Zeitgeist
by The Smashing Pumpkins
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7.7

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  1. bardelby
    Sep 7, 2023
    10
    The forgotten Smashing Pumpkins album. Sad it was taken off though. never got to listen to it
  2. Ricko
    May 15, 2012
    8
    The first post Smashing Pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins album. This got a very lukewarm reaction from both critics and fans but I think it's a really strong album. For me it's the 5th most enjoyable SP record but I would class the 4 I rate above it as some of the greatest rock albums of all time. Yes it's self-indulgent in parts and the production definitely leaves something to be desired.The first post Smashing Pumpkins, Smashing Pumpkins album. This got a very lukewarm reaction from both critics and fans but I think it's a really strong album. For me it's the 5th most enjoyable SP record but I would class the 4 I rate above it as some of the greatest rock albums of all time. Yes it's self-indulgent in parts and the production definitely leaves something to be desired. There are a few ordinary (Neverlost and Pomp and Circumstances spring to mind immediately) tracks on here that fail to add any value to the album but when you get down to it, more than half of the songs on the record are excellent. The musicianmanship from Corgan and Chamberlain is outstanding. There are a couple of tracks that came out as after Zeitgeist but around the same time that could have replaced the weaker tracks and pushed this record up a notch. Will be interesting to see what it's follow up Oceania will be like due out this year. Especially without the drum sound of Jimmy Chamberlain.… Expand
  3. 7dogguy
    Apr 13, 2012
    7
    this is the worst thing besides tear garden by them the band isnt even all together anymore the band members from back then put the soul of the smashing pumpkins into the smashing pumpkins this album is good however about 60% of the songs are either good or listenable this album is also heavier then most of there stuff its a good album but its lacking feeling that the old albums were about
  4. gruenjr
    May 23, 2011
    9
    A completely underrated album by the press and a lot of fans. "Zeitgeist" was THE perfect title for this album, atleast for this Pumpkins fan because I will remember that time, in part, for feeling plugged in with the band. It was an exciting year to listen to concert bootlegs, especially from their Paris reunion show, and it t all culminated with this album. "Doomsday," "7 Shades,"A completely underrated album by the press and a lot of fans. "Zeitgeist" was THE perfect title for this album, atleast for this Pumpkins fan because I will remember that time, in part, for feeling plugged in with the band. It was an exciting year to listen to concert bootlegs, especially from their Paris reunion show, and it t all culminated with this album. "Doomsday," "7 Shades," "United States," and "Neverlost" are all highlights.… Expand
  5. Vampire25
    Dec 30, 2010
    7
    Definitely not the best thing The Smashing Pumpkins have done. But Zeitgeist is sort of enjoyable. I've been a Smashing Pumpkins fan since forever. They are one of my favorite bands of all time. And Zeitgeist is a good album, but I do have a couple complaints about it. One, Billy Corgan's lyrics have always been nothing short of amazing. Especially in the album Adore. But this album, hisDefinitely not the best thing The Smashing Pumpkins have done. But Zeitgeist is sort of enjoyable. I've been a Smashing Pumpkins fan since forever. They are one of my favorite bands of all time. And Zeitgeist is a good album, but I do have a couple complaints about it. One, Billy Corgan's lyrics have always been nothing short of amazing. Especially in the album Adore. But this album, his lyrics are kind of stupid, I must admit. It sounds like he ran out of ideas so he just put something that rhymed. And two, some songs are just unnecessary. "Bleeding The Orchid", "Starz" and "For God And Country". Those tracks are just plain retarded. And maybe a couple more. But other than that, This is a rock and roll album that goes back to their early work. It sounds like a metal album. It is The Smashing Pumpkins heaviest album. Some great tracks are "United States" (best on the album), "Doomsday Clock" and "That's The Way (My Love Is)". All In All, Not Smashing Pumpkins greatest work by far, but still a worthy entry in their discography. B… Expand
  6. thisname
    Nov 11, 2010
    8
    Some songs are iffy but with the strength of the two powerful singles "Tarantula" and "That's The Way" followed by some great rock songs like "7 shades" and "Doomsday Clock", this album doesn't disappoint!
  7. Abe
    Jan 12, 2009
    8
    A Really Good Comeback!
  8. JonathanM.
    Dec 3, 2008
    8
    As good as this album is (by the way, the mixing is shocking), it might be good album, but remember this is the Smashing Pumpkins, not a dingle dangle dongle lets see how this goes album. The expectations of this album were naturally high.........I guess thats for some. The problem is, yes there is not James or Darcy. Well that is the problem. Of course Billy Corgan writes all the songs As good as this album is (by the way, the mixing is shocking), it might be good album, but remember this is the Smashing Pumpkins, not a dingle dangle dongle lets see how this goes album. The expectations of this album were naturally high.........I guess thats for some. The problem is, yes there is not James or Darcy. Well that is the problem. Of course Billy Corgan writes all the songs and records all the parts!! But he's not that guy from Nine Inch Nails (Trent Reznor) he still needs a band! James Iha contributed alot to the band and its noticable, no matter what the whinging pretentious Billy Corgan might say (and thats coming from a "fan" who understands him) Anyway.......better luck next time, its alright for a listen but after that.… Expand
  9. AmâmdioJ.
    Aug 29, 2008
    9
    This is a great album, I love smashing pumpkins and this has really great songs. Its god to see that Billy doesn't lost is talent. I recommend it.
  10. AntonioL.
    Apr 28, 2008
    10
    This album was amazing. It rocked as hard as anything they had ever done and was a great comeback. I love it!
  11. RoyO
    Apr 23, 2008
    8
    It's good, not mellon collie or siamese dream good but still.
