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  1. Aug 16, 2023
    6
    After playing this game for close to 10 hours i can assure you that this game isn’t as bad as review-bombers tell you it is. The game just needs proper story & better AI. Those are the two
    main problems of Redfall. The gunplay is solid & the open-world is pretty fun to explore. Some of the environment is creepy, like the bigger buildings & caves. I think the game suffers from direction, it
    After playing this game for close to 10 hours i can assure you that this game isn’t as bad as review-bombers tell you it is. The game just needs proper story & better AI. Those are the two
    main problems of Redfall. The gunplay is solid & the open-world is pretty fun to explore. Some of the environment is creepy, like the bigger buildings & caves. I think the game suffers from direction, it wants to do many things at the same time but needs to focus on the story & core gameplay first. I think this is fixable with story DLC, which may be already in development & be released this fall. Something like COD Zombies but with Vampires would be fun & is most likely planned. I give this game a 6 out of 10, by no means a good game but not as bad as review-bombers rate it (0 out 10). It’s unfair to the studio to give it 0 out of 10 instead of mentioning the good aspect & bad aspects & place a fair review. Have a good day!
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  2. May 5, 2023
    7
    Redfall has now released and after waiting since it was announced. We can finally put a controller in our hands and test it out. Before I get into the review, let's get into the summary on what Redfall is all about.

    Redfall is about a vampire invasion of an island town called Redfall. You get four characters to choose from before starting the actual game. Characters that have their own
    Redfall has now released and after waiting since it was announced. We can finally put a controller in our hands and test it out. Before I get into the review, let's get into the summary on what Redfall is all about.

    Redfall is about a vampire invasion of an island town called Redfall. You get four characters to choose from before starting the actual game. Characters that have their own story. The characters talk to each other, which helps you learn about them specifically. What we do know, is that the main characters are like your standard Left 4 Dead and/or Back 4 Blood. Which sounds cool on paper but does it deliver? Let's find out.

    When I start the game, I am met with my character, in this case Jacob. You see two vampires feeding on a person. You can't help the person and are forces rlto watch them eat blood. Yes, you read correctly "eat". They don't look like they are sucking blood. They look like sloppy eaters who don't know how to bite off skins. In another way they are like intelligent zombies. Anyhow, as I lay there watching them, they end up notice me and begin to try and feed on me. Which does not happen, which is an obvious situation that is like a plot device from the Xbox 360 and PS3 Era. When they run, you get to meet the one of the big bads. A vampire lady called the Black Sun. They very same vampire who blocks out the sun in Elder Scrolls Skyrim: Dawnguard fashion.

    Then the gameplay starts; which feels like a Left 4 Dead game, but with vampires. When you start off, you are supposed to head out of the drained harbor and head to the fire station. They you get access to the main quests upon a quest table, which again feels like an Xbox 360 game mechanic.

    As you start exploring and doing the main quests and/or safe house quests. You find the repetitive gameplay loop when you start the main open-world activities. Which as bad as it sounds is not the worse part of the game. It give so much of a Left 4 Dead plot device and gameplay. It clicks with me. Which I admit I am enjoying the game even with the thirty frames per second. The thirty refresh rate is a bummer, but it isn't the biggest issue. The biggest issue is the amount of bugs within the game. From simple bugs and glitches to funny ones that Bethesda studios are known for. However, having to dashboard and reset the game to get quest objectives to work is frustrating. It will test a person's patience. The fun and adventure is good, but everything else hinders the experience to frustrate and disappoint many gamers. Even with all the bugs, which some are far and between since they only happen with co-op. The game has potential and is still fun and interesting if you like Left 4 Dead. However, if you are here for the co-op then you are in for a huge disappointment in Redfall. Co-op is broken, it has been dashboarding me and my friends, when we try to play together. Not only that it is not a seemless multiplayer experience. It acts like Left 4 Dead multiplayer. You have a host and only their progress counts. Yet, it is an easy way to get to level 40, which is the level cap of the game, super easily if you have plenty of friends playing. Even with the disconnect issues and game freezing that happens with co-op play. Most if not all the bugs and glitches occurs when playing co-op. Both game breaking and silly ones. From characters T posing to not being able to pause, crouch, or punch in the game. The characters themselves have their own personalities, but where they shine are their abilities and conversations with each other. Which means while Jacob and Devinder are the better choices to choose from, the best experience are if person has a character picked. One person picks Jacob, one pick Divinder, and so on. Otherwise, you are skipping character story and relationship development. What do I mean by character relationship development? The game supports a TRUST system which means when you play with people who are different characters, you get to have more dialog between the four characters. Which helps get to know each one. Now their abilities play a certain role for the game. With Jacob being the sniper and rogue type. While Devindernis the crowd control character. These two characters are wonderful to play as, because their skills are the most useful. Remi is the support, besides her healing ability, her other abilities are pretty much useless. She gets a robot companion that becomes an annoyance than a helpful tool. It gets in the way and the AI like all the other AI in the game is terrible. Then we have Layla, the psychic who can use her vampire EX Boyfriend to tank and he is decent, but falls flat later in the game.

