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  1. Aug 27, 2023
    5
    Got this game recommended as a replacement for Diablo 4. As in progression, it is miles better than Diablo4, but that's pretty low of a bar to cross. The pay to progress aspect is so strong in this game, I wouldn't recommend any one in the right mind play this game. You will be constantly stressed and given a way out by the cash shop they flash constantly flash at you. Some vids notesGot this game recommended as a replacement for Diablo 4. As in progression, it is miles better than Diablo4, but that's pretty low of a bar to cross. The pay to progress aspect is so strong in this game, I wouldn't recommend any one in the right mind play this game. You will be constantly stressed and given a way out by the cash shop they flash constantly flash at you. Some vids notes people claiming to spend up to 100k or more in this game which seems possible with how they try to mask how much they are actually spending to upgrade gears. How is ARPG this bad in 2023? Expand
  2. Aug 22, 2023
    7
    Todo muy bien, pero..

    Hombre que este es un juegaso, la historia va bien, bastante bien de hecho (tampoco es la mejor historia del año pero para un MMO bien). Graficamente es muy bonito, me encanta los detalles en los jefes y lo bien definido de cada personaje con los que me tope en la historia. Lo que si es que almenos me pasa con la clase que uso, que veo que todas las espadas que
    Todo muy bien, pero..

    Hombre que este es un juegaso, la historia va bien, bastante bien de hecho (tampoco es la mejor historia del año pero para un MMO bien).
    Graficamente es muy bonito, me encanta los detalles en los jefes y lo bien definido de cada personaje con los que me tope en la historia. Lo que si es que almenos me pasa con la clase que uso, que veo que todas las espadas que voy encontrando son basicamente la misma (hablando de su forma) y eso aveces le baja un punto, haber pordrian ponerse y hacer 1000 diseños de espadas, que tampoco se pide la gran cosa.
    A nivel gameplay creo que esta muy bien, bien organizado aunque tienes que aprender a jugar y aveces es complicado es completamente entendible y no es dificil realmente. Me encanta tambien que cada enemigo tenga sus ataques y caracteristicas, ni hablar de los jefes que cambian sus patrones a medida que van perdiendo vida, realmente una pasada. Este es el lugar donde mas desarrollare por que hay que tocar muchos puntos como los anteriores que me parecen los mas primordiales, tambien cabe destacar que solo use la clase Berseker (con espada) y que quedan otras tantas por probar y ver, sin contar las builds que se pueden armar y demas. Realmente es un juego muy interesante y que cada jugador puede moldear a su gusto. Los dungeon, me gustaron mucho la verdad, tanto los del modo historia como los secretos (no recuerdo el nombre que le dan en el juego) y recomiendo hacerlos en dificil, no en normal, si son complicados aveces pero la recompensa es bastante buena siempre. Para cerrar la parte de gameplay veo que muchos se quejan del grindeo, y bueno es un MMO si no te gusta grindear creo que te equivocaste de genero no?
    En cuanto a optimizacion creo que esta bastante bien, el juego es fluido y no hay practicamente lag, lo cual se agradece muchisimo en estos juegos (eso que mi Internet es 3er mundista) aunque si se toma algo de tiempo en entrar al juego lo cual se soluciona iniciando y haciendo algo mientras carga (ir a el baño, llenar el vaso con coca o algo asi) tampoco es que tarde media hora pero aveces se toma unos minutos.

    En conclusión, creo que es un buen juego y aun teniendo una PC no tan buena si les gustan los MMO tendrian que darle a este una oportunidad, es gratis y a mi almenos me gusto mucho.
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  3. Aug 16, 2023
    7
    Nice game, fun to play, hard to master. I really loved this game. I stopped becaude he need too much Time or money to be competitive
  4. Aug 13, 2023
    4
    It's a good game with horrible P2W systems. Pretty much what you would expect from every MMO these days. If you want to RMT or P2W through the store, this game can be really fun. If you want to be a F2P player like I was, you are too late and you will always be behind. Go try a newly released MMO instead.
  5. Aug 11, 2023
    0
    Disgusting P2W game of the worst kind. Think Diablo Immoral.

    Has multiple layers of P2W elements designed to force you to pay up, or else you cannot even access the end-game contents.

    Only other option is to grind on 6 characters like it's your 2nd job. Oh wait, no, like it's your only job.

    Stay far, far away from this garbage game.
  6. Aug 8, 2023
    0
    Lost Ark falls short of its promise as a captivating MMORPG. Despite its visually stunning graphics, the game suffers from repetitive quests and a lackluster storyline that fails to engage players. The combat, while initially exciting, quickly becomes monotonous and lacks depth. Additionally, the game's monetization practices heavily favor pay-to-win mechanics, creating an unfair advantageLost Ark falls short of its promise as a captivating MMORPG. Despite its visually stunning graphics, the game suffers from repetitive quests and a lackluster storyline that fails to engage players. The combat, while initially exciting, quickly becomes monotonous and lacks depth. Additionally, the game's monetization practices heavily favor pay-to-win mechanics, creating an unfair advantage for those willing to spend real money. Expand
  7. Jul 29, 2023
    10
    El mejor proyecto de MMO de la historia. Una pena que los desarrolladores piensen que somos esclavos.

    Ojalá cambien las cosas en un futuro cercano.
  8. Jul 11, 2023
    5
    SKIP SKIP SKIP G, G, G, Exp->Mapa ( repetir * 40hrs) = LOST ARK
    A ver el juego visualmente esta bonito.
    yo he jugado muchoooooos MMORPG y entiendo que este tiene bastante contenido y cosas que hacer y literalmente es un tutorial del 1 al lvl 50. PERO NO LO RECOMIENDO PARA: 1-Los que buscan un juego para jugar con amigos: aquí literalmente es para frikis solo player. de las 41hrs no
    SKIP SKIP SKIP G, G, G, Exp->Mapa ( repetir * 40hrs) = LOST ARK
    A ver el juego visualmente esta bonito.
    yo he jugado muchoooooos MMORPG y entiendo que este tiene bastante contenido y cosas que hacer y literalmente es un tutorial del 1 al lvl 50.

    PERO NO LO RECOMIENDO PARA:
    1-Los que buscan un juego para jugar con amigos: aquí literalmente es para frikis solo player. de las 41hrs no encuentro contenido para jugar con mis amigos. matar enemigos te da 1 de EXP. a lo mejor para completar tomos del aventurero pero aun así no hay dungeons mas que los que te van abriendo del quest.... estoy esperando el lvl50 para ver si puedo jugar los dungeons con mis amigos... pero me estoy cansando de tanto quest.
    2- Los que no disfrutan historias lineales: A ver yo la verdad solo que son 7 arcas lo demás me lo voy SKIP SKIP SKIP G G G G G dame mi EXP Nuevo mapa y repetitivamente lo mismo hasta asumo que llegar al lvl 50.
    3- hasta el momento el juego me ha presentado 0 dificultad todo se pasa rapido y sin mucha complicacion ( entiendo que porque no estoy en el endgame que seguro comienza lo hardcore.
    4- Si nunca has jugado un MMORPG, no te recomiendo este juego es un nuevo estilo al genero a lo que tradicionalmente es.

    LO RECOMIENDO PARA:
    1- SOLO PLAYERS, si tienes tiempo de sobra sin mujer e hijos ni trabajo muy bien. pero los que tenemos 2-3 horas al día para jugar meh.
    2- Si te gusta "Diablo, Path of exile" etc etc te va gustar.

    Dato curioso: Si ven los Achievements apenas el 1% ha llegado al lvl 10 en tala y pesca ( cosa que hice en un par de horas...). asi que ahorita es puro hype.