  12. CorganR.
    Feb 15, 2008
    8
    This album is GREAT, however it still doesn't match up to some of their older albums such as Melloncollie. It's wonderful to see that the Smashing Pumpkins are back however I do wish the whole band came back instead of just Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin. Corgan's guitar playing was great in this album. From the creepy sounds of Turantula to the old school metal style in This album is GREAT, however it still doesn't match up to some of their older albums such as Melloncollie. It's wonderful to see that the Smashing Pumpkins are back however I do wish the whole band came back instead of just Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlin. Corgan's guitar playing was great in this album. From the creepy sounds of Turantula to the old school metal style in Doomsday clock, he really astounded me with his playing. Also Jimmy Chamberlin was amazing on drums in songs such as United States. Basically, this was a really, really good comeback for the Pumpkins and hopefully we will see much more of them in the future!… Expand
  13. f4b
    Feb 3, 2008
    7
    Maybe Corgan is no more trendy for the critics, but this is a nice return with some very high moments. If you doubt Pumpkins are still good, see them live they are awesome!
  14. SlavaP.
    Jan 31, 2008
    10
    F*ck the "good old days"... Billy and Jimmy are back - angry and vigorous... Come on... Lets go...!!!
  15. RobertC.
    Dec 15, 2007
    10
    A lot has changed since Billy, James, D'arcy, and Jimmy went their separate ways. But it is great to hear at least two of them back together in the present, playing live shows to bring back the good music of the 90's and early 2000's, but also bringing us something new and fresh to the present. This album was incredible and fresh for the Pumpkins. I can't wait for their next.
  16. MaxM.
    Oct 29, 2007
    8
    I'm a very poor fan of heavy metal, but this is actually a very good album. I really enjoyed the guitar. It's a bit of a change from Smashing Pumpkins previous work.
  17. sdjones
    Oct 13, 2007
    8
    I guess critics are tired of grunge, post-grunge and probably Billy Corgan. I have to admit I was pretty tired of his raspy croak myself. However, Zietgiest rocks and it rocks hard. I was pleasantly impressed by how solid this is!
  18. BrianP.
    Oct 11, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist has a hypnotic spinning to it that drives me to keep listening for things I might of not caught the first time. It's hard work and hard sound should be considered for bringing Alternative Music back into the late 2000's. It's still the Pumpkins because they are influencing and rule breaking the current lull of cheep money making pop sound today. . .
  19. GeoffW.
    Sep 29, 2007
    10
    Very solid and competent return from the Pumpkins.
  20. GeraldP.
    Sep 19, 2007
    10
    LOL this album came out in June and hasn't left my car since.. Its a great rock and roll CD. Best album from the pumpkins since adore.
  21. MarkW.
    Sep 18, 2007
    10
    Album of the year.
  22. NickK.
    Sep 8, 2007
    7
    I agree the vocal mixing (and clarity in general) is something of an issue here. Likewise, the lack of diversity which characterized Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream etc. does make this less rewarding listening (maybe I'm getting old, but my ears tired of the same sound/dynamics across the first 11 tracks). Essentially, it sounds to me like a couple of kids who have set up a drum kit and I agree the vocal mixing (and clarity in general) is something of an issue here. Likewise, the lack of diversity which characterized Mellon Collie, Siamese Dream etc. does make this less rewarding listening (maybe I'm getting old, but my ears tired of the same sound/dynamics across the first 11 tracks). Essentially, it sounds to me like a couple of kids who have set up a drum kit and a nasty guitar rig in their garage, and are having a ball rocking out themselves, perhaps at the expense of other listeners. The exception here, and the reason I gave it a 7, was that it's Billy Corgan and Jimmy Chamberlain playing, two of the best rock musicians of the last 20 years, so it still makes impressive listening. It's clearly an album written by a guitarist and a drummer, but very talented ones, so it has its moments.… Expand
  23. CallumR.
    Aug 28, 2007
    10
    They are back and its great to have them! Bleeding The Orchid should change anyones mind who has written them off due to the line up!
  24. MikeL
    Aug 23, 2007
    9
    People are so damn obsessed with who the line-up is and other petty crap, that they forget to listen to the actual album. Can we please for five minutes forget about Iha and Darcy, and just listen to some music? This album is great, and it truly rocks out. No one else is doing this kind of music right now, and it's a refreshing change of pace from both the Pumpkin's previous People are so damn obsessed with who the line-up is and other petty crap, that they forget to listen to the actual album. Can we please for five minutes forget about Iha and Darcy, and just listen to some music? This album is great, and it truly rocks out. No one else is doing this kind of music right now, and it's a refreshing change of pace from both the Pumpkin's previous material and from what their contemporaries are doing. Quit crying and learn to rock.… Expand
  25. MattC
    Aug 22, 2007
    9
    Very, very good album(CD). A smashing Rock rerturn as most of the songs on the CD are Rock driven. I imagine that future efforts will incorporate more of their slower material. If you want some good guitar work and blasting drums, this is a good one for you!
  26. qwertyuiopm
    Aug 17, 2007
    7
    i would have liked it better if they didnt mix it like a high school musical cd. i appreciate every part of a song and it would be nice i i could hear it all as well. on another note, the lyrics are good, and most of the songs are well structured.
  27. honesto
    Aug 16, 2007
    9
    A very welcome comeback. Great guitar riffs. Grabs you by the balls from the opening of Doomsday Clock and just doesn't let up.
  28. scottw
    Aug 15, 2007
    7
    Fun, heavey, fast and very smashing. If your a fane of the old stuff, you are bound to injoy this album.
  29. SethE
    Aug 14, 2007
    10
    This ablum stands alone as some of the best work TSP has done yet todate, I hope there is more to come :)
  30. DerekD
    Aug 13, 2007
    8
    I love a lot of tracks on this album, it stays pretty true to the classic smashing pumpkins and with only a couple of bad tracks you can't really complain with this album.
