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  1. Sep 8, 2023
    9
    Its not a 10/10 only because the lack os servers. Wonderfull arpg game. Best on the market on 09/23
  2. Aug 11, 2023
    9
    Very good game. I enjoyed playing this game a lot. I strongly recommend this.
  3. Aug 3, 2023
    9
    Better than Diablo IV, updates and bug fixes patched in often. These developers care about their game and won't try to steal your wallet to do so.
  4. Jul 29, 2023
    10
    Grim Dawn is the best arpg of all time. It has Offline Mode and also great mods on nexusmods. Love playing necro. Better than everything Blizzard ever made.
  5. Jul 21, 2023
    10
    one of the best ARPG games, recommend all dlcs, they really improve the game. i wish it had some things like paragon and legendary gems in d3 to improve endgame a bit
  6. Jul 14, 2023
    8
    Seven years later, and Grim Dawn still beats Diablo at its own game. Welcome to Cairn.
  7. Jun 9, 2023
    10
    Still the king of arpg's. Receiving updates still after all these years. No live service needed, has a full offline mode. No macro-transactions or $100 (CAD) price tag. Price + gameplay = years of enjoyment still.
  8. Mar 20, 2023
    9
    This game turned out to be a pleasant surprise. In this game, literally everything is pleasant. Graphics, gameplay, music, plot.
    You can simply turn on music, podcast, YouTube videos in the background and play Grim Dawn.
  9. Sep 6, 2022
    9
    Absolutely solid ARPG. Lots of fun and a relief to play given that it has no DRM/always online mode. I jump between Diablo 3 and GD when I want a relaxed ARPG fix.
  10. Jul 11, 2022
    8
    A complex, high-quality, content-packed ARPG fans of its genre absolutely don't want to miss.
  11. Jun 8, 2022
    9
    Best ARPG out there. There are so many things you can juggle to perfect your build it's insane. It's a decent challenge even on veteran difficulty and keeps you on your toes. Story wise it's all right, nothing spectacular, but the notes you find in the game are really well written in my opinion, and offers a nice backstory to what happened in each area. If you like ARPG's you need to playBest ARPG out there. There are so many things you can juggle to perfect your build it's insane. It's a decent challenge even on veteran difficulty and keeps you on your toes. Story wise it's all right, nothing spectacular, but the notes you find in the game are really well written in my opinion, and offers a nice backstory to what happened in each area. If you like ARPG's you need to play this game.

    The people that give this game a negative review are out of their minds or only play **** Blizzard games and PoE.
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  12. Jun 7, 2022
    9
    This is a better Diablo 3 than the actually Diablo 3. I think a lot of the reviews will be about, how this is a successor to Diablo 2.
  13. Jun 3, 2022
    10
    Overall, I really liked the look, the atmosphere, and the story behind.
    I recommend giving it a try.
  14. Apr 27, 2022
    10
    amazing game far better than diablo 3 and 2 remake this gem should be a barometer for all ARPG's
  15. Feb 22, 2022
    8
    It is a hack and slash style RPG game. Not the best I've ever played in my life, but it made me spend about 50 hours trying to finish it. Easy gameplay, lots of equipment, normal and not very rich story. It's a game to invest little money, because you get bored quickly, however, I recommend it.
  16. Jan 13, 2022
    9
    El verdadero sucesor de Diablo 2. Largo, desafiante, con muchas posibilidades de personalización del personaje. Me pareció muy buena la idea de combinar dos clases.
    Gran variedad de armas y sets para encontrar. Unos mapas muy grandes para explorar y gran cantidad de jefes y misiones. Tiene una kinestética en los combates perfecta.
    Si lo jugas con amigos lo vas a disfrutar mucho más.
    El verdadero sucesor de Diablo 2. Largo, desafiante, con muchas posibilidades de personalización del personaje. Me pareció muy buena la idea de combinar dos clases.
    Gran variedad de armas y sets para encontrar. Unos mapas muy grandes para explorar y gran cantidad de jefes y misiones. Tiene una kinestética en los combates perfecta.
    Si lo jugas con amigos lo vas a disfrutar mucho más.
    ARPG recomendadísimo
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  17. Jan 2, 2022
    10
    I like the dark tone and it reminds me a bit of Diablo and Dark Alliance.
    Best thing about this so far I think is the dual class system and The Crucible.
    The unique thing of this game is The Crucible since it allows you to level up your character pretty darn quicks.This game is another favorite to add to the list and looooooooooads of fun to play. ^.^
  18. Dec 19, 2021
    10
    Highly Recommended : 10/10
    1. Graphics : GOOD
    2. Gameplay : GOOD
    Definitely worth a try !
  19. Dec 6, 2021
    10
    Perfect gameplay, interesting LORE, great ambience, diversity of maps, monsters, classes, items, everything. The spiritual successor to Titan Quest & Diablo 2. Everything that ARPG's old school players needed in this decade.
  20. May 29, 2021
    10
    A very good hack-n-slash with plenty of unlockables and secret spots to discover. The game allows you to create a hybrid of two classes which you choose at the beginning of a game. As far as I rememeber you can choose from 9 "Masteries", and then at lvl 10, you choose a second Mastery, and they create one class (i.e. Oathkeeper and Soldier --> Warlord). I'm aready at lvl 50, at aroundA very good hack-n-slash with plenty of unlockables and secret spots to discover. The game allows you to create a hybrid of two classes which you choose at the beginning of a game. As far as I rememeber you can choose from 9 "Masteries", and then at lvl 10, you choose a second Mastery, and they create one class (i.e. Oathkeeper and Soldier --> Warlord). I'm aready at lvl 50, at around 30-40 hrs of playtime. There is plenty of weapons, gems and upgrades you can apply to your weapons and from restoring shrines you also get devotion points to further upgrade your hero and your skills. Expand
  21. May 26, 2021
    10
    As a Titan Quest fan, I couldn't pass by this title indifferently. So far, I am very happy with the purchase (after playing 2 hours I bought the add-on right away) and you can see that the statement that "TQ was taken and made an even better game with new mechanics" is absolutely true.
    The game encourages exploration due to the many hidden places. At the same time, it is less linear than
    As a Titan Quest fan, I couldn't pass by this title indifferently. So far, I am very happy with the purchase (after playing 2 hours I bought the add-on right away) and you can see that the statement that "TQ was taken and made an even better game with new mechanics" is absolutely true.
    The game encourages exploration due to the many hidden places. At the same time, it is less linear than Titan Quest.
    The very familiar character development system has been pleasantly spiced up with constellations, which together with the addition have a strong influence on the character and it is worth stopping there a bit and rethinking the development of our constellation.
    Personally, I am very pleased with the illusions of equipment that allow you to change the appearance of items to others that have already been met. This way, we don't have to worry anymore about having to throw away the old wide-brimmed hat because we've found some weird wreath that doesn't match the look. A few moments and a handful of coins and the look was changed.
    The world is interestingly constructed, and the plot is so good that you want to read the notes you find. And just for reading notes is also exp.
    The last (but not the only) thing worth paying attention to for a moment is the faction system that determines relationships with groups. Technically, it is based on completing tasks to be able to perform new, more interesting ones, and access to better equipment at the factional merchant. The counter works the opposite for monsters. Depending on the group, they don't like us more and more, for which we get the possibility of additional rebirths (in the case of a special difficulty mode where we only have one life).
    I recommend hack'n'slash fans, hat, revolvers, occultism and a good soundtrack.
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  22. May 17, 2021
    8
    Grim Dawn is a great ARPG / Hack & Slash game. The graphics are enjoyable and the gameplay is comparable to other old-school games like Diablo. I just started and boom, suddenly over 100 hours in game.
  23. Feb 25, 2021
    10
    GRIM DAWN is the best Action-RPG out there, hands down. Forget DIABLO II, forget TORCHLIGHT II, forget PATH OF EXILE, forget HADES, this is it!
    Firstly: the semi-open world is hand crafted which makes it look more like a real place instead of those randomly generated maze worlds. And no, it does not affect replayability, doing the same mazes with a few different turns in DIABLO is not
    GRIM DAWN is the best Action-RPG out there, hands down. Forget DIABLO II, forget TORCHLIGHT II, forget PATH OF EXILE, forget HADES, this is it!
    Firstly: the semi-open world is hand crafted which makes it look more like a real place instead of those randomly generated maze worlds. And no, it does not affect replayability, doing the same mazes with a few different turns in DIABLO is not great either. There's so many secrets and optional crypts here, it gives SKYRIM a run for its money.
    The monster types are superb and there's so many of them where other ARPGs lack variety. I lover the world and the setting, it's pure post-apocalyptic dark fantasy, gritty and without the stupid cartoonish look of TORCHLIGHT or DIABLO 3. None of the light-heartedness, it's DARK, just the way I like my fantasy. That's another huge plus.
    The class system is unique: pick one at level 2 and another (if you like) at level 10 to create a new class, then take skills from each branch. Love it.
    Weapons and armor are a mix of classic fantasy (plate armor, swords, morning stars) and 18/19th century (Western style dusters, blunderbusses, six-shooters and shotguns). The mix really works here. I've beaten the game 6 times already, and unlike the DIABLO series, I keep coming back to this and finding new hidden areas, new items and new monsters that I missed on previous playthroughs.
    The DLCs range from awesome (ASHES OF MELMOUTH) to good (CRUCIBLE, an excellent leveling tool) to meh (FORGOTTEN GODS - new Oathkeep class is great, but the desert sucks), still all worth a buy.
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  24. Feb 23, 2021
    10
    I freaking love this game! I never expected to get hooked on it, tbh. I got it with skepticism it's gonna be another dull-fest akin to Path of Exile, but nope. Story got me hooked right off the bet, I live the visuals, love the combat, passive skill tree, double class system. I love how different various zones are. Music can be a bit daunting and sound effects of the menu a bit tacky, butI freaking love this game! I never expected to get hooked on it, tbh. I got it with skepticism it's gonna be another dull-fest akin to Path of Exile, but nope. Story got me hooked right off the bet, I live the visuals, love the combat, passive skill tree, double class system. I love how different various zones are. Music can be a bit daunting and sound effects of the menu a bit tacky, but I overlook that for all the pros the game has to offer.
    Love the DLCs, especially Ashes of Malmouth - very immersive story, zones are fantastic.
    Great game for anyone who like ARPGs!
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  25. Feb 14, 2021
    9
    Grim Dawn is one of the best modern hack n slash action RPGs. It doesn’t reinvent the wheel but it provides pretty much everything you are looking in a hack n slash game in a refined state. The atmosphere is good, graphics and color palette are top notch. Skill tree is pretty good and there is no end to the variety of combinations you can try especially when you go dual class. I loved theGrim Dawn is one of the best modern hack n slash action RPGs. It doesn’t reinvent the wheel but it provides pretty much everything you are looking in a hack n slash game in a refined state. The atmosphere is good, graphics and color palette are top notch. Skill tree is pretty good and there is no end to the variety of combinations you can try especially when you go dual class. I loved the post-rock soundtrack which perfectly fits the overall game mood.