    Aspectos positivos:
    Extrañamente me gusta el sistema de farming lo han echo genial dan ganas de pasar leveliando las skills de Tala, Mineria, Caceria, Runas etc.
    Aspecto negativo:
    Nuevamente el echo que tus primeras 50 horas no las vas a jugar con amigos y si es un MMO pero solo ves players haciendo los mismos quest en el server pero nada relevante mas que uno que otro random boss de algún mapa cercano.

    llego al endgame y veo si cambio mi review....pero bueno es lo que pienso.
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  9. Jun 20, 2023
    0
    This Game is fk **** and Racist Not have SEA server lol from RElease until now there is no Sea server and laways Region Lock
  10. Feb 18, 2023
    0
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. С открытия игра была великолепна. Хорошая графика, интересный сюжет. Но сейчас это просто трата времени. PVP просто не сбалансировано, персонажи сильно отличаются по урону. Сами игроки испортили игру. Те, кто уже имеет всё, завышают цены на товары в аукционе. В итоге новичку очень трудно как-то собрать себе хорошего персонажа, но фишка в том, что без хорошего персонажа тебя не будут брать в рейды. Даже если ты знаешь все механики босса, но у тебя нет полного сета, или плохо с гравировками, или самоцветов нет, или колоды нет, тебя не возьмут! А возьмут собранного человека, который так же не мог зайти в рейд и покупал проходки. В итоге человек не знает, что вообще делать и его берут с собранным персонажем, а тебя нет, потому что ты не собрал персонажа. И можно конечно покупать проходки этих рейдов и забыть про этот факт, но это же RPG, где совместная игра? В проходках? Пока ты чай пьёшь, а кто-то за тебя побеждает босса? Ещё игра очень зависима от твинов, ведь от них весь основной заработок ресурсов и голды. И по моему, это ужасно! В общем: старички ставят цены как хотят, а точнее высокую (есть гравировки 4-го уровня по 5к голды, их надо 20. И ГДЕ брать новичку 100к голды только на одну граву? Это несколько месяцев фарма без твинов... Ещё вторая гравировка и бижутерия в основном покупается, потому что рандом здесь искусственно занижен ненужными гравировками. Так же проводки покупаются, ибо без собранного персонажа тебя просто не возьмут. Старички играют на куче твинов, тем самым делают проводки и фармят ещё больше голды, чтобы купить дорогую вещь у такого же старичка, это по мне уже никуда не лезет. В итоге: игру крайне не советую, если у вас нет 7 друзей, готовых пойти с вами в игру надолго, с ними и будете проходить активности. Expand
  11. Jan 15, 2023
    1
    Be warned about this game. They will issue bans if you don't play. Many players got the game for free on steam, realized it wasn't the game for them, and quit playing. Now the developers have issued gamewide bans for inactive players, which shows up as a red mark on you steam profile. Further more, there are a number of other steam games that won't let you play if you have a ban. If youBe warned about this game. They will issue bans if you don't play. Many players got the game for free on steam, realized it wasn't the game for them, and quit playing. Now the developers have issued gamewide bans for inactive players, which shows up as a red mark on you steam profile. Further more, there are a number of other steam games that won't let you play if you have a ban. If you have a old steam account with thousands of hours and dollars invested, do not get this game unless you are prepared for a ban. Expand
  12. Jan 14, 2023
    6
    Review só pra lembrar a nota que dei pro jogo:
    Jogo bonito, muitas coisas para fazer, jogabilidade incrível (na minha opinião a melhor dos MMO's atuais), porém com muita microtransação e "moedas"do jogo que poderiam ser substituidas facilmente por outras já existentes.
  13. Jan 6, 2023
    0
    To anyone reading this: Quit this game as soon as you can!
    There's nothing more to say. This is not a "game", this is a job!
    You're working your ass off for nothing.
    I was fortunate enough to quit this game just a couple weeks after release and decided to make this review to warn others who are considering to play this game: don't do it!
  14. Jan 6, 2023
    5
    After playing it for around 600+ hours I can say that I can't recommend the game to anyone.
    Combat is really good, every character feels good to play.
    Grinding is the worst and wont be fixed ever together with honing which is upgrading your equipment. It would take you 16 hrs per day with 8 char so that you can have a chance to succeed in a upgrade cause since it's a korean mmo and the
    After playing it for around 600+ hours I can say that I can't recommend the game to anyone.
    Combat is really good, every character feels good to play.
    Grinding is the worst and wont be fixed ever together with honing which is upgrading your equipment. It would take you 16 hrs per day with 8 char so that you can have a chance to succeed in a upgrade cause since it's a korean mmo and the upgrades drop as low as 0.5% success rate or you can pay money to have extra tries.
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  15. Jan 1, 2023
    7
    very good mmo, though it costs a lot of time
    sometimes its better watching streams than playing
  16. Dec 4, 2022
    8
    Unglaublich, wie viel Liebe in diesem Spiel steckt. Ich kann nicht verstehen, wie das Game so eine schlechte User Wertung bekommen kann... aber bei MMORPGS kommt direkt der Hate bei Queue Times oder wenn es "keinen Content" mehr gibt. Ich habe in 2 Monaten fast 250 Stunden reingesteckt und das Spiel ist F2P! Man muss kein Echtgeld ausgeben, und wenn man einen 50ziger investiert, ist esUnglaublich, wie viel Liebe in diesem Spiel steckt. Ich kann nicht verstehen, wie das Game so eine schlechte User Wertung bekommen kann... aber bei MMORPGS kommt direkt der Hate bei Queue Times oder wenn es "keinen Content" mehr gibt. Ich habe in 2 Monaten fast 250 Stunden reingesteckt und das Spiel ist F2P! Man muss kein Echtgeld ausgeben, und wenn man einen 50ziger investiert, ist es doch völlig in Ordnung. Als Hack n Slay Fan einfach ein unterhaltsames Spiel und setzt in Sachen on Top MMORPGS neue Maßstäbe. Jetzt muss sich Riot ran halten - das wird nicht leicht zu toppen sein! Expand
  17. Nov 30, 2022
    4
    Bu kadar iyi kordine olman gerekiyor. Tanımadığım insanlarla neden oynayayım, yada oynamak zorunda olayım.
  18. Nov 27, 2022
    7
    Me encantó, llegue tarde a los rpg, aun asi este es un juegazo, los mapas me gustaron mucho, no lo terminé pq al principio le di demasiado y me cansé.
  19. Oct 18, 2022
    5
    10 points for Smilegate
    -5 points for Amazon
    Amazon is actively working with bot farms to scam investors it would seem
  20. Oct 8, 2022
    6
    Lost Ark is a good game to play long term if you:
    1. Enjoy **VERY** mechanics focused difficult multi player weekly content as your main content to work towards.
    2. Can form a static group to do said content with each week. 3. Are addicted to making alts in the games you play. 4. Have lots of time to spend playing to grind for equipment enhancement/honing materials, or are willing to
    Lost Ark is a good game to play long term if you:
    1. Enjoy **VERY** mechanics focused difficult multi player weekly content as your main content to work towards.
    2. Can form a static group to do said content with each week.
    3. Are addicted to making alts in the games you play.
    4. Have lots of time to spend playing to grind for equipment enhancement/honing materials, or are willing to spend real money for them.

    If the first two of those four things in particular do not match up with you, or what you want from the games you play, it can impact your enjoyment so significantly, it would be best to not even bother downloading the game. Honestly, in many ways this kinda felt like an isometric version of Blade & Soul, as both are built around difficult mechanics heavy weekly group content, with dull daily grind content, and have a toxic elitist player base.

    In regards to number one, they have mechanics during fights where you stop fighting, to execute a mini-game, like a typing test, or leading a thing, to another thing, under certain conditions. These sort of "mechanics" mostly come up in the later weekly content, and to an increasing degree with each new piece of such content they add.

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    Some added notes:
    A. The game could really use some form of solo training tool for its weekly raid/dungeon content, as it can do a poor job of relaying how you should handle mechanics. This is why there's so many detailed guides on how to do things, but really the game should be teaching people how to play, it's not the community's job to do that. This is also why you need a static group to do that content with, it just gets more demanding over time, complete with raid wipe mechanics if even one person made a mistake, so what should be a twenty minute piece of content, instead can take hours to complete with teams of random players.

    B. Because of how mechanics heavy things are, explaining things can take a lot of time, so people don't want to do that, and just expect others to know how to do everything. As a result, it's not long after new content is added before about all you see in the party finder is people looking to do fast runs with experienced players, or just selling the service of AFK carrying people through content, as many try doing that as their way of getting loot from them.

    C. If you think you can power up your character, then face roll everything, you're very wrong. There are plenty of mechanics that will kill you, and maybe even the whole raid if even one person screws up, no matter how geared people are.

    D. Most every active player at the time this was written has at least one character with a gear score of at least 1415. Due to this there's a fair amount of content below that which is basically dead now, particularly guardian raids, field/world bosses, chaos gates, and ghost ships. Except for guardian raids, they do not scale with the number of people there, so you just can't expect to do them solo, and can be wasting your time even trying. Some higher level people will do the lower weekly dungeons for a chance at card drops, which results in you just chasing them around as they insta kill everything, even bosses. Then a lot of the people queuing up for the sub 1415 guardian raids these days, honestly suck, and tend to be rather under geared. End result is your experience in multiplayer content below 1415 can be pretty poor, meaning you'll be playing mostly solo for a long time.

    E. The daily resource grind content, gets really boring/annoying, pretty quickly, and there's a fair number of things seemingly added solely to waste time.

    F. If you're more of a solo player, don't bother. While the daily grind content is a mostly solo experience, the weekly raid content can only be even attempted with a group. There is just no recurring solo content that will be able to keep your attention, or is worth working towards.

    G. The standard equipment upgrade system has a type of pity system, so if you fail enough times, it will just give you the upgrade. Basically if you stick with it, you can have your entire account stuffed full of characters with their equipment at a high, to max upgrade level.