  31. steveb
    Aug 12, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist is a great rock album, and Billy Corgan has updated the pumpkins sound. Billy doesnt need James Iha, since Billy wrote EVERYTHING anyways, and the songs Iha did write(except for co writing mayonaise)sucked. Badly. I mean come on people! If you do not feel the same way, then you werent a pumpkin fan to begin with. This album is not going to win over people who didnt like the Zeitgeist is a great rock album, and Billy Corgan has updated the pumpkins sound. Billy doesnt need James Iha, since Billy wrote EVERYTHING anyways, and the songs Iha did write(except for co writing mayonaise)sucked. Badly. I mean come on people! If you do not feel the same way, then you werent a pumpkin fan to begin with. This album is not going to win over people who didnt like the pumpkins anyways, but In my opinion, the loud rock is what they did best. And dont forget that Billy wrote EVERYTHING that was good about the pumpkins. Also, even though no one really mentions it, Jimmy's drums are awesome on this record, probably his best performance on a pumpkins record. All you people who say it isnt like it was, stop living in the past! I mean, if the beatles wrote revolver 15 times it would have gotten boring! Their later stuff was way better anyways, but hey, Sgt. Peppers got bad reviews too!… Expand
  32. MarcyC
    Aug 10, 2007
    10
    The best band album since siamese dream!
  33. LukeN
    Aug 9, 2007
    9
    Most of you guys and the critics are being way harsh on this album. I personaly think it's amazing and a major kick in the butt to all other bands our right now trying to make good rock music. Billy has come back and showed them how it's done. Serously, in the song Tarantula, when he breaks out with those crazy guitar sounds before it slows up for a bit, that is real rock and Most of you guys and the critics are being way harsh on this album. I personaly think it's amazing and a major kick in the butt to all other bands our right now trying to make good rock music. Billy has come back and showed them how it's done. Serously, in the song Tarantula, when he breaks out with those crazy guitar sounds before it slows up for a bit, that is real rock and roll. Nobody else does that anymore. Billy Corgan has not let me down yet. I'm not sure how I would have gotten through my highschool years without siamese dream and Melancholy and this is just what I needed at this point in my life. The only thing keeping it from being a 10 is the last song doesn't give me goosbumps like everything else. Can't wait to hear the next record.… Expand
  34. BobbyM
    Aug 3, 2007
    10
    sure its a little different from the older smashing pumpkins, but wouldnt it be every boring if they kept playing the same stuff? This is one solid rock album.
  35. AaronB
    Aug 1, 2007
    8
    After 7 years Billy Corgan seems to have forgot the formula to making a great music but his lyrics still rock!
  36. YanM
    Jul 31, 2007
    9
    I think that the media are going nut with their review. they got something against corgan its clear. This album is the best Pumpkins material I have heard since Siamease Dream.
  37. MattD
    Jul 27, 2007
    8
    If you listen to Zeitgeist as a collection of songs, and ignore the lineup changes, expectations, etc that seem to be at the forefront of discussion regarding the album, it's a good cd. There are a few songs that are grating and pretentious but overall the music is rich, aggressive, and unique.
  38. JeffO
    Jul 23, 2007
    8
    I had to listen several times before the hooks caught on and the feeling sunk in. On my first listen I wasnt sure... After a few more listens, my opinion changed dramatically. While this album does contain 2 of the worst songs billy may ever write, it also contains some of the most infectious songs of the year. Worth every penny for Tarantula, Doomsday, Neverlost, Thats the way, and Bring I had to listen several times before the hooks caught on and the feeling sunk in. On my first listen I wasnt sure... After a few more listens, my opinion changed dramatically. While this album does contain 2 of the worst songs billy may ever write, it also contains some of the most infectious songs of the year. Worth every penny for Tarantula, Doomsday, Neverlost, Thats the way, and Bring the Light. However, DO NOT give pomp and Circumstance or United States a 2nd chance they sound aweful every time. WELCOME BACK BILLY AND JIMMY!!!! I MISSED YOU GUYS!!!… Expand
  39. jonnyj
    Jul 21, 2007
    10
    billy was always the song writer.
  40. Elig
    Jul 21, 2007
    10
    excellent cd, great tunes was definetely a good purchase
  41. MarthaReprise
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    love
  42. rogergillss
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    perfect!
  43. christianw
    Jul 19, 2007
    7
    This album is better than Machina and Adore but not as good as Gish, SD and MCATIS. The former two had that electro-clatter that stripped the music of soul and that wonderful organis cound they had. Fortunately the organic sound is back. CAN YOU GET YOUR HEAD AROUND THAT, WAYNE B???
  44. SSE
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    Because Billy doesn't have james and d'arcy everyones gonna moan that its not the pumpkins which i don't understand cause billy pretty much did everything! This is a solid album and I think it's one of the best albums of the year along with Year Zero and its a hell of a lot better then the "music" thats doing the MTV circuit these days....
  45. jasonl
    Jul 19, 2007
    10
    This is the best Pumpkin's cd yet.
  46. JorgeS
    Jul 19, 2007
    8
    One of the best albums of the year. Zeitgeist contains the best of the smashing pumpkins first era. Enjoyable & necessary for this bad times of music.