    On paper everything is great and there are only a few drawbacks which mostly relate to personal taste. In this genre, I used to love the lore, my epic weapons and memorable boss fights (Butcher in Diablo 1). In Grim Dawn, there are so many bosses, so many “epic” weapons and so many dialogues, yet I would not call them memorable. This may be a bit nitpicking, considering they are things you can only find in old hack n slash games (Diablo 1 and Vampire the Masquerade: Redemption to name a few). But what makes a hack n slash game perfect for my taste is missing in Grim Dawn (the same way it’s missing in PoE, recent Diablo titles, Torchlight etc).

    In any case, Grim Dawn is a great game overall. I would easily recommend to anyone looking for a modern title in this genre. It’s up there with Path of Exile.

    8.5/10
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  26. Jan 13, 2021
    8
    Excellent ARPG. Slower and more methodical than something like Diablo 3 or Path of Exile. Really spooky. Extensive character development/build options.
  27. Jan 4, 2021
    9
    First things first: this game doesn't hold your hand. Secondly, it's immersive as hell. You come into a shattered world, at first, seemingly being ripped apart by a singular faction, the usual baddies that you have to chop, shoot, peck, flame, and just all around wreck their stuff. But midway through, you find another faction is at it too, wanting to add their portion of misery. Now, youFirst things first: this game doesn't hold your hand. Secondly, it's immersive as hell. You come into a shattered world, at first, seemingly being ripped apart by a singular faction, the usual baddies that you have to chop, shoot, peck, flame, and just all around wreck their stuff. But midway through, you find another faction is at it too, wanting to add their portion of misery. Now, you can pay attention to the clues, because you aren't outright told what all is happening, you get it in portions. This is good storytelling, no exposition buffet, dumped on your lap.

    So while you're getting a good helping of plot, you battle enemies. Standard stuff you may think. Least I did at first, grew up on D2 LOD and dabbled in Torchlight 2, so it seemed straightforward. But then, then you go to pick your class (which starts at level 5, not straight away - the people know thing or two about easing you into the gameplay) and you have several different classes to pick from, and if you got the DLC, you get a second class to choose from starting at level 10, to make a third class. Then it hits you, oh man, it isn't going to be as simple as click-until-it-dies. No, no you have to think about how you want to flavor click-until-it-dies.

    Now as you're pondering these choices, you see these levels and all this loot dropping, cause you figure the game is really generous and this seems to be pretty rich and wonderfully done level design for a rogue-like, but it isn't a roguelike. No, people took time and effort to design the levels, from the look to how you the player should experience it. And goddamn did they hit it out of the park! Not only did the good people doing god's work at Crate Entertainment know a thing or two about level design, but they knew how you were probably feeling as you're progressing. Usually you get tossed into the deep end, a whole bunch of crap thrown at you at once, but then the level opens up, breathes a little, before you wade into the next bunch of hell. And oh man, hell is where we are.

    From the journal snippets, to letters, to orders, you get a sense of what this world was like when hell-broke-loose. You get a sense and it logically makes sense, how people reacted to seeing their world fall apart. And you think, oh man this is great, but I guess I can skip it. And sure, you can, but one of the things that's helpful is that when you ever wonder about what should be motivating you as you move along in this world, what keeps your character wanting to wade into the mess again, these letters, journals, detailing how everyday people, how their world has been interrupted by a bunch of jackoffs who's only reason, it seems, to invade in the first place is that they were bored of their realm of existence and have no qualms ripping humanity a new one. But not today!

    So, as you progress, adding spells and skills to fireoff in a middle of a fight, navigating twisting, richly textured environments that pay you big time for exploring, the loot, the loot! The loot becomes an element of a fight, so much drops that you have to pick it up just so you can see some more baddies to fight. And oh man, the diversity and the richness of the enemies, my god, there has to be like 70 - 90 different enemies! No recycling of behaviours, with different factions having different units that have unique styles that you have to learn and adapt to. And each fight takes on its own tempo, some you can breeze, others become a frantic, to the knife's edge. Each fight progresses and builds, so by the time you are coming to the end, the fights are bigger, more intense, and everything, everything you have been learning, adapting is building up to these end fights.

    And then it htis you. This has been well-designed. This game was made with care, attention, with detail, with love. The game designers and everyone at Crate Entertainment loved what they were making and keep adding to. And they understand what they made. These people are magnificent.

    Do yourself a favor, if you like ARPGs or hell, just want a good, rich game with intricate gameplay and a good story, this is it. Buy it, play it, love it.
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  28. Dec 12, 2020
    10
    Remarkable title that helps me quench the thirst for some good role-playing hack and slash game. Over the years I still played Diablo II but let's be honest, it's really old. Grim dawn brings back good memories with it's dark setting and nice gameplay. The class system that allows you to combine two of them is very fun and makes for better re-playability.
  29. Oct 14, 2020
    10
    The very best of its genre. This is what you get with a team that loves what they're doing.
    Still playing 4 years after
  30. Sep 15, 2020
    9
    GRIM DAWN is by far the best DIABLO clone out there, yes, better than DIABLO II & III, better than TORCHLIGHT 2 and PATH OF EXILE.
    GRIM DAWN has a unique atmosphere and setting - post-apocalyptic fantasy with guns - unique classes (occultist, necromancer, etc.) and allows for dual-classing.
    The maps are hand crafted rather than procedurally generated - and you really can feel the
    GRIM DAWN is by far the best DIABLO clone out there, yes, better than DIABLO II & III, better than TORCHLIGHT 2 and PATH OF EXILE.
    GRIM DAWN has a unique atmosphere and setting - post-apocalyptic fantasy with guns - unique classes (occultist, necromancer, etc.) and allows for dual-classing.
    The maps are hand crafted rather than procedurally generated - and you really can feel the difference! Levels are not endless mazes trying to create the longest way from A to B, they feel like real places. The entire map is one whole open world, the only loading screens are some interiors.
    Monsters are varies and well-designed.
    Despite no randomized levels, GRIM DAWN never gets boring - I've spent 1000+ hours in this game, longer than in any of this type, and I just started a new playthrough.
    9 out of 9!
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  31. Sep 11, 2020
    10
    Grim Dawn это то чего так долго ждали любители Diabo 2 LoD, мрачная, интересный сюжет, много вещей, разновидность монстров, музыка, разновидность классов, можно группировать классы персонажей. Это практически Diablo 2 remastered!!! Единственное чего хватает, это онлайна, полноценного как этот реализовано в Diablo 3. Я обожаю эту игру и с нетерпением жду Grim Dawn 2! Удачи разработчикам.Grim Dawn это то чего так долго ждали любители Diabo 2 LoD, мрачная, интересный сюжет, много вещей, разновидность монстров, музыка, разновидность классов, можно группировать классы персонажей. Это практически Diablo 2 remastered!!! Единственное чего хватает, это онлайна, полноценного как этот реализовано в Diablo 3. Я обожаю эту игру и с нетерпением жду Grim Dawn 2! Удачи разработчикам.

    Grim Dawn is what Diabo 2 LoD fans have been waiting for for so long, a dark, interesting plot, a lot of things, a kind of monsters, music, a kind of classes, you can group character classes. It's practically Diablo 2 remastered !!! The only thing missing is online, full-fledged like this is implemented in Diablo 3. I love this game and am looking forward to Grim Dawn 2! Good luck to the developers.
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  32. Sep 10, 2020
    10
    Definitely Diablo 2 successor, it even went beyond that with two classes combination and the star system. It allows you to craft (buff) skill like never before. The possibility of builds is huge to the point It put Diablo 3 to shame. The dark atmosphere is right on point. Music is awesome too. COOP/ PVP you name it. Endless dungeon ?, yes it has with cheap DLC. I don't see any flaw inDefinitely Diablo 2 successor, it even went beyond that with two classes combination and the star system. It allows you to craft (buff) skill like never before. The possibility of builds is huge to the point It put Diablo 3 to shame. The dark atmosphere is right on point. Music is awesome too. COOP/ PVP you name it. Endless dungeon ?, yes it has with cheap DLC. I don't see any flaw in this game at all. In my opinion this game is perfect in every way, like ARPG in dream.

