Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings

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  1. Inuhanyou
    Mar 27, 2018
    10
    I have not played an Atelier game since Escha and Logy, but i have to say this one was really great. It feels like Gust are really reaching toward the penultimate combination of slice of life elements and chemical crafting and traditional turn based RPG combat. And the art style has really survived the transition from last gen to current gen.

    I just hope some day Koei Tecmo gives Gust    I have not played an Atelier game since Escha and Logy, but i have to say this one was really great. It feels like Gust are really reaching toward the penultimate combination of slice of life elements and chemical crafting and traditional turn based RPG combat. And the art style has really survived the transition from last gen to current gen.

    I just hope some day Koei Tecmo gives Gust more of a budget to really expand their formula to even greater heights    … Expand
  2. OneManCast
    Apr 30, 2021
    10
    Contrary to tomvs123, I do not see it like that. Atelier Lydie and Sue is an incredible experience, with phenomenal OST music, great setpieces and arguably one of the best alchemy systems in the series. It tackled many themes. Loss, how to cope with it, as well as other aspects. So yeah no, its a great game and doesn't insult one's intelligence. This game is easily one of the better gamesContrary to tomvs123, I do not see it like that. Atelier Lydie and Sue is an incredible experience, with phenomenal OST music, great setpieces and arguably one of the best alchemy systems in the series. It tackled many themes. Loss, how to cope with it, as well as other aspects. So yeah no, its a great game and doesn't insult one's intelligence. This game is easily one of the better games out there. Get this one over the Ryza duology.… Expand
  3. BlahCultural
    Mar 28, 2018
    9
    Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings é um título que eu já aguardava há muito tempo. O sucesso da franquia é tamanho que agora ela já tem praticamente diversos títulos em seu total. Particularmente, sou fascinado por J-RPG's e todos aqui sabem disso, mas será que este aqui vale seu rico dinheirinho como dizia o Tio Patinhas?

    Atelier Lydie & Suelle marca o    Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings é um título que eu já aguardava há muito tempo. O sucesso da franquia é tamanho que agora ela já tem praticamente diversos títulos em seu total. Particularmente, sou fascinado por J-RPG's e todos aqui sabem disso, mas será que este aqui vale seu rico dinheirinho como dizia o Tio Patinhas?

    Atelier Lydie & Suelle marca o retorno da saga após quase um ano do lançamento de Atelier Firis. Em Lydie e Suelen temos nossas duas protagonistas inicialmente em uma floresta em busca de alguns itens para trabalhar em sua alquimia. Com foco em entregar os itens solicitados por alguns aldeões em seu vilarejo, somos introduzidos a uma breve narrativa - e ao mesmo tempo tutorial - para coleta de itens. As duas irmãs conseguem alguns itens que eram necessários para criar os itens solicitados. De volta ao atelier de seu pai, recebemos mais algumas funções de tutorial a serem seguidas como poder dormir, descansar e ir até o caldeirão e aprender alquimia. Enquanto não devem descansar, também somos apresentados a como salvar o jogo, que apenas será necessário se aproximar da cômoda do quarto delas. Além de podermos realizar o save, nesta mesma cômoda, podemos trocar a trilha de fundo e também alternar entre as protagonistas. Dada essas opções, logo a seguir, temos de ir para o caldeirão e criar tudo aquilo que nos foi solicitado. Há um breve tutorial de como criar os itens. Podemos criar itens de cura, de ataque e defesa, mas também tinta de pintar. Tudo que inicialmente somos ensinados a fazer são os Healing Pads. Uma espécie de biscoito que mais parece Clube Social e podemos usar em nossa jornada para curar nossas garotinhas.

    Tudo aqui é baseado em magia e, apesar de nossas encantadoras personagens inicialmente não terem praticamente poder algum, após esses acontecimentos somos apresentados a um outro tutorial que ensina alguns golpes. Ele são específicos para uma determinada área do mapa chamado de “Outskirts Map”, uma espécie de sub-mapa de vilarejos dentro da cidadela onde estamos. Lá temos de coletar alguns itens específicos simplesmente por também haver uma certa rixa entre os atelieres da cidade. Há uma competição entre eles para aumentar seus rankings e precisamos coletar itens essenciais para fazer uma alquimia melhor. No decorrer da jornada, vamos aprendendo a como deixar melhor nosso sistema de alquimia e também relações interpessoais. Não há um sistema de amizade nem nada próximo disto, mas sabemos que, de certa forma, as pessoas do vilarejo verão nossas gêmeas com outros olhos caso elas venham a ter um melhor desempenho ao criar itens através da alquimia.