  47. RazzaA
    Jul 18, 2007
    7
    I think this album gets rather harsh criticism. First off, all the talk about the smashing pumpkins name and whether this album is a smashing pumpkins album or not is irrelevant, It is billy corgan who is making the music so it doesnt matter what you call it still the same guy making the music. And whether he puts out 3,4 or six different versions who cares? Ofcourse he wants to earn a I think this album gets rather harsh criticism. First off, all the talk about the smashing pumpkins name and whether this album is a smashing pumpkins album or not is irrelevant, It is billy corgan who is making the music so it doesnt matter what you call it still the same guy making the music. And whether he puts out 3,4 or six different versions who cares? Ofcourse he wants to earn a lot of money, who wouldn't. The second you put in the cd you recognize it as pumpkins music, the mixing is ok. Billy never could sing and he still can't. If you don't like his voice, why listen to smashing pumpkins? His tunefulness with his voice is still there. All in all, the music is ok, especially for pumpkins fans. I think it would have been wiser to put the 3 bonus tracks on the cd as well cause these are actually 3 of the strongest songs he wrote up recently. That's my only critic: why didnt they put out the 15 songs on all versions? Now there is little variation in the songs: they all rock, but i really miss the nice, more peaceful slower songs.....this gets a 7, the 15 tracks are an eight. It is alot better than other recent stuff. Enjoy and otherwise just chill and live on, its just a CD........... Try it and en… Expand
  48. NickE
    Jul 18, 2007
    7
    Surprisingly good. I'd say this is better than Adore and Machina, but worse than Mellon Collie or Siamese Dream. It's kind of a return to the style of their earlier albums: a mix of very heavy songs and soft ballad-y songs, and less preoccupied with writing poppy, catchy melodies. For me, the heavy songs really work, and the softer songs are duds. Nonetheless, I have to applaud Surprisingly good. I'd say this is better than Adore and Machina, but worse than Mellon Collie or Siamese Dream. It's kind of a return to the style of their earlier albums: a mix of very heavy songs and soft ballad-y songs, and less preoccupied with writing poppy, catchy melodies. For me, the heavy songs really work, and the softer songs are duds. Nonetheless, I have to applaud them for avoiding the temptation to make a safe, innocuous record. If you're a fan this is worth picking up.… Expand
  49. JoshM.
    Jul 17, 2007
    9
    Album has more melody then anything ive heard in 7 years... have you heard any music that has been produced recently??? As far as the mixing goes listen to it again you fucks
  50. johnm
    Jul 17, 2007
    8
    Zeitgeist certainly offers a different kind of sound from older Pumpkins music. Nevertheless, Corgan and Chanberlain are quite successful in this new style of music. The more I hear the songs on this album, the more I like it. It's no Melancholy, but the album still rocks.
  51. robg.
    Jul 16, 2007
    9
    As a fan since 1994, i'm thoroughly happy. The band is growing and evolving unlike the majority of their peers. Still able to create albums unique from the others that are prevalent and relevant
  52. IL
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    The Pumpkins are right back where they started with Gish, discovering (or rediscovering, as the case is with Zeitgeist) what sound they are trying to create etc. If this turns out to be true, the next Pumpkin album will be great. But maybe I'm just too optimistic ;-)
  53. EricR.
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    Better than any album I've hear in a long time. Compared to their previous recordings I would say not as good as Gish, SD, or Mellon Collie, but better than Adore or Machina.
  54. AndyC
    Jul 16, 2007
    8
    Impossible to judge a pumpkins album without listening to it for about 5 years. They all come good in the end. Having said that I've listened through about 3 times and it's still brill.
  55. laura
    Jul 16, 2007
    7
    Not their best ever album, but a solid work, and a promising return to music.
  56. TalonP.
    Jul 15, 2007
    10
    An awesome, almost perfect album, receiving the same critical abuse as every other Pumpkins record ever released. Exploring new production techniques is as interesting as their exploration of new musical territory. Production in rock music has become stale and standardized; this is a break from that cement concept, which is good to hear, if a little odd at first listen. This album has An awesome, almost perfect album, receiving the same critical abuse as every other Pumpkins record ever released. Exploring new production techniques is as interesting as their exploration of new musical territory. Production in rock music has become stale and standardized; this is a break from that cement concept, which is good to hear, if a little odd at first listen. This album has captivated me entirely; the fact that NME doesn't like it (or more likely doesn't like Billy) makes not the slightest shade of difference to me. I pity those who take anothers' opinions as their own - especially taking them from the music press; the same press that has dogged pretty much all of the greatest bands and albums of all time. It is all just subjective opinion. Why not make up your own mind and stop reading reviews? Including this one.… Expand
  57. RobertP.
    Jul 15, 2007
    9
    not the best of sp but still another production of musical genius by one of the greatest.
  58. rogerc.
    Jul 14, 2007
    10
    amazing!
  59. JustinD.
    Jul 14, 2007
    9
    I did not expect to love this album, but as a someone who came up with 90s rock, it provides nostalgia and relevancy if that is possible. It's obvious that if the Pumpkins had made this album as a follow up to Melancollie, there wouldn't be any doubt to the group's greatness, but it came ten years too late for the "experts."
  60. joeh.
    Jul 13, 2007
    9
    This is a very solid album. Having heard the majority of their work, I would tie this with Siamese Dream as their second-best album. Their are a variety of quality singles (tarantula,doomsday clock,thats the way), and the depth of the material is quite solid as well. Their only shortcoming is that some songs seem lacking in terms of ornamentation, i.e. you hear only the guitar and drums This is a very solid album. Having heard the majority of their work, I would tie this with Siamese Dream as their second-best album. Their are a variety of quality singles (tarantula,doomsday clock,thats the way), and the depth of the material is quite solid as well. Their only shortcoming is that some songs seem lacking in terms of ornamentation, i.e. you hear only the guitar and drums and little support from other instruments to fill the gaps. Other than these small issues, it's a triumphant return!… Expand
  61. spfission
    Jul 13, 2007
    8
    Billy once again proves that he does not need to live off his past hits. He continues to evolve as an artist which is very rare in this day. Zeitgeist will prove to be a classic. Solid Album.
  62. AnthonyS.
    Jul 13, 2007
    9
    I really enjoy this album. It isn't a classic album like siamese melon collie, or gish, but it is both better than anything since and such a refreshingly good album in this day and age of dead mainstream rock. It is signature pumpkins music, albeit the harder edge of their leanings, but there is a good poppy song or 2 for you 1979 folks, as well as the seemingly unavoidable I really enjoy this album. It isn't a classic album like siamese melon collie, or gish, but it is both better than anything since and such a refreshingly good album in this day and age of dead mainstream rock. It is signature pumpkins music, albeit the harder edge of their leanings, but there is a good poppy song or 2 for you 1979 folks, as well as the seemingly unavoidable appearance of a bland billy C love song, which occur on most all pumpkins records. Jimmy bangs the hell out of the drums, and Corgan melts faces on the guitar. His voice has thankfully remained strong. The howling "Owwww!!" in the 10 minute "United States" sums up my feelings pretty well about this album. A Refreshing Blast of badly missed Pumpkins energy. Bring on more SP albums!!… Expand
  63. markb.