    H. A good chunk of the player base is pretty toxic, and elitist, or just want to be carried through everything, and can't be bothered to look things up on their own before hand, as they expect people to explain mechanics to them, and so on.
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  21. Oct 7, 2022
    5
    If you are used to MMO with proper rotations in depth mechanisms, you just pass on Lost Ark.
    The combats are especially messy, and it is targeted to Asian audience, who loves grinding. Anything to do in Lost Ark takes forever, and you spend more time waiting than playing (shipping from island to island). There is no real story, and I skipped every single dialogue in this game.
  22. Sep 25, 2022
    1
    Soulless game. It's a cash grab with some nice flashy graphics and original animations, that's really it.
  23. Sep 2, 2022
    7
    Review con polemica . El juego es una pasada si te gusta el genero pero manejaron tan mal el lanzamiento con el tema de los servers que me veo obligado a bajarle un poco la nota.
  24. Aug 22, 2022
    0
    Sold my acc, now i feels not like slave in p2w trash swamp =) Played about half year with russian version and spend about 300$ like it was nothing. Very toxic community, gated content weekly and daylie, bots and RMT or boosters/carries spammers. I feel sorry for new owner of my acc((
  25. Aug 22, 2022
    6
    I just couldn't get into it. I tried but it just lacked "life" and a "soul"?
  26. Aug 21, 2022
    0
    Truly one of the best examples of the decline in modern gaming. This game is a casino with a mobile ARPG wrapped around it, nothing more, do not be fooled into thinking it's something it very clearly isn't. Flashy graphics, anime **** all of the usual low-brow nonsense typically used to attract the younger or lower IQ gamers, you'll find it all here. If you want to donate your paychecks toTruly one of the best examples of the decline in modern gaming. This game is a casino with a mobile ARPG wrapped around it, nothing more, do not be fooled into thinking it's something it very clearly isn't. Flashy graphics, anime **** all of the usual low-brow nonsense typically used to attract the younger or lower IQ gamers, you'll find it all here. If you want to donate your paychecks to a Korean cash cow and Amazon Bezos, be my guest, I'll be taking my gaming time elsewhere. Expand
  27. Aug 5, 2022
    0
    A game designed only to retain your progression, and pay to an hellish indefinitely endgame. The worst of it, its that they say its not a pay to win game.
  28. Jul 24, 2022
    10
    This is one of my favourite games I have played so far. Fun combat, great graphics, big world to explore.
  29. Jul 18, 2022
    0
    very boring story, Overhyped advertising, zero depth at all to the combat, UI is messy, Lot of bots, this is cheap p2w mobile game.
  30. Jul 12, 2022
    0
    This game is an obvious p2w game and i dont really understand the people who call this game p2w-free and f2p friendly. Progression is built in a very similar way that is used in diablo immortal which has 0.3 user score out of 10. omg it is really hard to understand the people that used positive vote the game is literally grbage and urges you to pay for every little aspect. If you are notThis game is an obvious p2w game and i dont really understand the people who call this game p2w-free and f2p friendly. Progression is built in a very similar way that is used in diablo immortal which has 0.3 user score out of 10. omg it is really hard to understand the people that used positive vote the game is literally grbage and urges you to pay for every little aspect. If you are not support and wanting to join a raid gl in coping with whales. Other trash aspect is the poorness of the market system omg its literally worst of all mmorpgs and is dominated solely by whales. If you are not slave go play another mmorpg Expand
  31. Jul 3, 2022
    2
    You spend 90% of your play time on literal trash content. All you do is walk from a to b, emote, kill things, emote, emote, emote again. It gets so bad that in certain quests you just have to stay 3 minutes in one place with nothing happening. Im not making this up. And all for what? Just so you can enjoy a bit of raiding. If you dont do the massive amount of chores you will fall behind.You spend 90% of your play time on literal trash content. All you do is walk from a to b, emote, kill things, emote, emote, emote again. It gets so bad that in certain quests you just have to stay 3 minutes in one place with nothing happening. Im not making this up. And all for what? Just so you can enjoy a bit of raiding. If you dont do the massive amount of chores you will fall behind. This complaint is just the tip of the iceberg. There are so many questionable things made in this game I wonder if this was made by Aliens.

    Do not play this garbage. If you really want to play an mmo just go with ff14, gw2 or TESO. Even if they all are showing their age they are worth my time compared to Lost Ark.
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  32. Jun 28, 2022
    0
    Payto Progress schrott ja ist kein pay2win aber es ist pay2progress das genauso schlimm
    im pvp sind alle gleich ja aber nur bei arena pvp auf insel ist auch p2w china schrott hab 200 h gespielt und kann es nicht empfehelen
  33. Jun 27, 2022
    8
    Great combat sysytem, nice mmo mechanics. The only thing I dislike about the game is that progression is RNG based. Besides that, the game is very good.
  34. Jun 25, 2022
    8
    Demons are invading your world of Arkesia. Cities and settlements being destroyed and countless deaths. They are searching for hidden relics of the past called Arks. Arks are the only thing with the power to defeat the darkness and bring balance to Arkesia. Hired as a bodyguard for a group of treasure hunters, you stumble your way into fate’s hands. Are you the hero who can find the lostDemons are invading your world of Arkesia. Cities and settlements being destroyed and countless deaths. They are searching for hidden relics of the past called Arks. Arks are the only thing with the power to defeat the darkness and bring balance to Arkesia. Hired as a bodyguard for a group of treasure hunters, you stumble your way into fate’s hands. Are you the hero who can find the lost arks?
    A free-to-play massively multiplayer online action role playing game (MMOARPG) that released in the east in 2019. Through a partnership with developers and Amazon, a western release was put into the works and came out last month with a huge success.
    To start because it will be brought up to anyone who talks about Lost Ark. If it's free-to-play, does that mean it's pay-to-win? In short, Yes. If you are the type of gamer who wants to just throw your credit card on a game to rush to the end content, you can do that. But that will not take away the enjoyment of a game for others who choose to play without dropping loads of cash.
    With the build up to the launch of Lost Ark, I ignored the hype because I didn’t think it would interest me. Knowing most free to play games offer a little enjoyment but quickly fall off for other games. The day of launch I watched a couple streamers play the game and after a couple hours of background watching I figured I would tip the toe into the water…not knowing I would be sucked in and loving every minute.
    I describe Lost Ark as a melting pot. It takes game themes from across the field and implements them in a great way all into one game. The story is good and captivating through Arkesia. Big cinematic events happening through the quest lines of different lands. The world is beautiful and a treat to explore by land or sea.
    In combat you will easily be swarmed by monsters and feel the legion breathing down your neck but your skill set of flashy (anime-esque/diablo) moves will make you feel like an unstoppable badass. Blood and gore splattering across the detailed environments while you collect your loot.
    You want Monster Hunter? They have Guardian Raids. Solo or a party of 4 can take on a variety of difficult guardians that limit normal functions in the game. Limited amount of revives/items while also adding in a time constraint to push your team. Too many mistakes with accidental deaths and it’s a failure.
    Do you want challenging content? Abyssal dungeons/raids that focus more on a boss's mechanics than standing around swinging a sword aimlessly. For example the second dungeon has a necromancer and if you fail to collect the correct orbs, he will revive and receive an increase to his abilities making the fighter harder and harder. Kill him all you want, but if you can't communicate or understand a fight, you won’t survive.
    You want to make multiple characters because of all the neat classes? Lost Ark is extremely alt friendly. Separate from character level there is an accumulated roster level for your account. Most rewards will be gained on one character but forever shared with your roster. It's even designed for alternate characters to do daily or basic activities to funnel materials to your main character for vertical progression of gear.
    You want to fight other players? It has PVP combat that is designed to equalize gear and abilities when you enter into the arena. To balance players on a similar battlefield giving anyone a fighting chance.
    On the other spectrum of horizontal content, there is an abundance. Varies collection systems with separate reward tracks to keep any completionist busy. A card system that captures the feeling of opening random packs in a real life trading card game. I get side tracked more with horizontal systems. I forget I need to improve my gear and advance through the story. It's rare for a game to nail that to such a degree.
    The game isn't perfect by any definition. It has small flaws depending on the type of gamer you see yourself as. If racing to the end game is your cup of tea it will be a long process because upgrading your gear is a grind. Coming into the game new with no understanding of the systems is overwhelming. These systems came out slowly in Korea over the games development and with the western release we received them all at once. A little bit of reading or youtube videos can help give you the fundamentals of how the systems work.
    For what the game has delivered, I am hooked. I'm close to reaching over 200 hours with the game only being out for a little over a month. I'm in for the long haul and excited to see more classes and cosmetics to be released into the game. I still have story quests to work through and the collections are keeping me itching to find the next hidden seed of Arkesia.
    Story: 8 / 10
    Gameplay: 10 / 10
    Visual/Audio: 9 / 10
    Entertainment: 9 / 10
    Controls: 7 / 10
    Final Grade: A
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  35. Jun 25, 2022
    0
    I will always be against any pay-to-win games! we need better games we don't need this to be a standard in new games now!
  36. Jun 16, 2022
    4
    Modern pay 2 win at it's finest. Make no mistake, there's a solid game hidden behind layers and layers of multiple currencies, systems and the usage of every single psychological trick in the book to make sure you trow money into the game.