    Os comandos para ataque e defesa são bem básicos e há muitas cutscenes. Somos apresentados a diversos personagens que possuem ataques diferenciados. Uma das protagonistas está de posse de uma pistola que visualmente parece um “três oitão”, enquanto outra desfere golpes e magias através de um bastão. Na verdade, tirando a parte de lutas, o restante do game é quase um graphic novel, ao menos no início de nossa jornada. Para que haja uma experiência ainda mais gostosa, em aproximadamente 20 horas de gameplay, quase metade deste tempo foi gasta com cenas e diálogos que até entretêm e que, por vezes, eram demasiadamente longos. O que há de combate real são lutas contra monstros e algumas missões provindas de certas pinturas. Os cenários mudam totalmente e cada pintura é um novo mapa a ser descoberto. Também há como receber algumas missões provindas de NPC’s espalhados nos mapas e consequentemente teremos acesso a algumas habilidades após encontrarmos algumas misteriosas pinturas. Exemplo disto é quando fomos tragados pelo quadro que está no sótão da casa delas e que o pai as proíbe de ter acesso. Lá coletamos itens diversos que não existem em nossa ‘realidade’. O combate é praticamente todo feito por turnos e sua única opção de bater em algo sem que seja dessa forma será para quebrar uma rocha ou fazer com que frutos caiam da árvore ao tocá-la com seu cajado. Há alguns puzzles a serem resolvidos e boa parte deles são simples. Não há muita mufa a ser queimada, enquanto outros jogos do gênero passam longe de terem quebra-cabeças.

    Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings conseguirá arrancar suspiros dos mais apaixonados pelo gênero e mesmo de quem não conheça a história dessas franquia. Certamente qualquer jogador ficará surpreso em tudo que o jogo lhe proporcionará, em uma experiência que pode durar cerca de 30 horas se você fizer tudo direitinho e vasculhar todo o jogo desde NPC’s até mesmo resolver certos puzzles mais complexos. Uma linda aula de alquimia e magia o aguarda.    … Expand
  4. 17_jrpg
    Mar 27, 2018
    9
    Now that Atelier Lydie & Suelle is finally released, I'll share my review for Mysterious series (Atelier Sophie, Atelier Firis and Atelier Lydie & Suelle).

    Each game in the Mysterious series have their goal: in Atelier Sophie you must restore the book's memories and its former human form, in Atelier Firis you must pass the alchemist certification exam in one year so you can become a    Now that Atelier Lydie & Suelle is finally released, I'll share my review for Mysterious series (Atelier Sophie, Atelier Firis and Atelier Lydie & Suelle).

    Each game in the Mysterious series have their goal: in Atelier Sophie you must restore the book's memories and its former human form, in Atelier Firis you must pass the alchemist certification exam in one year so you can become a full fledged alchemist and earn the right to keep exploring the world indefinitely, and in Atelier Lydie & Suelle you must explore the worlds within paintings and raise the Atelier Rank in order to have the best atelier in the kingdom. To achieve goals, you have to do certain tasks, and you solve these tasks with alchemy (this is the core of all Atelier games).

    The core system of alchemy is the same in all Atelier games: you need a recipe and ingredients to make a new item. To get a new recipe you have to buy, earn or find them, at least that's how was in previous games. In the Mysterious series they presented a new way to get a recipes: now you can get an idea for new recipes through various types of activities such as fighting, meeting characters, gathering material, and the act of synthesis itself. This new way to get a recipes is interesting, and actually gives the feeling that the protagonists learns alchemy. Also, the synthesis system has been changed in the Mysterious series, and this new system is a bit harder for reason because you have to solve the puzzle so you can get the better effects on the items. In previous games it was easier, for example in the Arland series you can get a different effects based on the quality of the items (better quality, better effect), or in the Dusk series you can get a different effects based on element level (higher level, better effect). In each game of the Mysterious series, they add some new elements to the synthesis system to improve it (for example Catalyst system and Enhancing Agent). Maybe the new synthesis system is a bit harder, but it adds the challenge and the ability to experiment with the items. If you want to make a better item, then you need to find the best ingredient. Each ingredient is of different quality and contains different traits. To find the best ingredients then you have to explore the world and fight different monsters.

