Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords

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  1. Keron_Heruman
    Aug 24, 2023
    9
    Very good cRPG, with a solid history and well written characters... As good as KOTOR but with little improvements, it depends completely on a mod to unlock all content... (Without mod not more than 7/10)
  2. Magical_Viktor
    Apr 30, 2023
    9
    Существуют просто Зло и Большое Зло, а за ними обоими в тени прячется Очень Большое Зло. Очень Большое Зло, Геральт, это такое, которого ты и представить себе не можешь, даже если думаешь, будто уже ничто не в состоянии тебя удивить. И знаешь, Геральт, порой бывает так, что Очень Большое Зло схватит тебя за горло и скажет: «Выбирай, братец, либо я, либо то, которое чуточку поменьше»Существуют просто Зло и Большое Зло, а за ними обоими в тени прячется Очень Большое Зло. Очень Большое Зло, Геральт, это такое, которого ты и представить себе не можешь, даже если думаешь, будто уже ничто не в состоянии тебя удивить. И знаешь, Геральт, порой бывает так, что Очень Большое Зло схватит тебя за горло и скажет: «Выбирай, братец, либо я, либо то, которое чуточку поменьше»
  3. AdoMobA
    Mar 17, 2023
    10
    Pros
    - even more roleplaying opportunities than the first game
    - some of the most interesting villains with ideologies that far surpass most other games - one of the most interesting takes on the Force, as both the Light and Dark side are given a fair shake and looked at through different philosophical angles - interesting party composition that allows for a lot more nuance in    Pros
    - even more roleplaying opportunities than the first game
    - some of the most interesting villains with ideologies that far surpass most other games
    - one of the most interesting takes on the Force, as both the Light and Dark side are given a fair shake and looked at through different philosophical angles
    - interesting party composition that allows for a lot more nuance in roleplaying
    - a great ending that feels earned
    - amazing build potential
    - fantastic dialogue options that allow you to make good points and take interesting stances against different philosophies

    Cons
    - 2005 RPG - clunkiness ensues
    - mired with more technical issues than the first game
    - extremely helped by the Restored Content Mod as it ads events, items and cut content that makes the game feel a lot better

    The Sith Lords is an amazing continuation of the stellar KotOR in every aspect besides technical. The game has been through a troubled and rushed development cycle leaving a lot of the content on the cutting room floor. Luckily we can see it today in a much more complete form through the community Restored Content Mod.

    When it comes to the story, it is much looser than the first game. This is a fantastic thing for the sequel as it allows for much more opportunity to shape your character into being however you like it.

    This is accomplished through a take on the Force that is so nuanced, I have not seen it replicated in any other Star Wars media. The philosophical angles through which the Force is studied in this game uncovers the darker and stagnant parts of the Light side, and the more caring and brutal parts of the Dark.

    All of this is accomplished through one of the most interesting Star Wars characters ever made, Kreia. When I was younger I hated her as she took some of the most antagonistic stances against my goody two shoes character that I have ever seen. Replaying this game as an adult, Kreia is possibly one of the best representations of the Light side tempered by Dark and Dark side tempered by Light I have ever seen.

    What also helps with this nuanced take is the dialogue. A lot of games offer me dialogue of three choices: Nice guy, Neutral potato and a Petulant child. This game, no no no. Almost every statement by any character has between six to ten responses, where they don't just not allow people's abuse, you make good points alongside that. Talking smack to Atris while standing your ground as a respectable human being is one of my favorite moments still to this day.

    The combat has seen some improvements through new skills. The added benefit of being able to mentor most party members into becoming Jedi allows for some of the most fun gameplay the series ever had.

    All in all, The Sith Lords is one of the best RPGs ever made and you should do yourself a favor of picking it up when you have time.    … Expand
  4. ylnylmn
    Mar 14, 2023
    9
    Indeed, Obsidian makes very good rpg games. This is one of them. Various characters and developing them is very enjoyable. Dialogues are very good. The Star Wars world and atmosphere is very good. I wish they made movies about those times. There are 3 aspects of the game that I don't like.
    1. Upgrade is very enjoyable but a bit difficult to use. The menu could have been done better.
    2.    Indeed, Obsidian makes very good rpg games. This is one of them. Various characters and developing them is very enjoyable. Dialogues are very good. The Star Wars world and atmosphere is very good. I wish they made movies about those times. There are 3 aspects of the game that I don't like.
    1. Upgrade is very enjoyable but a bit difficult to use. The menu could have been done better.
    2. We can't see which buffs we are using, there is only an arrow sign. It could have been detailed.
    3. Pazaak is most likely rigged. Especially the pazaak player in Dantooine.    … Expand
  5. Lagosta_Comuna
    Sep 13, 2022
    9
    quase tao bo quanto o oprimeiro adorei cara queria que fosse rerfeito tbm quem sabe ne
  6. ReeceG
    Jun 23, 2022
    8
    First off, the game is clearly unfinished and several years old so take that into consideration before you buy it. That said, specifically on pc you will be able to install the restored content mod, which is a project by the community to restore the game to its finished state. It isn’t perfect, but the game is definitely better with it than without.

