Zeitgeist
by The Smashing Pumpkins
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7.7

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  1. gruenjr
    May 23, 2011
    9
    A completely underrated album by the press and a lot of fans. "Zeitgeist" was THE perfect title for this album, atleast for this Pumpkins fan because I will remember that time, in part, for feeling plugged in with the band. It was an exciting year to listen to concert bootlegs, especially from their Paris reunion show, and it t all culminated with this album. "Doomsday," "7 Shades,"A completely underrated album by the press and a lot of fans. "Zeitgeist" was THE perfect title for this album, atleast for this Pumpkins fan because I will remember that time, in part, for feeling plugged in with the band. It was an exciting year to listen to concert bootlegs, especially from their Paris reunion show, and it t all culminated with this album. "Doomsday," "7 Shades," "United States," and "Neverlost" are all highlights.… Expand
  2. alexp
    Jul 9, 2007
    8
    Great effort. listen to the music not whatever concepts of billy or smashing pumpkins you have. you self righteous pricks.
  3. Elliott
    Jul 1, 2007
    8
    I love it!!!! It's not as good as Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie, but it's arguably the best thing they've done since 1995. Welcome back, Pumpkins!
  4. JorgeS
    Jul 19, 2007
    8
    One of the best albums of the year. Zeitgeist contains the best of the smashing pumpkins first era. Enjoyable & necessary for this bad times of music.
  5. CruellaDeVille
    Jul 11, 2007
    8
    I only bought this record because the Pumpkins were one of my favorite bands of the 90s. I expected it to be bad, but I have been pleasantly surprised. It is definitely worth buying.
  6. mullethead
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    Billy Corgan like all smart musicians understands his strengths and plays to them. The same clash of gloomy and uplifting, of heavy guitars and melodic vocals that made The Smashing Pumpkins take off in the first place is still evident here and it still sounds good
  7. AlexB
    Jul 3, 2007
    8
    Mixed emotions. Rocking but not as good as past efforts. The songs don't quite stay in your mind... Talent and effort is there though... Albeit too much.
  8. NicholasC
    Jul 8, 2007
    8
    Critics are way too harsh. Nice return to form in my opinion.
  9. MaxM.
    Oct 29, 2007
    8
    I'm a very poor fan of heavy metal, but this is actually a very good album. I really enjoyed the guitar. It's a bit of a change from Smashing Pumpkins previous work.
  10. GaryC
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    What's with the production...I can't get over how strange the mix is...the over layerd vocals sound wierd in some places and Billy's voice lacks the shrill bite that I'm used to. Again, in comparison to what else is out there...this album beats the crap out of it. All the new rockers could take a lesson from this stuff, but for S.Pumpkins status it's just okay. What's with the production...I can't get over how strange the mix is...the over layerd vocals sound wierd in some places and Billy's voice lacks the shrill bite that I'm used to. Again, in comparison to what else is out there...this album beats the crap out of it. All the new rockers could take a lesson from this stuff, but for S.Pumpkins status it's just okay. Well, it's really good, very creative, strong melodies...but the punch isn't all quite there. There are moments when the music sounds intensely beautiful, or intensely dark...but the moments are far between. At least the Pumpkins have turned from the mainstream mush they seemed destined for with they're last two albums. Maybe the new lineup is a benefit in that sense...in all I'm impressed that the two remaining members can still push the band to these levels. A little more TLC on these songs might have been welcome.… Expand
  11. AdamE
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    It is unfortunate that critics have almost uniformly decided to measure this album against the highest achievements of the band. When assessed independently of the Pumpkins oeuvre, Zeitgeist proves to be a forceful and fun contribution to rock music. If any other band put out this record, it would be on all the critical year-end lists that matter.
  12. JeffO
    Jul 23, 2007
    8
    I had to listen several times before the hooks caught on and the feeling sunk in. On my first listen I wasnt sure... After a few more listens, my opinion changed dramatically. While this album does contain 2 of the worst songs billy may ever write, it also contains some of the most infectious songs of the year. Worth every penny for Tarantula, Doomsday, Neverlost, Thats the way, and Bring I had to listen several times before the hooks caught on and the feeling sunk in. On my first listen I wasnt sure... After a few more listens, my opinion changed dramatically. While this album does contain 2 of the worst songs billy may ever write, it also contains some of the most infectious songs of the year. Worth every penny for Tarantula, Doomsday, Neverlost, Thats the way, and Bring the Light. However, DO NOT give pomp and Circumstance or United States a 2nd chance they sound aweful every time. WELCOME BACK BILLY AND JIMMY!!!! I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!… Expand
  13. AlphaA
    Jul 8, 2007
    8
    If they were an indie band, critics would have slapped 9's all over. Music critics nowadays are stupid.
  14. jayp
    Jul 8, 2007
    8
    Lets face it. its no S/D or Mellon/c. But serious what will ever be as great as those albums ever. I give it an 8 just because i'm glad they stuck with that they do best.. Rock and Roll. and for all you people that don't like For god and country, i dont know whats wrong with you, its a great song. sometimes you listen to something, you don't like but then after awhile it Lets face it. its no S/D or Mellon/c. But serious what will ever be as great as those albums ever. I give it an 8 just because i'm glad they stuck with that they do best.. Rock and Roll. and for all you people that don't like For god and country, i dont know whats wrong with you, its a great song. sometimes you listen to something, you don't like but then after awhile it grows on you. I think all the songs are tight. i'm not really diggin the last song thou But 4 all you people you should really check out (death from above) its the bonus track. they should of placed that 4 the end song.. Cheers people.… Expand
  15. AaronB
    Aug 1, 2007
    8
    After 7 years Billy Corgan seems to have forgot the formula to making a great music but his lyrics still rock!
  16. BrianP.
    Oct 11, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist has a hypnotic spinning to it that drives me to keep listening for things I might of not caught the first time. It's hard work and hard sound should be considered for bringing Alternative Music back into the late 2000's. It's still the Pumpkins because they are influencing and rule breaking the current lull of cheep money making pop sound today. . .
  17. MattD.
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    This is their best CD since Mellon Collie. It's a no take prisoners, aggressive CD. I see it as a perfection of the metallic edge that they showed before. Only problem is, sometimes the fuzz goes on for too long without a change. There are some little quirks to be found, though, like the blues rhythm in "For God And Country."
  18. AndyC
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    Impossible to judge a pumpkins album without listening to it for about 5 years. They all come good in the end. Having said that I've listened through about 3 times and it's still brill.
  19. johnm
    Jul 17, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist certainly offers a different kind of sound from older Pumpkins music. Nevertheless, Corgan and Chanberlain are quite successful in this new style of music. The more I hear the songs on this album, the more I like it. It's no Melancholy, but the album still rocks.