    The battle system through the Mysterious series also has changed a lot (just like in the Dusk series). In Atelier Sophie they put a traditional turn-based battle system with support system (four characters in battle). In Atelier Firis they put a battle system which is a combination of battle systems from Atelier (support system and Chain Burst) and Ar Tonelico (three vanguarts in the front and alchemist in the back). In Atelier Lydie & Suelle they put a new battle system which is known as Collaboration Battles. In battle there are three pairs (six characters in battle), and in each pair, one takes the role of the main attacker, while their partner provides the support. Also, in battle you can use a special command to synthesize items (similar to Atelier Iris). This new battle system is much better than battle systems in Atelier Sophie and Atelier Firis, because it is faster and more active.

    In the end I can conclude that from Atelier Sophie to Atelier Lydie & Suelle, certain aspects of gameplay are improving. In order to gain a full experience of the Mysterious series, I recommend that you first play Atelier Sophie and Atelier Firis (in case you didn't), then Atelier Lydie & Suelle. I have rated all three games in the Mysterious series with 9 out of 10 because I like them all, they have a very interesting story and gameplay. I can say that the Mysterious series is one of the best in the Atelier series. Also, I gave a score of 9 out of 10 because there is still a place to improve the Atelier games, so I hope the next series will be even better.    … Expand
  5. TeamKazato
    Apr 24, 2018
    8
    Das Letzte Game der Mysterious Trillogy. Gut aber mit Mängeln, insbesondere verglichen mit dem Vorgänger Atelier Firis.
    Das Level Limit im moment ist 50 wird mit patches wohl noch auf 99/100 erhöht werden aber im moment ist 50 das Maximum welches ich schon lange vor dem Finalen Boss erreicht hatte.
    Die Gegner sind für Lvl 50 EXTREM unausgeglichen einige Große Gegner sind selbst mit dem    Das Letzte Game der Mysterious Trillogy. Gut aber mit Mängeln, insbesondere verglichen mit dem Vorgänger Atelier Firis.
    Das Level Limit im moment ist 50 wird mit patches wohl noch auf 99/100 erhöht werden aber im moment ist 50 das Maximum welches ich schon lange vor dem Finalen Boss erreicht hatte.
    Die Gegner sind für Lvl 50 EXTREM unausgeglichen einige Große Gegner sind selbst mit dem Endgame Equipment einfach nur lächerlich hart. Man kann Palmyra in diesem Game wieder bekämpfen aber sie hat hier mit Lvl 50 schon 12000+ HP, mal ganz zu schweigen von der Crimson Goddess welche einfach eine Attacke nach der anderen machen kann, teilweise mehr als 5 oder sogar 8 hintereinander was SEHR STARK an "Order Break" in Omega Quintet schon erinnert und dieses war das absolut schlimmste.
    Die ganzen Coolen Super Moves die es in Atelier Firis gab? Weg, ersetzt mit Kombinations Attacken welche kaum bis gar kein ersatz für die Super Moves sind. Ach ja das Team ist im Kampf auf 3 Mitglieder beschränkt was den Kampf sogar noch schwerer macht vergleichen mit Atelier Firis wo man 4 hatte.
    So nun die Guten Punkte:
    Fast alle alten Charaktere von Atelier Firis sind hier wieder vertreten. Ilmeria welche die Lehrerin von unseren beiden Hauptcharakteren ist, Firis, Sophie, Plachta, Kornelia, Pamela, Drossel, Fritz, und ich glaub sogar der Schmied aus Atelier Meruru? korrigiert mich wenn ich falsch liege.
    Ilmeria sticht SEHR hervor als der beste Character in dem Game bei WEITEM.
    Ilmeria ist hier 19, sprich 4 Jahre älter als in Atelier Firis und man merkt es nicht nur an ihrem Aussehen, sondern auch an Ihrer veränderten Personalität aber sie hat noch Ihre alten Komplexe von früher was gut ist!
    Die Musik ist recht gut gelungen auch wenn die Musik nie wieder an das Meisterwerk welches Atelier Meruru war rankommen wird.
    2 Wunderschöne Tracks sind hier enthalten der Flower Garden und in dem Zeit Gemälde.
    Story ist ganz Gut, es geht um Lydie und Suelle welche den besten Atelier im gesamten Königreich aufstellen wollen und müssen diverse Tests durchlaufen um ihren Rank zu erhöhen. Mehr will ich dazu nicht sagen aus Spoiler Gründen.
    Die Spielbaren Charaktere sind Lydie, Suelle, Firis, Sophie, Mathias und Alt.
    Jap das ist richtig kein Ilmeria oder Plachta.
    Ilmeria wird wenn wir es wie es in der Japanischen Version so war bekommen, als DLC Kaufbar sein aber wann weis niemand.
    Wird wahrscheinlich 7-10€ extra kosten. Plachta ist nicht verfügbar aus Gründen die ich nicht Spoilern will, kann aber sagen es ist was tolles!
    Das Craft System wurde nochmal ein ganzes Stück verbessert und man kann jetzt schon zu beginn richtig Gute Sachen craften wenn man weis was zu tun ist, denn das Craft System ist so komplex wie immer.
    Die Kampffelder in den Gemälden haben Feldeffekte welche z. b. 50% mehr Schaden auf Skills gibt.
    Die LP die es bei Erkundungen in Atelier Firis Gab? Die sind weg und das ist auch gut so.
    Man kann jetzt sogar von jeder Map und Dungeon jederzeit zurück ins Atelier gehen, was Erkunden eine Ecke einfacher macht.
    Bei Cornelia kann man später immer seine verbrauchten Items auffüllen was zwar schön und gut ist, aber SEHR kosten spielig werden wird, insbesondere mit sehr gut ge-crafteten Items, Die Figur aus Atelier Firis war da um längen besser.
    Und genauso wie in Atelier Firis kann man die BGM Packs der alten Atelier Spiele runterladen und jegliche Tracks mit denen ersetzen im Spiel was etwas ist das ich absolut geliebt habe in Atelier Firis!
    Mein Tipp für dieses Spiel? Kauft es euch in 2 Monaten wenn alle Updates draussen sind, dann wird das Spiel nochmal eine ganze Ecke angenehmer werden und vielleicht sogar billiger!

