the fauna is amazingly well done... again they have gotten the maximum out of the engine to get the right atmosphere to the game.


    As a conclusion I would highly recommend you to at least try the game. As a StarWars fan you will be amazed, but even as a casual MMO-Player you will have fun and enjoy. Give it a shot and don't be afraid, because of some people having to "flame" and "down-rank" the game so hard.    … Expand
  93. stocean
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    I'm a gamer that plays all kinds of games regardless of their genre. I'd been playing WoW since 2004 till 2010 and moved to Rift for a couple month, and now to Swtor. This game has some traits that I really missed from good old classic WoW and some inherent good personalities of the Bioware.

    Firstly, the huge world is actually there to explore. What I mean by this is that you don't just    I'm a gamer that plays all kinds of games regardless of their genre. I'd been playing WoW since 2004 till 2010 and moved to Rift for a couple month, and now to Swtor. This game has some traits that I really missed from good old classic WoW and some inherent good personalities of the Bioware.

    Firstly, the huge world is actually there to explore. What I mean by this is that you don't just seat around in the Capital, waiting for dungeon que to pop up and just kill yourself out of boredom in the process. In Swtor, you have to look for groups the old way and there are actually people to communicate with. For me, the large world that you actually have to explore which puts you to work with other people is the foundation of any MMORPG. The game doesn't force you to choose one way by giving one choice too much advantage though. What I like about Swtor is that you can truly play either way: Solo playing the story is satisfying enough but Group play feels very natural and fun. Many instances are positioned in the world so naturally that you often don't realize they're actually dungeons meant for a group of people.

    Secondly, the epic amount of immersive story telling. What I hated about Cataclysm is the destruction of good immersive story telling and lore in favor for convenient and easy play. In Swtor though, the game is built upon story telling, characters, and lore. Although admittedly the storytelling is not quite as good as other great Bioware single player titles, its quality and quantity are far above any other MMORPG. All 8 classes have different fully voice-overed stories as well so the replayability is amazing. It very much feels like playing buffed up version of DA:O with other people. Also the quests, while not too innovative tbh, actually put you to walk a lot. I know some people hate this but I really welcome this. If a game is too easy the experience is very forgettable, like in Cataclysm. Lastly, the classes aren't pigeon holed into set roles in favor for 'balance'. What I really like about classic RPG games is that the classes play very uniquely and each class has its clear specialty and weakness. There are things that you just can't do as effectively, but there are also things only you can do. This is why teaming up with other classes is so fun. WoW used to be like this, but since the arrival of DK who could do just everything including melee DPS, ranged DPS, AOE, Pet, Dot, Tank, DW, etc, every other class begun to be generalized as well and since Cata, there are effectively only 3 classes of tank, healer, and dps. You only get to choose what kind of 'theme' your character is, really. I think Swtor classes are very well made, built around their own unique strength rather than having just everything.

    There are some things that I don't like, however. Firstly, the game needs a bit more polishing imo. The experience is not as epic as other great Bioware titles. I can understand though since the amount of content this game offers is so huge. It doesn't mean they aren't great either. It's just not as epic as I expected from the company that produced so many great titles. Still much better than DA2 imo. Also, while the music is quite good, none are that memorable. Yes. They all feel very Lucas Artistic but games like this need some more memorable music imo. Such music gets people attached to the game. For example, I still hear the SW choir sound whenever I think about WoW, and I hear the 'Vigil' music whenever I think about Mass Effect 1. I hear the DA:O title music when I think about the game. I haven't found such moment in Swtor yet(except for the opening text movie music maybe? lol), which is quite unfortunate. Lastly, Bioware took it too safe. I love both Blizzard style and Bioware style but I'm not sure If I like the Bioware style trying to be like Blizzard too much. All of the Bioware games had their unique, fun skill system, class system, combat, and so on. Why not go for them instead of copying WoW? I understand that WoW had copied many previous RPG systems as well but the core gameplay was in line with Blizzard's own previous titles. I wonder how epic Swtor would have been if Bioware pushed their own style just a little bit bit more.