    The game is designed so a free 2 play player can actually catch up to the whales... at least for a while, until they eventually realize that 20$
    Modern pay 2 win at it's finest. Make no mistake, there's a solid game hidden behind layers and layers of multiple currencies, systems and the usage of every single psychological trick in the book to make sure you trow money into the game.

    The game is designed so a free 2 play player can actually catch up to the whales... at least for a while, until they eventually realize that 20$ could save them another 300 hours long catch up grind like your average mobile ARPG.

    In typical Amazon fashion, it's customer support is bellow mediocre, that without mentioning automatic bans and censoring on it's steam community, reddit and official forums.

    Stay away from this, you deserve a game that respects your time and wallet.
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  37. Jun 16, 2022
    0
    Steam and Amazon abusing and unfair policies targeting innocent users. A clear example of this is "untrusted accounts" policy, resulting characters in those accounts're forbidden to trade, send items by mail, etc., or generate an extra amount of gold needed to can grow them. Once an account is targeted, according to these companies criteria, as suspicious (without any proves which can showSteam and Amazon abusing and unfair policies targeting innocent users. A clear example of this is "untrusted accounts" policy, resulting characters in those accounts're forbidden to trade, send items by mail, etc., or generate an extra amount of gold needed to can grow them. Once an account is targeted, according to these companies criteria, as suspicious (without any proves which can show that user's fault), that user won't ever be able to arrange and change that status. Even if the person has made "x" purchases as they requested, even if that person has accomplished all the requirements they stated, nothing will serve. Once an account is targeted, that person will go round between Amazon and Steam and none of them will do anything to arrange something they promoted an unfair way, they will never intend to solve anything. There're only walls and more walls, and a kind of costumer service which is, by default, useless. The worst support I've seen in my life. Useless to spend time playing something that is dead in advance. These companies behaviour is shameful and scandalous.

    PS: while these companies're wasting efforts and resources in clean accounts, the true guilty running bots keep on rushing their way freely in servers, and an even higher amount of them can be seen here and there (even in places where they weren't seen before). Absolutely wonderful xd.
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  38. Jun 12, 2022
    0
    This game is unplayable on NA servers. There's over 10,000k queue on the weekends and you need to wait over an hour to even log in to play a game. They should be paying me money for wasting my time waiting in queues. Good luck trying to play at your convenience.
  39. Jun 12, 2022
    3
    No Ayaya until 2023.

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  40. Jun 11, 2022
    0
    Muy buen juego, pero desde hace semanas AGS no han podido parar a los BOTS, las personas vendiendo RMT o tener los cojos de banear permanente a este tipo de personas que causan daño a la economía del juego. Es increible a la 2da semana de valtan ya exista gente con armas +25 reliquias y con un nivel de fortaleza o elenco que da mucha risa. Lo mismo paso con New World. No lo recomiendo aMuy buen juego, pero desde hace semanas AGS no han podido parar a los BOTS, las personas vendiendo RMT o tener los cojos de banear permanente a este tipo de personas que causan daño a la economía del juego. Es increible a la 2da semana de valtan ya exista gente con armas +25 reliquias y con un nivel de fortaleza o elenco que da mucha risa. Lo mismo paso con New World. No lo recomiendo a mis amigos, al menos por ahora. Expand
  41. Jun 11, 2022
    0
    P2W, predatory, daily and weekly limited content, intentionally insanely grindy and you are constantly reminded that the best way to play this ''game'' is to act as if you're playing in a casino with slot machines, go to work even in a 2nd world country with min wage, spend your money to progress 6 times faster than any f2p who doesn't break TOS and enjoy being addicted to gambling, TheyP2W, predatory, daily and weekly limited content, intentionally insanely grindy and you are constantly reminded that the best way to play this ''game'' is to act as if you're playing in a casino with slot machines, go to work even in a 2nd world country with min wage, spend your money to progress 6 times faster than any f2p who doesn't break TOS and enjoy being addicted to gambling, They hired entire psychologists to research how to get people addicted, to come back every single day/week because ''it's in their best interest'' and to always prefer spending and working over playing the actual game. Expand
  42. Jun 10, 2022
    0
    the long wait for this game just to have to play with VPN and then see it gets boring super fast

    the bot invasion was fun tho
  43. Jun 10, 2022
    1
    What this game does well is decent combat copied from other games like Tera or FF14 for example, while appearing like a Diablo clone. It's a pretty game graphically.

    What it does poorly and insidiously, is its time gating, its RNG systems, its player progression, and its predatory monetization. 7 different currencies, confusing skill engraving upgrades, RNG ability upgrading, RNG gear
    What this game does well is decent combat copied from other games like Tera or FF14 for example, while appearing like a Diablo clone. It's a pretty game graphically.

    What it does poorly and insidiously, is its time gating, its RNG systems, its player progression, and its predatory monetization. 7 different currencies, confusing skill engraving upgrades, RNG ability upgrading, RNG gear honing with ever decreasing success rates. It is game designed to frustrate and exploit in order for you spend hundreds in not thousands of dollars.

    Just another Korean MMO to stay away from.
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  44. jna
    Jun 10, 2022
    5
    Lost Ark has too many aggressive methods to make you stay in the game and/or spend money in the game. Every system integrated are based around consuming these two from you. Game is incredibly abrasive when it comes to your time. You will find the most loyal players call LA "alt-friendly", however it is in actuality "alt-mandatory". At this point in the game there is no way to realisticallyLost Ark has too many aggressive methods to make you stay in the game and/or spend money in the game. Every system integrated are based around consuming these two from you. Game is incredibly abrasive when it comes to your time. You will find the most loyal players call LA "alt-friendly", however it is in actuality "alt-mandatory". At this point in the game there is no way to realistically reach the hardest content in the game within reasonable time unless you have several characters that you must farm daily/weekly with to feed your "main", or if you spend real money.

    The hardest content in the game is what makes the MMO part of the game amazing. This alone almost makes it worth sinking your life into depravity for. Unfortunately this part of the game, which is the most fun, is weekly content; which means the rest of the week your main content is being a farm-bot.

    If you are a new player looking to start today then keep in mind that it will take some time before you reach what the community generally perceive as fun, good and relevant. To put things into perspective for you, I have invested at least 1-2 hours farming the daily content since a week after launch. I am still at least a week behind before being able to do Valtan Hardmode (newest content at this time).

    The game will occasionally give you items (powerpass) that will speed you through the processes of reaching end game. However, as for today there is nothing in place for new players to progress faster. With that in mind if you start today, do not expect to reach late end-game before a month at the very earliest, and that being extremely generous.

    This is the worst time for new players to start the game and in all likeliness the progress you would do now would be diminished by the fact of a buff/boost is imminent to come likely in mid or late July.
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  45. Jun 10, 2022
    4
    P2W as hell, once you do adventure tomes - there's really nothing left to do but boring daily chaos dungeons and what not. Bots, poor feature unlocking for NA/EU (Summoner was original launch class on every region, also was in beta, but will be available 2023?..) and more bots.
  46. Jun 9, 2022
    1
    At the core the gameplay feels good BUT Amazon games and Smilegate are ignoring all the player feedback and driving the game more and more towards pay to win.

    Also the bots are a HUGE problem.
  47. Jun 9, 2022
    0
    It is a terrible and heavily monetized cash grab.
    The game is also filled with hundreds of thousands of bots, illegaly selling Gold to many players, and also full with cheaters and private bot users.

    AGS managed to drive yet another game in the ground...
  48. Jun 9, 2022
    0
    Start up very good, but after you reach the end game content, the game becomes a second job/chore
  49. Jun 9, 2022
    0
    The game has reached a state of no return and the company running it does not care about the players and has gone "full-profit" mode. They don't care to keep remaining players around and try to milk every dollar from whoever is addicted. There are 1000 bots to 1 player and it is disgusting to walk around in the world. Terrible company ruining a game with so much potential.
  50. Jun 9, 2022
    0
    AGS is a plague to society is the worst publisher Smilegate could've chosen.
  51. Jun 9, 2022
    0
    Game turned into crazy pay to win after a few months intentionally removing buffs that help players and adding loot boxes.