    Meine Meinung zu diesem Atelier?
    7.5/10 Punkten, Gut, Durchschnittliches Atelier Game welches Viel Spaß macht aber auch seine Frustmomente hat; Gründe siehe oben.

    Ich erwarte etwas mehr beim nächsten Atelier Game wann auch immer das sein wird!
    Aber vieleicht bin Ich auch zu sehr verwöhnt mit Atelier Firis und Atelier Meruru.    … Expand

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Mixed or average reviews - based on 24 Critic Reviews

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  1. Gaming Age
    May 25, 2018
    67
    Atelier Lydie & Suelle fits right in with the franchise’s tendency towards quiet, solid competence — and, it should be added, it looks much better than it ever has on the Vita. Personally, though, it has me certain that wherever the series goes next, I’m only going to follow it if I can play it on a handheld.
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  2. GameCritics
    May 14, 2018
    90
    The map aside, this is yet another great title in the Atelier series. The stakes are high, the characters are likeable, and the gameplay is as good as it’s ever been. Every year I approach the newest Atelier game with a little trepidation – will this be the year they screw it up? Will the streak finally end? But for at least one more year, the answer is no. Gust has again delivered another fantastic JRPG that does the series proud.
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  3. Eurogamer Italy
    Apr 23, 2018
    60
    Atelier Lydie & Suelle: The Alchemists and the Mysterious Paintings is a role-playing videogame developed by Gust, with a turn based combat system. It does not introduce many innovations to the series, but is nicely inspired by classics in a nostalgic and vintage way.
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