  20. CodyL
    Jul 3, 2007
    8
    Awesome album! Triumphant return of a genre forming band. It's definitely new ground for them. It might be their most accessible album to date, of course having it's ups and downs. No tracks here hold a candlelight to those on Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie, but who needs to compare??
  21. PeterB
    Jul 6, 2007
    8
    While it's not as good as either Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie it's certainly a good album. I don't get all this bullshit about it having no soul and that Corgan is only in it for the money - Wow he's gotta be the first musician ever!... Also the people who complain about Iha and D'arcy missing. What is that about? This was always Corgan's band. Anyway most While it's not as good as either Siamese Dream or Mellon Collie it's certainly a good album. I don't get all this bullshit about it having no soul and that Corgan is only in it for the money - Wow he's gotta be the first musician ever!... Also the people who complain about Iha and D'arcy missing. What is that about? This was always Corgan's band. Anyway most of songs are great and they seem new and fresh and are totally Pumpkins at the same time. The only track I didn't really take to was United States but the rest are great, especially "That's The Way", "Starz", "Tarantula" and "Come On". A great comeback!… Expand
  22. JonathanM.
    Dec 3, 2008
    8
    As good as this album is (by the way, the mixing is shocking), it might be good album, but remember this is the Smashing Pumpkins, not a dingle dangle dongle lets see how this goes album. The expectations of this album were naturally high.........I guess thats for some. The problem is, yes there is not James or Darcy. Well that is the problem. Of course Billy Corgan writes all the songs As good as this album is (by the way, the mixing is shocking), it might be good album, but remember this is the Smashing Pumpkins, not a dingle dangle dongle lets see how this goes album. The expectations of this album were naturally high.........I guess thats for some. The problem is, yes there is not James or Darcy. Well that is the problem. Of course Billy Corgan writes all the songs and records all the parts!! But he's not that guy from Nine Inch Nails (Trent Reznor) he still needs a band! James Iha contributed alot to the band and its noticable, no matter what the whinging pretentious Billy Corgan might say (and thats coming from a "fan" who understands him) Anyway.......better luck next time, its alright for a listen but after that.… Expand
  23. CorganR.
    Feb 15, 2008
    8
    This album is GREAT, however it still doesn't match up to some of their older albums such as Melloncollie. It's wonderful to see that the Smashing Pumpkins are back however I do wish the whole band came back instead of just Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin. Corgan's guitar playing was great in this album. From the creepy sounds of Turantula to the old school metal style in This album is GREAT, however it still doesn't match up to some of their older albums such as Melloncollie. It's wonderful to see that the Smashing Pumpkins are back however I do wish the whole band came back instead of just Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin. Corgan's guitar playing was great in this album. From the creepy sounds of Turantula to the old school metal style in Doomsday clock, he really astounded me with his playing. Also Jimmy Chamberlin was amazing on drums in songs such as United States. Basically, this was a really, really good comeback for the Pumpkins and hopefully we will see much more of them in the future!… Expand
  24. RoyO
    Apr 23, 2008
    8
    It's good, not mellon collie or siamese dream good but still.
  25. Abe
    Jan 12, 2009
    8
    A Really Good Comeback!
  26. sdjones
    Oct 13, 2007
    8
    I guess critics are tired of grunge, post-grunge and probably Billy Corgan. I have to admit I was pretty tired of his raspy croak myself. However, Zietgiest rocks and it rocks hard. I was pleasantly impressed by how solid this is!
  27. Arthur
    Jul 12, 2007
    8
    Don't believe the critics! Zeitgeist is a great album. Don't get me wrong, I'm not just some biased Billy Corgan/Pumpkins fan; I hated his solo album and thought Zwan was a real disappointment.
  28. spfission
    Jul 13, 2007
    8
    Billy once again proves that he does not need to live off his past hits. He continues to evolve as an artist which is very rare in this day. Zeitgeist will prove to be a classic. Solid Album.
  29. EricR.
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    Better than any album I've hear in a long time. Compared to their previous recordings I would say not as good as Gish, SD, or Mellon Collie, but better than Adore or Machina.
  30. IL
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    The Pumpkins are right back where they started with Gish, discovering (or rediscovering, as the case is with Zeitgeist) what sound they are trying to create etc. If this turns out to be true, the next Pumpkin album will be great. But maybe I'm just too optimistic ;-)
  31. MattD
    Jul 27, 2007
    8
    If you listen to Zeitgeist as a collection of songs, and ignore the lineup changes, expectations, etc that seem to be at the forefront of discussion regarding the album, it's a good cd. There are a few songs that are grating and pretentious but overall the music is rich, aggressive, and unique.
  32. steveb
    Aug 12, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist is a great rock album, and Billy Corgan has updated the pumpkins sound. Billy doesnt need James Iha, since Billy wrote EVERYTHING anyways, and the songs Iha did write(except for co writing mayonaise)sucked. Badly. I mean come on people! If you do not feel the same way, then you werent a pumpkin fan to begin with. This album is not going to win over people who didnt like the Zeitgeist is a great rock album, and Billy Corgan has updated the pumpkins sound. Billy doesnt need James Iha, since Billy wrote EVERYTHING anyways, and the songs Iha did write(except for co writing mayonaise)sucked. Badly. I mean come on people! If you do not feel the same way, then you werent a pumpkin fan to begin with. This album is not going to win over people who didnt like the pumpkins anyways, but In my opinion, the loud rock is what they did best. And dont forget that Billy wrote EVERYTHING that was good about the pumpkins. Also, even though no one really mentions it, Jimmy's drums are awesome on this record, probably his best performance on a pumpkins record. All you people who say it isnt like it was, stop living in the past! I mean, if the beatles wrote revolver 15 times it would have gotten boring! Their later stuff was way better anyways, but hey, Sgt. Peppers got bad reviews too!… Expand
  33. DerekD
    Aug 13, 2007
    8
    I love a lot of tracks on this album, it stays pretty true to the classic smashing pumpkins and with only a couple of bad tracks you can't really complain with this album.
  34. thisname
    Nov 11, 2010
    8
    Some songs are iffy but with the strength of the two powerful singles "Tarantula" and "That's The Way" followed by some great rock songs like "7 shades" and "Doomsday Clock", this album doesn't disappoint!