    Now that all that is over with, let’s    First off, the game is clearly unfinished and several years old so take that into consideration before you buy it. That said, specifically on pc you will be able to install the restored content mod, which is a project by the community to restore the game to its finished state. It isn’t perfect, but the game is definitely better with it than without.

    Now that all that is over with, let’s get into the meat and potatoes. KOTOR 2 is a masterpiece when it comes to Star Wars storytelling. This game really shines not in the gameplay but when you get to learn about the world, your companions, or the overarching story. Overall, the gameplay is old and janky but it holds up well enough and will be easy to overlook if you’re in it for the story.    … Expand
  7. talus151
    Jun 14, 2022
    9
    Love this game. A great sequel to one of my favourite games, didn’t disappoint!
  8. BrotherMan
    Jun 12, 2022
    8
    Very nice follow-up to its prequel with a tad less interesting story. Highlight of the game are the characters Kreia and Darth Nihilus.
  9. jordangaming529
    Jun 11, 2022
    10
    Knights of the Old Republic 2 is the rare kind of sequel that exceeds over its predecessor in so many ways. It's unfortunate that the game was rushed, however thanks to the community, the restored content mod is as close as to what Obsidian originally intended. And I'm so thankful that this game exists. I don't think Disney could ever compete. And I'm also happy to report that this oneKnights of the Old Republic 2 is the rare kind of sequel that exceeds over its predecessor in so many ways. It's unfortunate that the game was rushed, however thanks to the community, the restored content mod is as close as to what Obsidian originally intended. And I'm so thankful that this game exists. I don't think Disney could ever compete. And I'm also happy to report that this one actually works without mods!… Expand
  10. Uriels
    Jun 6, 2022
    8
    Absolutely brilliant, if troubled, game.

    Lucasfilm's forcing Obsidian to release the game for Christmas resulted in numerous problems. Make sure to get the Restored Content mod or you'll miss a lot of great content which got cut to handle that misguided pressure. I used to be strongly ambiguous about the most central storyline and its believability, since the character in question is    Absolutely brilliant, if troubled, game.

    Lucasfilm's forcing Obsidian to release the game for Christmas resulted in numerous problems. Make sure to get the Restored Content mod or you'll miss a lot of great content which got cut to handle that misguided pressure.

    I used to be strongly ambiguous about the most central storyline and its believability, since the character in question is highly suspicious from the start, but could you really cut the stinky thread?

    The variety of character builds that work at least in normal mode is wonderful.