    In sum, I played a lot of ARPG, POE too and I have to say Grim dawn is the best ARPG I've ever played. The game also has good controller support. I strongly recommend this game to every hardcore ARPG out there, and buy them all dlc so you can have 3 more classes.
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  33. Aug 12, 2020
    10
    This is by far the best ARPG on the market right now, it makes things so rewarding that you cannot stop playing. Buid, skill tree, class combination, all of this make GD an unique experience that I was looking for since Diablo 2. For all of those D2 orphans, this the the game you should be playing right now, it fills the gap between D2 and D4, which we have no idea when it will come out. IThis is by far the best ARPG on the market right now, it makes things so rewarding that you cannot stop playing. Buid, skill tree, class combination, all of this make GD an unique experience that I was looking for since Diablo 2. For all of those D2 orphans, this the the game you should be playing right now, it fills the gap between D2 and D4, which we have no idea when it will come out. I tried PoE, but I don't feel combat so rewarding as GD. Also GD is less complex than PoE ins many aspects, making GD a better experience in my opnion. I reach level 100 with 3 different classes, and I'm going to my 4th. Don't miss GD. Expand
  34. Jul 19, 2020
    10
    GamePlay 11/10
    Visual 8/10
    Audio 8/10
    UI/Controls 8/10
    Story 8/10
    Overall 9/10

    Best Diablo 2 experience you can get
  35. Jul 8, 2020
    8
    Only problem is that atmosphere and areas can be improved otherwise one of the best of this genre
  36. Jul 6, 2020
    9
    A diablo like that every fan must play. Similiar to Path of exile, but a lit bit better because the mechanics are easier to understand and there is no lag problems on multiplayer mode.
  37. May 4, 2020
    9
    Viciante, bem otimizado, ótimo para se jogar com os amigos, exigindo uma boa comunicação em determinadas dificuldades, historia interessante e mecânica de Build rica, que propicia um avanço notável e agradável.
  38. Apr 19, 2020
    10
    Pros:
    + Gorgeous graphics
    + Atmosphere
    + The freedom of choosing classes and different combinations, experimenting with builds.
    + Real fun playing with all kinds of abilities
    + A lot of ground to cover (a lot)
    + Really fun playing it with a friend or friends

    Cons:
    - none . Honestly i can't think of anything negative to say about this game.
  39. Feb 28, 2020
    10
    This is one of the all time best ARPG. Plenty of possible classes combinations, long story if you want to visit everything and finish all the quests, good coop. You can't spend experience points without thinking ahead. The only real weakness is small skills tree. Some may take it as the advantage over other ARPG but those who played at least few ARPGs will look at this as a weak spot. WhatThis is one of the all time best ARPG. Plenty of possible classes combinations, long story if you want to visit everything and finish all the quests, good coop. You can't spend experience points without thinking ahead. The only real weakness is small skills tree. Some may take it as the advantage over other ARPG but those who played at least few ARPGs will look at this as a weak spot. What can't be denied game is worth the money you pay, same goes for expansions . Expand
  40. Dec 8, 2019
    8
    One of the best Diablo-like games I've ever seen. The only negative point I can see is the length of the campaign. It's not short, but it could be bigger.
  41. Dec 5, 2019
    9
    Много классов
    Много предметов
    Крафт
    Много секретов
    Приятный визуал
    Затягивает
  42. Aug 13, 2019
    10
    Coming in as a big Diablo 2 fan, heard good things about this and it's a very good ARPG. Solid mechanics and doesn't really stray too far from the formula. Good story and has that addictive gameplay that just jeeps you playing. Great game.
  43. Apr 18, 2019
    9
    Grim Dawn has excellent class options and customization. Each class is fun to play with so many different ways to play. I like this game even more than Path of Exile and POE is a great game as well.
  44. Apr 14, 2019
    10
    First of. I dont give a 0 or 10 compared to all games. I give, in this case 10 for being probably the best ARPG i have played in like forever. I do think i had the same feeling playing Diablo 2 but definitely Diablo 3 even with the expansion and patches.
    This game is everything an ARPG should be. Switching between a season in D3 and then some PoE i can only say im done with those ARPG's.
    First of. I dont give a 0 or 10 compared to all games. I give, in this case 10 for being probably the best ARPG i have played in like forever. I do think i had the same feeling playing Diablo 2 but definitely Diablo 3 even with the expansion and patches.
    This game is everything an ARPG should be. Switching between a season in D3 and then some PoE i can only say im done with those ARPG's. This game is amazing. I dont know what it was like at launch but this is just fantastic. If you look at the date im writing this review you can see its a while since launch. No bugs. Smooth graphics and great sound effects.
    So first of. Technically this game is running superbly.
    Story. Well you gotta read alot, not much voice acting except the main quests. So maybe i would drag it just a smidge down here but 9.5 isnt an option on Metacritic.
    Game play wise. Well here is where the epic fun begins. They managed (for me atleast) to create the perfect ARPG. The amount of talent builds and the way they are being build is truly amazing. D3 and PoE is lacking in this sense. Well they were good but Crate showed us how it really should be done. Dual class system works perfect. Also bear in mind they constantly listen to the community and makes proper balance to the builds.
    Speaking of community. Its really great. If you got a question or have and idea of a build. This community is very non toxic and helpful. Also im constantly on the VERY active "official" Discord channel and if no one is typing anything within atleast 5 minuttes. Then check your internet connection because you must be offline :D
    Back to the game. Sometimes its hard for me to figure out what makes some things truly great. I just know this game does it for me.
    Lastly i just want you guys to consider how few people with few resources made this masterpiece, is by itself a accomplishment worthy of going down in history.
    Buy this game. Support the team in any ways possible and hope for a fantastic future in this game or the next from these guys.
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  45. Feb 27, 2019
    8
    Already a classic in the genre. Grim Dawn is considered among the very best games of this type, and rightfully so. It builds upon it's Titan Quest foundations and improves upon almost every aspect. The setting is done beautifully, soundtrack is great, gameplay is addictive and all the mechanics are well thought and rewarding. This is one of the very few games that can keep you playing evenAlready a classic in the genre. Grim Dawn is considered among the very best games of this type, and rightfully so. It builds upon it's Titan Quest foundations and improves upon almost every aspect. The setting is done beautifully, soundtrack is great, gameplay is addictive and all the mechanics are well thought and rewarding. This is one of the very few games that can keep you playing even after finishing main story, which by itself is very good as well, though manages to have unsatisfying endings for both base game (especially) and expansion, but Ashes of Malmouth finally finishes the story properly instead if cutting it suddenly without any real ending like the base game does. There is a lot of secondary content to find along the way and a lot to read, artistically the game is very good. It was great when playing with second person through LAN. There are two very significant flaws though. One is that if you play in multiplayer like I did in LAN, due to dialogue system that gives you a choice that has consequences, only one player can talk with an NPC at a time, but choices and accepting/delivering quests applies to all characters in group. So essentially you have to read dialogues to other person, because both players cannot display them at the same time, and once quest is accepted the dialogue is gone. Another big flaw of the game is the ancient engine that is completely singlethreaded, meaning that even if you have high-end overclocked CPU, you are still going to suffer from massive performance issues during more intensive and dense scenes because game simply cannot utilize your resources. This is understandable for old games like Titan Quest, but Grim Dawn has 2016 release date. Though on the other hand, all games of this type are having exactly the same issue, just like all MMOs for example, with Diablo 3 being the only exception. Game itself is a 9, it does exactly what a game of this genre is supposed/expected to do and combining that with some considerable artistic/narrative qualities, but aforementioned issues are too extreme to ignore. Expand
  46. Dec 5, 2018
    9
    In my opinion, the best ARPG I have played. Very fun and completely opposite to the streamline path that Diablo 3 takes.
  47. Sep 20, 2018
    9
    It's a Diablo 3 game but so much better. Here, you get so much more action and rpg for a much better price. Fast-paced gameplay, more items, more enemies, a deep and engaging gear system and the optional crafting system that gets you really good items. Having played The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing and Diablo 3, I'd say Diablo 3 is the worst of the bunch by a long shot and GrimIt's a Diablo 3 game but so much better. Here, you get so much more action and rpg for a much better price. Fast-paced gameplay, more items, more enemies, a deep and engaging gear system and the optional crafting system that gets you really good items. Having played The Incredible Adventures of Van Helsing and Diablo 3, I'd say Diablo 3 is the worst of the bunch by a long shot and Grim Dawn is tied to Van Helsing. The graphics is also impressive and gameplay depth is superb. It's getting a 9 because I found the story to be dark, but a too boring, predictable and linear, which made me care less for the characters. Grim dawn doesn't have excellent, well-written companions like Lady Katarina in Van Helsing, which I found to be a minus, but given the excellent gameplay, it's not a big issue. For an asking price of $30 dollars or less, during a sale, you are getting excellent value. Expand
  48. Sep 3, 2018
    8
    В общем и целом 8,5 из 10

    Объективно: Из плюсов в порядке убывания качества: - Дизайн уровней. Я люблю автогенерируемые уровни и понимаю, что вручную можно сделать лучше, но всего на один раз. Но всё же - здесь, хоть уровни и не уникальны для каждого нового прохождения, но все равно сделаны хорошо. Что понимаю по сделанными хорошо? Уровни вдоволь забитые деталями, как мелкими, так и
    В общем и целом 8,5 из 10