    Despite its drawbacks, Swtor is an epic MMORPG. I know the word 'epic' is so overused theseday but trust me, the game is epic in many ways. It's just that the game is too epic that some of the details feel a bit missing. Also the similarities with WoW can be both good and bad depending on the player. To me, though, although some of the EA feel spoils the game here and there, the game in general feels as if Blizzard and Bioware had a baby and his appearance(gameplay) resembles Blizzard and the personality(storytelling) feel similar to Bioware.    … Expand
  94. rockitman
    Dec 22, 2011
    9
    This is a great game, hands down. Many people are bashing this game while comparing it too heavily to WoW. Don't forget WoW, along with every other MMORPG has taken queues from their predecessor over the years. This is no different, and this is how games improve.
    Yes, there is a bunch of running, which improves after you get to level 25 and get a mount.
    Otherwise the voice acting is    This is a great game, hands down. Many people are bashing this game while comparing it too heavily to WoW. Don't forget WoW, along with every other MMORPG has taken queues from their predecessor over the years. This is no different, and this is how games improve.
    Yes, there is a bunch of running, which improves after you get to level 25 and get a mount.
    Otherwise the voice acting is incredible, the class variety is vast, the PvP is fun, the space missions are great, the graphics at max are wonderful.
    It has just been released, and I suspect it will be releasing many patches throughout the months to drastically improve upon current issues.
    I told myself I wouldnt get glued and here I am defending it in a review - It's a great game.    … Expand
  95. YassirX
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
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  96. DevilatorX
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Im a long time MMO player, with many games under my belt. I've played WoW from Vanilla to WotLK,
    Guildwars, Age of Conan, DC universe online, and a plenty of free MMO:s. So I have a lot to compare to, but I will try to review the game on its own.
    I usually dont write any reviews, but after seeing this game gain so many unfair negative reviews, some from people, who have probably never    Im a long time MMO player, with many games under my belt. I've played WoW from Vanilla to WotLK,
    Guildwars, Age of Conan, DC universe online, and a plenty of free MMO:s. So I have a lot to compare to, but I will try to review the game on its own.

    I usually dont write any reviews, but after seeing this game gain so many unfair negative reviews, some from people, who have probably never even played the game and are just trying get approvement from **** or some other communtity that hates everything fun, Ive decided to give my honest opinion on the game.

    So after playing this game to level 20 on my bounty hunter, im finally ready to give my first impression on the game. Ive had many great adventures on that journey, both alone and in groups. And i've still got more than half of the leveling content and the end game to see.

    So firstly I will talk about the gameplay. For those of you who have played any MMO since the success of World of Warcraft, the gameplay mechanics will probably feel instantly familiar. However i'm much more in control of my own character since i have to perform all the attacks by myself, even the auto-attack. The UI was a bit too flashy for my liking at first, but after a while I've gotten used to it. It works very well and has everything important in your reach. Its also pretty well customisable through ingame settings. Though i would like the option to make it more simplistic, and remove all the uneccessary decorations from it. There are plenty of great improvements to the usual gameplay. The companions add a great new twist into the game. Cause now you can play better while alone, even if you want to be a tank or a healer. And you can complete 4 man quests with just 2 players and 2 companions. Of course if there are for example 3 players, you can only summon 1 companion so it is in no way overpowered. The companions also help you in many ways, such as you can send them to sell your grey items to vendor if you run out of space or let them do the crafting for you while you are on your adventures (I especially like this system). Then they have spiced up the normal gameplay with fun elements, as your own spaceship and spacecombat.

    Now about the gameworlds. They are huge and immersive. And beatiful. I did not like the first planet I was on, but every planet ive been since has been great. I love how there is plenty of group quest-content inserted into each planet. The only downthing I have with these big planets, is that it may be a bit boring to run from one place to another before you get your first mount. Also the conversations and the story is a great improvement from other mmos.