    The fact Steam build with mods I like often immobilizes a character in a fight maddens me, but I actually put up with for the sake of the other things the game offers :D    … Expand
  11. Jackie_Jackson
    May 26, 2022
    9
    Охх щит хир ви гоу егейн блин чтобы вы шарили пацаны Дарт Реван это тёлка что значит никанон сами вы никанон блин пошли в жопу
  12. Ragegoberts
    Apr 3, 2022
    0
    the combat system is utter trash. have fun missing 90% of your attacks cause your guy is too stupid to hit anything. avoid this trash
  13. johnny__a
    Nov 23, 2021
    8
    Nice RPG with a again a great story in an immersive world. Very similar to its predecessor: outdated gameplay elements, but still holds up today.
  14. Axilley
    Jul 22, 2021
    8
    good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good good swtor 2 gh
  15. Kai82
    Jun 19, 2021
    7
    Sadly the games development was rushed because of a short deadline and had an abrupt ending. Without this it would be the best Star Wars videogame even making the excellent prequel look inferior. It improves on nearly all levels. It has a fascinating story with depth and a lot of philosophical themes. The RPG gameplay works well and the characters are even better than before. In short itSadly the games development was rushed because of a short deadline and had an abrupt ending. Without this it would be the best Star Wars videogame even making the excellent prequel look inferior. It improves on nearly all levels. It has a fascinating story with depth and a lot of philosophical themes. The RPG gameplay works well and the characters are even better than before. In short it would be a prime contender for a 10/10 without hesitation and even with the abrupt ending I feel compelled to lean in this direction. I must admit that some of the enjoyment depends on how much patched your version of the game is. At release it was quite full of bugs and this harmed the immersion and enjoyment. Luckily for me I read about this and only got the game after the patches fixed the bug issues. Story: It is set a few years after the prequel which means approx 4000 years before the events of the original trilogy. When the Mandalorians attacked the Old Republic the Jedi order did not help in defeating them because of fear, hesitation and political motives (True defenders of peace and guardians of the Old Republic). A few Jedi rebelled against this ignorance lead by Revan and Malak who joined the Republic military and ultimately saved the Republic but turned later to the dark side and caused another conflict (Shown / resolved in the prequel). Your main character followed them into the war against the Mandalorians but refused to join them later on or turn to the dark side. Because of this the Jedi order exiled him and she/he became know as “The Exile”. After many years in exile the main character is drawn into new events that are again a threat to the Republic, Jedi order and have a connection to the past that he/she abandoned. The story is excellent and has a lot of depth. It shows you for example that there is more than black and white morality and that all decisions have effects (like a stone tossed into water creating ripples). It is enjoyable and immersive and one of the best (unfinished) stories in videogames. Sadly you clearly recognize that the last chapter was cut and the ending is abrupt and forced. Bonus for the philosophical themes as even today there are people discussing about it. Characters: This game has a magnificent cast of characters. Be it your party members or the mayor enemies. All have their own story, motives and world views. I should mention that some are restricted to the gender of the main character or your moral alignment. Only because of avoiding spoilers I will not mention my favorite characters but will remark that there are many I still remember after all the years. There are a lot of fond memories and their might be some (optional) events that change characters. Gameplay: You create your character similar to D&D rules (Dungeon and Dragons). I recommend to read a guide or two and GameFAQs is pretty good here. This means putting points into stats like strength, dexterity, constitution, wisdom, intelligence and charisma. With this you set up your play-style or better said character efficiency. For example more constitution means more health, dexterity works for evasion etc. Then there are the skills and I want to mention that the non combat skills are quite good too. I develop my persuasion and problem solving skills first as those were valuable (I still was able to be a terrific fighter later on). All skills have a purpose while I freely admit that some are better than others. Just think a bit about your preferences as you cant be a master of all. There are feats to improve your character and you have to chose a class. As per RPG standards you level up and develop your character even further. Setting / worldbuilding: This is how you use a license (Also a side-blow to EA). Like I already said they paid attention on the large scale by creating worlds that is fascinating, immersive and enjoyable and in details when you for example try to use Jedi mind manipulation on a Toydarian (Watto’s species) or explain how Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan could hold on their breath for so long in Episode 1. This is a near perfect use of the Star Wars universe. Technical: Again this was graphically impressive at the time of release but naturally aged a bit. Still good enough for me but graphic enthusiast will complain without any doubt. The soundtrack was well done. Bugs: I already mentioned that I joined later after the bugs were fixed. So I cant complain but must warn you for the unpatched experience. Overall this is an unfinished masterpiece and a classic. A sequel that puts its predecessor to shame. If they would have finished the final chapter and ironed out the bugs before release it would be one of the most legendary games of its time. I hesitate to lower my rating as I had so much fun with the game even when I say a rushed ending is a mayor sin in gaming. I give a 7/10 and say it is a 10/10 game up to the abrupt ending. Worth playing especially for Star Wars fans.… Expand
  16. Flavius91
    May 2, 2021
    10
    I can`t say this one was realised as well as the first one, but still: the characters are enjoyable and also the Star Wars Lore is great.
  17. Dom007
    Mar 22, 2021
    8
    This game would have been top quality if it wasn't rushed because the story is just fantastic. The bugs are seriously annoying and persistent, even in the modded version of the game. The combat unfortunately didn't improve much upon KOTOR 1 either.
  18. nazarkin123
    Mar 11, 2021
    8
    The very interesting story is even a bit overloaded. In the end, it feels like it's too long.
  19. Traxillion
    Feb 21, 2021
    6
    Absolutely brilliant writing, world-building, and lore ruined by the incredible amount of cut content and rushed corners.