    Объективно:

    Из плюсов в порядке убывания качества:
    - Дизайн уровней. Я люблю автогенерируемые уровни и понимаю, что вручную можно сделать лучше, но всего на один раз. Но всё же - здесь, хоть уровни и не уникальны для каждого нового прохождения, но все равно сделаны хорошо. Что понимаю по сделанными хорошо? Уровни вдоволь забитые деталями, как мелкими, так и крупными. Наличие секретов. Много минибоссов, подбоссов, пещер, тайников. Где-то непроходимые зоны с "лавой". Равномерное распределение монстров с достаточной плотностью и количеством. Я не встречал откровенных "пустынь". Это меня очень расстраивало в титан квесте, в 3ем акте и в новом, выпущенном в 2018 году. Здесь такого нет.
    - Антураж. Удачно выбранный сеттинг, подкрепленный достаточно убедительным визуальным рядом и стилем. Из ружбайки по нечисти стрелять прям очень нравится.
    - Классический, но оттого не менее увлекательный геймплей. Для фанатов титан квеста, диабло 2/3.
    - Звук приятный, особенно музыкальные темы. Хотя все же к 80му часу уже приелось.
    - Графика не лучшая на свете, но оставляет приятные впечатления.
    - На мой взгляд очень даже неплохая система крафта.
    - на 2018 год запланированно второе дополнение, т.е. 2 года игре и она поддерживается.
    - Купил за что-то типа 600 рублей с сюжетным дополнением. Делим на 120 отыгранных часов - получаем 5 рублей в час за такое удовольствие. Игра оправдана по стоимости, более чем.

    Из минусов:

    - Маловато разнообразия монстров, честно говоря они приедаются и не знаю почему, но именно в этой игре мне это особенно заметно. (Как и в титан квесте своё время.)
    - Редко, но бывают визуальные лаги с тенями в игре. Возможно это из-за движка, которому ого-го уже лет.

    В общем рекомендую как для знакомства с жанром, так и для любителей жанра. Не вижу причин, по которым можно пожалеть о покупке. От игры можно устать, как и от любой другой, но это скорее от человека зависит.
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  49. Dec 18, 2017
    10
    Grim Dawn is an old school Action RPG with a focus on single player. There is a lot of content and theory crafting to be had here. Currently I have 230+ hours and plan on going back to it at a later date. Best game in the genre.
  50. Dec 4, 2017
    10
    I've spent 300 hours playing this game and it has been insanely fun. There are tons of different items and weapons and the map is pretty big. The monsters look cool and there is a **** of replay value
  51. Nov 2, 2017
    8
    Grim Dawn is pretty much darker Titan Quest with some additional features which is good. The only serious drawback is that difficulty is a bit too low at Normal-Elite, especially on 2nd+ playthrough, when you have a lot of good gear from previous characters.
  52. Oct 6, 2017
    9
    Un ARPG a la vieja escuela de Crate Entertainment compañia surgida a partir de Iron Lore Entertainment's (creadores de Titan Quest), y que es un digno sucesor tanto de Diablo II como de Titan Quest. Seis clases con árbol de habilidades propias, pero a partir del nivel 10 se puede seleccionar una segunda clase aumentando las combinaciones de profesión, y si le añadimos el tema de lasUn ARPG a la vieja escuela de Crate Entertainment compañia surgida a partir de Iron Lore Entertainment's (creadores de Titan Quest), y que es un digno sucesor tanto de Diablo II como de Titan Quest. Seis clases con árbol de habilidades propias, pero a partir del nivel 10 se puede seleccionar una segunda clase aumentando las combinaciones de profesión, y si le añadimos el tema de las constelaciones para bonos y habilidades desbloqueables aumenta la personalización todavia aun mas (se puede resetear cuando se quiera por un precio asequible). Diversas quests con elecciones y consecuencias según opción que elijamos, mazmorras especiales, secretos, zonas opcionales, sistema de facciones a lo Titan Quest con la que se desbloquean nuevos retos, equipamiento único, y descuentos si vas a las buenas y facciones enemigas que tendra consecuencias negativas si nos ponemos a malas con ellos. Modo cooperativo para jugar online hasta cuatro amigos a la vez.

    Rejugabilidad alta con varias dificultades extra al modo de Diablo y contenido para horas, muy buena relación cálidad/precio. Totalmente recomendado, va a contar con una expansión próximamente con lo que no seria raro ver una oferta de pack en el futuro.

    Very good quality/price relation. Recommended.
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  53. Sep 23, 2017
    9
    Such a solid ARPG. Makes excellent use of the PathEngine and improves greatly on its predecessor Titan Quest AE. If you enjoyed the mechanics and UI of TQAE, then you will enjoy this incarnation. Please note that since I haven't tried multiplayer, I won't be commenting on that aspect.

    Pros: 1. A decent skill tree system, something sorely lacking in Diablo 3. Also reasonably cheap to
    Such a solid ARPG. Makes excellent use of the PathEngine and improves greatly on its predecessor Titan Quest AE. If you enjoyed the mechanics and UI of TQAE, then you will enjoy this incarnation. Please note that since I haven't tried multiplayer, I won't be commenting on that aspect.

    Pros:
    1. A decent skill tree system, something sorely lacking in Diablo 3. Also reasonably cheap to buy back used skill points and change your build.

    2. Masteries make for a huge variety of classes unlike the wooden ones in other ARPGs. Equipment isn't limited to particular classes, so long as you have the attributes and level.

    3. Factions are a fun dimension and there are quite a few of them.

    4. Typical ARPG gold (iron bits that is) expenditures aren't outrageous, minimizing the need for excessive gold farming.

    5. Reasonably simple game design from the get go and no major, jarring changes at the whining behest of hardcore players, much like what happened to Diablo 3, which turned into a huge convoluted mess centered on insanely complex crafting. GD is a good pick-up-and-play kind of game and not daunting for new or casual players.

    6. Very good graphics considering the age of the game engine.

    7. Interesting world setting, partly early industrial technology mixed with typical sword and sorcery
    fantasy elements.

    8. Very good music, unobtrusive ambient music like you'd expect.

    Cons:

    1. Boss fights are very cheap if you're playing a mobility/ranged character. Every major boss is fought in a tiny arena, which is great if your a tank/melee, but irritating if you play a character who depends on mobility.

    2. Overall story arch seems interesting in concept, but is poorly portrayed in the game. I never care about the story at all while playing, but this an ARPG so it's typical. Most boring and anticlimactic end boss and ending ever.

    3. Crafting relics is impossible unless you put thousands of hours in this game.
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  54. Jul 20, 2017
    10
    Grim Dawn is very well optimized, excellent work of the creators. grade A!!! Extremely addictive !!!! Super fast multiplayer mode and even on weak PC's runs perfectly. I highly recommend it and I want this game to last a long time and get better and better.
  55. Jul 7, 2017
    9
    This game succeeds in as a superior successor to Diablo II than D3 or Torchlight does. It's dark, it's demonic. It's what you want to play. Good pacing through gameplay and boss fights, good pace on character development. Highly recommended.
  56. May 9, 2017
    10
    Grim Dawn is an example how an action rpg should have been, it's a diablo 2 plus, I'm so excited finally there is an action rpg like this, satisfying combat and systems, character levelling, skills and loot system. Without doubt Grim dawn is the best point and click action rpg since diablo 2 !
  57. May 4, 2017
    9
    This game is already better than Diablo 3. I have played less than hour, but I know and I'm sure that it's gonna be better and more enjoyable. I didn't see any gore on youtube, but now I see that it's there. This game is like Diablo 2 made better and upgraded. Diablo 3 is overestimated.
  58. Mar 14, 2017
    10
    I really enjoyed this game. If you liked Diablo series then you will surely like this game too. It's not expensive and it rewards every cent spent for it 100%. Great title for it's genre.
  59. Jan 21, 2017
    10
    watch out diablo......

    positive

    + a true grimmi environment
    + a lot of loot
    + cool enemies
    + a lot to do+big world
    negative
    - to mush loot some times
    better then diablo 3? yes
  60. Jan 3, 2017
    8
    If you like Diablo II more than Diablo III and Path of Exile, Grim Dawn is just the right thing for you.

    For me, the most important indicator is always whether I can not stop playing the game. And Grim Dawn makes me an addict! Damn it... Pros: + There are many similarities to Diablo2 (especially the music !!) as well as Titan Quest (which is made by the same team) + Very well
    If you like Diablo II more than Diablo III and Path of Exile, Grim Dawn is just the right thing for you.

    For me, the most important indicator is always whether I can not stop playing the game. And Grim Dawn makes me an addict! Damn it...

    Pros:
    + There are many similarities to Diablo2 (especially the music !!) as well as Titan Quest (which is made by the same team)
    + Very well implemented spiral of leveling and grinding, you never get too many items (and especially no dull "daily legendaries" like D3)
    + A variety of items to craft, a nice selection of talents and specializations
    + Devotion (something like a "religion") is a very cool skill element, especially since you can bound it to abilities (which you can then also level, similar to gemstones in PoE)
    + The dual class system produces very interesting char builds
    + The story is even more than just "click-away textlines"!