    Now even with some of these set backs with the actual game, I honestly believe that Redfall does not deserve the overwhelming hate it is currently receiving. Is a game like Redfall perfect? No. However, it can be fun if you can look past the bugs or when co-op is working correctly.
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  3. May 15, 2023
    5
    Não acho que Redfall é horrível mas é uma grande decepção. É difícil de acreditar que a ARKANE lançou um jogo cheio de problemas gráficos, com uma péssima IA e ainda lançando o jogo sem modo performance nos consoles (apenas com modo qualidade a 30 fps) e muito mal otimizado no pc. Apesar disso tem coisas positivas, a gemeplay é divertida, a história é interessante e a exploração da cidadeNão acho que Redfall é horrível mas é uma grande decepção. É difícil de acreditar que a ARKANE lançou um jogo cheio de problemas gráficos, com uma péssima IA e ainda lançando o jogo sem modo performance nos consoles (apenas com modo qualidade a 30 fps) e muito mal otimizado no pc. Apesar disso tem coisas positivas, a gemeplay é divertida, a história é interessante e a exploração da cidade é boa porém é bem vazia, mas precisava de mais tempo no forno. Espero que Redfall sirva de lição pra Arkane e pro Xbox para lançar seus jogos quando estiverem de fato PRONTOS e não cheio de defeitos Expand
  4. May 6, 2023
    7
    The game is quite a lot of fun despite what fanboys say. I'm digging the feeling of isolation early on, it adds to the experience. The gunplay is responsive and fun. I've seen people saying the enemy AI is too dumb, in my experience I've found the AI to be on the high side. I've had countless enemies notice me for well over 100 yards away. Yes it needs work, but that's literally everyThe game is quite a lot of fun despite what fanboys say. I'm digging the feeling of isolation early on, it adds to the experience. The gunplay is responsive and fun. I've seen people saying the enemy AI is too dumb, in my experience I've found the AI to be on the high side. I've had countless enemies notice me for well over 100 yards away. Yes it needs work, but that's literally every game these days. I'm enjoying this game a lot and wholeheartedly disagree with the naysayers. Expand
  5. May 4, 2023
    6
    AI is bad, game only runs at 30fps, needs a lot of improvements to become the game it was supposed to be.
  6. Sxo
    May 9, 2023
    5
    This game isn’t such bad as many people wrote here. I had very high expectation from Arkane because last games from this studio was very very good and I’m disappointed… Redfall is one of most generic open world shooter I ever saw and had many bugs. Created cities are beautiful and core mechanics are good and fun because they are taken from previous games, rest are bad or average max… TheThis game isn’t such bad as many people wrote here. I had very high expectation from Arkane because last games from this studio was very very good and I’m disappointed… Redfall is one of most generic open world shooter I ever saw and had many bugs. Created cities are beautiful and core mechanics are good and fun because they are taken from previous games, rest are bad or average max… The vampires without teeth. Expand
  7. May 4, 2023
    7
    It's a decent game wrapped in a whole load of issues, issues I honestly believe can and will be fixed in the up coming days, weeks and months. A nice big open world with some solid gunplay, but, I honestly think if this game was made by any other developers it would score much better. I tip my hat to Arkane for trying something new and different to their other games.
  8. May 11, 2023
    7
    I’ve had lots of fun with Redfall. It isn’t perfect but some of the hate is unwarranted
  9. May 4, 2023
    7
    Good Game. A little buggy but still entertaining solo or with friends. Think Dead Island with Vamps
  10. May 11, 2023
    7
    This game is a looter shooter at its core and it does exactly that.