    Jul 13, 2007
    10
    The Album of the year!
  64. Arthur
    Jul 12, 2007
    8
    Don't believe the critics! Zeitgeist is a great album. Don't get me wrong, I'm not just some biased Billy Corgan/Pumpkins fan; I hated his solo album and thought Zwan was a real disappointment.
  65. justwonderful
    Jul 12, 2007
    10
    At first I despised this album. I was convinced Billy Corgan was a greedy, egotistical jerk who lost his touch. However, I kept listening to Zeitgeist. On the second listen, I thought it was simply mediocre... by the third, I was thinking it was average... by the fourth or fifth, I adored it completely. It's one of those "listen-more-love-it-more". Don't listen once and decide At first I despised this album. I was convinced Billy Corgan was a greedy, egotistical jerk who lost his touch. However, I kept listening to Zeitgeist. On the second listen, I thought it was simply mediocre... by the third, I was thinking it was average... by the fourth or fifth, I adored it completely. It's one of those "listen-more-love-it-more". Don't listen once and decide it's a travesty. Because it's not, it's genius. Personally, I think Zeitgeist is one of their best. It's honestly the only Pumpkins disc I can listen to the whole way through, without skipping tracks, because every single track has its own beauty.… Expand
  66. MorrisD.
    Jul 12, 2007
    7
    Not at par with Smashing Pumpkins material up to Adore but a good album in it's own right. Just not exceptional.
  67. ryanm.
    Jul 12, 2007
    9
    This is an amazing and impressive album. The only downside is it displays only one aspect of the band's huge scope of versatility and songwriting. There are hits of what made them so versatile in the first place (the 10 seconds near the end of tarantula) but this is obviously the way they wanted it. It actually goes along with the theme of the album being frustrated by modern This is an amazing and impressive album. The only downside is it displays only one aspect of the band's huge scope of versatility and songwriting. There are hits of what made them so versatile in the first place (the 10 seconds near the end of tarantula) but this is obviously the way they wanted it. It actually goes along with the theme of the album being frustrated by modern america/gov. The pumpkins were always billy and jimmy, as much I respect james, billy wrote and played 95 of everything the pumpkins ever recorded. Obviously Jimmy is the other unique and irreplaceable part of the band.… Expand
  68. MrT
    Jul 12, 2007
    10
    just goes to show how much critics know about whats good...
  69. RamiroS.
    Jul 12, 2007
    10
    best album of 2007!
  70. Nicholas)
    Jul 11, 2007
    7
    Not the pumpkins best, but far from their worst (Machina is a horrible album). A worthy comeback.
  71. MikeL.
    Jul 11, 2007
    9
    Incredible effort for their first album in 7 years. I know it's not the same Pumpkins as before (Iha and D'Arcy are missing), but Corgan has always been the heart of the band, and Jimmy is brilliant in his drumming on Zeitgeist. The sound picks up where Machina left off. Its very heavy, but very accessible. Overall, its the best Pumpkins album since Mellon Collie.
  72. DanielK.
    Jul 11, 2007
    9
    Great Album all around. There are so many layers to Billy's philosophy on life here. Bring the Light is in theory his first song telling us that he's finally found happieness. Musically solid all throughout.
  73. RT
    Jul 11, 2007
    10
    Easily the best actual rock album in years. From start to finish this album delivers. With hints of older Pumpkins, like Siamese Dream, but with a newer updated sound (if the same thing was done over and over it would become dull). Raw, heavy and dynamic - this album was clearly well thought out with a purpose in mind. So to those critics who rated this album low - maybe stick to the Easily the best actual rock album in years. From start to finish this album delivers. With hints of older Pumpkins, like Siamese Dream, but with a newer updated sound (if the same thing was done over and over it would become dull). Raw, heavy and dynamic - this album was clearly well thought out with a purpose in mind. So to those critics who rated this album low - maybe stick to the generic radio rock that you rated highly and has no impact what so ever. Its nice to know that to some of us, rock isn't completely dead.… Expand
  74. GeorgeM.
    Jul 11, 2007
    10
    This is truly one of the greatest bands ever. How can these absolute morons say that it lacks orginality. Its mind blowing I waited seven years for this and i am in no way dissapointed, it was definitely worth the wait. And this is a truely hard rocking album (no fairy included). WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  75. CarlW.
    Jul 11, 2007
    10
    Fantastic!
  76. CruellaDeVille
    Jul 11, 2007
    8
    I only bought this record because the Pumpkins were one of my favorite bands of the 90s. I expected it to be bad, but I have been pleasantly surprised. It is definitely worth buying.