    Cons:
    - It sometimes has its longueurs and partially empty areas (maybe only on "normal game mode")
    - Damage values ​​are not fully optimized: Often you run through monster hordes without taking any damage, only to get a one-hit from the boss (IMO those "final hits" are not clearly predictable)
    - Hits, magic and other abilities are not quite as impressive as in Diablo3 (Blizzard still is leading in this category)

    Conclusion: Grim Dawn is a very good Hack-n-Slay game - one of the old school. I even liked it more than Age of Conan and Torchlight. For me, it is on a par with Path of Exile and Titan Quest.
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  61. Dec 13, 2016
    10
    Grim Dawn is clearly without doubt what diablo3 should have been like. The best ARPG out there right now.
    Great mechanics!
    Great skillsystem!
    Great Loot!
    This postapocalyptic world is beautiful goth design in its best, you dont see effects spam the whole screen like POE and Diablo3 (epilepsia ,headache games) , stuffs just feel more Diablo2 in all ways but better.
  62. Nov 3, 2016
    9
    Grim Dawn is a very interesting H&S aRPG, dark and atmospheric.
    There is sufficient variety of skills and point development and the items are nice and worthy.
    Crafting is also a part that makes sense , gives more options and depth.
    Graphics could have been better. However you buy a complete game for a cheap price comparing to the initial 60euro price for D3 that was a payed beta crashed game.
  63. Oct 12, 2016
    9
    First off, let me preface this review with a bit of disclosure: I'm a huge fan of Titan Quest and I already had hugely high hopes for this game, and as such, may be slightly biased. That said, I'll try to be as objective as possible in the following.

    Grim Dawn is a terrible, gloomy place. From the moment you're introduced to the world, you come to realize that your place in it is
    First off, let me preface this review with a bit of disclosure: I'm a huge fan of Titan Quest and I already had hugely high hopes for this game, and as such, may be slightly biased. That said, I'll try to be as objective as possible in the following.

    Grim Dawn is a terrible, gloomy place. From the moment you're introduced to the world, you come to realize that your place in it is tenuous at best, and merely existing in it is a herculean feat of survival. Bad things are happening, and ancient horrors have been released, possessing humans and raising their corpses to do their bidding. Not only that, but other, competing factions have also begun to appear, protected by fanatical cultists. It's with this background that you're introduced, as a possessed human that's captured and hung, but survive, once the Aetherial possessing you leaves your body. It's then that you're forced out into the wilds, to face the undead, roving bands of gangs, cultists, twisted wildlife and other potent horrors that just want you dead.

    There's a nice selection of classes, and a progression system that well rivals even Path of Exile's. The loot is rewarding, the atmosphere suitably gloomy and captures the precariousness of it all. The abilities are nice, and the world itself is a mixture of medieval meets steampunk, with firearms, melee combat, magic, and many other abilities tied to how you modify your gear, or specific items.

    The graphics convey just how **** this world is, and are sharp, with pretty solid effects. The sound is good and in dungeon areas, will genuinely creep you out. The enemies are broadly diverse, some lacking in difficulty, while others just continuously spam abilities with no end in sight. (This is where I dinged a point. I didn't like it in Fallout 4, either.) The music was also suitably atmospheric, and composition was something I'm enjoying quite greatly.

    All in all, I view it as a worthy successor to Diablo 2's ARPG crown, and may even rank it higher than I do Path of Exile, which I previously had viewed as the heir apparent prior. If you're a fan of dungeon crawling, loot, theory-crafting, gear modification, replayability, and especially if you liked TQ, get this game. The amount of entertainment for the price cannot be understated, for the content you receive.
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  64. Sep 18, 2016
    9
    Great game with hundreds of hours of content. Elite and Ultimate game modes for better loot and more challenge. A high number of masteries that can combined to various classes. Lots of secret areas and a new faction system. The story and lore are good although not the main focus. All in all, a great spiritual successor to Titan Quest. It is a 9 only because the game world feels more orGreat game with hundreds of hours of content. Elite and Ultimate game modes for better loot and more challenge. A high number of masteries that can combined to various classes. Lots of secret areas and a new faction system. The story and lore are good although not the main focus. All in all, a great spiritual successor to Titan Quest. It is a 9 only because the game world feels more or less the same everywhere. I had expected more variations. Expand
  65. Aug 21, 2016
    9
    This modern Action RPG is quite something. It aims for longevity both in terms of content updates and build and skill system depth, not the least from the innovative dual-mastery system reminding me of D&D of years past, giving rise to no less than 15 (!) different classes. For example, a Nightblade/Soldier becomes a Blademaster. This doesn't overwhelm though. The developer has managed toThis modern Action RPG is quite something. It aims for longevity both in terms of content updates and build and skill system depth, not the least from the innovative dual-mastery system reminding me of D&D of years past, giving rise to no less than 15 (!) different classes. For example, a Nightblade/Soldier becomes a Blademaster. This doesn't overwhelm though. The developer has managed to create something deep and complex, yet with a welcoming surface to lure you into the wonders of theorycrafting.

    The style is a steampunk, gritty atmosphere that feels adult. Comparing this to the obvious game Diablo 3, Diablo 3 feels a bit like an action movie with huge explosions where this plays more like The Walking Dead as you step out to roam the abandoned towns in the post-apocalyptic surroundings, with rarely seen graphical detail. I read diaries to try to understand, I wade through zombies and worse, and I try to make the best out of of a grim situation indeed.

    There is also an air of roguelike gaming surrounding this game, made even more evident from developer posts directly referring roguelikes, and certain end-game content. I have never heard of such references from an Action RPG developer since Diablo 1! It's great to see the developer recognize the genre's roots and bring out the fun of those games in this grim packaging of metal, wood, occultism, sweat, and blood.

    Further making this game unique among its peers is that the single player mode can be paused! Unbeatable support for quick, urgent breaks if someone is calling for your attention in real life. It also comes with mod support to expand its longevity. Both features rarely seen today because they are incompatible with heavy online dependency, something this game supports but does not require. These special features completes this game's certain spirit. A spirit I have not felt since a long time indeed.
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  66. Aug 16, 2016
    10
    A vast handmade world where each inch feels unique with its own environment, sometimes I stop on an abandoned farm only to see the beautiful sunset... I remember that was easy to start but hard to leave once I was progressing, discovering, crafting, building, is similar to Path of Exile but also is a full game that can be played offline and with mod support could be endless.
  67. Aug 14, 2016
    8
    I'll make this short and sweet. If you're a diablo fan you will like this game, you may not love it, but in my opinion it is better than diablo 3 AND for a fraction of the price (25 dollars currently). If you're not a diablo fan, great, you have no expectations and will likely enjoy this game. For the price, the game play and the replay ability it is a solid game that deserves your timeI'll make this short and sweet. If you're a diablo fan you will like this game, you may not love it, but in my opinion it is better than diablo 3 AND for a fraction of the price (25 dollars currently). If you're not a diablo fan, great, you have no expectations and will likely enjoy this game. For the price, the game play and the replay ability it is a solid game that deserves your time and your money. Expand
  68. Aug 6, 2016
    9
    Even that i am not diablo 3 hater, i must say this game is what diablo 3 shoud have been. A game from makers of titan quest and i must say Titan quest was great ARPG, grim dawn is better in every way. Not sure if this is best ARPG ever made (Diablo 2 is wery hard candidate even to day), but it is really close for sure if not even better.
  69. Aug 2, 2016
    8
    Very addictive and what Diablo 3 should have been. This does everything right and has more depth than Diablo 3. Very good value and the best RPG around.
  70. Jul 6, 2016
    8
    This review contains spoilers, click expand to view. The amount of fun I had with my brothers on LAN is worth it (That's the short version.).
    Once, I save a family and other time I decided to let them die. Ran into few nemesis, was fun dying over and over till we came up with a good strategy and changing "build" to be able to beat it. Joined a "faction" only to find they are controlled by extremists. Charging into "weaklings" enemies and tear them apart. Charging into tough bosses, only to be tore apart. I

    Now, if they can fix some bugs here and there (especially for multiplayer or LAN).
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  71. Jul 1, 2016
    9
    grim dawn is a great game, better then diablo 3.. i miss ah.. if it had that i would give it 10/10.. buy it.. try it.. and you have fun for many hours:D
  72. Jun 22, 2016
    9
    Grim Dawn is, appropriately enough, a dark fantasy action-RPG, a Diablo-like from the makers of Titan Quest and its expansion, Immortal Throne. It exchanges the sword-and-sandal world of Greek, Egyptian and Chinese myth of its predecessor for a world of iron, blood and gunpowder where humanity sees itself trapped in a post-apocalypse wrought by two mighty armies as despicable as they areGrim Dawn is, appropriately enough, a dark fantasy action-RPG, a Diablo-like from the makers of Titan Quest and its expansion, Immortal Throne. It exchanges the sword-and-sandal world of Greek, Egyptian and Chinese myth of its predecessor for a world of iron, blood and gunpowder where humanity sees itself trapped in a post-apocalypse wrought by two mighty armies as despicable as they are really damn old: the body-snatching Aetherials and the blood-happy Cthonians.