    LucasArts gutted a masterpiece by rushing this game out, as evident in the difference between playing this game without the cut content mod and with the cut content mod.
  20. letefte
    Feb 4, 2021
    10
    Easily the best deconstruction on the Star Wars setting. An engaging tale that will make you question your preconceptions about the force and Star Wars as a hole. Some of the best written companions to ever grace an rpg, as expected from Obsidian's golden days. If you like rpgs, Star Wars or both then you owe it to yourself to check KOTOR 2.
  21. Ympero
    Dec 20, 2020
    7
    Game: 7/10
    Story: 7/10
    Playability: 7/10
    Graphics: 7/10
    Music: 8/10

    Very good game!
    Stability: 6/10
  22. DartRM
    Dec 15, 2020
    10
    Найулюбленіша гра дитинства.
    Навіть зараз вона крута, особливо з модами на відновлення видаленого контенту)
  23. legosdopoop
    Jul 3, 2020
    10
    Everything I want to say about this game has probably already been said. Probably the major flaw of this game is the bugs, but I can look past it since the game came out in 2005. Now that I've mentioned all the flaws about the game lets talk about what makes this game so great.
    First, the gameplay is not the greatest of all time but it still makes for a fun and challenging time. There are    Everything I want to say about this game has probably already been said. Probably the major flaw of this game is the bugs, but I can look past it since the game came out in 2005. Now that I've mentioned all the flaws about the game lets talk about what makes this game so great.
    First, the gameplay is not the greatest of all time but it still makes for a fun and challenging time. There are tons of options for playstyle and customization; From the weapons, armor, force powers, dialogue, skill points, you get to decide how you upgrade and use them.
    Next, the worlds you get to play on are each so unique and fun to explore. Each world has it's own lore history too it which makes it easy to take your time on each planet and learn more about it.
    Lastly, the best part of the game is the story it tells and the themes it reveals to the player. This is a story not about light and dark but rather a morally grey story. It introduces themes of forgiveness, obsession, and letting go(I'm sure there are more btw). SW: KOTOR 2 was truly ahead of its time for storytelling in videogames, and makes it easily one of the greatest RPGs of all-time.    … Expand
  24. bancandrei
    May 15, 2020
    8
    While the first one may be better known, especially for it's twist, this is the superior game for me and the best star wars game. It felt like it added something to the universe by fleshing out the dark side, it's got great characters, a good story and a combat system that for it's time was probably the best compromise.
  25. ElCucuy
    Mar 18, 2020
    7
    Крайне неровная игра, местами хочется в восторге кричать 10 ИЗ 10, местами хочется её просто удалить и больше никогда не возвращаться. Так получилось из-за тяжёлой истории разработки, и даже фанатские патчи, с которыми я играл, не исправляют эту ситуацию до конца (да-да, фанаты не в состоянии сделать игре новую концовку, а она здесь такая, что mass effect 3 держит пиво где-то в стороне).Крайне неровная игра, местами хочется в восторге кричать 10 ИЗ 10, местами хочется её просто удалить и больше никогда не возвращаться. Так получилось из-за тяжёлой истории разработки, и даже фанатские патчи, с которыми я играл, не исправляют эту ситуацию до конца (да-да, фанаты не в состоянии сделать игре новую концовку, а она здесь такая, что mass effect 3 держит пиво где-то в стороне).

    Что есть хорошего в игре: Во-первых, шикарнейшие диалоги и отличный сюжет, пожалуй, самый мрачный и взрослый во вселенной Star wars, во-вторых, отличная проработка НЕКОТОРЫХ (НЕ ВСЕХ) персонажей, например, Крея, реализованная выше всяких похвал, в-третьих, серая мораль, котор 2 - одна из немногих игр, в которой это реализовано на должном уровне, да так, что в разные моменты игры, ты то любишь, то ненавидишь, главного героя, Крею, джедаев, ситхов и тд, прекрасная реализация, и это в такой-то сказочной вселенной.

    Что плохо: Коридорность и линейность, практически всё время вне диалогов у меня было ощущение, что я играю в какую-нибудь адвенчуру, только по правилам D'n'd, очень часто игра просто закрывает игрока в узком пространстве и заставляет отбиваться от орд врагов, не оставляя ни сюжетной, ни геймплейной вариативности, какие навыки вы можете качать в этой игре кроме боевых? Хакинг, взлом, скрытность, убеждение и тд, и количество скилчеков этих навыков будет чрезвычайно мало для такой, казалось бы, культовой RPG. Также мне не понравилось огромное количество игровых сессий за сопартийцев в одиночку, эти сессии очень трудны, учитывая, что невозможно сбалансированно и одинаково хорошо прокачать всех членов команды, такие сесси превращались в пытку, особенно учитывая их длительность и количество в игре. Далее, зачем в игре Коррибан - эта локация откровенно бедна на контент и была не готова к релизу. Нар-Шаада, отсутствие вариативности, даже мнимой. И самое главное, концовка, она ужасна - это бесконечное повторение одинаковых помещений и сотни и сотни ситхов в каждом из них. Не хочется обвинять обсидиан в халтуре, зная в каких условиях доделывали игру, но не возмущаться такой концовкой нельзя, это уровень индусов-фрилансеров новичков, не более того.