    If you are not a whale i cant recommend this game...
  52. Jun 8, 2022
    4
    The story is pretty repetitive, the usual you’re an adventurer who has no goal whatsoever, also there are a lot ALOT of scenes where the evil character is about to shoot you and here comes the hero of the continent to save you, filled with fetch quest grab that thing place it 2 feet apart from me and then talk to a random guy who’s next to me, the game play is pretty fun but it gets boringThe story is pretty repetitive, the usual you’re an adventurer who has no goal whatsoever, also there are a lot ALOT of scenes where the evil character is about to shoot you and here comes the hero of the continent to save you, filled with fetch quest grab that thing place it 2 feet apart from me and then talk to a random guy who’s next to me, the game play is pretty fun but it gets boring after a while Expand
  53. Jun 7, 2022
    1
    LOST ARK is Pay-2-Win TRASH.

    Pretty much a MOBILE-Game on PC like DIABLO Immortal etc. Same P2W Mechanics, Same RNG systems, Same Psychology Tricks. Fast and Easy in the beginning, then more and more Pay-to-Win. Most of your time in Endgame will be doing pointless, repetitive tasks, same result, as someone who P2W can get in 1 / 10th of the time. You will NEVER have the best
    LOST ARK is Pay-2-Win TRASH.

    Pretty much a MOBILE-Game on PC like DIABLO Immortal etc.
    Same P2W Mechanics, Same RNG systems, Same Psychology Tricks.

    Fast and Easy in the beginning, then more and more Pay-to-Win.

    Most of your time in Endgame will be doing pointless, repetitive tasks,
    same result, as someone who P2W can get in 1 / 10th of the time.

    You will NEVER have the best gear, you will ALWAYS be behind.

    IT IS BY DESIGN.
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  54. Jun 7, 2022
    0
    Cash Grab Alt Simulator 2022.
    It really cannot be described any better than this.
  55. Jun 6, 2022
    3
    Fun combat, pretty visuals, a bit too easy and the story is bland as hell. "End" game tries to confuse you with systems and then cut your wallet. Can't give it larger than a 3 due to that. Non cosmetic micro transactions in gaming need to die. Period. Don't waste your time playing this
  56. May 17, 2022
    0
    Без фарма голды и заточки невозможно пройти даже сюжетку.
  57. May 12, 2022
    0
    - Can't rebind some keys. Unacceptable.

    - I can't choose the name I want, because all names are already taken - this is so 2000's, unacceptably outdated in 2022. - censored - stupid woke race changes - too much frustrating farming for FAILING upgrades - timers for everything! Wanna go to tha island now? NO! YOU CAN'T! Wait 3 hours and you'll have a 5 minute window to enter
    - Can't rebind some keys. Unacceptable.

    - I can't choose the name I want, because all names are already taken - this is so 2000's, unacceptably outdated in 2022.

    - censored

    - stupid woke race changes

    - too much frustrating farming for FAILING upgrades

    - timers for everything! Wanna go to tha island now? NO! YOU CAN'T! Wait 3 hours and you'll have a 5 minute window to enter it. Everything has a timer. You can't play at that hour? Sucks to be you!
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  58. May 11, 2022
    5
    Bom... o multiplayer desse jogo com certeza é espetacular! Finalmente um MMO que trouxe um PVP digno e diferente do padrão World of Warcrafr! Entretanto, todo o resto desse jogo é horrível! A história é tão ruim que é melhor fingir que não existe, os inimigos PVE são extremamente genéricos e as quests são chatas, repetitivas e sem sentido! Então, basicamente, é um jogo RUIM, OVERRATEDBom... o multiplayer desse jogo com certeza é espetacular! Finalmente um MMO que trouxe um PVP digno e diferente do padrão World of Warcrafr! Entretanto, todo o resto desse jogo é horrível! A história é tão ruim que é melhor fingir que não existe, os inimigos PVE são extremamente genéricos e as quests são chatas, repetitivas e sem sentido! Então, basicamente, é um jogo RUIM, OVERRATED mas...
    com um PVP muito bom.
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  59. May 11, 2022
    0
    Between predictible Amazon censorship, community managers who talk down to customers and are ban-happy, this is complete garbage experience. And the game itself is jut endless grind.
  60. May 7, 2022
    10
    Absolutely Free to Play and Free to Win!
    Story 10/10
    Gameplay 10/10
    Graphic 8/10
    Variety of content to have fun!
  61. May 7, 2022
    9
    I've spend thousands of hours in ARPGs and Lost Ark is so far the best I've played.

    * Smooth gameplay and skills like no similar game has * Incredible dungeons with original mechanics * Hours and hours of good story content * Impressive graphics * Great UI that offers almost everything you could ask for * Good leveling system. Early levels are easy and later ones take long. * You
    I've spend thousands of hours in ARPGs and Lost Ark is so far the best I've played.

    * Smooth gameplay and skills like no similar game has
    * Incredible dungeons with original mechanics
    * Hours and hours of good story content
    * Impressive graphics
    * Great UI that offers almost everything you could ask for
    * Good leveling system. Early levels are easy and later ones take long.
    * You need to grind. This is good, because players have something to do. Many kids these days don't understand that a grind at the end of an MMO is good. Otherwise the game just ends there and you silly people complain that there's nothing to do. You can only have one of these two and grinding is definitely better, especially when it's fun.

    The only thing I could complain about is there is no way to transfer between servers. They could make tranfers expensive, but it should be possible.
    And the PvP is really bad, because it relies too heavily on stun effects and there's no fluidity - exactly the opposite of PvE. One side is always on the ground taking damage and the first good stun often decides a fight, because it's not possible to get back up before they're dead.
    Which is actually an incredible waste, because the PvP modes in the game could be really fun.

    Opinions can differ, but if you give this game 0/10, you have no appreciation for what makes a good game and should go back to Candy Crush.
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  62. May 3, 2022
    10
    Don't let the clowns fool you guys. Once you reach the endgame, this is one of the most enjoyable games ever made. Slaying hordes of monsters is more satisfying than in Diablo and PVE-Content is pretty challenging (maybe too challenging for the kiddos here that give the game 0 because they need to "git gud"). This game is not pay2win... You only progress faster but eventually every playerDon't let the clowns fool you guys. Once you reach the endgame, this is one of the most enjoyable games ever made. Slaying hordes of monsters is more satisfying than in Diablo and PVE-Content is pretty challenging (maybe too challenging for the kiddos here that give the game 0 because they need to "git gud"). This game is not pay2win... You only progress faster but eventually every player will reach the content they desire over time. PVP does normalize characters to make it more fair -> no p2w.
    Giving this game less than a 5 is just ridiculous and shouldn't even be allowed. Even if you don't like it, objectively this is a solid game you can sink a lot of time in and enjoy the huge amount of content that is given players i.e. Chaos Dungeons, Raids, Hundres of Islands to explore, collectables, Waifus, Booba-Skins and more.
    Obviously this is not a perfect game but I'm still giving it a 10 because of all the clowns with their 0 rating.
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  63. Apr 29, 2022
    0
    If you don't pay, you have to suffer for many months.
    I'm sure this game definitely have no story writer because story is F
    +UI is F too

    Don't play lost ark. Play WOW,FF14 instead
  64. Apr 28, 2022
    2
    garbage guardians
    all rng(honing,island souls....)
    i don't recommand this game to you. if you still want to play this **** make sure dont spend any money on it
  65. Apr 28, 2022
    6
    Repetitive experience,story meh...nice combat,and ALOT of gold/boost seller spammers on chat and everywhere,alot people using bots for fishing and dungeons. 3-5 times weekly resets,server down,maintenances etc
  66. Apr 27, 2022
    4
    You spend most of the time doing boring side quest A to B quest endless, there's not point in killing enemies in this game rather that doing quest that are extremely boring and easy, 5 of exp for killing a monster really? Game looks beautiful, good appeal character customatization but uugh...
  67. Apr 16, 2022
    1
    This game is p2w.
    The leveling and questing is a formality to reach level 50 and end game content.
    The leveling and questing is incredibly mind numbing and boring; it seems procedurally generated. Don't be fooled by twitch streamers that are handed tons of materials and gold. There are so many categories in which to progress and level for f2p players. This game does NOT value your
    This game is p2w.
    The leveling and questing is a formality to reach level 50 and end game content.
    The leveling and questing is incredibly mind numbing and boring; it seems procedurally generated.
    Don't be fooled by twitch streamers that are handed tons of materials and gold.
    There are so many categories in which to progress and level for f2p players.
    This game does NOT value your time.
    This game appeals to whales just like a mobile game. The menus and UI feel like a mobile game.
    Whales and bots are the only player base this game has.
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  68. Apr 8, 2022
    0
    horrible pay to win **** game, not worth anyones time.
    the good graphics and combat mechanics wont hide the ugly truth.
  69. Apr 6, 2022
    3
    Abnormal growth balance, repetitive content and lack of content is a game that is eventually P2W. However, they give three points for showing an attitude that can be corrected.
  70. Apr 6, 2022
    0
    if you re looking mobile game, it's perfect , but boring mission, boring skills
  71. Apr 5, 2022
    8
    Very enjoyable mmo, the combat is the main draw. The story starts out decent but becomes boring quickly. There are some awesome cinematic cutscenes though. Class designs are all very good and I actually appreciate the way they incentivize alts. Some of the guardian raids have awful designs. 3/4 of them are good but about 1/4 are bad. They're still cool but have terrible designs fight wiseVery enjoyable mmo, the combat is the main draw. The story starts out decent but becomes boring quickly. There are some awesome cinematic cutscenes though. Class designs are all very good and I actually appreciate the way they incentivize alts. Some of the guardian raids have awful designs. 3/4 of them are good but about 1/4 are bad. They're still cool but have terrible designs fight wise like bad hit boxes, terrible visual clarity, or just bad mechanics. The game is totally playable f2p, but p2w options are there. Imo up to 1340 is totally good for f2p, but 1340-1370 is awful. Expand
  72. Apr 2, 2022
    0
    Over 700 hours played:

    - RNG is a crutch of bad design. This game heavily uses RNG in both vertical and horizontal progression systems, as well as in combat. The fundamental issue with RNG is that it's not something you can overcome with skill. You can't roll a pair of dice and skillfully get a 12. There's no mastery, no player growth. This is why it's lazy and boring. - A large number
    Over 700 hours played:

    - RNG is a crutch of bad design. This game heavily uses RNG in both vertical and horizontal progression systems, as well as in combat. The fundamental issue with RNG is that it's not something you can overcome with skill. You can't roll a pair of dice and skillfully get a 12. There's no mastery, no player growth. This is why it's lazy and boring.
    - A large number of QOL changes in the KR version were not ported to the global release. This would be like using Windows Vista when Windows 11 exists. If you're not going to go through the effort of making sure all of the improvements you've made over years and years are in the game, why release it in that broken state?
    - An utter lack of any attempt of regionalizing the game to a western audience. The systems in this game are "normal" for Korean MMOs, but most of these systems are considered abhorrent and terrible design in western markets. None of them was modified. The game does not respect your time. It's time gated like a mobile game (which the vast majority of people hate) with an incentive to swipe and swipe hard. This leads to an incredible demand for RMT for gold, which results in a huge amount of botting. AGS has done nothing about any of this. The game's fundamental design benefits RMTers so significantly that you're encouraged to do it, and this makes botting incredibly lucrative. Combine that with the fact that there's no cost for botters to make accounts and we now have a market that doesn't work and the only reasonable method of progress: spending enormous amounts of time doing virtually nothing or RMTing to instantly reach end-game.
    - Combat is clearly inspired by several games yet maintaining only the bad and zero of the good of those games. The isometric camera lock removes player control, the severe restriction on player mobility and poorly implemented netcode and indicators with bosses that simply spam their abilities with no real opportunity for players to do anything leads to a boring means of doing content: just outgear it. In MH you don't have an isometric lock and you have a lot more control. In DS you don't have an isometric lock and you have a lot more control. In Diablo you have an isometric lock, but bosses do not spam attacks and are much more interactive. The end result is that combat in this game feels like you're standing around doing nothing until you're "allowed" to attack. Systems like stagger and destruction are not well explained and in some cases aren't even visible to you. This is lightyears away from every western release in the past 20 years. It's stuck in the early 2000s and it screams in your face just how incompetent the designers are.

    The only good parts of this game are the horizontal progression systems. When you reach 50, you're thousands of hours from a playable state. You need gems, tripods, and engravings along with a lot of grindily obtained skill points for your build to feel reasonably playable. Therefore combat feels terrible for thousands of hours. If you watch KR videos of people near 1600 ilvl, know you will spend the better part of years playing this game to reach that point. Until then, this game will feel like playing WoW or FFXIV as a level 10 player. And every tier you completely delete 100% of your gear requiring you to completely grind or buy all of it again to rebuild.

    This game has a lot of potential, but it feels like it's been held back by the utter incompetence of both Smilegate and AGS. It could easily charge a monthly fee and find itself amongst WoW and FFXIV if any care at all was paid to it, but it's very apparent that the only thing that matters is whales.
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  73. Mar 31, 2022
    6
    Lost Ark es un juego entretenido que mezcla dinámicas de combate a lo Diablo con las interacciones y sistemas de progreso tradicionales de un MMO oriental. La historia, eso sí, es una basura, especialmente en sus primeros compases pero, en general, nunca llega a despegar. Y, una vez llegado a late game, lo que encuentras es una creciente cantidad de farmeo para subir las armas,Lost Ark es un juego entretenido que mezcla dinámicas de combate a lo Diablo con las interacciones y sistemas de progreso tradicionales de un MMO oriental. La historia, eso sí, es una basura, especialmente en sus primeros compases pero, en general, nunca llega a despegar. Y, una vez llegado a late game, lo que encuentras es una creciente cantidad de farmeo para subir las armas, especialmente con los bajos rates de honing actual en tier 3. Pero eso no quita que, en sus dinámicas básicas, el juego resulta muy entretenido y tiene una enorme cantidad de contenido, que se va ampliando con las expansiones que traen las cosas que ya están en Corea y aquí todavía no. Y hay que destacar que los enemigos muy raramente se reutilizan y las clases de personajes que puedes jugar se sienten razonablemente distintas entre sí.

    Gráficamente el juego cumple bien, pero hay que destacar de modo especial el buen trabajo de diseño en los escenarios, con algunos de ellos siendo realmente espectaculares. El sonido tiene un nivel bastante medio, su música siendo un punto flojo y un doblaje que no cubre todas las líneas de diálogo del juego. Y, aún después del desastroso lanzamiento, sigue habiendo bugs y problemas, cierto que más ocasionales, pero sigue habiéndolos. Por no mencionar que el optimizado es flojo, con zonas que tardan en cargar.

    Por todo ello, Lost Ark es un juego entretenido, pero nada que vaya a cambiar el mundo en ningún sentido. Y, especialmente si quieres avanzar rápido e ir en la vanguardia, tiene un cierto componente P2W que no tenía en su versión coreana, aunque si quieres jugarlo más de tranqui puedes hacerlo gratis sin problemas. El resultado, un 6.
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  74. Mar 30, 2022
    6
    I like it so far 45 hours at the third Ark. I enjoy it in the single player aspect of it. You can even do the dungeons alone. There are many systems in place and quite frankly I don't get what half of them do in reality. The story is fairly good. The Mokoko part was funny and interesting. The arena part not so much. The sailing is kind of ok. The sand box (build your manor something) isn'tI like it so far 45 hours at the third Ark. I enjoy it in the single player aspect of it. You can even do the dungeons alone. There are many systems in place and quite frankly I don't get what half of them do in reality. The story is fairly good. The Mokoko part was funny and interesting. The arena part not so much. The sailing is kind of ok. The sand box (build your manor something) isn't that great. I find it quite useless and very slow. The fighting and specials powers are a blast. Very easy to pickup. The control with the gamepad was odd at first. I got used to it but, you still need a keyboard/mouse. The graphics are good. I give it 80%. It's a pretty deep MMORPG with some little flaws.

    Update 2: I did some multiplayer. I think the invite party doesn't work that well, but the matchmaking is extremely efficient. I find some odd decision tho, like putting a story element into a multiplayer level. Not especially smart, as it isolate a player while the other are going further the road. The sailing paths are also very basic and goes straight into danger. I have hit a big wall at 1000 level items. You have to go to 1100 to see the end of the plot, but the item honings fails so often, that you have no choice of grinding into the sub systems. Compound the fact that the boss have complex mechanics you have to learn, that make most of multiplayer toxic and difficult to learn. I have read it's even worst to get to 1320 level and tier 3 items. So, I am downgrading my review to 65%. It's not the worst of the free MMORPG, at least I was able to play for a long time. But the ending game is not accessible to single players.
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  75. Mar 29, 2022
    1
    Overhyped game.
    Combat is fun for first few hrs but quickly becomes boring as you use the same abilities throughout the game with next to no customization.
    Questing is garbage. As MC, you have to do everything ranging from cleaning the toilet to saving the entire country only to get information about Ark. Most of the skill points after lvl 50 is hidden behind collectibles which takes
    Overhyped game.
    Combat is fun for first few hrs but quickly becomes boring as you use the same abilities throughout the game with next to no customization.
    Questing is garbage. As MC, you have to do everything ranging from cleaning the toilet to saving the entire country only to get information about Ark.
    Most of the skill points after lvl 50 is hidden behind collectibles which takes weeks, used to level up the abilities that you have used throughout the game.
    Guardian raids are a pain, all that effort for some daily miniscule loot.
    Towers are biggest pain, near impossible to clear even when overgeared. Seems like they threw every monster ability in single floor. Only reason to complete it is for skill points.
    Honing rates go down to less than 1% success rate, making you try to hit pity for guarranted success.
    Ability stone cutting is another RNG based system.
    Adventure island loots are also RNG based.
    Bots running around everywhere.
    Every little storage system requires crystals to unlock e.g resetting resistance points in skip skin, roster storage, card collection, etc.
    Absolutely unnecessary curreny called Pheons for Auction house which hampers gear trading.
    Due to all this RNG and low success rate you are stuck at particular ilvl threshold unable to progress, yet they are pushing content which 99.9% is not ready for with Argos update and Legion raids right around the corner.
    Support class are a pain to play as you will struggle to do single player content like Tower.
    Playing a ranged class has huge advantage over melee classes.
    Its essentially a P2W game.