    Grim Dawn plays much like Titan Quest, but with a wealth of quality-of-life improvements that make it a much more enjoyable experience overall. It notably features a reusable portal spell in the vein of Diablo 3 that allows you to access any unlocked Rift in the world, as well as none of that stupid item durability business, so you never need to repair your gear (read: suffer an arbitrary drain on your wallet). The most you lose on death is a small amount of experience, which can be retrieved from the headstone that marks where you last died. However, I have only played on normal mode so far and this may change later, I do know that you suffer a 25% penalty to your elemental resistances on elite, and a whopping 50% on ultimate. In addition, there is an NPC in the very first town that you can purchase skill point refunds from for a flat price that quickly becomes inconsequential, at least on normal. However, you cannot refund points spent on your mastery level itself (more on that in a moment), which increases your base stats and unlocks new skills at certain thresholds. Grim Dawn also generally feels friendlier to play then Titan Quest or Diablo 2, and at least on normal I felt like I was not punished for experimenting with new skills, and I was consistently dealing very high damage to all enemies as early as a third of the way into the game, to the point of one-shotting most enemies at the endgame. However, the same is also true of normal difficulty in Path of Exile, which quickly kicks you in the balls on higher difficulties if you do not have a "good" build- but I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

    Grim Dawn retains Titan Quest's unique class system. You begin the game with no class at all, but are quickly given a choice of skill trees the first time you level. You are then able to pick a second tree not long thereafter, combining any two skill trees to create the hybrid class you want. I went with Demolitionist first, a primarily ranged tree dealing with explosives, flames, “thorns”-style defenses that burn attackers, and a bit of lightning, with a few points in the Soldier tree for defense, creating what the game calls a Commando. My basic attack was quickly replaced by the ever-useful Flame Strike, which in addition to adding massive fire damage to my attacks, can also be augmented with splash damage, lightning damage and ultimately bursts of magma shards for even more fun. The tree also includes grenades, molotovs, cluster bombs, mortars and mines- a respectable arsenal. Other trees include the spell-blasting Arcanist, demon-summoning Occultist, poisonous, sneaky Nightblade, and lightning-hurling Shaman trees. There is also a special "Devotion" skill web represented by constellations, which you put points into earned from reactivating special shrines found throughout the world. These devotion points earn you minor stat buffs useful to most builds, as well as special skills that can be attached to your normal abilities to enhance their effects. I got a skill called Twin Fang that added a chance for a life-stealing attack to my basic attack, for example. However, I do not currently know a way to respec Devotion points, and you cannot switch your choice of basic skill tree.

    Grim Dawn is respectably long and content-dense, especially for the price. I clocked in over thirty hours, and like most Diablolikes, you spend most of that knee-deep in the bad guys, and it never really gets old- the hallmark of a good game in a genre known for its repetitiveness. Sure, it's a little rough around the edges- the graphics aren't anything special, the voice acting is iffy, and the music, though good, is largely atmospheric, but its mechanically very solid. Crate Entertainment has created an excellent ARPG with much potential replay value that is well worth your time. If you've played any other ARPG before, Grim Dawn will be right up your alley, and even if you haven't, it's a fine place to start.
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  73. May 25, 2016
    10
    After playing 300+ hours I finally feel ready to write short review. First, I think those who say that GD is just another Titan's Quest are totally wrong. Those people didn't play the game or played it not enough to see the difference. GD has much much more options to develop your character, you just don't see it at first glance. There are no OP skills, every skill is good when rightlyAfter playing 300+ hours I finally feel ready to write short review. First, I think those who say that GD is just another Titan's Quest are totally wrong. Those people didn't play the game or played it not enough to see the difference. GD has much much more options to develop your character, you just don't see it at first glance. There are no OP skills, every skill is good when rightly supported and implemented. Add in devotion tree and you have almost unlimited number of creativity choices. Along with huge variety of equipment/potions/relics improvements this what makes this game great. Expand
  74. ave
    May 16, 2016
    8
    One thing I really like in ARPGs is when you could play a "Pet Master" - simply summoning and directing your own wild bunch to take care of business while enjoying the scenery and hunting treasures. Grim Dawn is no stranger to that and it's a blast.

    I got the game in early access, so I had plenty of time to try out the classes, their flavor and several mix of them (a nice reminder of
    One thing I really like in ARPGs is when you could play a "Pet Master" - simply summoning and directing your own wild bunch to take care of business while enjoying the scenery and hunting treasures. Grim Dawn is no stranger to that and it's a blast.

    I got the game in early access, so I had plenty of time to try out the classes, their flavor and several mix of them (a nice reminder of Titan Quest, that is still one of my favorite game).

    And once the game was finally released, it came with a new class, the Shaman, that just perfectly complement the Occultist to suit my shameless laid-back * style of play.

    So, if you want to give it a try, here are the foundations : start with the Occultist and develop the Familiar and Hellhound branches ; when you reach level 10, jump to the Shaman and go for the Briarthorn branch. You can complement these three with one or two other skills you might find useful or enjoyable. For the devotions, start with Shepherd's Crook.

    The balance between "class" and "skill" levels is up to you. On my own, I usually spend 2 points in the Class (for character stats) and 1 point a Skill ; and sometimes saving points for later. But with the Spirit Guide that can help you re-spec your skills, you can do as you please.

    What you will do most of the time is send your creatures to scout places and eventually attract or attack foes. So bind a key with Pet Attack and be sure that at least Hellhound then Briarthorn are set to Aggressive. What you choose to do with you character (close combat, ranged combat...) is up to you since it matters only 5 to 10% of the time ; you really can experiment here with any combination of weapons, armors and components.

    Nevertheless, since no "build" is made perfect, you might encounter some resistance with "infuriated" enemies than can steal a percentage of your pets' health (thus creating a stasis in combat) ; and of course, champions and bosses - not mentioning, champions that can summon infuriated creatures.

    * Some might say that this style of play is not very ARPG-y since you don't have to frantically click your mouse to hit enemies like in the good old days, but merely give orders to your faithful minions to carry on the good word. Well, since I've been playing ARPGs since Diablo, I consider this style of play a well deserved treat.
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  75. May 15, 2016
    10
    Top game played so far in 2016 for me. Atmosphere and physics are addicting in this game, loved static world, plot is average but it's not really important in this game for me. Only wish that there was much more content than there is now, hope to see expansion soon and maybe new classes to try new builds.
  76. May 6, 2016
    10
    I don't usually write reviews but this game really is a worth it. Favorite ARPG ever, better than diablo 1 (my runner up), 2, torchlight, path of exile.
    I love the ability to customize your character ( but it doesn't go too far like POE).
    The graphics are great, better than any other ARPG imo. The world is exciting though perhaps a bit linear. I take the time to read every document I
    I don't usually write reviews but this game really is a worth it. Favorite ARPG ever, better than diablo 1 (my runner up), 2, torchlight, path of exile.
    I love the ability to customize your character ( but it doesn't go too far like POE).
    The graphics are great, better than any other ARPG imo. The world is exciting though perhaps a bit linear. I take the time to read every document I can find in this game. Some of them are written very well. Gameplay is great... everything is great... BUY THIS GAME. I feel guilty for only paying the $25.

    My biggest complaint: The ending... its a whole lotta nothing but hopefully an expansion will fix that in the future. Not enough to bring this masterpiece down. 10/10
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  77. May 4, 2016
    9
    Grim Dawn is a real alternative to D3, if you don´t like the latter, or didn´t cope with the skil system of PoE.
    Don´t expect Cinematics, for those go to Marvel Heroes :-)
    As a single player ARPG I would recommend it for peole,who liked "Diablo 2", "Sacred" and "Titan Quest". Multiplayer is a bit tricky, if you´re not playing via Steam, and even then you only see "Steamfriends" .
    Grim Dawn is a real alternative to D3, if you don´t like the latter, or didn´t cope with the skil system of PoE.
    Don´t expect Cinematics, for those go to Marvel Heroes :-)
    As a single player ARPG I would recommend it for peole,who liked "Diablo 2", "Sacred" and "Titan Quest".
    Multiplayer is a bit tricky, if you´re not playing via Steam, and even then you only see "Steamfriends" .

    Flaws and bugs are minimal.

    rate A from me

    A+ missed for missing easy Multiplayer player finding process

    WARNING: ADDICTIVE ;-)
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  78. May 3, 2016
    10
    This game is good, nice concept of post war apocalypse against another race, an okay combat system, great class system. But this game has flaws, stories are not engaging enough, the world seems small and thus needs to be greatly expanded, difficulty scaling needs consistency(the final boss spams doom bolt several times in ultimate difficulty), more character customization, etc. OverallThis game is good, nice concept of post war apocalypse against another race, an okay combat system, great class system. But this game has flaws, stories are not engaging enough, the world seems small and thus needs to be greatly expanded, difficulty scaling needs consistency(the final boss spams doom bolt several times in ultimate difficulty), more character customization, etc. Overall this is a good work on a game sized only 2.8 GB. Expand
  79. May 2, 2016
    8
    This game is pretty darn good. The only thing that really held it back from being a Diablo killer was not having procedural dungeons and creatures. Too bad, but maybe next time. Still, a great game though.
  80. Apr 27, 2016
    10
    One of the best if not the best RPG game since Diablo 2. I think many were waiting for game like this which brings back that feeling which real RPG games used to have.
  81. Apr 14, 2016
    9
    Advice: Don't be a druid the first time around. Some choices you make can be undone, but don't **** up your devotion tree. Don't make a build and then have to rely on pots because you over emphasized offensive powers. 35 hours in so far and my main is a dual-wielding master of the occult. So many choices. That alone is a reason to play this if you love ARPG games.
  82. Apr 3, 2016
    10
    Beautiful sceneries, atmospheric music, nice story, lots of loot, many character abilities from different trees, vast exploration areas, varying enemies and a haunted far-west world. Saying no more, I'm calling my crow and hellhound, getting my shotgun and playing my Sunday morning away..
  83. Mar 29, 2016
    10
    Best RPG hack and slash game since Diablo II in my opinion.....