  35. Ricko
    May 15, 2012
    8
    The first post Smashing Pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins album. This got a very lukewarm reaction from both critics and fans but I think it's a really strong album. For me it's the 5th most enjoyable SP record but I would class the 4 I rate above it as some of the greatest rock albums of all time. Yes it's self-indulgent in parts and the production definitely leaves something to be desired.The first post Smashing Pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins album. This got a very lukewarm reaction from both critics and fans but I think it's a really strong album. For me it's the 5th most enjoyable SP record but I would class the 4 I rate above it as some of the greatest rock albums of all time. Yes it's self-indulgent in parts and the production definitely leaves something to be desired. There are a few ordinary (Neverlost and Pomp and Circumstances spring to mind immediately) tracks on here that fail to add any value to the album but when you get down to it, more than half of the songs on the record are excellent. The musicianmanship from Corgan and Chamberlain is outstanding. There are a couple of tracks that came out as after Zeitgeist but around the same time that could have replaced the weaker tracks and pushed this record up a notch. Will be interesting to see what it's follow up Oceania will be like due out this year. Especially without the drum sound of Jimmy Chamberlain.… Expand
  36. ja
    Jul 5, 2007
    7
    Boring, without soul, easy but noone sober expected more. Worst album of the band. Corgan totally lost it. Neverlost and tarantula save from disaster.
  37. MattS.
    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    I'm sick of people panning this album because they think Billy Corgan's a jerk. That has little if anything to do with the music. And if Billy Corgan is only interested in the money, then why oh why did he release an LP and 3 EPs for FREE in 2000 (Machina II) and why did he perform a tour where he donated almost all of the proceeds to charity? Ginger and Jeff are better I'm sick of people panning this album because they think Billy Corgan's a jerk. That has little if anything to do with the music. And if Billy Corgan is only interested in the money, then why oh why did he release an LP and 3 EPs for FREE in 2000 (Machina II) and why did he perform a tour where he donated almost all of the proceeds to charity? Ginger and Jeff are better instrumentalists than D'arcy and James, but it matters very little since Corgan almost never allows anyone but Jimmy and him to record tracks for albums (this goes back as far as Siamese Dream). Also, this records sounds nothing like Top 40 metal, emo, or hard rock, and the people who are claiming it does obviously haven't listened to the album at all, or are hoping they can make their mark on the world by trying to derail an album by bitching about it online. If you think this album is simple and trashy, try analyzing it with music theory and see for yourself that its not as simplistic as you may think. This is a good Pumpkins album, better than Machina and probably better than Adore to most part-time Pumpkins fans. Yes, the mixing has some bizarre choices, but the selection of songs is far from sub-par. Give this album an chance and check out the Pumpkins in concert (they put on a great show!).… Expand
  38. christianw
    Jul 19, 2007
    7
    This album is better than Machina and Adore but not as good as Gish, SD and MCATIS. The former two had that electro-clatter that stripped the music of soul and that wonderful organis cound they had. Fortunately the organic sound is back. CAN YOU GET YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT, WAYNE B???
  39. TryptophanAromatic
    Jul 2, 2007
    7
    Zeitgeist is a consistent and enjoyable record that nurses long-time fans of the band back into good health after a distinctively commercial marketing campaign involving big-budget hollywood epics (Michael Bay's Transformers) and exlusive deals with various supermarket franchises (recieving alternative versions of the album) appeared to offer a bleak vision of a 21st century Pumpkins Zeitgeist is a consistent and enjoyable record that nurses long-time fans of the band back into good health after a distinctively commercial marketing campaign involving big-budget hollywood epics (Michael Bay's Transformers) and exlusive deals with various supermarket franchises (recieving alternative versions of the album) appeared to offer a bleak vision of a 21st century Pumpkins - one minus the alternative spirit that made this band so dear to us all. Fortunately, the album delivers the trademark pumpkins sound without sounding rehashed. The sound is loud and aggressive, full of a politically charged bombast that (argueably) constitutes the most socially 'relevent' material corgan has participated in. Sonically, its simple: - Fans of Gish, SD (PI) & MCIS will be utterly satisfied, proclaiming the album the bands best since 1995. - Fans of Adore, Machina & Machina 2 will find the album enjoyable but ultimately lacking. Overall, Zeitgeist is a welcome return from a sorely missed band, assualting you sonically and delivering enjoyabel, consistent rock n roll that ultimately fails to take the band to new heights.… Expand
  40. GeorgeO.
    Jul 6, 2007
    7
    A very nice come back. I was surprised about the strenght of this album but compared with previous albuns its inferior so.. 7 is today my voting :)
  41. JMG
    Jul 8, 2007
    7
    Personally, I find it appalling that many critics (I've read more than just this selection) aren't talking about the music at all. They're going on and on about the band drama while SP has released a nice little album here. You know what? I hope this work is successful because these critics clearly aren't doing their jobs. Songs like "United States", "7 shades of Personally, I find it appalling that many critics (I've read more than just this selection) aren't talking about the music at all. They're going on and on about the band drama while SP has released a nice little album here. You know what? I hope this work is successful because these critics clearly aren't doing their jobs. Songs like "United States", "7 shades of black" "That's the way", 'Bring the Light" and "Tarantula" are really good songs and are worthy of the SP moniker. It sounds like them and I now realized how sorely I've missed their sound. Welcome back.… Expand
  42. scottw
    Aug 15, 2007
    7
    Fun, heavey, fast and very smashing. If your a fane of the old stuff, you are bound to injoy this album.
  43. NickK.
    Sep 8, 2007
    7
    I agree the vocal mixing (and clarity in general) is something of an issue here. Likewise, the lack of diversity which characterized Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream etc. does make this less rewarding listening (maybe I'm getting old, but my ears tired of the same sound/dynamics across the first 11 tracks). Essentially, it sounds to me like a couple of kids who have set up a drum kit and I agree the vocal mixing (and clarity in general) is something of an issue here. Likewise, the lack of diversity which characterized Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream etc. does make this less rewarding listening (maybe I'm getting old, but my ears tired of the same sound/dynamics across the first 11 tracks). Essentially, it sounds to me like a couple of kids who have set up a drum kit and a nasty guitar rig in their garage, and are having a ball rocking out themselves, perhaps at the expense of other listeners. The exception here, and the reason I gave it a 7, was that it's Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlain playing, two of the best rock musicians of the last 20 years, so it still makes impressive listening. It's clearly an album written by a guitarist and a drummer, but very talented ones, so it has its moments.… Expand
  44. f4b
    Feb 3, 2008
    7
    Maybe Corgan is no more trendy for the critics, but this is a nice return with some very high moments. If you doubt Pumpkins are still good, see them live they are awesome!