  77. Dustin
    Jul 11, 2007
    9
    Upon listening to the live stream promo release of the Smashing Pumpkins new album Zeitgeist, I wasn't very impressed. The definitive Pumpkins sound was in there somewhere, but I thought it was lost in the mix somehow. The vocals were too sharp and high in the mix and the layered vocals bordered on ridiculous in songs like Starz. Moreover, Jimmy Chamberlin's excellent drumming Upon listening to the live stream promo release of the Smashing Pumpkins new album Zeitgeist, I wasn't very impressed. The definitive Pumpkins sound was in there somewhere, but I thought it was lost in the mix somehow. The vocals were too sharp and high in the mix and the layered vocals bordered on ridiculous in songs like Starz. Moreover, Jimmy Chamberlin's excellent drumming was buried in some parts. Perhaps working with Roy Thomas Baker (producer for Queen, The Cars...) was a mistake? Maybe recording the album with Butch Vig (Nevermind, Siamese Dream) would have been a better idea, to help recapture the magic of old? Tonight I received an email telling me I could download my pre-order of Zeitgeist through iTunes (normally I don't buy lossy music but I wanted the code for advance concert ticket orders). After loading it into my iPod I settled in to give the album a proper listen and decide whether my original impression of the album would stand. Firstly, the album version sounds much better than the internet streams and leaks. Anyone who steals this album and thinks is sounds bad needs to take a listen from a CD or official source. It is amazing how much worse a badly compressed file can sound. If the iTunes version sounds this good, then I am getting the CD ASAP to see if it is even better. The production is very clean, and while I would still have liked the vocals to be mixed slightly lower, I feel that I can live with them as the guitars now hold their own and the drums are solid. The album doesn't sound like any other Pumpkins record so comparisons can be thrown out the window but dark and sultry are the closest adjectives I can find to describe the production. Upon pressing play, the album launches into overdrive with tracks, Doomsday Clock and 7 Shades of Black. The buzzing drone of Doomsday Clock channels a more radio friendly version of Bodies from MCIS, and 7 Shades recalls the track Dross from the group's free internet release Machina II, with a little bit of Geek USA and Sabbath thrown in for good measure. Unfortunately, missing is the fast/slow dynamic of earlier Pumpkins songs. Still, very solid tracks. Bleeding the Orchid is a dark, undulating track that continues the dark tone of the album, and sounds like a long lost b-side from Gish. This track is the first to make apparent the trend of vocal layering used throughout the album, for good or bad. In a wash of warm faded guitars, Thats the Way (My Love Is) reminds of a Zwan take on Stand Inside Your Love. "Of course I love you baby/'cause i'm alive" sings Billy, and one can't help but wonder if he is speaking to former lover Courtney Love. Before listening to Tarantula, it is apparent that the lyrics of Zeitgeist are pseudo-political from lines like "in whitewashed halls/their jackals lick their paws...", but after listening to Tarantula it becomes apparent what the title Zeitgeist (The Spirit of the times) means. If the lyrics "don't let me say this/but you're no worse than me/its crazy/we are the real/if real ever was/and just because/we are the real/they feel we have enough" aren't enough to interpret Billy's motives, the not too subtle single cover with Paris Hilton standing in front of a mushroom cloud with a Blackberry in hand completely gives them away. The concept of the album centers around America's apathy and languorous attitude concerning the political and social climate produced by our leaders and felt by people around the world. Indeed, the climate of bloggers and MySpace has led to a public more interested in Britney's Spears' haircut than more serious subjects. Although Billy admits, Paris and his listeners are no worse than him, as we are all "Starz". Someone, (the internet, paparazzi, corporations?) gave us sound. Starz is a repetitive, David Bowie/Ziggy Stardust homage with more vocal layering which reaffirms the earlier thematic elements discussed. After Starz, the album reaches it's climax with the rollicking 9:51 minute track United States. This track is indulgent, but it is nevertheless impressive and obviously meant to be a live jam track with warbled guitars and Billy exclaiming "revolution!/what will they do to you?". The bombastic United States is followed by a 1979 inspired track Neverlost with marimbas in the background. Although many will skip this track while listening to the album, it is important because it sets the tone for the second half of the album which turns from dark and brooding to hopeful. "Lets kill these hours/and fill desire" Billy croons in this love song. Bring the Light, is the newest sounding song on the album, and although repetitive, it sounds like a radio single with its catchy lyrics and Brian May/Ava Adore guitar solo. (Come On), Lets Go! is Pop-Grunge (oxymoron?) at its finest and is somehow eerily similar to Today. Billy sings about escaping "c'mon lets go/beyond the great unknown/beyond their punched-up skulls/to die upon this road". C'mon Billy, any Grunge fan knows it's not a great unknown it's a "Superunknown". The final two songs sound very much out of place. Billy slips back into dark and brooding mode with "God and Country" which sounds like a b-side from Adore or Machina with its synth-pop mechanics. However, it would never fit on those albums with its political message. Pomp and Circumstance is difficult to describe but if you have seen movies like 1492: Conquest of Paradise, or other period exploration movies you will recognize the influence. The Tribal Island sounds remind of perhaps The Thin Red Line? The song is hopeful. So thematically, it fits the arch of sounds Billy has created, but still somehow it still doesn't seem to fit. Zeitgeist judged against other Pumpkins works isn't their best and isn't their worst. As noted in many web forums, Jame Iha and D'arcy Wretsky had very little to do with the recording of the classic Pumpkins records so it is difficult to say if their influence is missed here. The Smashing Pumpkins are an ever changing sound imagined by Billy Corgan and made possible by the remarkable rhythms produced by Jimmy Chamberlin. Each Pumpkins album is different and meant to be appreciated on its own, and on its own Zeitgeist is great. Highlights for me are: 7 Shades, Bring the Light, Tarantula, Starz, Bleeding the Orchid, and (Come On).… Expand
  78. mullethead
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    Billy Corgan like all smart musicians understands his strengths and plays to them. The same clash of gloomy and uplifting, of heavy guitars and melodic vocals that made The Smashing Pumpkins take off in the first place is still evident here and it still sounds good
  79. aaronm
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    Critics have been bashing the pumpkins since siamese dream and its crap. This cd is absolutely stellar. There best? Of course not, but its hard rocking very solid cd and i was expecting something softer, more akin to his solo stuff or zwan. so so SO happy with this..critics are douchebags
  80. AdamE
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    It is unfortunate that critics have almost uniformly decided to measure this album against the highest achievements of the band. When assessed independently of the Pumpkins oeuvre, Zeitgeist proves to be a forceful and fun contribution to rock music. If any other band put out this record, it would be on all the critical year-end lists that matter.