    Grim Dawn is a great game that makes time fly by as you go from a quest to the next in a beautifully designed semi-Victorian environment. Everything about this game is well thought out and designed. Especially considering that it's the product of a small team of developers. I especially like the character builds and
    Best RPG hack and slash game since Diablo II in my opinion.....

    Grim Dawn is a great game that makes time fly by as you go from a quest to the next in a beautifully designed semi-Victorian environment. Everything about this game is well thought out and designed. Especially considering that it's the product of a small team of developers.

    I especially like the character builds and customization. Not too complicated like Path of Exile, so you don't have to spend hours planning your build in front of a huge skill tree, and not too simplified like Diablo 3.

    I haven't tried multi player yet, but I love everything about this game so far 10/10
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  84. Mar 27, 2016
    8
    I got the GOG version. I have always kinda enjoyed Diablo Clones. For whatever reason this one has just grabbed me. Really addictive and solid story/ game play. Easy enough to jump into and strategic enough to keep me engaged. I did not expect to like it this much.
  85. Mar 26, 2016
    10
    Если после выхода Титан Квеста трон, на котором восседал зверь, пошатнулся, то сейчас можно заявить без сомнений: прощай, Диабло.
  86. Mar 23, 2016
    10
    From Early Access right through release... always a pleasure to play. It fits somewhere in between Diablo and Path of Exile while finding its own space to exist in a remarkable fashion.

    Full of deep, complex skill trees and mountains of loot spread across a sprawling map with choices which actually impact the map, it has all the elements of a classic ARPG that keep you coming back.
    From Early Access right through release... always a pleasure to play. It fits somewhere in between Diablo and Path of Exile while finding its own space to exist in a remarkable fashion.

    Full of deep, complex skill trees and mountains of loot spread across a sprawling map with choices which actually impact the map, it has all the elements of a classic ARPG that keep you coming back.

    This one's for the ages.
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  87. Mar 14, 2016
    10
    Okay so here's my story.

    Bought the game, started playing.... many hours later.. euh wait? shouldn"t I go sleep? Work? Yeah man, this game is the ****

    Like aprg, no-brainer to buy. Even if you don't think you will like it, buy it .. you won't regret!
  88. Mar 13, 2016
    10
    We need more devs like you. Its just CD project and you Crate who is left for PC gaming.

    Gameplay to the max. It nukes Diablo3 i lots of aspects. I dare to say that you have risen above Torchlight 2
  89. Mar 13, 2016
    10
    I don't usually write reviews or give such high scores to any game. However, as an early adopter and supporter of this game, I felt compelled to share my opinion. This is by far one, if not, the current best arpg you will find. So much love has gone into creating this masterpiece.

    The crate team are the same folks who gave us Titans Quest. If you enjoy arpg's you cannot go wrong
    I don't usually write reviews or give such high scores to any game. However, as an early adopter and supporter of this game, I felt compelled to share my opinion. This is by far one, if not, the current best arpg you will find. So much love has gone into creating this masterpiece.

    The crate team are the same folks who gave us Titans Quest. If you enjoy arpg's you cannot go wrong purchasing this game. It is worth far more than Crate sells it as.
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  90. Mar 12, 2016
    10
    This is what Diablo 3 should have been. It does everything right. Way more depth than Diablo 3 but not quite as complicated as PoE. Perfect aRPG. 11/10
  91. Mar 11, 2016
    9
    Very addicting. Combat is rewarding and satisfying, items are very good and varied, and build are lots and mixed. Great value. Favorite action rpg since Diablo 2.
  92. Mar 7, 2016
    9
    This game is FANTASTIC-
    I havent had as much enjoyment in this genre since Path of Exile. (1000+hrs) One thing that I really appreciate is the feeling of weight to the characters attacks. Graphics are great sound is superb, music is eriely haunting...
    I think the dual class thing is a cool idea but I would have appreciated a little more info going in etc and I wound up a "trickster"
    This game is FANTASTIC-
    I havent had as much enjoyment in this genre since Path of Exile. (1000+hrs) One thing that I really appreciate is the feeling of weight to the characters attacks. Graphics are great sound is superb, music is eriely haunting...
    I think the dual class thing is a cool idea but I would have appreciated a little more info going in etc and I wound up a "trickster" however I find myself almost completelty spending points in shaman currently. If theres a way to change my second class that would be great- I do like that you buy back your skillpoints at least.
    I am current playing on a 4k DCI display and my only gripe there is that I wish I could scale the UI just about 50% more. Still kinda hard to see-

    I am really digging the moody grim look and the way you can reclaim your death for an exp refund... nice way to not feel as crummy when you die.
    I HIGHLY recommened playing on Veteran etc... on NOrm I was just way too overpowered and wasnt really feeling challenged, that being said I feel veteran is much more appropraite challenge wise.
    The Devs CLEARLY tried to make us an excellent game and the hard work in that regard is evident here.

    You cant go wrong with Grim Dawn, dont wait for a steam sale- buy it now if your looking for some satisfying Diablo-esque loot collecting fun.

    9/10 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    *I avoided playing this game til its offical release so my opinion is based solely on the available game. I had some issues installing and graphic glitches but I was helped very swiftly by the steam community and dev responses.
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  93. Mar 7, 2016
    10
    I have been playing Grim Dawn for quite a while now and even well before it was released it offered a smooth experience. I think the team took the best parts of Titan Quest and Diablo 2 and created a game Diablo 3 should have been. So if you were left somewhat disappointed by D3 and are yearning for a Diablo experience, look no further. Grim Dawn is the bee's knees. Immersive campaign,I have been playing Grim Dawn for quite a while now and even well before it was released it offered a smooth experience. I think the team took the best parts of Titan Quest and Diablo 2 and created a game Diablo 3 should have been. So if you were left somewhat disappointed by D3 and are yearning for a Diablo experience, look no further. Grim Dawn is the bee's knees. Immersive campaign, demonic atmosphere, great looking graphics and audio, a proper skill tree with two specializations provide a seemingly endless number of combinations, especially with the Devotion system and unique Legendary items. Expand
  94. Mar 7, 2016
    9
    I have 24 hours on record for this game.
    I was an early adopter when it was still an early access title (October 2015).
    ARPG are my bread and butter. I love them since the first Diablo. I have spent alot of time trying various other titles but they always end up falling short of what I held as the best ARPG to date, Diablo 2. Grim Dawn is changing my mind on that. The skill system
    I have 24 hours on record for this game.
    I was an early adopter when it was still an early access title (October 2015).

    ARPG are my bread and butter. I love them since the first Diablo. I have spent alot of time trying various other titles but they always end up falling short of what I held as the best ARPG to date, Diablo 2.

    Grim Dawn is changing my mind on that. The skill system is great. It reminds me of Titan Quest. The graphics are nice considering it is a top down game. Grass moves when you go through it is a nice touch. The effects of your spells and abilities are very unique. Gameplay hasn't been repetitive and I have found that this is a title I can pick up and put down very easily.

    I give it a 9, could easily be a 10 but I haven't gotten far enough to warrant that rating. Endgame could be very different.
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  95. Mar 6, 2016
    10
    I kickstarted Grim Dawn for 15$, and felt it was a great investment. I did not play much early access as I wanted to wait till full feature release, and began playing a few months before release. This game is honestly what Diablo 3 should have been, and I believe that D3 is a good game in it's own right, much more of an arcadey hack and slash with loot. It feels closer to Diablo 2 inI kickstarted Grim Dawn for 15$, and felt it was a great investment. I did not play much early access as I wanted to wait till full feature release, and began playing a few months before release. This game is honestly what Diablo 3 should have been, and I believe that D3 is a good game in it's own right, much more of an arcadey hack and slash with loot. It feels closer to Diablo 2 in atmosphere but since it is a unique IP, it has an interesting take on the genre. The story is just ok, bu the lore and characters really make the world immersive. Just clicking through dialog you can accidentally kill an NPC who could have helped you, or make a decision that effects the rest of the game, Grim Dawn delivers a true aRPG. The loot is great, and I really feel as though there are a large number of viable builds with the vast itemization. Dual classing at level 10 creates a new level of customization and it really fields like any two of the 8 classes can be combined to make an effective pairing. On release I ended up purchasing a few copies for my friends as I really felt it was worth supporting Crate for the product they have put out. There are some bugs, some potentially network issues in multiplayer, the graphics aren't the exactly the most up to date, but it is some seriously great entertainment and well worth it. I have already played over 100 hours and have just reach ultimate difficulty, I really can't wait for more! Expand
  96. Mar 5, 2016
    10
    Grim Dawn has joined my Trinity of favorite ARPG's alongside Diablo II and Path Of Exile. The game is fast paced and action packed. There is never a slow, dull, or boring moment with plenty of content from the the Main Quest Line to numerous side quests. The Main Story line will immediately immerse you into the Grim Dawn world, the quests are well developed and fun. In addition to theGrim Dawn has joined my Trinity of favorite ARPG's alongside Diablo II and Path Of Exile. The game is fast paced and action packed. There is never a slow, dull, or boring moment with plenty of content from the the Main Quest Line to numerous side quests. The Main Story line will immediately immerse you into the Grim Dawn world, the quests are well developed and fun. In addition to the main and side questing there is a wonderful faction system. There are several factions with their own interests in the Grim Dawn world as you develop reputation with them they will offer special faction related bounty quests. The character class customization is one of the best, the system allows for dual classing which creates a hybrid class, this allows for a multitude of build designs, and the recently introduced devotion system adds yet another level of customization by way of 82 constellations each with 3 to 8 stars (a total of 434) which you can devote and attune to. Each star has its own attributes, benefits and some have special skills that are granted. The game has a robust crafting system and it is always a rush when you discover a rare blueprint for an item. The lore in this game is deep and immersive, if you like discovering notes in remote places that explain the history of the world and the events that led up to the Grim Dawn you will love this game. Crate has already announced they will continue to support the game and are already working on a future expansion. It also appears there will be Mod'ing options available in the future. Overall great game designed by a great indie developer that listens and cares about their community. Oh, and there are a lot of intelligent human Mobs to kill in Grim Dawn (wink wink Crate). Expand
  97. Mar 5, 2016
    10
    The best ARPG I have ever played and I have played them all. Totally immersive great gameplay tons of loot many ways to build your character simply top notch.
  98. Mar 4, 2016
    9
    It's not that unreasonable to say it's a Titan Quest reskin, but if you take the time to acquaint yourself with the whole game you should see that there are plenty of improvements. Better loot tooltips, better loot filters, P2P servers instead of Gamespy (you aren't going to be MLGing this game anyway), more build options, less filler, everything is streamlined for player convenienceIt's not that unreasonable to say it's a Titan Quest reskin, but if you take the time to acquaint yourself with the whole game you should see that there are plenty of improvements. Better loot tooltips, better loot filters, P2P servers instead of Gamespy (you aren't going to be MLGing this game anyway), more build options, less filler, everything is streamlined for player convenience compared to TQ. There is absolutely no pay-to-win or paying for anything except the game for that matter, and there will be no "auction house" wherein people get twinked to oblivion with $10,000. The game was made by about 10-15 people and in my opinion it represents the terminal state of the path that Diablo 2 was on in terms of being a straightforward, mouse-based raiding, number-crunching character builder. I suspect this will be the end of this style of game with all future ARPGs taking the route of PoE/Diablo 3 (freemium or pay-to-win) or rollfests like Dark Souls and its clones. If Diablo 2 is one of your favorites, then it doesn't get much better than this except in production values.