  45. Mike
    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    It is what it is. D'Arcy and James were fine, but the band was always Jimmy's jazz and Billy's metal. Lest not we remind the crying fans that Siamese Dream was recorded exactly the same way; Billy playing bass, guitars and vocals and Jimmy on drums. The album is solidly produced with some decent songs. Its the best effort since Mellon Collie. Don't take it for shame, It is what it is. D'Arcy and James were fine, but the band was always Jimmy's jazz and Billy's metal. Lest not we remind the crying fans that Siamese Dream was recorded exactly the same way; Billy playing bass, guitars and vocals and Jimmy on drums. The album is solidly produced with some decent songs. Its the best effort since Mellon Collie. Don't take it for shame, it is undeniable that the Pumpkins have changed, but it seems as though they took highlights from all their albums and put an agressively concise and impactful message out for the public. If you don't agree with the politics, fine- I know I don't. But take a look around, they may have a point.… Expand
  46. MorrisD.
    Jul 12, 2007
    7
    Not at par with Smashing Pumpkins material up to Adore but a good album in it's own right. Just not exceptional.
  47. laura
    Jul 16, 2007
    7
    Not their best ever album, but a solid work, and a promising return to music.
  48. NickE
    Jul 18, 2007
    7
    Surprisingly good. I'd say this is better than Adore and Machina, but worse than Mellon Collie or Siamese Dream. It's kind of a return to the style of their earlier albums: a mix of very heavy songs and soft ballad-y songs, and less preoccupied with writing poppy, catchy melodies. For me, the heavy songs really work, and the softer songs are duds. Nonetheless, I have to applaud Surprisingly good. I'd say this is better than Adore and Machina, but worse than Mellon Collie or Siamese Dream. It's kind of a return to the style of their earlier albums: a mix of very heavy songs and soft ballad-y songs, and less preoccupied with writing poppy, catchy melodies. For me, the heavy songs really work, and the softer songs are duds. Nonetheless, I have to applaud them for avoiding the temptation to make a safe, innocuous record. If you're a fan this is worth picking up.… Expand
  49. RyanM.
    Jul 4, 2007
    7
    It's an easily digestible album that has successfully brought the Pumpkins back to the mainstream; but the vocal mix is atrocious and there's a few very, very bad songs like Pomp and Circumstance.
  50. NickS
    Jul 5, 2007
    7
    This album is a fun listen, even if it is the weakest album to bear the name Smashing Pumpkins. Though the album flags near the end, at times it nearly reaches greatness in songs like "That's the Way" and "Bleeding the Orchid".
  51. JohnS.
    Jul 6, 2007
    7
    A solid album which is receiving some unfair slagging for the ridiculous 'track baiting' with three different bonus tracks showing up on three different retailers tracklisting (Best Buy, Circuit City and i-Tunes). It's nowhere near classic, but it's worth a listen or two.
  52. Nicholas)
    Jul 11, 2007
    7
    Not the pumpkins best, but far from their worst (Machina is a horrible album). A worthy comeback.
  53. RazzaA
    Jul 18, 2007
    7
    I think this album gets rather harsh criticism. First off, all the talk about the smashing pumpkins name and whether this album is a smashing pumpkins album or not is irrelevant, It is billy corgan who is making the music so it doesnt matter what you call it still the same guy making the music. And whether he puts out 3,4 or six different versions who cares? Ofcourse he wants to earn a I think this album gets rather harsh criticism. First off, all the talk about the smashing pumpkins name and whether this album is a smashing pumpkins album or not is irrelevant, It is billy corgan who is making the music so it doesnt matter what you call it still the same guy making the music. And whether he puts out 3,4 or six different versions who cares? Ofcourse he wants to earn a lot of money, who wouldn't. The second you put in the cd you recognize it as pumpkins music, the mixing is ok. Billy never could sing and he still can't. If you don't like his voice, why listen to smashing pumpkins? His tunefulness with his voice is still there. All in all, the music is ok, especially for pumpkins fans. I think it would have been wiser to put the 3 bonus tracks on the cd as well cause these are actually 3 of the strongest songs he wrote up recently. That's my only critic: why didnt they put out the 15 songs on all versions? Now there is little variation in the songs: they all rock, but i really miss the nice, more peaceful slower songs.....this gets a 7, the 15 tracks are an eight. It is alot better than other recent stuff. Enjoy and otherwise just chill and live on, its just a CD........... Try it and en… Expand
  54. qwertyuiopm
    Aug 17, 2007
    7
    i would have liked it better if they didnt mix it like a high school musical cd. i appreciate every part of a song and it would be nice i i could hear it all as well. on another note, the lyrics are good, and most of the songs are well structured.
  55. Vampire25
    Dec 30, 2010
    7
    Definitely not the best thing The Smashing Pumpkins have done. But Zeitgeist is sort of enjoyable. I've been a Smashing Pumpkins fan since forever. They are one of my favorite bands of all time. And Zeitgeist is a good album, but I do have a couple complaints about it. One, Billy Corgan's lyrics have always been nothing short of amazing. Especially in the album Adore. But this album, hisDefinitely not the best thing The Smashing Pumpkins have done. But Zeitgeist is sort of enjoyable. I've been a Smashing Pumpkins fan since forever. They are one of my favorite bands of all time. And Zeitgeist is a good album, but I do have a couple complaints about it. One, Billy Corgan's lyrics have always been nothing short of amazing. Especially in the album Adore. But this album, his lyrics are kind of stupid, I must admit. It sounds like he ran out of ideas so he just put something that rhymed. And two, some songs are just unnecessary. "Bleeding The Orchid", "Starz" and "For God And Country". Those tracks are just plain retarded. And maybe a couple more. But other than that, This is a rock and roll album that goes back to their early work. It sounds like a metal album. It is The Smashing Pumpkins heaviest album. Some great tracks are "United States" (best on the album), "Doomsday Clock" and "That's The Way (My Love Is)". All In All, Not Smashing Pumpkins greatest work by far, but still a worthy entry in their discography. B… Expand
  56. 7dogguy
    Apr 13, 2012
    7
    this is the worst thing besides tear garden by them the band isnt even all together anymore the band members from back then put the soul of the smashing pumpkins into the smashing pumpkins this album is good however about 60% of the songs are either good or listenable this album is also heavier then most of there stuff its a good album but its lacking feeling that the old albums were about
  57. Chris
    Jul 3, 2007
    6
    It's alright if a bit disappointing. I don't hear much emotion or interesting and experimental music like I've come to expect from Corgan, and I feel this album was basically built to be as catchy as possible to win over a lot of new fans. I don't think this matches up to their earlier works at all...even Machina which gets way too much flack is better than this. But It's alright if a bit disappointing. I don't hear much emotion or interesting and experimental music like I've come to expect from Corgan, and I feel this album was basically built to be as catchy as possible to win over a lot of new fans. I don't think this matches up to their earlier works at all...even Machina which gets way too much flack is better than this. But all in all, I don't hate this album. I've just come to expect more from my favourite songwriter. The production and especially the multitude of vocal harmonies are huge minuses here. Please refrain from overcooking the next album Mr. Corgan.… Expand
  58. ElT
    Aug 2, 2007
    6
    It's got good and crap stuff in almost equal measure, and it's disappointing given the SP legacy. Brendan D: nobody cares what you think
  59. CP
    Aug 9, 2007
    6
    I don't care who wrote the album, played the parts and the politics surrounding it. Based on the music itself, I find it a satisfying album. If the heavier songs are "modern rock", it's far better than the current understudies are producing. A point deduction for Billy feeling the need to tell me he's found Jesus again in no less than two songs. Don't care. Otherwise, I don't care who wrote the album, played the parts and the politics surrounding it. Based on the music itself, I find it a satisfying album. If the heavier songs are "modern rock", it's far better than the current understudies are producing. A point deduction for Billy feeling the need to tell me he's found Jesus again in no less than two songs. Don't care. Otherwise, decent album with the second half of United States standing out especially.… Expand