    I like the atmosphere and the lighting as well as the variety of weapons & weapon perks the player abilities are fun as well. The aim on controller needs adjusting its nothing a good gamer can not handle it just needs tweaking, the map navigation needs more work as well it requires a mission icon and a quick pointer.
    This game is a looter shooter at its core and it does exactly that.

    I like the atmosphere and the lighting as well as the variety of weapons & weapon perks the player abilities are fun as well.

    The aim on controller needs adjusting its nothing a good gamer can not handle it just needs tweaking, the map navigation needs more work as well it requires a mission icon and a quick pointer.

    Overall enjoying the game and thank god nobody has a bow, for a first attempt Arkane have done a decent job.

    looking forward to some game improvements as all game have recently.

    Gave it a 7 as there is nothing at the game foundation that is fundamentally wrong and the issues I have seen are patchable.
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  11. May 9, 2023
    6
    Alright here me out, cause I know many will think a 6 is a higher score then this game deserves.

    I’ll start with the cons, which to be fair there are more then a few. I often experience a bug where after an extended amount of play time, my map button and crouch button will stop working, it makes a little ding noise but that’s it. Why don’t vampires drop anything or at least anything of
    Alright here me out, cause I know many will think a 6 is a higher score then this game deserves.

    I’ll start with the cons, which to be fair there are more then a few. I often experience a bug where after an extended amount of play time, my map button and crouch button will stop working, it makes a little ding noise but that’s it. Why don’t vampires drop anything or at least anything of value, doesn’t make it worth it to spend the ammo. Only Rooks drop anything worth it.
    No cut scenes? Or real ones for that matter, just still frames with narration. Things I liked, for its issues and lack of a deep story, it’s still a fun shooter that’s easy to pick up and put down without having to worry about forgetting where you are or what you’re doing. Perfect for gamer dads that work full time. It’s got some fun mechanics and basic rpg elements that keep things just interesting enough. It’s a nice appetizer game, just fun enough to keep you busy till something you’re excited about comes out…..hopefully you weren’t too excited about this one though.
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  12. May 28, 2023
    6
    I understand that coming from Arkane this is absolutely a deception. However, to me it's a solid 6.5/10, which for the last few years in this industry is not that bad. As a solo player, it really saddens me that there is no matchmaking. I'd love to try this with others as I'm sure it's much more fun that way. But even with that, they need to add progress save in multiplayer, the fact thatI understand that coming from Arkane this is absolutely a deception. However, to me it's a solid 6.5/10, which for the last few years in this industry is not that bad. As a solo player, it really saddens me that there is no matchmaking. I'd love to try this with others as I'm sure it's much more fun that way. But even with that, they need to add progress save in multiplayer, the fact that they don't have this setup just shows that this game was nowhere near ready for release, as a good online multiplayer coop CANNOT release without these two features. For the rest, I find the ambiance and exploration pretty fun. I don't really mind the graphics, but with the game being this ugly, no 60fps is a real slap in the face.

    This feels like I'm playing an old game on a first gen PS4. Again, not a huge problem for me, but for 70$, sorry but that's way, way unacceptable. Having game pass, I feel slightly less robbed, but that's the problem with game pass: it makes us more tolerant to BS.

    I think Arkane actually had a fun vision here, and it IS fun. It just needed a solid 6 more months in the oven, which is not an Arkane decision, but a Bethesda/Microsoft problem.

    This is really sad because this release is probably going to make things change at Arkane when I really don't think they should, they probably won't try this genre again for a good while, and that's a damned shame, because Arkane is an incredible studio that I still have a lot of faith in.

    As for Xbox/Bethesda, this makes me very worried about the overall future of the platform, and Starfield. If Starfield is anything short of amazing, I'm selling my Xbox and picking up a new hobby, the gaming industry doesn't make fun and interesting things anymore, just drugs for dopamine addicts, and I can't take it anymore.