    All the instances Ive been to have been fun, and immersed you in great adventures through the means of story, music and proper pacing. The difficulty's been about right too. Few wipes but not too challenging to make the group quit in the middle of run. Bioware has also been actively patching the game and it has already improved in many ways since its launch, wich was only a few days ago. I think all players who enjoy mmos should try this out. In its current state the game is a solid 8/10, but it has been the best mmo launch i have been part of, and the I see a great future for this game so ill give it 10/10 just for the potential, and to counter all those unfair, biased reviews.    … Expand
  97. Miir
    Dec 22, 2011
    8
    Ok, this is not the second coming of Jesus or a mmo revolution. But it is a very good and solid game nevertheless. It is a themepark MMO and Bioware did the same thing that WoW did 6 years ago. Took a already existing and well tested gamedynamic, added a famous IP, fine tuned some things and added the companies main strength, the story element. I'm looking forward to seeing where BiowareOk, this is not the second coming of Jesus or a mmo revolution. But it is a very good and solid game nevertheless. It is a themepark MMO and Bioware did the same thing that WoW did 6 years ago. Took a already existing and well tested gamedynamic, added a famous IP, fine tuned some things and added the companies main strength, the story element. I'm looking forward to seeing where Bioware will take this game in the future, it has so much more potensial, just like wow did when it first released.… Expand
  98. harvestsilvers
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Since the reviews are all over the place ill give my own list so you can see if your like me..( i will say one thing people who are rushers or have Add may have a issue with the game my wife is such a person shes not patient enough to listen to the story no mater how good it might be.
    1.SWTOR -10
    2.WOW- 10 3.Masseffect 1,2 -10 4.Eve -8 5.Skyrim -9 6.LOTRO-6 7.SWG-5 8.Rift-8    Since the reviews are all over the place ill give my own list so you can see if your like me..( i will say one thing people who are rushers or have Add may have a issue with the game my wife is such a person shes not patient enough to listen to the story no mater how good it might be.
    1.SWTOR -10
    2.WOW- 10
    3.Masseffect 1,2 -10
    4.Eve -8
    5.Skyrim -9
    6.LOTRO-6
    7.SWG-5
    8.Rift-8
    9.Dragon age orgins -7.5
    10.AOC-6.5
    11.Asherons call-9
    12.Everquest-7
    13.Everquest 2-6
    14.Every other mmo i have tried dozens- 6 or lower
    15.Anno 2070-10
    16.Starcraft 1,2-10
    17.Diablo 1-7
    18 Diablo 2-9    … Expand
  99. wargasm121
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    This game is amazing and one of the best MMOs on the market. People are hating on this game right now because they are trying to compare it to SWG and SWTOR is WAY better than SWG ever was. Bioware has brought all the best features from many great MMOs into one place and they polished it all into a great addition to the Star Wars universe. If you loved the KOTOR games you will love SWTOR.This game is amazing and one of the best MMOs on the market. People are hating on this game right now because they are trying to compare it to SWG and SWTOR is WAY better than SWG ever was. Bioware has brought all the best features from many great MMOs into one place and they polished it all into a great addition to the Star Wars universe. If you loved the KOTOR games you will love SWTOR. Dont listen to the cry babies and the haters buy the game and see for yourself how amazing this game really is. Best MMO to release in the last 10 years by far!… Expand
  100. Dramatika
    Dec 22, 2011
    10
    Very well made. You can tell a lot of hard work went into this game. Loving it so far. The storyline is amazing. environments and space combat are awesome. Love the 4 man grouping options its not so hectic being a healer now. Over all loving the game so far.
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Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 68 out of 73
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  1. RPGamer
    Apr 23, 2012
    80
    LucasArts generally exercised greater quality control of Star Wars games than most licensed properties receive, though that didn't necessarily translate into titles that were actually good. I've played a few other Star Wars games in the past, and while the SNES platformers were pretty good, this one is even better. Knights of the Old Republic may just be the best game in the franchise, and succeeds at being a top-tier RPG even if one has no interest in Star Wars. BioWare did the license proud.
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  2. GameCritics
    Mar 31, 2012
    70
    I wound up bailing out on Star Wars: The Old Republic well before hitting the level cap, but not before digging into it more so than any other MMO I've played. Even if it is an unhappy marriage between two wildly different game types, the fact that it kept me hooked for so long at least counts for something.
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  3. NZGamer
    Mar 5, 2012
    83
    A good game. It pays excellent homage to the film series (even though it's set before the movies), and is a really solid MMO.
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