  60. BoL.
    Jul 9, 2007
    6
    First, let's remember that 6 is better than average. I think the first thing that struck me was that after several listens I was still having problems telling the songs apart. "Bleeding the Orchid" is excellent. "United States" is a bloated mess that doesn't go anywhere. I see a lot of comments elsewhere that hail "United States" as ambitious and far reaching, but I can't First, let's remember that 6 is better than average. I think the first thing that struck me was that after several listens I was still having problems telling the songs apart. "Bleeding the Orchid" is excellent. "United States" is a bloated mess that doesn't go anywhere. I see a lot of comments elsewhere that hail "United States" as ambitious and far reaching, but I can't see that. I am a fan of long epic songs and this has none of that grandious. It just goes on and on and on. "Taranlula" is fantastic, but it is nearly the only song on the album (with the exception of "Bleeding the Orchid") That has any dynamic to the song writing. People will trash "Pomp and Circumstance" but I think it is pretty ambitous, if not a bit dated sounded (Peter Gabriel anyone?). The Pumpkins have never really sounded the same twice and this is really no exection, but it seems they forgot that in addition to writing face melting riffs they also have some beauty to offer the world.… Expand
  61. JuanR.
    Jul 9, 2007
    6
    Corgan's attempt to find the Smashing Pumpkins of old is lost somewhere between his greedy wallet and his "new and improved" lineup.
  62. MikeD.
    Jul 9, 2007
    6
    Something is missing. I don't care for the production and the songs are mediocre when compared to Corgan's past work. Sounds a bit rushed, lacks a center, and is missing some of the magic and unique charm that made ALL past Pumpkin albums memorable.
  63. NeilS
    Jul 12, 2007
    6
    I'm hopeful that this is is the working the kinks out of a new lineup and the next record will take the music further. So far the only two tracks that really stands out to me are That's the Way (My Love Is), Starz, and United States. Overall this record is not as varied as I would be used to from a Pumpkins output. Corgan's talented enough that he can incorporate piano, I'm hopeful that this is is the working the kinks out of a new lineup and the next record will take the music further. So far the only two tracks that really stands out to me are That's the Way (My Love Is), Starz, and United States. Overall this record is not as varied as I would be used to from a Pumpkins output. Corgan's talented enough that he can incorporate piano, acoustic, electric, etc. and it seems I'm only hearing one. I'm yet to determine if this continues the trend of more mature themes that Zwan and his solo album pushed. In short I'm enjoying new pumpkins, but I'm waiting for album 2.… Expand
  64. LucasR.
    Jul 11, 2007
    5
    I have been a pumpkins lover (Billy Corgan fan) since I was 13. I am now 26. I bought all the albums, flew from California to Chicago for their last show at United Center. Stood 8 hours at Tower records like the other crazies just to shake the guys hand and tell him that I loved his music. I bought Zwan's Mary of the whatever.... and went to their show. I even went drove to Hollywood I have been a pumpkins lover (Billy Corgan fan) since I was 13. I am now 26. I bought all the albums, flew from California to Chicago for their last show at United Center. Stood 8 hours at Tower records like the other crazies just to shake the guys hand and tell him that I loved his music. I bought Zwan's Mary of the whatever.... and went to their show. I even went drove to Hollywood to get his poetry book signed. Saw his "solo" act, although I relented to buy the album. I did buy Zeitgeist, and I have listened to it all the way through..and all I can say is I'm done, and here is why. Moment of Truth: I have been lying to myself about my undying love for this guys music/talent. Not only has my love for anything this guy (Corgan) does diminished. I can honestly say I can't stand it anymore. When I heard of this reunion I was excited...but as soon as I realized it was not without the other members...I lost all hope in it. Billy Corgan is living up to his own idea of who he should be. However, he has let the press/media dictate and influence everything he has done after Adore...suprisingly that was his last great effort. Machina II should have been the album he released after Adore...but no! We got Zwan and whatever was supposed to come after that. ( to his credit "for your love" was one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard-NOT ON THE ALBUM THOUGH IS IT?) Corgan punishes himself with what he thinks others should think about him and whatever legacy he will leave behind, he wants to write his own history, and as much as he says he could really give a fuck what people say, guess what Corgan!? You do give a fuck. Unfortunately I don't anymore. Cheers P.s. Darcy and James (you are loved wherever you are) I'm gonna go listen to Volta now....… Expand
  65. Pumpkinsboy
    Jul 10, 2007
    5
    As a huge Pumpkins fan, I can't say I was overly hopeful for this album, based on Corgan's solo output and the debacle that was Zwan. However, I was pleasantly surprised by `Doomsday Clock`, which launches the album with a crunching riff and catchy chorus. I also found myself nodding away to `7 Shades of Black` and the crisp guitars of `Bleeding the Orchid` were evocative of the As a huge Pumpkins fan, I can't say I was overly hopeful for this album, based on Corgan's solo output and the debacle that was Zwan. However, I was pleasantly surprised by `Doomsday Clock`, which launches the album with a crunching riff and catchy chorus. I also found myself nodding away to `7 Shades of Black` and the crisp guitars of `Bleeding the Orchid` were evocative of the Siamese Dream era. A fantastic opening threesome. However, as I listened further, I had a sinking feeling...the spectre of Zwan loomed large in most of the tracks, which are too poppy, and when an attempt is made to reconnect with the classic Pumpkins sound, we get a meandering dirge called `United States` which is possibly the most boring song the Pumpkins have ever recorded. The album is roughly on the same level as `Machina`, although without a song as rocking as `Everlasting Gaze` or beautiful as `Stand Inside Your Love`, you would probably have to say it's weaker, and, as such, is the worst album the Pumpkins have yet recorded.… Expand
  66. Antongiu
    Jul 12, 2007
    5
    I was a huge SP fan, I still listen at the old records and I think I will stick with them as Zeitgeist is pretty average. The SP's soul is definitively missing, it's like B. Corgan took some singing lessons or maybe he is finally happy, but i still wonder where all that beautiful, powerful, depressed and epic songs are gone . I reckon their last record (and masterpiece) is I was a huge SP fan, I still listen at the old records and I think I will stick with them as Zeitgeist is pretty average. The SP's soul is definitively missing, it's like B. Corgan took some singing lessons or maybe he is finally happy, but i still wonder where all that beautiful, powerful, depressed and epic songs are gone . I reckon their last record (and masterpiece) is Mellon Collie, they should have retired since then. This is just an attempt to copy themselves, some bits are quite catchy though, but the overall is letting me down (although they are waaay better than some overhyped new alt rock bands). I'm definitely missing the 90's and the grunge!… Expand
  67. jeffrey
    Jul 21, 2007
    5
    I made the large mistake of wanting to love this album and should have known if will never reach the pinacle of before. I feel like billy is caught in between trying to please himself and his fans of old. This in turn produces what has turned out to be a very medieocre record that has a distinct heavier side to it, but nothing new and inspiring that you would expect from billy like he I made the large mistake of wanting to love this album and should have known if will never reach the pinacle of before. I feel like billy is caught in between trying to please himself and his fans of old. This in turn produces what has turned out to be a very medieocre record that has a distinct heavier side to it, but nothing new and inspiring that you would expect from billy like he gave us in machina and ava adore....not to mention his solo album (which I quite liked) 3 of the 5 points go towards that hot new bassist....damn!… Expand