    Some valid points of negative reviews I'll acknowledge:
    - Some animations are pretty naff, like the 2H attack animations, which look like you're swinging a cardboard tube
    - Much of this has been done before, but the point of the game is refinement of those mechanics
    - It will seem AWFULLY FAMILIAR if you have played Titan Quest before, but it is leagues ahead of Diablo 2
    - This is a mouse-heavy game, don't expect any fancy pants maneuvers, this is a real throwback to the clicky era

    The essence of Grim Dawn is basically perfecting the core gameplay of Diablo 2, as was attempted in TQ, and in my opinion it's made at least equivalent progress in that regard. I can't value the game for you (it's $25 presently) but I can recommend that you play it.
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  99. Mar 4, 2016
    10
    792 hours in with every intent to push that value over two thousand or more. With 201 Games on Steam, it is my most-played and easily my favorite. Oh, you want a review? OK then...

    Grim Dawn presents a nitty-gritty world ravaged both my man's mistakes as much as otherworldly invasion. The feel of this world is perpetuated in every facet of the design of the game. Skills and attacks -
    792 hours in with every intent to push that value over two thousand or more. With 201 Games on Steam, it is my most-played and easily my favorite. Oh, you want a review? OK then...

    Grim Dawn presents a nitty-gritty world ravaged both my man's mistakes as much as otherworldly invasion. The feel of this world is perpetuated in every facet of the design of the game. Skills and attacks - player and enemy alike - are brutal and satisfying. The UI is precisely what it needs to be to get the points of its contents across to the player; it is no fancier than that. The quests have a purpose to them - 'We feel threatened by X, fix that for us by slaying him/her/it' - but they do not go out of their way in their descriptions to make their completion any easier than a rough idea of where to go. This game is designed to be played solely by you, your inclinations, and you intuition, not to help you play it with omniscient developer input and assistance. But you get what you give, and then a little more. You'll hunt across beautiful hand-crafted landscapes for terrifyingly monstrous entities, read immersive and haunting texts scattered throughout the world, and develop a character of your own design, one of your own play-style and skill choices.

    OK, so that's all the RPG stuff out of the way. So how does Grim Dawn put the Action in Action-RPG? At the beginning of the game, it does not do so wildly. Nor should it; if you started a god then any godly things you did throughout the game would feel all the same. But eventually the combat of Grim Dawn becomes fast paced and as brutal as the world around you. Every enemy in Grim Dawn is designed to kill you with merciless potency, and you'll have in your arsenal an array of spells, skills, and items to decimate you foes with terrific effect. Rarely will you ever feel truly immortal; the world of Grim Dawn has foes tough enough to go toe-to-toe with the most dedicated players.

    Grim Dawn is a hack-and-slash ARPG that does everything it needs to and so much more. I've spent around $150 on the game between gifts and pre-purchasing for myself, and I've gotten more than five hours of enjoyment for every dollar spent. If you've read this far, do yourself the favor and pick it up for $25.
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  100. Mar 4, 2016
    10
    I normally dont write review for games because nowadays most of games dont even deserve the time expend writing one.

    But this game is different, its a true hardcore ARPG, has tons of features and complexity. So lets talk about the most important aspects of the game. Class System: Six classes in total and every character can pick two at the same time giving you a variety of gameplay,
    I normally dont write review for games because nowadays most of games dont even deserve the time expend writing one.

    But this game is different, its a true hardcore ARPG, has tons of features and complexity. So lets talk about the most important aspects of the game.

    Class System:
    Six classes in total and every character can pick two at the same time giving you a variety of gameplay, but it doesnt stop there, even though the game does not explain it to you every class can be sub-divided into specific roles.
    I consider every single one of the 6 total classes to have 3 sub-divisions, that gives us a total of 18 classes and an absurd number of possible combinations.
    Lets talk a bit about the Shaman class. Shaman, at its core, is a two-hand lightning damage melee character, calm down, it gets even more complex. The top of the Shaman skill tree is all about supporting his melee abilities, special moves while using two-hand weapons and a way to heal yourself in battle. The middle of the skill tree is where his mage-style abilities are, call for lightning strikes, a wind devil (hurricane), a totem that casts chain lightning, swarm of insects that eat your foes alive and vines to difficult their movement. The bottom of the tree are abilities that help you and your coops partners as well as a summon pet skill.
    You can clearly see the complexity of this system, and every class is like that, even the ones you could think are more straight foward, like the Soldier, with the Soldier class you also have the same type of: attacks, defenses, utility and magic. I cant even begin to describe the possible number of combinations. Even if 4 different people pick the same 2 classes they can end up being complete opposites not only on skills but also on play style.

    Devotions:
    If you thought the class system was complex enough you should think again. The Devotion system is a constellation/star maze attached to the skill system, every constellation has a set number of stars that gives you a variety of bonuses going from passive damage or defense to completely unique skills. You have a total of 50 points, thats no where near the total amount of places that you can invest in. Those devotions have a requirement and completion status that gives you points toward a certain affinity (Order, Chaos, etc) and more that you invest into a single affinity more powerful constellations you can unlock, but worry not, a well planned star path makes possible to pick a fair number of very interesting extras.
    The skills from this Devotions can be attached to any class skill, so imagine that you as a Shaman can call upon the lightning God and there is a chance that when the lightning hits the ground it will summon stone spikes imbue with poison. Yes, that is possible.
    The Devotions are a way to make you even more powerful and unique, covering the weaknesses of your character or enhancing your strong points even furthur, turning you into the ultimate tank or a true glass cannon.

    Factions:
    The game has 11 factions related to the lore of the world, 4 of those are enemies and 7 allies.
    As you kill monsters around the world your standing with enemy factions will become worst and worst, to the point they will start sending Nemesis to kill you. Nemesis are random bosses that can be encountered as you explore the world, they are very powerful but have a high Legendary or Epic loot drop chance. Also the enemy factions will increase the number of monster on the region, you will end up fighting armies of fiends.
    On the other hand the allied factions can be pleased by helping them dealing with situations, quest, doing bounty hunter and killing Hero enemies. As you favor with them increase you will gain access to exclusive loot, blueprints, and augments as well as discount on the shops of the place that the respective faction controls.

    Thats only a bit of what the game offers, I won't stretch myself too long talking about the multiplayer, blueprints, crafting, components, roguelike dungeons, world secrets, hidden locations and character attribute points. Everything that I tried to explain should give you a fairly good idea of what this game is about. Grim Dawn brings back the old ARPG style of gameplay where planning is necessary and the most powerful weapons are rare and exciting.

    I have absolute certainty that this game is worth the full price for bringing back the essence of a genre that was one day for the most strategic and smart players.
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Metascore
83

Generally favorable reviews - based on 29 Critic Reviews

Critic score distribution:
  1. Positive: 29 out of 29
  2. Mixed: 0 out of 29
  3. Negative: 0 out of 29
  1. CD-Action
    May 30, 2016
    85
    Dozens of hours of hacking and slashing done so well and so addictive that you could swear it’s Blizzard’s game. [05/2016, p.56]
  2. Pelit (Finland)
    May 9, 2016
    87
    Grim Dawn scratches the right action RPG itch with a plenty of loot to hoard and a decent skill system that offers plenty of options to build the perfect demon-blasting hero. The only problem is the lack of a proper endgame, as the non-randomized maps and locations becoming too familiar too fast. [May 2016]
  3. May 9, 2016
    79
    Truly, Grim Dawn represents the modern gamer's slot machine, where three cherries are a set item drop and three 7's are a jackpot of a story that never comes to fruition.