  81. Mike
    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    It is what it is. D'Arcy and James were fine, but the band was always Jimmy's jazz and Billy's metal. Lest not we remind the crying fans that Siamese Dream was recorded exactly the same way; Billy playing bass, guitars and vocals and Jimmy on drums. The album is solidly produced with some decent songs. Its the best effort since Mellon Collie. Don't take it for shame, It is what it is. D'Arcy and James were fine, but the band was always Jimmy's jazz and Billy's metal. Lest not we remind the crying fans that Siamese Dream was recorded exactly the same way; Billy playing bass, guitars and vocals and Jimmy on drums. The album is solidly produced with some decent songs. Its the best effort since Mellon Collie. Don't take it for shame, it is undeniable that the Pumpkins have changed, but it seems as though they took highlights from all their albums and put an agressively concise and impactful message out for the public. If you don't agree with the politics, fine- I know I don't. But take a look around, they may have a point.… Expand
  82. GaryC
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    What's with the production...I can't get over how strange the mix is...the over layerd vocals sound wierd in some places and Billy's voice lacks the shrill bite that I'm used to. Again, in comparison to what else is out there...this album beats the crap out of it. All the new rockers could take a lesson from this stuff, but for S.Pumpkins status it's just okay. What's with the production...I can't get over how strange the mix is...the over layerd vocals sound wierd in some places and Billy's voice lacks the shrill bite that I'm used to. Again, in comparison to what else is out there...this album beats the crap out of it. All the new rockers could take a lesson from this stuff, but for S.Pumpkins status it's just okay. Well, it's really good, very creative, strong melodies...but the punch isn't all quite there. There are moments when the music sounds intensely beautiful, or intensely dark...but the moments are far between. At least the Pumpkins have turned from the mainstream mush they seemed destined for with they're last two albums. Maybe the new lineup is a benefit in that sense...in all I'm impressed that the two remaining members can still push the band to these levels. A little more TLC on these songs might have been welcome.… Expand
  83. JonN.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    Grrreeeaat!
  84. MattD.
    Jul 10, 2007
    8
    This is their best CD since Mellon Collie. It's a no take prisoners, aggressive CD. I see it as a perfection of the metallic edge that they showed before. Only problem is, sometimes the fuzz goes on for too long without a change. There are some little quirks to be found, though, like the blues rhythm in "For God And Country."
  85. DanieleA.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    Better than Machina I & II. Good point of start, the future is great!Sorry my english!!!
  86. FrankA.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    While it isn't a masterpiece like Siamese Dream, its artistic, heavy and inspiring all in one. Do yourself a favor, get some good speakers (bose), pop in the CD, crank it and listen to Doomsday Clock........if you don't get goosebumps within the first minute, check your pulse. I've been seeing bad reviews all day about this album and its not shocking, great art is not While it isn't a masterpiece like Siamese Dream, its artistic, heavy and inspiring all in one. Do yourself a favor, get some good speakers (bose), pop in the CD, crank it and listen to Doomsday Clock........if you don't get goosebumps within the first minute, check your pulse. I've been seeing bad reviews all day about this album and its not shocking, great art is not understood by all. I think classic fans and new fans of the pumpkins will be very happy with the album.… Expand
  87. MattS.
    Jul 10, 2007
    7
    I'm sick of people panning this album because they think Billy Corgan's a jerk. That has little if anything to do with the music. And if Billy Corgan is only interested in the money, then why oh why did he release an LP and 3 EPs for FREE in 2000 (Machina II) and why did he perform a tour where he donated almost all of the proceeds to charity? Ginger and Jeff are better I'm sick of people panning this album because they think Billy Corgan's a jerk. That has little if anything to do with the music. And if Billy Corgan is only interested in the money, then why oh why did he release an LP and 3 EPs for FREE in 2000 (Machina II) and why did he perform a tour where he donated almost all of the proceeds to charity? Ginger and Jeff are better instrumentalists than D'arcy and James, but it matters very little since Corgan almost never allows anyone but Jimmy and him to record tracks for albums (this goes back as far as Siamese Dream). Also, this records sounds nothing like Top 40 metal, emo, or hard rock, and the people who are claiming it does obviously haven't listened to the album at all, or are hoping they can make their mark on the world by trying to derail an album by bitching about it online. If you think this album is simple and trashy, try analyzing it with music theory and see for yourself that its not as simplistic as you may think. This is a good Pumpkins album, better than Machina and probably better than Adore to most part-time Pumpkins fans. Yes, the mixing has some bizarre choices, but the selection of songs is far from sub-par. Give this album an chance and check out the Pumpkins in concert (they put on a great show!).… Expand
  88. OttoH.
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    I am a pumpkin fan of the 1st order and i can say I really like this album! It is really diverse! i like especially 'Bleeding the orchid', 'Bring the light' and Come on let's go. But also Tarantula and United States rock!. Maybe some tunes are 'easy', but so?? they do rock deeply :-) What i find intriguing is that the especially the people that criticize I am a pumpkin fan of the 1st order and i can say I really like this album! It is really diverse! i like especially 'Bleeding the orchid', 'Bring the light' and Come on let's go. But also Tarantula and United States rock!. Maybe some tunes are 'easy', but so?? they do rock deeply :-) What i find intriguing is that the especially the people that criticize this album almost all do cherry some songs on the album, but they do not seem to agree which are the good one and which are the bad ones. One thing for sure 'Pomp and Cirumstances' is not the best song of the album. :-)… Expand
  89. MarcosS.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    The Best álbum since Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness!
  90. jamie
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    awesome. bleeding the orchid might just be my new favourite sp song. so much more entertaining then the current rip off rock bands bloating the market today
  91. EdmondL
    Jul 10, 2007
    9
    An excellent album, has some good rockers. Give it time to sink in, you might not like it at first. Definitely worth buying, the bonus tracks are great as well.
  92. RobertoR.
    Jul 10, 2007
    10
    Smashing Pumpkins're back. No zwan, no billy corgan solo album. They rock as the past. chamberlain is fantastic.