  68. NM.
    Jul 4, 2007
    5
    How anyone (whether they be a Pumpkins addict or a passing fan) can rate this album as a 9 or 10 out-of-10 is beyond me. Even 8 seems far too generous but I suppose this band just has that type of fan. This is a bland and disappointing LP. There are some flashes of brilliance, but on the whole the album is astonishingly bad. Although I have listened via compressed means, the vocal How anyone (whether they be a Pumpkins addict or a passing fan) can rate this album as a 9 or 10 out-of-10 is beyond me. Even 8 seems far too generous but I suppose this band just has that type of fan. This is a bland and disappointing LP. There are some flashes of brilliance, but on the whole the album is astonishingly bad. Although I have listened via compressed means, the vocal recordings are lack-lustre and the production could have been stepped-up a notch or two. Won't bore you with a break-down of songs, but the fact that BC thought that 'Pomp and Circumstance' was good enough for release is amazing. Pretentiousness is back.… Expand
  69. MichaelS.
    Jul 4, 2007
    5
    Poor production and some bland tracks. Disappointing.
  70. JamesN
    Jul 6, 2007
    5
    It no doubt has it moments, but let's be honest here folks, if this were a Zwan album or a Corgan solo effort fans alike would be saying wtf? A Smashing Pumpkins logo does not automatically create a great album. It's simply mascarades what this release truly is, a mediocre effort.
  71. AndrewM
    Jul 9, 2007
    5
    It's not very good. The songs are empty and passionless, and don't retain any of the magic of the older material. It's all a blistering attack lacking the softness to contrast it. Corgan used to be able to blend both of these elements seemlessly in one song, but seems unable now. And on the half-assed attempts at softness, they're cold and icy a la TheFutureEmbrace. It's not very good. The songs are empty and passionless, and don't retain any of the magic of the older material. It's all a blistering attack lacking the softness to contrast it. Corgan used to be able to blend both of these elements seemlessly in one song, but seems unable now. And on the half-assed attempts at softness, they're cold and icy a la TheFutureEmbrace. It's a mashup of Machina, Zwan, and his solo album, and in this instance, no one wins. It does show promise, though, and leads me to believe that the next album is going to be something special.… Expand
  72. Arin
    Aug 24, 2007
    5
    Honestly, this album would be a terrific freshman release. Feels deflated and humdrum, compared to the songwriting brilliance and dynamic brilliance of Dream and even Melloncollie... Very much feels like SP, but without the 'fist in the air' 'careening off the road' adolescence that made the older stuff so much better. It's just ok.
  73. nickc.
    Jul 15, 2007
    5
    As a long time pumpkins fan, 13 years to be precise, I had mixed feelings about a new album. My suspicions were confirmed when i heard "Tarantula" online, featuring Billy's blaring voice completely overshadowing the music. And after hearing the whole album, that is certainly its biggest flaw--production and mixing. Its mixed like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and Green Day. In As a long time pumpkins fan, 13 years to be precise, I had mixed feelings about a new album. My suspicions were confirmed when i heard "Tarantula" online, featuring Billy's blaring voice completely overshadowing the music. And after hearing the whole album, that is certainly its biggest flaw--production and mixing. Its mixed like Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance and Green Day. In other words, it sounds like shit--stream-lined and radio-friendly. Corgans vocals, once sublty complimenting the music, are ridiculously too loud, detracting from the music itself. Producers Terry Date and Roy Thomas Baker are inevitably overshadowed by Corgan, who co-produced the album, and is probably responsible itr's crappish sound. The long and short of it this: it rocks more than Machina, but the song-writing is not as good. The first six songs on Zeitgeist are actually pretty awesome, but it's all down hill from there (with the exception of the beautiful, minimalistic "Neverlost"). "Pomp and Circumstance" is probably the worst song Billy has ever written, the worst in the entire pumpkins catalogue. So my reccomendation is this: Listen to the first six tracks of the album and then stop! **Tracks 1-6: 7/10** **Tracks 7-12: (excluding "Neverlost") 2/10**… Expand