    Only postivies of the game are:
    F2P
    Good cinematics
    Have lot of horizontals but quickly becomes boring
    Good graphics
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  76. Mar 26, 2022
    0
    just a trash game island content is boring but must have guardian raids are trash only good thing are the abyssal dungeons
  77. Mar 25, 2022
    9
    Es un juego muy sólido, una propuesta nueva y fresca para el género de Mmorpg que contiene una extensa cantidad de contenido con un sistema Hack and Slash y cámara isométrica. Tanto en misiones, clases, modos de juegos y PvP sin necesidad de comprar cosas en el juego. Contaremos horas y horas de juego en solitario o en grupo que puede ser abrumadora para los jugadores que nunca hay jugadoEs un juego muy sólido, una propuesta nueva y fresca para el género de Mmorpg que contiene una extensa cantidad de contenido con un sistema Hack and Slash y cámara isométrica. Tanto en misiones, clases, modos de juegos y PvP sin necesidad de comprar cosas en el juego. Contaremos horas y horas de juego en solitario o en grupo que puede ser abrumadora para los jugadores que nunca hay jugado este tipo de género, pero para otros puede ser un gran título.

    Review:
    https://arata.lat/aratareview-lost-ark-pc/
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  78. Mar 25, 2022
    0
    This could be one of the best MMOS of all time BUT it just has to many things which are annoying.

    1. Heavy queues up to over 8 hours wait time. 2. Horrible servers, even chat has a delay. Finding a match to do dungeons is mostly impossible. Everything you do, like open the store etc. gives you a screen freeze for like 3-5 seconds. Starting a Dungeon like a chaos dungeon, you won't be
    This could be one of the best MMOS of all time BUT it just has to many things which are annoying.

    1. Heavy queues up to over 8 hours wait time.

    2. Horrible servers, even chat has a delay. Finding a match to do dungeons is mostly impossible. Everything you do, like open the store etc. gives you a screen freeze for like 3-5 seconds. Starting a Dungeon like a chaos dungeon, you won't be able to move like 5-10 seconds. The server are just trash.

    3. Pay2Win Mechanics like 95% of games these days.

    4. Idiotic Missions where you have to avoid guards ( Prison Break mechanic ). If they see you, they insta kill you. What kind of dumb person made this quest up and it's even a Main Quest. If I would have want to play Prison Escape game then I wouldn't play an MMO. Who the hell made this quest and made it even a MAIN QUEST needs to be fired.

    5. Another MMO with the same illness like EVERY MMO has. In late Dungeons, when one person in your party does something wrong, the whole party gets one shotted. So another MMo with brainless one shot mechanics.

    6. Graphics are horrible, really hardcore blurry. I just don't get it how a game in 2022 can be sooo brutally hard blurry.

    7. BETA Player got 40.000 Crystalls. Amazing that normal players got nothing at all and Founders like Silver got around 1.000 only and you have to pay for a founders pack. Wow

    8. You can not teleport from island to island. You need to use the damn ship to get there and when you are there, you can use the teleporters. Who makes these dumb mechanics?

    9. You can not do dungeons like the chaos dungeon to farm gear when you did not finish some specific main quests. Thanks to my number 4 I am stuck and can not farm for stronger gear.

    10. 80% of items are not tradeable not even for your own other character. Don't know why there is an account storage to share items with your alts when most items can not be transfered.

    11. Work Energy is for whole server. So if you spend all work energy with your berserker and plan to continue to farm for wood etc. with your paladin then you just can't because there is an Pay2Win Mechanic that stops you from doing this because your berserker worked hard and is tired so that means, you other character are tired as well by looking at your berserker how he is working hard BUT ofcourse you can buy work energy potions with gold / crystalls / real money.

    12. This games name could also be Bots Ark because there are more people using bots in this game than actuall people. It's really annoying. These bots are spamming in chat and are trying to sell gold to some people and they are even whispering you and the big problem with this is, market inflation and that you can block only 100 people and these bots are spamming the chat non stop and there is no end with this.

    13. Character Slots are really a pain. This game has many classes and it will get even more BUT I have only 6 character slots available and they are full already and ofcourse to get more, just spend some real money. This game is even more Pay2Win than a mobile game since you can get really rich as more alt character you have on a server.

    14. Crazy and greedy prices for some items in shop. They are really put a bundle of skins that is even censored for around 40€. bunch of greedy b...

    15. Maintenance timing is the worst. These people can't do even that right. I am on EU server and the Maintenance starts mostly during daytime where everyone woke up and is back from work. Why these people can not do atleast 1 thing right and do the maintenances at nights.

    16. Gender locked classes in 2022 with almost 0 character creation mechanics. You can not change the body type etc.

    17. Mid-End game is actually heavily infected with One Shot mechanics. Never played a game with soooooo many brainless one shot mechanics.
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  79. Mar 24, 2022
    0
    This game is a casino in disguise and a scam for F2P PVE players. This is basically a mobile game made for pc with content lock behind pay walls with micro-transactions everywhere..
    Amazon did well, they own twitch and they own Lost Ark...Best way to milk players by statistics.
    They did it on purpose, this way, whales makes more views on twitch because they throw thousands dollars to
    This game is a casino in disguise and a scam for F2P PVE players. This is basically a mobile game made for pc with content lock behind pay walls with micro-transactions everywhere..
    Amazon did well, they own twitch and they own Lost Ark...Best way to milk players by statistics.
    They did it on purpose, this way, whales makes more views on twitch because they throw thousands dollars to reach engame while others are stuck on previous content, It helps generate more ads/money for Amazon :)
    Also, popular twitch streamers buy tons of gold from third party websites and don't get banned because of the previous reason mentioned... That's very fair.
    Its time to show them we're not their cows #Boycott
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  80. Mar 21, 2022
    0
    When you reach the pay wall the game become unplayable, frustrating and pure garbage.
  81. Mar 19, 2022
    1
    This game is basically only nice looking characters. It's like world class artists decided to make a game but they hire 5yo child to write dialogues and come up with idea of mechanics...
  82. Mar 19, 2022
    0
    Gives a F about your time. Upgrade System is pure frustration. What a joke.
  83. Mar 18, 2022
    8
    I like the game. It's full of things to do and you never get bored. The endgame is literally when it all starts. Much content, cool classes, lot of gear enhancement tools, gems, dungeons, raids etc. The only thing I would have loved is an open-world instead of five maps per continent.
  84. Mar 17, 2022
    5
    In T1 nice game in the end of T2 P2W starts. :-(((((( !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  85. Mar 17, 2022
    8
    I not gonna lie, since Black Desert and Blade and Soul I haven't found a really good MMO in a while. Lost Ark definitely has my interest. Gunner class is definitely the best looking and my favorite. wish there was more Character customization though. wanted my Character to look more devious but it didn't work out too well.
  86. Mar 16, 2022
    9
    this game is a work of art in the good sense of the phrase, it's obviously fun although its story seems a bit meh to me but what really matters is that you really like a game and it's also super addictive so much so that in 4 days I've already logged 20 hours. The game is very good, I recommend it and also the graphics are very good for the genre.
  87. Mar 15, 2022
    7
    After the queues to play the game became more manageable, I could finally experience the game. It's overall a good mmo with satisfying combat and good graphics. The story has its moments but overall generic and uninspiring. The endgame is definitely where the game shines with fun boss battles that require team strategy in combination with class optimization and also polished pvp. TheAfter the queues to play the game became more manageable, I could finally experience the game. It's overall a good mmo with satisfying combat and good graphics. The story has its moments but overall generic and uninspiring. The endgame is definitely where the game shines with fun boss battles that require team strategy in combination with class optimization and also polished pvp. The progression is very slow which can dissuade players in the long run. Expand
  88. Mar 15, 2022
    6
    After 400 hours of gameplay, that's my score to give.
    For the game itself i would give a 9, but the SmileGate and Amazon Studios partnership and the way they deal with the game deserves a 3. They cannot handle this amazing game and are slowly ruining it. As a result, i gave it a 6.
  89. Mar 15, 2022
    6
    Good: graphics, world, raids, optimization, classes and fighting system
    Bad: plot, immersion, pay2progress, grindy and repetitive, item system, character development system, sexism
  90. Mar 14, 2022
    0
    The game looks and feels like a cheap p2w mobile crap.Don't waste your time. Its bad
  91. Mar 11, 2022
    0
    It is even funny how, even with a huge publisher, Lost Ark manages to have, AT THE SAME TIME, the most pathetic, horrendous, apathetic, boring, repetitive, meaningless and useless campaign, quests, dialogues, bosses, NPCs, main characters and storylines, in the story of the Online RPGs.