    How about Dishonored 3, Arkane?
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  13. May 13, 2023
    7
    Entretenido sin más, le falta pulir sobretodo la ia de los enemigos entre otras cosas.
  14. May 19, 2023
    5
    1st party? I.A. absent
    30 FPS on Xbox sx at launch
    Various Bug and glicthes
  15. May 13, 2023
    7
    juegos normalito me esperaba mas de arkane IA es de los peores de juego tambien creo que la prensa a exagerado mucho de con el juego no es buen juego pero tampoco es lo peor del mundo es mas es super divertido el juegos en cooperativo
  16. May 11, 2023
    6
    Tbh the game isn’t horrible so far. I like the toony animation style and the gameplay loop is ok. Sure enemy ai may be stupid at times and the Gagne lags at some points but I guess I’m lucky to not see any game breaking bugs YET. I think if they have a couple patch fixes this will shape up to a great game to play with a party of 4 people. Bugs are what is making me rate low so when fixedTbh the game isn’t horrible so far. I like the toony animation style and the gameplay loop is ok. Sure enemy ai may be stupid at times and the Gagne lags at some points but I guess I’m lucky to not see any game breaking bugs YET. I think if they have a couple patch fixes this will shape up to a great game to play with a party of 4 people. Bugs are what is making me rate low so when fixed it’s probably going to be a 8-9 Expand
  17. May 10, 2023
    5
    I was playing in coop in friends and for a while a solo game. Somehow it was fun nevertheless huge amount of bugs and seriously flawed gameplay. I don't see how it could become a good game even if they spend a lot of time on it, because it missing so many aspect of what make Arkane game a good game.