  74. WayneB.
    Jul 18, 2007
    5
    Bla, bla, bla! "This album is better than Adore or Machina." That is simply not true. If your favorite cut on gish was "I am one" and you hated "Rhinoceros;" if your favorite cut on on Siamese Dream was "Silverfuck" and you hated "Disarm" or "Mayonnaise;" or if you you always skipped over "Tonight Tonight" on Mellon Collie and went straight to "Zero" then maybe I could see why one might Bla, bla, bla! "This album is better than Adore or Machina." That is simply not true. If your favorite cut on gish was "I am one" and you hated "Rhinoceros;" if your favorite cut on on Siamese Dream was "Silverfuck" and you hated "Disarm" or "Mayonnaise;" or if you you always skipped over "Tonight Tonight" on Mellon Collie and went straight to "Zero" then maybe I could see why one might think that this album is better than Adore or Machina. Now I love "I am One" and "Zero" as much as anyone. But the genius and true beauty of the first three Pumpkin Albums was how they captured the full gamut of human emotions: Happy, sad, mellow, angry, and well melancholy. Look, Pumpkins were one of the only 90's alternative band to write several straight up love songs. Now we just have Billy singing his 'I'm not angry anymore' message of Zwan over music (and with a record cover) that makes expext the most aggressive album to date. It all seems a little bit contrived and a tad bit irrelevant (especially for an album named Zeitgeist). But I still give it a 5 because Billy is still my favorite song writer to come out of the last 20years and one can still hear traces of that genius here.… Expand
  75. MInh
    Jul 20, 2007
    5
    I've been a pumpkin fan since 1992 and I've grown weary of Corgan's attempt to be "great" again. This album sounds like Zero b-sides part 2 extended special edition except the mix is worse. What is up with the mix? The vocals are in your face double tracked to hell and the guitars/drums/bass are compressed afterthought. What happened Billy? Now go back and listen to Zwan I've been a pumpkin fan since 1992 and I've grown weary of Corgan's attempt to be "great" again. This album sounds like Zero b-sides part 2 extended special edition except the mix is worse. What is up with the mix? The vocals are in your face double tracked to hell and the guitars/drums/bass are compressed afterthought. What happened Billy? Now go back and listen to Zwan and ask yourself what sounds more like the "pumpkins".… Expand
  76. LuisC
    Jul 3, 2007
    5
    The album grabs you instantly with the first song. But it immidiately releases you when it's over. It's clear that Corgan has lost whatever great talent he had in the 90's. Tarantula is still the stand-out and United States is like the child of Silverf***. I hope that this album is a grower.
  77. PedroM
    Jan 26, 2008
    5
    An equal of good and unappealing stuff. It will NEVER be another Siamise and Mellon Collie but it has some good stuff. Just another case of mid-age rockers trying to find their "steam" after 7 long years of zip. A 50/50 album: Not their worst but not their best.
  78. spacecadet
    Jun 6, 2011
    5
    good enough album... doesnt reach the levels of smashing pumpkins... not even the same ball park... it sounds like a better zwan album... where is all the shoegazing? the loads of guitars? the sweet innocent lyrics? the whispering lulluby voice? or for that matter - the screeching voice (rat tat tat.... kaaaabooom!)
    this is not the smashing pumpkins... it's a good band.. but not as good as    good enough album... doesnt reach the levels of smashing pumpkins... not even the same ball park... it sounds like a better zwan album... where is all the shoegazing? the loads of guitars? the sweet innocent lyrics? the whispering lulluby voice? or for that matter - the screeching voice (rat tat tat.... kaaaabooom!)
    this is not the smashing pumpkins... it's a good band.. but not as good as the smashing pumpkins.
    after all that is said... i like it.. it's nice.. but ill take any other smashing album any time    … Expand
  79. NickG.
    Jul 7, 2007
    4
    I really wanted this to work and I understand all Pumpkins fans wanting this badly, but the overly positive comments about this album really bemuse me. Although there are a few good tunes this is not a even a Pumpkins record & I think that it's a telling sign that many critics are not even talking about the music but the way this so called 're-union' happened and the I really wanted this to work and I understand all Pumpkins fans wanting this badly, but the overly positive comments about this album really bemuse me. Although there are a few good tunes this is not a even a Pumpkins record & I think that it's a telling sign that many critics are not even talking about the music but the way this so called 're-union' happened and the motives behind it. This record is simply not good enough to talk about, it is mediocre at best and embarrasing in parts.… Expand
  80. dmandman
    Jul 9, 2007
    4
    Kind of sucks. They don't seem to be having any fun. The sound, the songwriting, even the video confirm this. Funny, if songs like 'Tonight' and '1979' came out now they would probably still be big hits. Corgan used to write good songs and his guitar solos would support the song. Now the songs merely serve the solos. It comes off sounding self indulgent. Corgan Kind of sucks. They don't seem to be having any fun. The sound, the songwriting, even the video confirm this. Funny, if songs like 'Tonight' and '1979' came out now they would probably still be big hits. Corgan used to write good songs and his guitar solos would support the song. Now the songs merely serve the solos. It comes off sounding self indulgent. Corgan needs to get his sense of humor back before he drowns in his own ego.… Expand
  81. gabrield.
    Jul 12, 2007
    4
    This album sounds like it was recorded in the restroom or something.
  82. DG
    Jul 13, 2007
    4
    Good God. Seriously, if this is the best they can come up with, then they shouldn't bother. Not worthy of the Pumpkin name, and given some of the crap they put out at the end (MACHINA 1, I'm looking at you) that's saying something.
  83. pumpkinmate
    Nov 6, 2010
    4
    Zeitgeist is missing the emotion and originality of previous albums from the Smashing Pumpkins. Nothing feels new, its like a pre-packaged version of the band. And despite the title its the furtherest from the 'zeitgeist'/current attitudes that Billy Corgan has ever been. That being said, Smashing Pumpkins are a brilliant band usually and a Billy Corgan a defining songwriter of our generation
  84. KG
    Jul 10, 2007
    3
    Billy Corgan, do us all a favor and retire.
  85. FotisTsats
    Jul 3, 2007
    3
    The Album after the half part is disappointed... I wonder if this album is their worst one
  86. moonwaffle6
    Jul 8, 2007
    3
    who mixed this album? it sounds like corgan doing karaoke. oh yeah and it's boring. the sound of a desperate man-child lost adrift in a sea of his own delusions of grandeur.
  87. StimpyC.
    Jul 15, 2007
    3
    This album starts with promise with it great driving guitars and drums that the pumpkins do so well, but after a few tracks they all meld into one and become nothing more than small pop styled melodies. When I first heard Gish I could sit back and have songs flowing though my head afterwards. Same with Siamese Dream and then with Melancholy. But this has no great riffs, no hooks and no This album starts with promise with it great driving guitars and drums that the pumpkins do so well, but after a few tracks they all meld into one and become nothing more than small pop styled melodies. When I first heard Gish I could sit back and have songs flowing though my head afterwards. Same with Siamese Dream and then with Melancholy. But this has no great riffs, no hooks and no memorable moments. All I felt was that it was Billy back to his navel gazing self introspective ways. This isn't the Pumpkins, just a album with the Pumpkins name on it. He should have stuck with Zwan, they actually made good music.… Expand
  88. AnthonyC.
    Jul 15, 2007
    3
    The mix is awful. Corgan's vocals NEVER need to be pushed up to the front and the guitars sound muddy with zero definition in the distortion. On top of this, the songs all sound the same. Nothing even half as beautiful or well-written as Soma or Tonight, Tonight or Hummer. Nothing as powerful as Bodies. Nothing as interesting as Love or Silverfuck. It's just utter blandness in The mix is awful. Corgan's vocals NEVER need to be pushed up to the front and the guitars sound muddy with zero definition in the distortion. On top of this, the songs all sound the same. Nothing even half as beautiful or well-written as Soma or Tonight, Tonight or Hummer. Nothing as powerful as Bodies. Nothing as interesting as Love or Silverfuck. It's just utter blandness in the form of a paint-by-numbers commercial rock album. Incredibly disappointing but hardly unexpected.… Expand
  89. starpower
    Jul 2, 2007
    3
    lacking originality and overal substance that could have been....sounds more like a group of college kids got together and tried to make money with someone else's riffs.....as like about all popular music....very relatable to everything else herd on the radio....