    Sh** just goes on in the story because no reason whatsoever. Oh, yeah, now Inquisitors appeared and
    It is even funny how, even with a huge publisher, Lost Ark manages to have, AT THE SAME TIME, the most pathetic, horrendous, apathetic, boring, repetitive, meaningless and useless campaign, quests, dialogues, bosses, NPCs, main characters and storylines, in the story of the Online RPGs.

    Sh** just goes on in the story because no reason whatsoever. Oh, yeah, now Inquisitors appeared and killed everybody in an innocent village! Do you get ONE, ONE SINGLE DIALOGUE after a MASSACRE occured? Nope. Of course not. One of the most active and present NPCs in the storyline dies in that massacre. Do you have ANY interaction with that death? Nope - I mean, "who are you talking about? Someone died?". jesus Goddamn Christ.

    Sh*** is continuously thrown at you just to fill the HUGE VOID of LACK OF CONTENT - which is an absurd contradiction, because there is a LOT OF MECHANICS in Lost Ark, but, at the same time, it is so terribly written and shallow.

    I am pretty sure they got one of those "wheel of luck" filled with the names with a lot of games - Diablo, Path of Exile, Ragnarok, Starcraft etc etc etc - and, everytime they run out of ideas, they used the wheel to determine which game they were going to copy - which enemies, ambient, quests. And just glue it all together in the end! Just like a good old school job!

    This has to be THE April fool's joke. I don't care if the end game content is good, I don't care if there are some nice dungeons when you reach level 60. What I know is: THE JOURNEY IS INSUFFERABLE. Don't touch this crap.
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  92. Mar 10, 2022
    3
    Edit : My opinion on the game stands, but Amazon Games is one of the worst gaming companies ever.

    I think this will go down in history as one of the best games of all times, at least in its genre.

    There's just so much hard and good work in this game, combining the best of WoW and Diablo with its own personnal touch.
  93. Mar 10, 2022
    3
    f2p game with plenty of content, but being someone who will never spend money on cash shops I'll never max out my gear. Don't want to invest thousands of hours into something which money can achieve in a few days. Not to mention that god awful upgrade system! Watching streamers spend thousands of dollars for upgrades to fail. Story was D tier at best, only recommend this game if you gotf2p game with plenty of content, but being someone who will never spend money on cash shops I'll never max out my gear. Don't want to invest thousands of hours into something which money can achieve in a few days. Not to mention that god awful upgrade system! Watching streamers spend thousands of dollars for upgrades to fail. Story was D tier at best, only recommend this game if you got plenty of money and like arpg games. Expand
  94. Mar 10, 2022
    6
    Pros:
    - Fantastic visuals
    - Challenging and varied PVP
    - Good endgame content
    - Nice community

    Cons:
    - Absolute snooze-fest for most of the game until level 50
    - Terrible writing
    - Annoying voice acting
  95. Mar 8, 2022
    5
    Fun for few hours then you release its same stuff over and over again.

    5/10 coz f2p
  96. Mar 8, 2022
    10
    Compared to many other MMO games released over the years, this game is diamond.

    Although there was an EU server queue problem. But for that reason, I don't understand people who review this game negatively. Some game stories are good and some are not. However, considering that the genre of this game is MMO, it is not fair to play only 5-10 hours and review this game. From my personal
    Compared to many other MMO games released over the years, this game is diamond.

    Although there was an EU server queue problem. But for that reason, I don't understand people who review this game negatively.

    Some game stories are good and some are not. However, considering that the genre of this game is MMO, it is not fair to play only 5-10 hours and review this game.

    From my personal experience, it is the best MMO games released in the last 10 years and I recommend that people who love this genre try it.
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  97. Mar 7, 2022
    2
    I have played this game for like 4 hours with a friend of mine and my impressions aren't very good or even nice. You can tell it's just a major cash grab from amazon with what it's possibly one of the shallowest games since basically ever and here is why:

    1st - The Story - You want a meaningful storyline with some new ideas and interesting character development, nevermind this game.
    I have played this game for like 4 hours with a friend of mine and my impressions aren't very good or even nice. You can tell it's just a major cash grab from amazon with what it's possibly one of the shallowest games since basically ever and here is why:

    1st - The Story -
    You want a meaningful storyline with some new ideas and interesting character development, nevermind this game. The story in this game is a click fest, every npc that talks to you just has a lot of expository dialog that doesnt bring anything new to the table or anything remotely interesting, and if you skip every line of dialog you will still understand what is going on because of how many times you have seen this story in other games. Same old, same old.

    2nd Gameplay
    It looks fun, it even feels fun. You can tell that a lot of work got put into the development of the gameplay but ends up being extremely repetetive and mindless. Sure, if you play all the way through to the endgame, you will find some challenges along the way that make it worth your while, but you'll have to deal with all the mindless content and brainless combat for the majority of the game.

    3rd Gameplay + Story
    By "mindless content" I mean all of the quests from basically every NPC that go along the lines of "Go there and kill that for me", "Go there and get that thing for me (and kill that thing for me while you are there)", "Go there and take this thing to that guy for me (because even though there is magic I still need the help of someone I met 5 minutes ago)". It's just tedious and extremely repetetive

    3rd The Grind
    As any MMORPG, there is a grind fest as well. I don't mind grinding, as long as the Developers find a way to make it fun and entertaining in some aspect. THIS IS NOT THE CASE. It's just, again, mindless and the loot that you get as a reward isn't even that rewarding.

    4th - Multiplayer
    I didn't explore every aspect of this, but me and my friend did try to do a dungeon together and as soon as we tried this happened: He played an extra 40 minutes than me so, for some insane reason the game required us to be at the same quest to enter the dungeon together. This means that if I later on I want to help another friend level up, I can't. They have to do all that excuse for content by themselves because the developers seem to think that the experience alone is rewarding.
    To be honest, I only lasted as long as I did playing this game because I was with a friend otherwise I would've uninstalled it after an hour or so.

    5th - Conclusion
    It's a shell of what appears to be a beautiful world design, when in reality it is the most generic game of the year so far with a lot of story that doesn't mean anything and gameplay that will turn your brain into a vegetable. I gave it a 2 for effort and for just existing.
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  98. Mar 6, 2022
    4
    This game is boring to the first until the end no more words for this garb??!;:
  99. Mar 6, 2022
    3
    Story? who cares. combat system? nice. progression? tedious and repetetive. p2w? no.
    The game had great potential, but its a mobile made for grinding like a brainless zombie. the dungeons and raids are fun the first couple of time, but you need to do them countless times to make minor progression. all those other content shenanigans like housing and events are just for the completionist.
    Story? who cares. combat system? nice. progression? tedious and repetetive. p2w? no.
    The game had great potential, but its a mobile made for grinding like a brainless zombie. the dungeons and raids are fun the first couple of time, but you need to do them countless times to make minor progression. all those other content shenanigans like housing and events are just for the completionist. not need for guilds and stuff, you can play it solo until the very endgame. give it a try if you want since its free, but its imo a total waste of way too much time.
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  100. Mar 5, 2022
    0
    Garbage
    Worst game in recent memory
    Whoever finds this game fum - seek help
Metascore
81

Generally favorable reviews - based on 49 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 41 out of 49
  2. Negative: 0 out of 49
  1. Apr 11, 2022
    70
    Interesting character classes, enticing atmosphere, visual attractiveness, satisfying combat – Lost Ark hit the mark on everything one expects from a good action RPG. I could feel my character’s power from the very first step in this interesting, varied world, and saw potential for one of the best Diablo’s cousins in years. It’s a pity that the MMO aspects of Lost Ark forced some compromises and simply get in the way of enjoying the satisfying Diablo-esque side.
  2. Mar 30, 2022
    90
    Lost Ark is literally great enough to re-ignite my passion for MMORPGs after 15 years. That’s not a joke, and it’s not something that I’m just saying for the sake of this review. Because of that, I don’t know that I should be reviewing this game so much as I should be thanking it. I’m incredibly happy to have finally found an MMO that I can look forward to playing every day, and, if you’re willing to take my word at all, I think you’ll find that you’ll end up the same way once you sit down with this game for yourself.
  3. Edge Magazine
    Mar 24, 2022
    70
    No classic, then, but Smilegate has delivered a big, silly, characterful romp that's best experienced with friends. [Issue#370, p.118]