    Also game is very easy, because AI does not work
  18. May 16, 2023
    7
    The game not bad but should be played in co-op.yggfcfçccccccffccccccccccfff
  19. May 8, 2023
    6
    Not a great game by any means. but, it is fun under all that broken ugliness.
    I tweaked the controls doesn't make me wanna puke anymore so there is that! And I am really enjoying co-op and that is where this game shines most for me. Fix the game and we have something that all intentions is special. Maybe I change my score
  20. Jun 4, 2023
    6
    Man kann es zocken, ist aber nichts besonderes. Das Setting gefällt mir, und mit Freunden kann man Spaß haben.
  21. May 7, 2023
    7
    I didn't like the game since initial trailers  and I only ended testing it because it was free in Gamepass and people hate it... but I ended liking it A LOT and I'm not sure totally why I like it. I understand the criticisms, they are valid, but the thing is the game is fun, addictive and immersive for me. I must say I play alone. World is smaller than actual open world games and scenariosI didn't like the game since initial trailers  and I only ended testing it because it was free in Gamepass and people hate it... but I ended liking it A LOT and I'm not sure totally why I like it. I understand the criticisms, they are valid, but the thing is the game is fun, addictive and immersive for me. I must say I play alone. World is smaller than actual open world games and scenarios are plenty of visual narrative, also, as people say, it's very empty of enemies, but the result of this is good for me, instead of being like a dumbass action game it feels more like an Arkane game or a Bioshock in open world. Gunplay is very satisfying also, specially headshots, they feel amazing thanks to the feedback sound. I'm totally sure if this game was a third party game it would have obtained no less than a 7. Expand
  22. May 25, 2023
    7
    For me this is a worst game from Arkane, but first i hate open worlds, then I really don't like vampires in the game.
    But I downloaded game on console and pc and tried for few hours.
    No critical bugs, some problems with low quality textures somewhere. But the story i very poor. Vampires are almost the same, boooring. The same about the rest of enemies.. I really expected something like
    For me this is a worst game from Arkane, but first i hate open worlds, then I really don't like vampires in the game.
    But I downloaded game on console and pc and tried for few hours.
    No critical bugs, some problems with low quality textures somewhere.
    But the story i very poor. Vampires are almost the same, boooring. The same about the rest of enemies..
    I really expected something like outriders, darktide, vermintide or l4d/b4b.
    Here no citizens fighting with vampires, lack of various self-proclaimed bands, lack of fights between vampires and controlled be them servants, fanatics.. City is boooring so much.
    Why , the hell, they did open world: it is power consuming and game is so poor because of that. mentioned similar games are heaven better.
    Anyway if you like this graphic style, have a time you can try...but this is for sure game to play with friends.
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  23. May 9, 2023
    6
    Even with all the bugs redfall is still an extremely fun game to play in co-op ignore most of the haters they clearly havnt played it
  24. May 14, 2023
    6
    Ich fange mit den positiven sachen an und zwar die Gute story ich finde die Geschichte ziemlich interessant und gut geschrieben die vampire sehen grusselig aus und bedrückende admosphäre ist genial auch in koop macht es viel spaß die welt zu erkunden und vampire zu jagen wen das mal bug und ruckler frei funktionieren würde und hier fangen die Probleme an das spiel wirkt an machen eckenIch fange mit den positiven sachen an und zwar die Gute story ich finde die Geschichte ziemlich interessant und gut geschrieben die vampire sehen grusselig aus und bedrückende admosphäre ist genial auch in koop macht es viel spaß die welt zu erkunden und vampire zu jagen wen das mal bug und ruckler frei funktionieren würde und hier fangen die Probleme an das spiel wirkt an machen ecken einfach nur unfertig das gameplay funktioniert nicht ohne ruckler und die KI der gegner sind ap und zu viel zu blöde um voran zukommen,und die Qualität des spiel entspricht nicht der standarn von arkane und das ist schade weil spiele wie prey oder auch dishonerd erxtrem gut sind und das meist egal in welchen Aspekten und wir haben die series x die stärkste konsole und dan nur 30fps das ist schade.,Aber egal es ist kein schlechtest spiel und es hat auch seine stärken und arkane wirt es nächtes mal besser machen 65100 Expand
  25. May 10, 2023
    6
    Redfall is a video game that has good ideas, the problem is that it didn't know how to present them well. Also another important point is the issue that there is no 60 FPS on Xbox series X/S, being a "Next-Gen" game it should not run at 30 FPS.
  26. May 9, 2023
    7
    Redfall me parece interesante pero algo genérico. Me interesa la idea de los vampiros y no zombies ( cómo en muchos casos) pero pudo estar mejor ejecutado. A nivel de historia es simple pero estos juegos no tratan tanto de eso pero igual esta funciona. A nivel de gameplay es divertido pero se necesitan mejoras en las animaciones. La dificultad te suele retar cuando hay vampiros, pero seRedfall me parece interesante pero algo genérico. Me interesa la idea de los vampiros y no zombies ( cómo en muchos casos) pero pudo estar mejor ejecutado. A nivel de historia es simple pero estos juegos no tratan tanto de eso pero igual esta funciona. A nivel de gameplay es divertido pero se necesitan mejoras en las animaciones. La dificultad te suele retar cuando hay vampiros, pero se puede arruinar debido a la terrible IA. Los personajes son buenos y tienen lo suyo, yo elegí a Jacob y debo decir que me gusta su diseño y habilidades pero no me gusta su actitud con su cuervo. Me encontré algunos bugs y algunas texturas tardan en cargar, y a nivel gráfico no es tan bueno, pero no hay tanta cosa mala ya que siento que tiene el estilo de fortnite, pero molesta que sea un título Next-Gen. El juego esta divertido, aveces en multijugador puede estar desequilibrado debido a los niveles de tus amigos o los tuyos, pero me parece divertido, solo que necesita pulirse el nivel técnico, gráfico y arreglar bugs y así puede ser mejor valorado . Expand
  27. May 10, 2023
    5