  90. StickieP
    Jul 23, 2007
    3
    A total disappointment. It lacks the emotion and depth of the earlier SP albums and sounds tired and dated.
  91. Glen
    Jul 3, 2007
    3
    Sounds like a shitty metal album, cant wait to buy 4 different copies so Billy can pay his bills!!!
  92. KaitarnD.
    Aug 24, 2008
    3
    Chicago's totally changed when Billy and his companions recorded the triad Gish-Siamese-Mellon Collie. I'm one of the class A fan. But i cannot give this album more than a chance. No more charming lyrics, no surprising change of a chord, nothing but a rock LP without ideas. Solo album was at least admirable for courage. This is crap.
  93. NB
    Jul 12, 2007
    3
    hardly listenable. really sounds nothing like the Pumpkins. overproduced to a point that everything blends together without any definition to the instruments or vocals. overall bland and tasteless, like generic mac and cheese.
  94. CalR
    Feb 19, 2012
    3
    It's just never comes together. The music sounds great, thunderous and roaring which is everything The Smashing Pumpkins comeback album should have been, but overproduction, juvenile lyrics and poor vocals cannot tie this together in the way it should. The second half of the album is easily the worst music the band has ever put out, with only 'Bleeding The Orchid' and '7 Shades of Black'It's just never comes together. The music sounds great, thunderous and roaring which is everything The Smashing Pumpkins comeback album should have been, but overproduction, juvenile lyrics and poor vocals cannot tie this together in the way it should. The second half of the album is easily the worst music the band has ever put out, with only 'Bleeding The Orchid' and '7 Shades of Black' retaining any of the latter Pumpkins talent. The rest sounds like another band trying to cover 'Gish' outtakes.… Expand
  95. PablitoClavoUnClavito
    Jul 4, 2007
    2
    So Buring, Without Soul and you just want to bury that noisy sounds, and play again Siamese Dream or Adore
  96. KevinH.
    Jul 11, 2007
    2
    I know The Smashing Pumpkins, and this isn't it. I am a huge Pumpkins fan, and even I realize Corgan has his head too far up his ass to notice anything. He produced most of the tracks, so of course his voice is double and triple tracked and at the front of the mix. I can barely hear the drums, or any of the other instruments for that matter. His voice has gotten progressively I know The Smashing Pumpkins, and this isn't it. I am a huge Pumpkins fan, and even I realize Corgan has his head too far up his ass to notice anything. He produced most of the tracks, so of course his voice is double and triple tracked and at the front of the mix. I can barely hear the drums, or any of the other instruments for that matter. His voice has gotten progressively downhill since Machina, bad on ZWAN, and terrible on The Future Embrace. Let's not even talk about his poor vocal performance on this one. Stay away from this album, it's not the Pumpkins you and I know and love.… Expand
  97. GregL
    Aug 2, 2007
    2
    What happened to the Smashing Pumpkins? This is one of the worst cds I have ever heard. Gish and Siamese Dream were raw, innovative, spine tingling. They were albums that helped shape my mind in times of some bad relationships, and my lost 20 something, gen x punk mentality, while growing into manhood. Corgan was really trying in the 90s. Heart and soul, with everything he had. He was out What happened to the Smashing Pumpkins? This is one of the worst cds I have ever heard. Gish and Siamese Dream were raw, innovative, spine tingling. They were albums that helped shape my mind in times of some bad relationships, and my lost 20 something, gen x punk mentality, while growing into manhood. Corgan was really trying in the 90s. Heart and soul, with everything he had. He was out to prove how good he could be, and he succeeded 3 fold. Not this time. He doesn't even come out of the3 creative box. Zeitgesit is uncreative, nonexciting and dull, except forTarantulla. The guitar and drums sound great, except for sounding the same on every single song. Lost is the Corgan rule of mixing up the sound of each song to stiffle a listeners boredom. The worst part however is the vocals. Which is shocking to me. Billy Corgan's vocals have always been over the top in the diversity of notes and range of pitch that he is able to hit. Like a runaway freight train sliding over glass. He doesn't do it here at all. 2 tones and pitches max. Droning, boring vocals with lyrics that he must have had Michael Bolton write for him. Just lame. What a dissapointment. He should listen to his old stuff because oviously forgot what he can do.… Expand
  98. Dipleasedjerk
    Oct 17, 2007
    1
    Where is James and Darcy? Corgin needs these limiters to keep his direction focused. Overall, this album sounds like a pitiful attempt from Corgin to prove himself, when he has already done this. Instead, he listens to a "hard rock" producer and tries and fails and politic rock. If you have fallen in love with earlier SP and their inward music than don't go and drown yourself in this Where is James and Darcy? Corgin needs these limiters to keep his direction focused. Overall, this album sounds like a pitiful attempt from Corgin to prove himself, when he has already done this. Instead, he listens to a "hard rock" producer and tries and fails and politic rock. If you have fallen in love with earlier SP and their inward music than don't go and drown yourself in this disappointing buzz.… Expand
  99. SheldonR.
    Jul 12, 2007
    1
    Horrible effort. Can't describe the pain I felt in my heart from having to finish listening to this mess. Truly garbage.
  100. NateS
    Jul 5, 2007
    1
    WOW!!! The Smashing Pumpkins have returned to sound exactly the same as every other top 40 rock band. No originality, no subtle wit, and well..... This album is uglier than my toilet after eating 10 microwave burritos
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Mixed or average reviews - based on 29 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 9 out of 29
  2. Mixed: 16 out of 29
  3. Negative: 4 out of 29
  1. Amazon.com
    80
    Overall, Corgan's captivating effort to mine both the spirit of these turbulent times and the soul of his defining band is a smashing success.
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  2. Blender
    60
    Zeitgeist’s orgy of avalanche rhythms, cascading riffs and sky-licking guitar is as grandiose as ever (the solo on "Tarantula" sounds like a nuke hitting a Guitar Center), but the bombast is softened as Corgan reaches out for shame-sharing community.
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  3. New Musical Express (NME)
    50
    It's best treated as a curio in the Smashing Pumpkins' legacy; and for those who grew up on 'Today', '1979' and 'Ava Adore', you're better left with your memories.
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