  93. Frans
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    Good album
  94. WilliamO.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    After the 1st listen or 2 I was wondering how much I actually liked it. After 3 or 4 listenings with headphones (A MUSH FOR THIS ALBUM) it really grew on me. Then I added the 3 "bonus" tracks: Stellar, Death From Above, and Zeitgeist to make the album 15 songs and I must say it is excellent. Very hard to compare to their previous CDs, because it has a little from each in it. Please do After the 1st listen or 2 I was wondering how much I actually liked it. After 3 or 4 listenings with headphones (A MUSH FOR THIS ALBUM) it really grew on me. Then I added the 3 "bonus" tracks: Stellar, Death From Above, and Zeitgeist to make the album 15 songs and I must say it is excellent. Very hard to compare to their previous CDs, because it has a little from each in it. Please do yourself the favor of listening to this at least 3 times with decent headphones and add the 3 bonus tracks before you make a judgement. Trust me, you will love it. These idiot critics I am sure listened to it once and hate Billy Corgan anyway (all most talk about is the band's history, not the album itself). SP IS BACK!!!!… Expand
  95. ToddL.
    Jul 9, 2007
    9
    Since many reviewers will choose to critique Billy Corgan as a person rather than the album, it should be said that Zeitgeist is a tremendous album with lots to offer, especially if you miss the heavy Pumpkins of the past. Jimmy's drums sound as good as ever, and the guitars are crisp and powerful. What Billy may have lost in the aggressiveness of his voice, he's made up for Since many reviewers will choose to critique Billy Corgan as a person rather than the album, it should be said that Zeitgeist is a tremendous album with lots to offer, especially if you miss the heavy Pumpkins of the past. Jimmy's drums sound as good as ever, and the guitars are crisp and powerful. What Billy may have lost in the aggressiveness of his voice, he's made up for with beautifully layered harmonies throughout many of the songs. This is most definitely the finest album Billy Corgan has put forth since Adore.… Expand
  96. DavinM.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    The guitar and drumming work on the album is phenomenal. Hands down. All the songs contain depth, complex song structure and IMO are a logical evolution of the Pumpkins' past sound. The song-writing shows a maturity and restraint on Billy's part, while at the same time constantly breaking the mold of what we commonly think of as rock music. This album rocks harder than anything The guitar and drumming work on the album is phenomenal. Hands down. All the songs contain depth, complex song structure and IMO are a logical evolution of the Pumpkins' past sound. The song-writing shows a maturity and restraint on Billy's part, while at the same time constantly breaking the mold of what we commonly think of as rock music. This album rocks harder than anything I have heard this year, but still manages to capture the aspects of the band in subtle ways through-out the album (and less subtle ways at the end of the album). Jimmy did the drum-take on United States (9min song, track 7) in 1 single take with no click-track. The guitar work sounds like "a nuclear bomb hitting a guitar center" to quote Blender. Songs like Tarantula and Come On Lets Go are constantly evolving as they progress and capture a complex dyanmic barely present in rock music today. Not to mention guitar solos. Rock on.… Expand
  97. DanielS.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    better thank loosing my virginty all these music press reviews make me SICK - they are so far off the mark - these guys that dig franz ferdinand, josh groban, the kooks etc etc - it's all wank. this album is AMAZING
  98. RandallR.
    Jul 9, 2007
    10
    I give it a 10... not that it's any consolation to me considering a "10" is available for use on Avril and Linkin Park's releases, but it's a 10 compared to everything else out there. This is a gorgeous album. It's not fair for critics to calibrate their rating by SP's back catalogue, (which is full of 20's if anything by John Mayer or Dave Matthews is a 7) I give it a 10... not that it's any consolation to me considering a "10" is available for use on Avril and Linkin Park's releases, but it's a 10 compared to everything else out there. This is a gorgeous album. It's not fair for critics to calibrate their rating by SP's back catalogue, (which is full of 20's if anything by John Mayer or Dave Matthews is a 7) so I'm basing this on quality of the music. What a novel idea. This album rocks my socks off. Bleeding the Orchid is not only my fav on the album, but possibly in my top 5 Pumpkins songs ever. Also, I love the production by Roy Thomas Baker, which brings out another dimension of Corgan's vocals previously unheard. If only Machina had this kind of production... This album has the heaviness of Machina with all the quirks and landscape of Adore. Good stuff.… Expand
  99. SimonP.
    Jul 9, 2007
    9
    I cant figure out which track is the best. Hearing the Pumpkins at Live Earth, its clear once more that their music stands above most other acts out there in terms of having something to say. Zeitgeist is brilliantly crafted, and I look forward to future releases. As a Pumpkin fan, I am not disappointed by the album at all. Only criticism is that there is far less variety than older SP I cant figure out which track is the best. Hearing the Pumpkins at Live Earth, its clear once more that their music stands above most other acts out there in terms of having something to say. Zeitgeist is brilliantly crafted, and I look forward to future releases. As a Pumpkin fan, I am not disappointed by the album at all. Only criticism is that there is far less variety than older SP albums, though the bonus tracks remedy this problem.… Expand
  100. dimae.
    Jul 9, 2007
    9
    I guess most people just overestimated their ability. We all think Billy doesn't dare to make just an ordinary "brilliant cd". We all expected masterpiece like.
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Mixed or average reviews - based on 29 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 9 out of 29
  2. Mixed: 16 out of 29
  3. Negative: 4 out of 29
  1. Amazon.com
    80
    Overall, Corgan's captivating effort to mine both the spirit of these turbulent times and the soul of his defining band is a smashing success.
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  2. Blender
    60
    Zeitgeist’s orgy of avalanche rhythms, cascading riffs and sky-licking guitar is as grandiose as ever (the solo on "Tarantula" sounds like a nuke hitting a Guitar Center), but the bombast is softened as Corgan reaches out for shame-sharing community.
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  3. New Musical Express (NME)
    50
    It's best treated as a curio in the Smashing Pumpkins' legacy; and for those who grew up on 'Today', '1979' and 'Ava Adore', you're better left with your memories.
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