    Redfall was a game that I really wanted to be fun but unfortunately was disappointed with the end product. I spent roughly 2 hours with it and during those 2 hours, it couldn't keep me engaged. I had played by myself on my pc and the game had a rough time running, with mostly low frame rates being my main issue. I’ll start with some pros, I do actually like the intro to the game. I likeRedfall was a game that I really wanted to be fun but unfortunately was disappointed with the end product. I spent roughly 2 hours with it and during those 2 hours, it couldn't keep me engaged. I had played by myself on my pc and the game had a rough time running, with mostly low frame rates being my main issue. I’ll start with some pros, I do actually like the intro to the game. I like the setting of Redfall, a town full of vampires that trap the locals and now you and 3 other characters have to fight the vampires head-on and free the town. It reminds me of Far Cry 5 and funny enough some of the open world feels like Far Cry which is something that I liked. It also helped that the game itself has that familiar art style that was used in previous games like Dishonored, Prey, and Deathloop so it gives the game a sort of aesthetic. Overall the world is very cool but sadly there are too many negatives to be able to enjoy it.
    Now with the negatives, some of the writing in this game is just atrocious. I am not gonna attack anyone who wrote it or say that I could’ve done better but writing is just bad. Some of the characters have dialogue that reminds me of the remake of Saints Row which was just cringy. I played Layla, the college student, and as a college student, this character was the most stereotypical college student ever written in games. I liked her powers and thought she looked so cool but her writing is some of the worst, especially when she repeats lines in the open world after staking a vampire. The story had that strong start giving you sort of the lore on how the town got taken over but after that intro, the story just takes a huge backseat. There’s still a “story” but it's not engaging at all. I got to a part in a mansion where you learn some more backstory but by then I was so bored I didn’t want to pay attention and was just trying to rush the mission. The gameplay itself is alright, it can be fun at first but then gets really boring an hour in. It plays very similar to Far Cry but watered down a ton. Finally, as mentioned before, the game did not run well. I was just playing on the most basic setting but the low frame rate and pop-in texture was so bad that it sometimes would affect my actual combat.
    I truly didn’t want this game to fail, I loved Arkane’s previous games and I was hopeful that Xbox would have a nice turnaround and lead Xbox down a bright future but unfortunately, this game is just not good. Maybe it's better if you play with friends but I don’t see that helping a bit. Thankfully I didn't buy the game and played it on Game Pass but even for free I was still really disappointed. Maybe it might have a redemption story later on but right now it's a 5/10 for me.
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  28. May 8, 2023
    6
    Game has no magic like previous Arkane games, but still single player can be enjoyable. Simple and stupid opponents. Nice music and sounds, which make it little creepy.
    Probably coop game makes more fun, as all comments from our character are intended to someone nearby. Using more/mixed powers from different characters from team probably makes more sense.
    Still, don't understand all
    Game has no magic like previous Arkane games, but still single player can be enjoyable. Simple and stupid opponents. Nice music and sounds, which make it little creepy.
    Probably coop game makes more fun, as all comments from our character are intended to someone nearby. Using more/mixed powers from different characters from team probably makes more sense.
    Still, don't understand all those really negative comments.
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  29. May 15, 2023
    5
    Je mets la moyenne par respect pour le travail des développeurs, mais j'avoue avoir tenu 20mn avant de laissé tomber.
    Je n'ai pas du tout accroché.
    Il va peut-être conquérir d'autre personnes, mais pas pour moi.
    Je l'attendais avec impatience, c'est vraiment dommage.
  30. May 15, 2023
    7
    I know this game was the fun one to hate on but I want to give you an honest review. The game is fun solo. I have not played an online match yet and have been slowly working through the game. Since completing it, i was able to get all of the achievements but maybe four and ran into none of the issues others did because I am not hosting a live match. The characters are fun, the upgrades areI know this game was the fun one to hate on but I want to give you an honest review. The game is fun solo. I have not played an online match yet and have been slowly working through the game. Since completing it, i was able to get all of the achievements but maybe four and ran into none of the issues others did because I am not hosting a live match. The characters are fun, the upgrades are plentiful, and the lack of fetch quests make it so much more enjoyable for me. The art style is unique and the game looks good for the most part. Things that it needs, a patch to fix the online play so that gamers are not afraid to try it, more vampire stabbing animations, and a better way to tie in the online verse solo experience. I would of enjoyed to have a bot to help me in tough battles when playing solo. Give it a try, I promise it will be better then what the masses who never touched it are screaming about. Expand
Metascore
56

Mixed or average reviews - based on 69 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 7 out of 69
  2. Negative: 19 out of 69
  1. Jul 31, 2023
    40
    The result is a game with no identity of its own. Redfall simultaneously wants to be a looter shooter like Borderlands, in an open world like Fallout's, with action like Dying light and a lengthy multiplayer experience like Destiny. But it fails on all counts. The game environments are bleakly empty, the gameplay is wooden. Like the vampires from the world of Redfall, the game has no soul.
  2. May 30, 2023
    60
    Sadly, Redfall had unbelievable potential and a dynamic studio behind this that is known for quality gaming, but under delivered at quite literally almost every facet of the game. Redfall, unfortunately, should be avoided, and in fact, I hope that the industry starts taking a look at these games and starts evaluating its processes, because if you're only as good as your last game, then Arkane isn't looking good at all.
  3. May 22, 2023
    50
    Redfall has the potential to be a good game, but it has a bunch of issues that need fixing first.