    Сложно ставить такой неоднозначной игре оценку, уж слишком были разные эмоции по ходу прохождения, поэтому я просто оценил каждую планету по отдельности и вывел среднее арифмитическое, получилось:

    7 из 10.    … Expand
  26. Wiebe
    Feb 26, 2020
    8
    I love this game because it showed that star wars and RPGs can be more than just the simple bad guy good guy story. I hate the game for the rushed ending that left me unsatisfied.
  27. BlackWidow
    Feb 10, 2020
    9
    I've said it before, and I'll say it again, Chris Avellone is the best game writer and designer on the planet, period. Man's a genius. Now, KOTOR 1 was a great game, don't get me wrong, but KOTOR 2 is much better, especially the story. However, due to time retrains (something that happens a lot with games), KOTOR 2 was released before it was complete. if only Obsidian would have had moreI've said it before, and I'll say it again, Chris Avellone is the best game writer and designer on the planet, period. Man's a genius. Now, KOTOR 1 was a great game, don't get me wrong, but KOTOR 2 is much better, especially the story. However, due to time retrains (something that happens a lot with games), KOTOR 2 was released before it was complete. if only Obsidian would have had more time, the game would have been even better. There is a mod (TSLRCM) "The Sith Lords Restored Content Mod," which does add a lot of what Obsidian had planned, but not all. The ending(s) to the game are rather bland and leaves you feeling a bit confused and unsatisfied, but despite how great the rest the game is, it's tolerable. Any ways, it is a super great game and I thank everyone who played a part in making it for us. 9/10.… Expand
  28. Tapxd
    Jan 29, 2020
    10
    Despite the fact that most of the content was cut from final version of game. SW: KotOR II remains one of my favorite RPG, even then, in 2005, I passed three times, not less. 10/10
  29. FogCityRoller
    Jan 13, 2020
    4
    Anyone who rates this game a 10 is a brain-dead fanboy pure and simple. This game is a joke compared to KOTOR 1. It had two years of hardware and tech improvements to utilize and they somehow released a game that looks exactly the same as the original and made no improvements to it whatsoever aside from the crafting system.

    Uninspired sound design, absolutely buggy beyond belief,    Anyone who rates this game a 10 is a brain-dead fanboy pure and simple. This game is a joke compared to KOTOR 1. It had two years of hardware and tech improvements to utilize and they somehow released a game that looks exactly the same as the original and made no improvements to it whatsoever aside from the crafting system.

    Uninspired sound design, absolutely buggy beyond belief, nonsensical story with plot holes all over the place, absurdly rushed ending. If this game were released today it would be slaughtered by users and critics alike for being a reskin of the original with all the interesting elements suddenly gone. Crashes during cutscenes, horribly coded pathing, no improvements to combat whatsoever.

    You want to know how buggy this game is? There's a massive overhaul mod that fixes a large percentage of the original bugs and there are STILL bugs that they can't even fix. The QA department must have been nonexistent when they made this game and I worked in QA for a large developer during the years this game was in development. Completely inexcusable this was released in this state.

    This game is lauded for no reason other than a lot of people loved KOTOR and didn't mind playing the exact same thing all over again, even if it's objectively worse in so many areas. Nihilus, Sion and Traya are cool potential characters that were done a complete disservice by how rushed and sloppy this title is.    … Expand
  30. Solaris123
    Dec 24, 2019
    10
    Chris Avellone is God and King of RPG , story is mature and engaging ,and Kreia is the best companion and anti-companion ever made
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Awards & Rankings

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#19 Best PC Game of 2005
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#10 Most Discussed PC Game of 2005
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#10 Most Shared PC Game of 2005

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Metascore
85

Generally favorable reviews - based on 31 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 28 out of 31
  2. Mixed: 3 out of 31
  3. Negative: 0 out of 31
  1. GameSpy
    80
    As good as the storyline and basic gameplay are, there are more than a few issues that keep this game from reaching the bar set by the first KotOR. The first: bugs. There a lot of them; most are just annoying, but a few are deadly.
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  2. GameSpot
    85
    It's remarkable that the game's quest is every bit as big and complex as the original's. On the other hand, some unsightly technical issues and a general feeling of déjà vu will probably prevent you from feeling as strongly about The Sith Lords as you did or still do about the first game.
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  3. IGN
    87
    More importantly, all these mechanics -- the moral slider, the influence system, combat, etc. -- are surrounded by a first rate story that's almost as mythic and fantastic as the films themselves.
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